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with foam ♪ god bless air -- god bless america my home sweet home ♪ pete: god bless america. bret: i'm bret baier and for chris wallace. a unanimous jury leaves america divided over gun rights and social justice. ♪ b1 kyle rittenhouse acquitted in walking free after an intense trial surrounded the deadly unrest last summer in kenosha. >> will take a look at the reaction across the nation as a country awaits a verdict in another highly charged case. >> the bill back better bill is passed.
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>> house democrats cheer a win for the massive social program plan but the plan faces an uphill battle in the senate where it's expected to get. backed by moderates. will ask brian dietz the top economic advisor about the strategy and worries over inflation. a "fox news sunday" exclusive. then republican governors tout the big win in virginia as a roadmap for midterms. >> we shown we can win in any state in the country. >> will talk to chris christie about what he sees as a path forward for his party. plus federal health officials approve covid boosters for all adults. will oscar sunday panel whether a change to be fully vaccinated is coming next. all right now on "fox news sunday".
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♪. bret: hello again from "fox news sunday". americans from "coast to coast" are reacting to the acquittal of kyle rittenhouse in a case that is served as a political test for an already polarized nation. many on the right with the jury's not guilty verdict for citizen self-defense and second amendment rights, many on the left are saying illustrates a biased and racial discrimination in the justice system. we begin with fox team coverage david spunt traveling in wilmington, delaware but to alexis mcadams on kenosha, wisconsin. >> that's right more than two weeks in kenosha, wisconsin in the trial invited some of the people crossed america, kyle rittenhouse but not everybody thinks this was self-defense. >> we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. >> the verdict wendy rittenhouse
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had been waiting to hear for 15 months. >> my stomach is in knots and palms are sweaty and emotions running through me. >> her son kyle rittenhouse collapsed in the courtroom after finding out he is now free. he was on trial for shooting three white men killing two during the arrest in kenosha, wisconsin following the police shooting of jacob blake. outside of the courthouse there is an outpouring of emotion from both sides. >> you can go in the streets. >> i believe in self-defense. >> protesters across the country took to the streets calling for justice reform in portland, oregon police declaring a riot and hundreds of others marching in chicago and new york city where several were arrested. the justice reform new york's mayor elect eric adams calling
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for swift and righteous action to prevent more violence. >> jesse jackson the longtime civil rights leader says this verdict throws doubt into the safety of people in support of black americans and calling for a federal trial for rittenhouse. it's been very quiet following the verdict but there is a rally near the courthouse at 3:00 o'clock calling for true justice in this case. closing arguments in another emotionally charged justice system begin on monday in georgia for the closing case on a mod are pretrial. bret: alexis mcadams. let's turn to david spunt with the president in wilmington, delaware. >> the verdict in kenosha heard loudly throughout the corridors of washington prompting contrasting statements from the president and his vice
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president. >> i stand by what the jury has concluded. the jury system works and we have to abide by it. >> hours later a frustrated vice president. >> there is a lot more work to do. >> the rittenhouse verdict the spotlight from democrats big victory in washington. >> on this vote that yeas are 220 and the names are 213. the build back better bill is passed. >> cheers from democrats after president biden $2 trillion social spending bill passed by a thin margin the vote came hours after the republican leader kevin mccarthy spent eight hours in 32 minutes railing against the plan. the longest speech in house history. >> every page of the new washington spending shows how irresponsible and out of touch the democrats are.
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>> the build marks the seventh largest spending package since the beginning of the pandemic. now the focus turns to the senate where margins are thinner and all eyes on to moderate democrats, kyrsten sinema in west virginia joe manchin. >> it'll take a while to get to the senate. >> the president who celebrated the 79th birthday in wilmington, delaware will head to nantucket to celebrate with family and friends. he is an important decision to make whether or not to replace jerome powell at the reserve chair as inflation threatens his presidency. >> david spunt from wilmington, joining is now director of the national economic council. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thank you for having me. bret: inflation is at a 31 year high.
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how can you say the bill back better bill which is all past the house on friday is not going to hurt in that way. how can you say it'll lower inflation when you're pumping trillions of dollars into the economy in recent months. >> there's no question inflation is high it's affecting american consumers and their outlook. that is why we need to move on this bill back better bill right now. experts across the board have looked at it and concluded it will increase inflation because is paid for. when you pay for investments you don't add aggregate demand to the economy. we saw this week to large rating financial firms mitch fitch and moody's underscored this bill will increase inflation. what it will do is lower cost, this is going to be the biggest cost cutting bill for
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working-class and american families in decades in this country. it's gonna go at cost the persistent problems for the american people. it'll lower the cost of prescription drugs, put a cap on out-of-pocket cost for drugs for seniors and allow medicare to negotiate prices on behalf of american consumers. it'll lower the cost of healthcare and housing and get millions of americans to work by addressing the cost that keep them from going to the workplace. we have millions of parents, women in particular that cannot work because they cannot afford the cost of childcare or care for an elderly parent this will lower the cost, get people working in because it's paid for and will not increase the deficit. working to do that in a way that keeps a strong momentum in the economy going. bret: i know there's critics who have issue with the paid for part. we heard larry summers who also
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held the job that you now hold with obama administration that express real concerns about democrats not taking inflation seriously and only exacerbating the problem with these bills. now you have senior advisor in the obama administration writing this, build back better can be deemed paid for only if one embraces budget gimmicks assuming the most important initiatives will be allowed to expire in a few years, the result the frontload spending while tax revenues arrive only over a decade the responsible budget estimates the plan will add $800 billion or more to the deficit over the next five years. exacerbating stationary pressures. you are saying ratner in summers are both wrong? >> respectfully larry summers has been a critic of the policies of this administration nina said the bill back better bill will not increase inflation
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it makes much needed investments in the economy. it is been a while and washington since we've done the hard work of paying for it bill over ten years. that's what this bill does it has long-term investments like childcare, providing preschool across the country. but then it pays for those by doing long-term reforms to tax system. we would put a 15% of the largest corporations to avoid what happens today large profitable companies and the pain 0 and taxes. that's a permanent reform to the tax system that would generate more revenue for the long-term. when you look at the impact in the aggregate it would reduce the deficit by $112 billion this decade. actually over the long-term if you really care about the fiscal soundness of this country you should look at the long-term. in the second decade this would reduce by more than $2 trillion.
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this bill unlike what is happened in washington over the last several years is doing the hard work of paying for proposals over the long-term and it's fiscally responsible and cut costs for families almost immediately. >> sorry for the delay, the budget gimmicks of some of these policies make the paid for part work. >> these are gimmicks, this is a responsible long-term investment, 85% of the provisions are put in place for the long-term and where there are places where programs are not extended permanently a future congress will have the choice of whether to extend those or not. it's been very clear he believes anything that we do going forward in anything a future congress might do or not do should be fully paid for. it's a completely new standard in washington to say is this bill paid for based on what the
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future congress may or may not do. if you look at this bill long-term investments of our economy fully paid for and frankly more fully paid for. the same thing people are concerned about our fiscal future should be focused on the long-term. this will make a positive difference. >> republicans argued in 2017 their tax cut bill will be paid for thanks to economic growth. at the top they pointed to a fiscal analysis which said otherwise. i have republicans making the same argument democrats meeting 2017, why is your argument that the bill is paid for valid if it's the same argument that the gop made. >> were not relying on the prospect of future economic growth were relying on official estimates that have looked at the provisions of this bill. the provisions in this bill will generate tax revenue, reduce
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spending across time and that will be invested in lower cost for families like lower prescription drug costs and childcare. that's what were looking at and were relying on the experts that have studied the provision in this bill and the congressional budget office as was the treasury department in the elements at issue is tax enforcement making sure that the irs has the tools to have american americans pay the taxes that the early 0 and the estimates are validated by every former irs commissioner including those that served under republicans and democrats former treasury secretary including hank paulson who served under the administration, they've decades of experiences looking at the tax system at looked at the estimates and if anything they are too conservative and were likely to raise more revenue across time. >> you expect this bill to
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shrink as moderates in the senate get their hands on it and have concerns about it. >> this is a process we've been going through for months looking and working with houses of the senate. the milestone in the house was a big important step in getting this bill done and now we move to the senate, we will work with every member of the senate on this bill. i think because of the work over several months we do have a good understanding of where the consensus lies, and lies for working families and getting more people back to work by addressing the barriers that are keeping people from doing so like childcare it lies in making serious reforms that will restore fairness of tax code we have a broad agreement on those provisions. i expect as we move to the senate will have a lot of
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momentum as a congressional process does will get it to the senate we need 50 votes it'll go back to the house and the president's desk. bret: will see the timing on that the latest poll on the economy president biden has 36% approval when it comes to the economy and you can see that is a significant drop, why do you think that is? >> i think the american people understand that we've made progress but there's a lot of work to do and i think they understand the less interested in what were saying on this program or might happen in their more focused on concrete action and delivery in their lives. that is something that we are focused on with everything that we do. we just signed into law and infrastructure bill that will go directly at solving some of the problems that we face in this economy today like a
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supply-chain bottleneck through systems of commerce, that the bill that people see the impact of claim when they see as delivering and places that are directly more relevant to their lives, they will understand what they are doing. we understand it's on delivering and that's why were focused on getting the bills done in implementing them consistent with their focus. >> very quickly has the president made a decision on the nomination and for federal reserve chair? >> the president signaled he intends to make an announcement in the coming days. i will leave that one to him. >> it basically comes down to the current fed chair jerome powell work for governor lael brainard, some democratic senators have been pushing for brainard with concerns of climate change. a more assertive on climate change does the president share
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that view? >> the president has spent a lot of time on this issue is obviously important decision for the country. there are multiple positions open at the federal reserve with qualified candidates in looking all of those issues. i believe that final decision announcement to the president. bret: it could be tomorrow? >> i'm going to leave that to him. bret: gotcha, the president of the virtual summit when xi jinping a long talk with the chinese leader, the biden the administration of the going to keep the trump era china terrorists in place? there are fears from your critics that the biden administration will rollover with promises about climate change policy shifts by the
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chinese. will the tears stay in place. >> the president has been very clear that he will stand up for american interest. he has a very good relationship with president xi jinping on evidence and the significant conversation that they had that you just referenced and in respect to trade we are currently interacting with the chinese around the phase one trade agreement because of the way it was negotiated by the prior administration did not adequately protect interest in the chinese have not lived up to the promises in that agreement. we are engaging with their chinese counterparts with a clear understanding that were representing the american interest in working to take the actions that we need to protect is making interest but that cuts across only tariff policy but
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procurement that the chinese government has made in the broader challenges of the chinese face to our economy whether intellectual property theft were strategic investments in areas that could affect her national security. were taking a broad view of that and certainly with a clear focus that the american worker and economy in the president's priority that he will stand up for principles in our economy as well. bret: thank you for the time. period up next will bring in our sunday group to discuss what president biden small vaccine mandate could mean for business. i am totally blind.
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>> our message to businesses is to move forward with measures that would make the workplace safer and protect their workforce from covid-19. bret: white house press secretary jen psaki urging businesses to continue with plans to vaccinate or test workers even while osha has put the controversial rule on hold after an order of a federal appeals court. it is time for a sunday group jason riley of the wall street journal, susan page of usa today and former democratic congressman harold ford junior. welcome this osha pause, is a bit of a speed bump for the biden administration plans for the vaccinations. >> that's right the court said the osha overreached and osha will appeal but that will take some time. this is not only a legal problem for the administration's
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political. the failure to control the pandemic is one of a couple factors that is pulling on president biden's approval rating and that is a huge concern to democrats because we know a midterm election is one of the big metrics to determine what happens is the president approval for reading speed when speaking of polls we have a new fox pull, jason suggests require businesses with 100 employees to mandate the vaccine or testing is still favorable, 49%, over 47 oppose but it's dropping in our polls. if you look at the coronavirus which was president biden strings, he is underwater by a point and a big drop from the. >> it is falling among republicans and democrats. they're losing less confidence
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in the vaccines because of the breakthrough cases. i don't think these mandates are helping the president job approval numbers. it's hard to know what's on the approval rating whether it's inflation but you have to believe that these mandates are not helping matters, their polarizing and employers are worried we are to have a labor shortage, there are firmer jobs available then people looking for work. these mandates could result in people not joining the workforce or quitting the workforce or quitting a job at a big company going to a smaller company where they don't want to be vaccinated we have to weigh the benefits and i don't think the administration is doing a good job of that. >> to jason's point there is concerns with truck drivers in the supply chain issues that were already facing there is concern for security in the
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police in different authorities around the country dealing with the mandates. >> first off, happy sunday. i think jason has framed it right i have that little differently. when you take about covid in the flu shot and data showing the greatest predictor whether america's vaccinated against both it's his or her political party i would remind all of us that the flu is not a member of the political party or cultural organization is not black or white or religious group under group it does not discriminate. the administration to tackle this little differently, this in my mind, getting vaccinated is a national security issue. when you think about what we did we had to shut down the economy and schools. we stifled innovation, an important part of our economy with the exception of pharmaceutical which was an effort and thanks to president trump president biden on that. we have to define this
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differently. we don't want our schools to close again or for classes to be out which impairs her kids ability to be successful and for that matter in the workforce, being vaccinated is the best thing to do. furthermore no health outbreak from being vaccinated. if you are vaccinated and you get the virus it's likely you've been around some but he is unvaccinated. i understand if vaccinated was killing people or large numbers of people, that is not the case. i would tackle this is a national security issue to keep america strong and to keep her schools open in our economy vibrant. bret: the emergency authorization has been given from a moderna and pfizer booster shots for all adults. the question is will people get them and there's a real question what fully vaccinated will need whether the definition will change over time. >> we heard dr. fauci saying
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maybe we would have to look at three shots but the real challenge at the moment for the country is not getting people to get a third shot, for people to get a first shot of the americans who declined were refused to be vaccinated so far. that is the reason that kobe continues to be serious, if you look at the hospitalization rates people who are hospitalized getting very sick from covid are overwhelming from the people haven't gotten the first shot. that has been the focus of the administration's efforts but i think were moving toward the point where it'll be the standard not to. >> some people forget there is a testing option if your against the vaccines. you can go into testing regime, you'd have to get tested a lot but that's a possibility. >> it should be an option.
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a lot of us would like to see more americans getting vaccinated but how do you go about doing that matters. the heavy-handed approach is not helping the administration, it's not helping the country there are people that want to go the testing route and to hear old point. we know that getting covid is not a death sentence for most people. we should not pretend that it is. something like 80% of adults in this country have already had one shot. this is not an emergency situation that we are in. you called it a speed bump it's more of a roadblock as i see it, the court was thorough in shooting this down as the powers for individual behavior in the public health and safety are estate issue not a federal issue, legal and a political issue from this administration. bret: we have to take a break, we will see you in a bit up next
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bret: republicans say they feel momentum heading into the midterms pointing to glenn youngkin's victory as a model for how to win the base and independence. joining me too discuss former governor of new jersey chris christie author of the new book republican rescue saving the party from truth deniers, conspiracy theorist and the dangerous policies of joe biden. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thank you for having me. >> i been talking to a number of republicans as they watched your appearances talking about the book, they said one question kept coming up and they said what is his play, what is his
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political play. let me ask you how they asked it, what is your play? >> my play is to make sure we get back to winning again. between 2018 and 2020 we lost the house, the senate and the white house. the only other time with the republican party history that that happened was 1930 - 1932 with herbert hoover, we then had the democrats occupied the white house for 28 of the next 36 years it seems our country would not be able to survive this democratic party occupied the white house 28 of the next 36 years. i want us to stop looking backwards, start looking forward and laid out a contrast to joe biden kamala harris and laying out what is wrong and what's right with our prescription. we do that and then will win the house and set it back in 2022 and be in a great position for 2024. if we don't will be a grievance
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party. bret: are you considering running for president? >> i would consider it and will consider it but i won't make any decisions until 2022. this year i'm focusing on co-chair the victory fundraising for the republican governors in and cochairing the efforts republican redistricting with former state mike pompeo. we have to win in 2022 before we ever consider 2024, more importantly we have got to stop looking backwards, stop the grievance politics and all the rest and move forward of giving people positive outlook for what we want to do compared to disaster which is abiding administration. >> can you see a scenario where former president trump does not run again, what is that? >> i that's a personal decision but of course i see it. it depends on what happens in his life over the next couple of years and what he decides he
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wants to do but i could see him running but i don't think that should matter for anyone else who is considering running. in the end if you believe you're the best person to be president of the united states and have the best chance to be able to win in support of your family then that's all that matters in should matters. that's what should matter for donald trump as well. >> knowing the former president do you think you will ever can see the loss of 2020? >> i hope he will and he certainly has any year but i hope you will move on and stop talking about it even if he doesn't formally concede we need to stop talking about that the election was stolen when i lay out in the book there's no solid evidence that it was. in talking about this now is defeating for the republican party. voters want the next election to be about the future, not about the past and there's plenty to talk about right now with the
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awful things that joe biden in the education and taxes and spending, afghanistan and the foreign policy issues like china. we should be talking about those in laying out our prescription and that's what i do in the book and also talk about the conspiracy theories and why they're so destructive and historically destructive for party but we've been able to fight back like bill buckley and ronald reagan in the 60s, we can fight back again to make ourselves up positive for the party. bret: i hear all the time people say i love president trump's policies but i did not love his personality or the comments with the insults. can those things be separated? with him as a political figure? absolutely. >> the policies have been outstanding, cutting taxes, cutting regulation, conservative judges and justices.
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strength overseas. new trade policies. all of those things have added to american a very positive way. i think it's still a center-right country in a country that is lurching back against the crazy liberalism going on in this country right now by joe biden and kamala harris. it can be separated and it should be separated. it's made harder if we have this discussion about 2020 in stolen elections which make the american people feel like were living in the past and not worried about the future. i think if donald trump wants to be a part of that, that is fine and is his choice. but it's his choice if he wants to talk about the past or if we want to talk about the future. bret: according to the wall street journal president biden told his allies in the past few days that he is running for reelection in 2024 because there is a lot of fears that republicans gaining strength heading into the midterms.
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do you buy that? what do you think about. >> i don't buy it in the least. look at his performance, what everybody in america has seen over the last ten months, he is not up to the job and is a administration is not up to the job they ran based upon uniting the country, bringing greater confidence to the white house and they failed miserably on both. they have gone far left on all of their policies, this is likely elected bernie sanders or elizabeth warren with the policies of this a administration in the competency has been awful as we saw in afghanistan in inflation in the crime on the streets. i don't buy it i think he saying it because he knows the republicans are gathering momentum. what i don't know how joe biden would be the least bit intimidated republicans were reassuring to the american people. >> what your reaction to kyle rittenhouse verdict. >> justice was done in the jury
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system works. i was a prosecutor for seven years. those chargers should've never been brought. prosecutors are not supposed to given to the whims of the public. they're not supposed to given to public opinion you supposed to look at the facts and evidence and decide whether they support charges. from the beginning i did not think that these acts supported charges. i'm glad to see a jury sat there not affected by public pressure but listen to the evidence and made the decision that they did, he was not guilty and he should not of been indicted and we should move forward. my hope that everyone will leave this young man alone and let them go to living his life. he should not be a political symbol for anybody. he's 18 years old you should be allowed to go one and live his life after what is been an extraordinarily difficult time for kyle rittenhouse and his
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family. bret: are you surprised by the coverage of this throughout and the polarized nature of it? >> unfortunately i was not, i think those people on the left are attempting to continue to tear our country apart for political gain. anybody who looked at the videos of this could tell that this was an act of self-defense. anyone who knows the law would know that. yet you've had legal folks on the air and other networks and political commentators and quite frankly elected officials who spoke responsibly and horribly about this young man without a basis and fact, that's not what we should be doing. that's why i'm proud of our justice system. it is not perfect it's the best system anyone has ever come up with in terms of determining guilt or innocence in our society and that's why i'm so proud of the jury and the jury system because again kyle rittenhouse a chance on
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television that he would've been convicted along time ago. bret: here is the governor elect of virginia, glenn youngkin. >> the kitchen table issues matter. in fact the basic issue of lower taxes and safe communities and better schools where we get parents a real role in the children's education. in a growing job market that lifts up virginians that resonated with so many virginians. bret: what did you take from the election in virginia and the one that happened in your home state of new jersey? >> what it showed the public wants to hear about the future not the past, they want to hear about the things that they care about not about somebody's personal grievances or rights. what we saw in virginia was a direct contrast on that, glenn youngkin talk about the issues he laid on the video and terry mcauliffe running out after add about donald trump nobody wanted
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to hear that virginia what they wanted to hear what you going to do to help my family make my streets safer in my education better for my children, lower my cost-of-living and give me a better place to live in virginia. glenn spoke about that and one and terry mcauliffe spoke about the past and lost. i should be a lesson for all of us and quite frankly i had written this book before glenn youngkin race was depleted. exactly what i say in the book you should do as well. in new jersey even though we were just shorten the governor's race we had in the state senate, six states and the lower half and more as a recount. we gained in new jersey and if were winning a blue states like virginia new jersey, with that message it should tell everybody in our party stopped talking about yesterday, start talking about tomorrow because winning is all that matters. if we don't when the democrats continue to govern and they will continue to lurch our country
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left and give government giveaways that will probably never be able to take away in the future and what changes country forever, it's not what i want to see happen and it's not what most people in this country want to see happen. bret: governor christie, thank you for your time. always good to talk to you. >> great to talk to you, have a great sunday. bret: up next a divided america reacts to the kyle rittenhouse not guilty verdict breed will bring back her piano to discuss the fallout from the emotionally charged
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>> we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. >> i'm questions about the verdict and the verdict speaks for itself, as many of you know i spent the majority of my
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career working to make a middle justice system more equitable and clearly there is a lot of work to do. bret: vice president kamala harris on the kyle rittenhouse verdict and what she says implies about justice in america, were back with the panel. what are your thoughts on the verdict, the fallout and how the administration is talking about it. >> i except the verdict we are a nation of laws i watch the trial and i read a lot about it. i separate the issues around race if it so interested in a broader conversation, my reading of this and the watching of the trial suggested proactive or initiated self-defense is allowable. i can't imagine being in a shoe store restaurant and a clerk, manager or server has a grievance with some person comes in with a weapon and i try to defend my family and try to
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restrain him and he or she shoots me and we go to trial on the claimant was self-defense. i can imagine legislatures around the country contemplated the self-defense not to say that mr. rittenhouse would've been any different i respect the law and i would agree with governor christie that is seemed like the ball was in his favor, even his lawyer said the law was on his side and mr. rittenhouse wished he didn't have to do what he did. i hope as we get past the politics and the heated rhetoric that legislatures on law enforcement take a look at these laws and try to understand and examine is this what we mean when we say self-defense. bret: candidate joe biden referred to kyle rittenhouse as a white nationalist and there are several republicans who are pointing back to that and his reference to militia and white nationalism. tom cotton said if he, president
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biden had indecency he would apologize publicly and not attack the jury for following the law. thoughts on that. >> i was disappointed with the president and the vice president and reaction to the verdict. that is because like a lot of other people they decided for the case that rittenhouse was guilty. they have every right to speak out i just don't think it's helpful for them to do that. i think their job is to say were a nation of laws and the nations verdict needs to be respected. at the same time give the democratic party the place identity politics card. they racialized these things and that's what you saw the president and vice president do it i don't think we need more of that. bret: here's jen psaki answering the question about the previous comments from joe biden. >> the president's view that we should not have broadly speaking
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vigilantes patrolling our communities with assault weapons, we should not have opportunists correcting peaceful protests by burning down the communities they claim to represent anywhere in the country. bret: susan? >> you talk about the division over the kyle rittenhouse verdict. there is also legal scholars who said it was not a surprise. a bigger issue is the verdict awaiting soon in the ahmaud arbery trial in his death going to the closing arguments on monday tomorrow because that when involves a less robust case of self-defense. it has a clear linkage, the big issues in our country, race, guns, the limits of self-defense and that is the verdict we will be watching for and will get a much bigger reaction, then the rittenhouse predicted. bret: we have been covering that taking some of the but overall a
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cost the media landscape it is not received as much attention as a rittenhouse trial did. >> i would agree with susan i watched a little bit and it seems like the process toward real team has been making more progress with advancing their thesis in the theory of the case. we think about all of this, i don't racialized this, if you're killed you're killed, if covid kills anybody, where a bullet could kill anybody on this panel, the question becomes and i think reverend jackson raised away are we inviting people to show up and protest that they may have a disagreement to put aside your race or political party and if someone in the crowd protesting yells or advances toward you, are you allowed to shoot and kill them. i don't think so. but i think as a nation and perhaps legislatures need to
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more americans get vaccinated many of us heading back to favorite restaurants as we told you last spring, in d.c. that includes a local landmark that has played a big role in the capitol more than 60 years. >> power player of the week. >> many, many challenges the pandemic has been purely most challenging. >> welcome, how are you. >> virginia is the owner of
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the chili barb washington institution like so much was threatened by the pandemic. >> how hard did it hit your business? >> wow. we were open 7:00 in the morning to 2:00 a.m., 4 a.m. on weekends, somehow made it work doubling down even starring in the a google commercial. >> people come to see photos on the wall meet the family. >> to understand the fuss you need to know history, then in virginia, newlywed when they opened in 1958. folks came weapon a on top very special. >> trinidad. >> they were on the street known as black broadway.
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>> a all closed at 2:00 a.m. from 2:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. you would barrel get in on a friday and saturday night, duke ellington, bailey, nat "king" cole, of joy time music on jukebox, musicians coming in in 60s civil rights took over still a meeting place. >> in town, on occasion he would come back to the chili bar have a sandwich an opportunity to sit listen to him talk about his dream. >> in 1968 dining was assassinated much of the street burned down or boarded-up. >> -- that was allowed to remain open scary but -- >> in decades since then remains a landmark essentially
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>> the secret chili sauce. >> that is our special recipe. we have not given that out yet but you will be the first to get it. when we do, you will be the first to get the recipe. >> with the covid restrictions finally lifted, customers are coming back, they can still find virginia ali at the grill. >> i like to turn them what it is time. >> cooking up the smokes. >> why are you still working. >> i don't know that i call it work if you do something that you enjoy, it's not so hard. >> you have been coming for 25 years that is cool. >> meeting people from all walks of life just to have the chili. i have a good time every day. >> if you want to check out the secret chili sauce, virginia said there are plans to bottle
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it and put it on the shelf in your grocery store. that is it for today i will see you tomorrow for special reports, 6:00 p.m. eastern time on fox news channel. will keep an eye on the closing arguments in the ahmaud arbery trial and a possible venture announcement, you heard it here have a great think skipping in t past him. and everything written in there is written by him. steve: good evening. welcome to the next revolution. this is steve hilton.

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