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>> definitely sympathetic and i'm going to say something from jimmy fairley, he came on my podcast and we talked about comedy and cancel culture and what he told me is it is not necessarily what you say, it is the intent behind it and i don't think anyone had malicious intent in "santa claus" and "the holiday" and "it's a wonderful life." >> we can do that. here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello everybody, i am jesse watters along with kayleigh mcenany, harold ford jr., dagen mcdowell and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." democrats in the media looking like complete fools after falling for another massive hoax. smollett is now a proven liar after the con artist was convicted of 5 of 6 charges for staging his own hate crime and lying to police about it. it was clear to any sensible
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person from the start that the facts of this hate hoax didn't add up but that didn't matter to the needy head, trying to push a racial narrative to divide the nation. >> i don't like that it is putting out there in the media that this is a possible hate crime. >> a lot of factors but i know that jussie smollett is a really, really good guy. i just want justice to be served in this case. speak of the media has really cast so much doubt on his story which i find so personally offe. >> he's given a detailed account which chicago police say is consistent. he hasn't changed his story. they also state is credible, and also that he has been very cooperative. >> this is america in 2019. >> jesse: democrats were even worse. biden said "homophobia and racism have no place on our streets." kamala harris called it a modern-day lynching and the rest of the democrat minions were eager to fall in line. after pushing this fake news the white house now says it wasn't a
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big deal because everybody was doing it. watch. >> there are lessons learned perhaps for everybody who commented at the time. including former president trump. we respected the jury's decision, lying about something as heinous as a hate crime is shameful. if you look back at the time it is also true in important to note that accusations of hate crimes should be taken seriously and they need to be fully investigated, but that is where everybody was looking at it at the time. >> jesse: accusing president trump of falling for the hoax. >> in my office today which is between you, jesse and you, greg. >> jesse: first of all, we are sorry. >> kayleigh: thank you because i hear you guys a lot. you more than greg. >> jesse: you can hear me in my office? >> i can hear you, i snoop on your conversations. >> jesse: oh, boy. >> kayleigh: i hear what i think is the hardest take, shameful cells are, they say the right is going to use this as an example of why not to trust the media and then jen psaki says
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this is all trumps fault. her boss is the ultimate ray spader. any number of issues, mitt romney will put them back in chains, the shameful "you ain't black" comment in the shameful accusation of this jussie smollett crime, only to be surprised by kamala harris who said this is modern-day lynching along with cory booker. not to trump's fault, sorry. >> jesse: trying to spread the gullibility around like it was everyone who fell for the hoax. it was pretty much everyone around the left and left-wing media figures. >> harold: when the allegations came about they were explosive, divisive, anybody would be touched to their core if true. it turned out not to be true. no one should now defend this. i think there are actual attacks based on someone's sexual orientation come actual attacks, people being attacked based on race and even gender.
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this effort here by this young man who i don't know, i don't know why he did it, what would make him do it but if researchers and casts doubt even more so on some people who may not be inclined to believe that hate crimes actually take place. at some level i think at his core he probably wants to try to advance the quality and help the country move forward on race and gender issues and sexual orientation issues, but he shoved us back here. anyone who doesn't say this was wrong in the jury spoke in he will face the consequences is not doing right by those in this country who want to ensure that people of color, who have a different sexual orientation are protected. >> jesse: you heard race relations in the country into harold's point, any time another allegation of a hate crime you see on the tv, people are going to scratch their heads because this was so high-profile it raises doubt every time going forward.
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>> dagen: not if you send the message of sending jussie smollett to the -- for a little while. >> jesse: we might not seem any more hoaxes. >> dagen: jussie smollett learn to exploit racial tensions for his own benefit and gain from the very people you just saw on the tv. what he did was, he could get a year or two. first-time offender would get probation but he committed perjury according to andy mccarthy. he could go away for a couple of years. what he did was he pushed and pedaled a hoax designed to rip a country apart that was already tearing at the seams, he threw kerosene on already a burning fire, so i call him a civil unrest arsonist. he was perfectly happy to see chicago, the murder capital of the country and even the rest of the country besieged by violence, go up in flames, descendant of rights and for what? because he maybe wanted to play a superhero in a marble movie or
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get a deodorant commercial, because his talent as an actor wasn't enough to get him, well, anywhere, anymore. that is what we see. >> jesse: social media makes it so easy to fall for these hoaxes because he's thing and the politicians think they have to tweet about it right away. they have to get the message out there instead of just waiting a couple beats. >> greg: you know, i still believe jussie. i think they should get together find the real attackers. on a reality show. that would be perfect. jen psaki, she brought up trump as an example, there really wasn't what we were talking about. we are not talking about saying that if this is true, it's bad. it's that the pressure to silence any dissent or skepticism is the crime unfolds. so everybody is terrified, when you hear about this crime, it is so absurd, so on the nose, so
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comical that you burst out laughing about all the elements. it's like a perverse christmas tree of twisted ornaments. none of it makes any sense. but if you said that during that week you could be called a racist. and like dagen was saying. this was a volatile climate at the time of the hoax. so he was happy to cause injury, perhaps property damage, riots, whatever in order to do this story. he had to have known that this could have serious consequences for a lot of communities and you've got to remember, in the three weeks that this happened, the three weeks from the start which i think was january 29th to february 27th, 18 people were killed in chicago including a 1-year-old and you have to wonder how many cops could have been dealing with that in saving lives instead of devoting all this time chasing down the imaginary attackers because they were supposed to. i don't care about smollett. i care about the media. they are just as guilty because
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they primed their peers, their friends in the media and activists to believe this was actually possible. that yeah, there are these trump supporters yelling maga at 3:00 a.m. no one would believe that if we hadn't been primed, which we had been framed mainly by cnn letting us believe that we were anti-police, that this country is systemically racist. so primed them, which is what happened here, and one last point, it's only one way. the traffic towards these folks is only one way. there is no moderates, there's no conservatives, there is no libertarians that fell for this, right? it was only the left because the left has been indoctrinated into
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the idea that this is a hopelessly racist country full of evil, white trump supporters who just want to chase anonymous actors. they don't even know who the guy is. jesse's family doesn't even know who the guy is. >> jesse: like the maga supporters watch "empire." if they actually had captured it on the surveillance tape, we would have seen that it was fake. we would've seen two guys dressed like, pulling punches. >> greg: don't hire two black eyes to play two white guys. i learned that in acting school >> harold: that three week period, but after that. but i'm a democrat -- >> dagen: he almost didn't get prosecuted. kim foxx dropped the charges. a whole bunch of clips and tweets about justice has been done when kim foxx originally dropped the charges.
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>> harold: i'm only saying -- >> jesse: why did kim foxx dropped the charges? she got a phone call from michelle obama, remember that? all goes back to the obama does. everything. >> greg: way to blame obama! >> jesse: could be part of obamagate. >> harold: want me to write that down? >> jesse: write it down. coming up law enforcement says law enforcement is lying about trying to stop te wave. ♪ ♪
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sees a record number of homicides. the district attorney there is plane cleanup after making this outrageous claim. >> there is not a big spike in crime, that is not true. there is not a big spike in violent crime. neither one of these things is true. basically we don't have a crisis of lawlessness or a crisis of crime. we don't have a crisis of violence. >> dagen: larry krasner now says he is inarticulate and blasting the media for focusing too much on that comment. blame the media, we heard what you said, you jackass. >> greg: are you calling me a jackass? no, i don't know how he can say that with the philadelphia statistics are showing a record. he's a hard-core lefty and ends
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up hurting other people and also like a lot of people in the media he is walled off from crime. if we were in a relatively safe period and a relatively dangerous period you might never know the difference because it is not in your neighborhood. so that is what you are seeing, a lot of people disengage from real life, either behind the gated communities sucking on cnn believing that there is no crime or if there is crime it is done by white supremacists and then the media cannot acknowledge crime because they are about no cash bail, media can't cover it, the politicians can't admit to it because they are guilty and so all you have left is this new state of denial and it shows you how absurd it is when somebody can burn down a tree and he's out in front of the building because the city, again, $1 billion sent to bill de blasio's wife to deal with the mentally ill and he is
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back on the street, he is back there because our city won't do a gd thing for him. at least i abbreviated. >> dagen: i talked to someone and said, why wasn't he taking o bellevue? he said i don't know. he should have been taken to bellevue rather than sitting watching the tree. there is a fight brewing between alex villa in villa nueva and george gascon because gascon said, when you wrestle with a pay cut me both get muddy. then he said i don't mean law-enforcement. this is a fight between deeply evil and good. >> jesse: i think the phrase is don't wrestle with a pig, you get dirty and the pig likes it. but we all know what is going on there. we all know why the democrats don't want to get the feds
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involved in crime, they want to federalize elections, health care, guns, the border but for some reason they don't want federal involvement with the sheriff's, with the crime thing and i got to thinking because i think so much, i got to thinking, what crime do the democrats really care about? it seems they only care about the crimes that get big headlines they can exploit for headlines. they care about hate crimes, covid crimes, january 6th, those of the types of things they are focused on and then i went to the fbi website, what is the priority of the fbi? the joe biden administration question working and what is on the front page? encouraging the public to report hate crimes, seeking information about violence at the capitol. pay attention to holiday scams, pay attention to vaccine scams. then they have a podcast. the fbi has a podcast. on this episode of "inside the fbi" we uncover the truth about
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some other noteworthy cases involving ufos. why are you doing a podcast on ufos when there was a murder record right now? 30-year murder record smashed, 12 cities mention homicide records, smash and grab everywhere and their focus on january 6th. in holiday scams. it is because they don't care about things they can't take advantage of politically. they don't care about black on black crime, illegal aliens, that is not a priority to them. their priorities political political crimes, that's it. >> that is why the department of justice started going after parents at school board meetings in the department of justice took on the best of joe biden's daughter's diary because that was a crime potentially when she possibly left it in the hotel but that was important enough for the doj to take it on but not record murder rates. >> harold: there is a lot there but let me try to answer a
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little bit of it. the model for democrats and republicans, that is where the key concern is is what we have done any work, we elected a mayor who will take office in a little less than a month who is battling publicly with some forces that want to see him not re-empower the police to do things, not see them deploy street units to go out and help communities all across the city. i think one of our other shows earlier in the day there is some dispute between the mayor and the leader of the black lives matter movement here in new york city, i hope the mayor prevails because we need not only more police on the streets but mental health initiatives in new york. i can't answer for the doj and fbi had all those things but what i do know is the numbers are up. the things you don't want to crime are up at the things you want down are not down and let us what the focus should be. mental health and putting more people on the street, reforming and standing after those, whether they be democrat or republican that want to stand in your way. if we do those things every
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american city will be safer. speak of the danger of data mining and also to his point, the only line of defense that left is coming up with his, well, the murder rates are below where they were in the early '90s aunt '80s. new york city, we have fewer than 500 murders, it was over 261990. that is your goal? that is your talking points? >> kayleigh: right, and what is president biden doing, nothing but we action or inaction. the first thing they do, we are going to exonerate half of the portland rioters. then he says hey, you are solving crime, i'm going to call you anarchist and what does biden do, get rid of the memo. he aided and abetted the defend the police movement. you hear jen psaki tacitly, quietly say we are against defend the police but my guy on the campaign trail was asked if you want to take funding from the police and he said absolutely. he has aided and abetted everything we've seen.
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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: president biden desperately wants you to think the economy is excellent. but that it's getting demolished by the latest inflation reports. prices surging to the highest level in 40 years, just in time to ruin christmas for millions of americans. president biden trying to deflect. >> every other aspect of the economy is raising head, doing
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incredibly well. we've never had this kind of growth in 60 years but inflation is affecting people's lives. >> kayleigh: god forbid. they were pressing media for better coverage and it looks like they got the memo. >> to me and we have the strongest economy i have ever seen. the unemployment numbers of the best in years, the best since '69. speak of the national average falling to a dollar 35. the lowest since october. just look at that. >> kayleigh: now that was economist don lemon who went to the dnc school of economics. greg, you remember this chart, you saw it, the two sons, the y-axis was huge, don lemon celebrating five. >> greg: he literally sang
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joe biden's praises. i would feel a little bit more subtle about it, he has been wrong more times than anybody on the planet. he must have compromising pictures of the president of cnbc because i don't know how he can get away with saying a lot of the stuff. inflation is at nearly 7% and he is saying this is the strongest economy have ever seen. you've got lemon singing, you got "the view." nobody is bothering to hide the fact that they took the message and they ran with it. there was a clip yesterday, joe biden saying that people will end up paying their fair share for gas. i'm trying to figure out, what the hell does that mean? are we going to have different brackets for gasoline? you type up your income and honestly, he is very confused, but there are two options here. he actually meant it, which is scary, or he is confused, which
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is scarier? do i want a cognitively declined president or an evil one? >> kayleigh: how about neither. the liberal media lapdogs come apparently the white house is celebrating one piece in particular from "washington monthly." you can't make this up, the title reads this, my glasses. politico says it is a biden boom and no one has noticed yet they are celebrating this. >> jesse: you can tell who the hacks are because days after the meeting all these people raise their hand and start spinning for this guy. we are here because of a mad scientist and politicians. factory trained that lady to create the stupid pandemic and then fauci, declares war on fossil fuels, and we put all the factories ins really hard to come out of this thing and it really only affects the lower and middle class. the rich are fine with
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inflation, they don't care. the most powerful guy in the world calls up some rich pendants and says can you tell the peasants that they don't know how good they have it? first they ship the jobs to china and then they open up the portents of the cheap labor and then they shutdown their schools and jobs, then fire them for not getting vaccinated and then say we are going to raise the price of gasoline, food and shelter and you are going to have to appreciate that. i've never seen so much contempt for the working class in this country. there is going to be an earthquake of an election in a year, mark my words. speech is special because of stuff like this, the chief of staff, this literally happens, here he is just touting how great the economy is trying to brainwash us all and when you dig into the numbers, fewer jobs now than in february 2020. the jobs being added back are those that were canceled because of the lock down.
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>> dagen: what about the 11 million job openings that can be filled and wages in this country are falling, adjusting for inflation. wages have fallen since joe biden took office in january so that is a hardship, which these nuts expletive -- >> greg: don't say it! call them smolletts. >> dagen: this will not get solved because they are reversing all of her policies but what can happen as the federal reserve can start hiking interest rates, totally get rid of the bond buying in, reduce the balance sheet because of the economy is really so strong, it can take it, number one. number two, the governor of new york, the lunatic that replaced sandy cuomo, she's going to do the hole, let's not talk about inflation but let's go back to lock down worry about
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this new variant more than absolutely necessary. she executed a new mask mandate for all indoor places that don't look for vaccines. some of the outcome of both of these is going to be a nightmare for the democrats. >> kayleigh: and the solution we hear from the ceo, build back better, yeah right, it's going to add $3 trillion, but we've got to build back. >> harold: if gas prices are dropping maybe we shouldn't salute or praise president biden, probably deserving a little before break. 5 million jobs have not been created, whether they left her came back, by definition anytime you create jobs those jobs did leave and you're trying to create others on top, hopefully a new regime of innovation and growth. we have to get there. i think one of the things we should do and the president believes that the build back better plan is going to help cities build their infrastructure, build up their infrastructure, make them more attractive for investment and perhaps being innovation centers. i think the number one thing we
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should think about is what president trump did with operation warp speed, which you guys did. >> kayleigh: thank you for the credit. he accelerated the way we do vaccines beauties take 5 to 7 years and you did it with the help of our pharmaceutical industries in a year and a quarter. if you think about how to make memphis, atlanta, how to make them advance innovation and manufacturing center so we can ship some of what we have over in asia back here in the united states but we have to build the infrastructure and baltimore, all of these cities are capable of doing these things and creating jobs and making america more competitive in the 21st century. that is what i hope this white house focuses on even more. >> dagen: maybe they better pipe down about all the businesses that actually employ people in this country. >> kayleigh: i love that you give credit appearance before i think we should do it more. >> kayleigh: i love it.
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i guarantee you put a girl who is so far left, you give her a few cocktails, some stud walks through the bar, tall, humorous, makes eye contact, athletes, done. >> harold: dagen mcdowell, would you date a democrat if he were single and in the dating scene? >> dagen: i'm not picky which based on my history i think it's pretty clear. i think conservatives should be careful about really getting serious with a democrat because you are taking gender studies and you are paying $300,000 for that degree, never going to be able to support yourself, you're going to get hooked up with that wind up having to pay for her or his -- >> jesse: marrying debt. >> kayleigh: i dated a democrat earlier in life however i am married to a camo wearing conservative, mark levine, republican. that is where i was always meant to be. however more of the liberal
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democrats supplemented they would date a republican woman, so they may have a hard time. >> greg: won big findings it reverses the stereotype. republicans are actually open-minded and the left are intolerant. their version of tolerance is being tolerant was somebody you already agree with but the real lesson here, it is not actually about the political affiliations, it is about the severity of it. i dated mostly all liberals but i would never date a hard left activist protester because there is something wrong, there is a survivalist, something wrong going there too so when you go to the extreme edges they always tend to meet. there is crazy, they are just mirrors of a different kind of crazy. that is what you avoid.
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it cans of for christmas. >> greg: you have your wedding and a bomb shelter. >> harold: jessie, you're pretty stylish. >> jesse: yes. >> harold: male leggings or "meggings" are seeing a huge boost in popularity of men wearing them outside of the jimmy and how often do you -- >> jesse: i bought leggings or jeggings or meggings because they are called, but i wear shorts over the meggings because i don't want to just a -- >> harold: why is that? [laughter] >> jesse: so it's cool. >> greg: no, i have to say every decade we keep edging closer to walking around in long johns. i'm okay with this if we have a flap in the back. just go full lawn -- but we are going to hell in an emasculated handbasket. let's go back to hats and smoking cigarettes in the bar.
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>> jesse: i don't know, you wouldn't look good in meggings, that is why -- >> greg: you are trying to get me in a pair of meggings, that is what you are trying to do. >> jesse: you got me. >> kayleigh: i text my husband and asked and he sent me a picture exactly what you described, he was an athlete so he had on the leggings or meggings with the shorts over a period that is hostile. >> jesse: it is style. >> dagen: man or woman, i don't need to see all that. >> jesse: also at the airport she said i wasn't allowed to wear flip-flops as a man. >> dagen: unless you're going to the beach i don't want to see toes on men. >> jesse: i have very nice needs. >> dagen: i'm sure you don't. >> harold: "fan mail friday" is up next. ♪ ♪
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>> greg: let's get to it, this is a good question. other than going to the dentist, what is your least favorite
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thing to have to go through? >> at risk of sounding gross, i guess the ob-gyn, what you guys would know apsley nothing about. >> deeply offended, what about you? >> i've had two, colonoscopies. >> greg: i love going under, when you get knocked out you feel great but the night before, you've got to prepare for that. >> you don't know if you're fully there yet? >> it's disgusting and god forbid your bathroom is next to the bedroom, it's disgusting what happens. >> jesse: i've never been to the ob-gyn -- i've never gotten a colonoscopy. >> greg: it doesn't have to be a medical procedure, it could be something you just don't like to do. >> jesse: traffic, obviously.
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>> i would rather get a colonoscopy or go to the gynecologist before i go to whole foods on sunday afternoon. i was going to keep talking about -- the ob-gyn is better than the colonoscopy. >> greg: i haven't answered! the producers are going let's go on -- none of you guys mentioned the puff in the eye at the optometrist. >> jesse: you like the colonoscopy before that? >> greg: the pressure of having to decide which one is better, is this one better? is this one better? the producers aren't telling me to go on. what did you think was going to be amazing but turned out to the other way?
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don't say your first marriage. >> my 20s, i thought it was going to be action time. >> greg: what about you, jesse, what did you expect to be amazing? >> jesse: med school. just kidding, i've never done drugs. my friend told me about mescaline, it seems better than it was. >> greg: but that's not you! >> jesse: with the question again? >> greg: forget it, this is the worst friday ever. this is a game show from hell. they all want to go home.
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♪ ♪ >> jesse: that was the worst. i'll go. as everybody knows -- eating healthy. >> greg: now time for "one more thing." >> dagen: as everybody knows him into eating healthy and finding out what's good for you and i found out my latest inspiration, check out max stanford from london, he sat down with a goal of eating 400 brussels sprouts in one sitting. this is where you can pick it up. >> jesse: so he ate a bunch of sprouts. we got kayleigh mcenany, adam corolla, we have annexed jewelry thief. the guy stole about $50 million worth of diamonds and gold and he gives us the inside story of smash and grabs, it's
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fascinating. >> greg: this sunday i will be in new work, you can still get tickets come alive with me and tom shillue, go to the show, it's hilarious. i will be in phoenix in march in salt lake city. watch my show tonight, we have lots of people i can't remember right now. let's do this. greg's smash and grab news. we thought it had died down but apparently this dangerous crime trend is spreading to animals. check out this little guy, going back to the same place and taking anything he could find to. one's stopping him. he hasn't stolen $900 worth of stuff yet. it's going to take him approximately 3 to 4 days, the security guard is standing there, he doesn't care. this guy is like what the hell.
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america is going to hell in an emasculated handbasket. >> kayleigh: my new book is out, my journey through the white house and beyond and where jesse's book is competing with reese witherspoon, i'm competing with the 6019 project. we have to drive this to number 1, wherever books are sold and waters world is going to take it to number 1. >> jesse: i think you're going to get there. beat the 1619, whatever that is called the. >> dagen: i see your criminal puppy and i raise you a sad bear. i mean really fat bear. this is in minnesota, this was caught on a wolf project camera run by the university of minnesota. they said this is the fattest bear they've ever seen. had worked hard for that body.
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i am an honorary bear, may be i'm here, maybe i'm not. >> greg: shade me curious. >> harold: god rest of the soul of the great bob dole. here is a creative way to countdown to christmas. a printing company in the u.k. has created a giant 10-foot high advent calendar filled with bags of chips including doritos. it's so huge, to open the door you have to use the latter. it boasts a whopping 18,000 calories behind its doors. the creator andy phillips says he simply likes building big, festive treats and thinks this is the world's biggest chip advent calendar. >> greg: probably because there's only one. >> harold: that the competition you want.
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>> greg: you will be first in line if no one else is doing it. >> jesse: there's a lot of theories. >> dagen: i can't even look at you in the i am afraid i'm going to turn into a pillar of salt. >> jesse: i'm glad i'm sitting away from you right now, dirty, dirty person. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening, welcome to washington. breaking tonight, runaway inflation. consumer prices surged in november at the fastest pace in nearly four decades. you're paying more for everything from gasoline to groceries just in time for the holiday season. on the potential economic got punch this month, the crime crisis gripping the nation. all of this spells political trouble for president for president biden and congressional democrats have next year midterm elections. we begin tonight with white house correspondent jacqui heinric


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