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i am bill hemmer. the flurry in the drumbeat the u.s. and its allies holding 11th hour talks. will russia invade ukraine? ♪ >> as of this moment i'm convinced he's made the decision by. >> president because of vladimir putin over unkept promises of a troop drawdown. and continued military drills while vice president harris meets with heads of states in munich. >> our strength must not be underestimated. >> any secretary of defense meeting with u.s. troops in the region as a nation's top
diplomat rushes to the un to win the information war against moscow. >> i am here today not to start a war but to prevent one. bill: look at the state of play from pentagon press secretary john kirby just back from eastern europe with the defense secretary. then we will get reaction from senator ted cruz a member of the senate foreign relations committee. will ask our sunday panel where there is an offramp for pollutant. plus they. >> this is cut tula, texas south county many of the major political issues that are a huge part of what goes on in southwestern texas, run through this town. >> the road to the midterms first stop home of the first in the nation primary. all right now on fox news sunday. ♪. bill: and hello again on this fox news sunday. fear of the war intensifies a stand up into western allies
enters a pivotal phase. the ukrainian president has called for a meeting with the russian president putin. but this week president biden said he is convinced putin has decided to invade it. a move that would rattle world markets, disrupt global energy supplies, and challenge the international order. in a moment we discussed the new assessment with intercon press secretary john kirby. but we be with timo fox coverage, steve harrigan on the ground and kyiv potentials are still hyper it mike in southern poland were u.s. troops have been deployed by the thousands. but first let's begin with mark meredith at the white house to find out where we are today. mark hello. >> bill come hello to you. president biden said he believes war between russia and the ukraine is still preventable but he believes it's also likely still. all we can longish in the u.s. and its allies race to find a diplomatic solution. with the world on edge president
biden's pleading with the russian president vladimir putin not to invade ukraine but. >> russia can still choose diplomacy. that is not too late to de-escalate and return to the negotiating table progress and started vice president kamala harris delivered a similar message in germany so ukraine's president zelensky in a face-to-face meeting the u.s. is ready to respond to russian aggression. >> any threats to your country, we take seriously. and we have rallied our allies and our partners to speak with one voice but. >> but hours later a zelensky implored the u.s. and its allies and not to wait any longer to impose sanctions against russia given putin's behavior already. >> what you are telling me that one 100% the board will start in a couple of days it. what are you waiting for? >> whiteout official tells fox the u.s. is already responding by providing ukraine with a massive military aid. also by coordinating global efforts to potentially cripple russia's economy. as for the russians, so far no
signs of de-escalation broadsided putin himself oversaw military drills which included showcasing his country's nuclear abilities. >> later today president biden will convene a meeting of the national security team right here at the white house. then we are expecting a big meeting later this week when the secretary of state anthony blinken will meet with in europe. that's one of the last meetings they had to prevent war but. >> we are watching at thanks mark meredith at the white house today mark thank you. going just turn to steve harrigan for life under the threat of an invasion paid steve hello there. >> hello bill, for some people here at the war has already begun. shelling in the east were ukrainian soldiers opposed russian backed separatist has increase two ukrainian soldiers killed saturday. separatist leaders ordered an evacuation with a dubious warning ukraine, surrounded by 190,000 russian soldiers plan to
attack. we are taking enough food for one day she says a prayer we do when we will be back. the old and the young grab what they can carry an flea bite bus and train to russia or president putin promised evacuees $130 each. ukraine's president bristled at the repeated warnings from the u.s. of a russian invasion. >> it means crushing the national currency he says, money being taken out. can you live in that kind of country? can you have stability in that kind of country? no. even without an invasion ukraine's economy takes new hits each day. >> lift alva has canceled flights to ukraine and germany has told its citizens to leave, bill pay. >> steve harrigan in kyiv, steve thank you bro's turn to mike tobin in southeastern poland
where the u.s. military presence there is increasing, mike. >> and build the task of you a soldier in poland is described as a multi- mission capable. it could involve rescuing u.s. citizens in trouble but it could involve manpower at the border in the event of a crush of refugees. they are combat ready for it most of the soldiers are from the 82nd airborne fruit summer for the 101st. they fall under of the 18th airborne corps. given their history in europe the mere presence of these paratroopers is intended to send a message that the u.s. stands with its nato allies but here's defense secretary lloyd austin addressing the troops in poland. >> whenever we place an american soldier somewhere, and demonstrates our resolve it our commitment to our partners and so i would say you are our greatest ambassadors. >> of suspense sometime yesterday and border town the people there are scared read
they believe if russia takes ukraine that putin will keep coming for more. also in the event that millions of refugees materialized on the board if they do not believe they can accommodate them, bill pay. >> mike tobin thank you for it southern poland will be back throughout the week thank you for joining us out exclusively pentagon press secretary john kirby admiral welcome back here to fox news sunday. >> thank you very much bill good to be with you. >> you are just back from eastern europe late last night infected they believe in invasion is as likely as president biden does? >> the leaders that we met within brussels as well as with the 80 and certainly pull it all see the situation the same way we do. they believe that russia continues to make itself are ready for a another invasion of ukraine. they are equally alarmed by it as we have been. >> a few observations on this. on friday president biden said he was convinced it would happen. and then late on saturday the white house statement that was
put out that it could invade. now, that language might be slight but it also might be significant and softer too. is it? >> will look we have been saying for weeks now, bill, mr. putin continues to add to his capability is and give himself options we said it could happen any day now we've been about that. when you look at what we are seeing, bill, some of this is in plain sight you can sit there commercial satellite imagery he continues to as the secretary said yesterday, uncoil his forces and make them ready to strike at any moment. i don't think we are hammering over individual pieces of rhetoric here. what we are seeing actually happen is mr. putin act on certainly what looks to be very clear intentions to invade ukraine again. bill: only a different way zelensky left his country in munich and then he went home to his country last night without issue but they were fears of putin wanted to lock him out of his country he would've done that. it did not happen.
what does that tell you? >> it's hard to know what mr. putin is thinking on any given moment. he has a huge array of military forces around ukraine. he has a lot of options available to him. and i think we would not want to speculate that just because mr. zelensky's out of the country for a few hours that would be his moments but he has had many moments and he has many moments going forward, bill he has options available to him. had many moments and he has many one of the options of course and you mentioned this a little bit has options available to him. one of the options of course and you mentioned this a little bit earlier in the show, is diplomacy. we hope that is the option he chooses when his afford minister diplomacy. we hope that is the option he chooses when his afford minister get to sit down with secretary blinken later in the week. >> and he gets that a moment here. on that sanctions you heard zelensky a moment ago saying your tell me what had% is going to happen then what are you waiting for to the nato allies and united states so what are we waiting for? we have said all along these are going to be crippling sanctions print sanctions the likes of which we have not put in place before they're going to be unprecedented.
it's a very strong message to mr. putin and it as a deterrent if you pull the trigger on that deterrent and does not exist anymore as a deterrent to read is conducted another invasion in ukraine yet. we still think there is time to prevent that. it is supposed to be a deterrent if you punish somebody for something they haven't done yet they might as will go ahead and do it. severe holding that and hoping that can affect the calculus of mr. potent. bill: think you said something in the middle of that answer. can you characterize that how much activity there is behind-the-scenes to give up putin and offramp? >> there has been a lot. just the intro to this piece this morning, bill, show the full court press by this administration to try to find a diplomatic path forward. we have made a serious proposals. obviously to be met by the russians in a reciprocal way but we have made serious proposals about ways that we can change things we are doing in europe to try to address the situation there and try to address some of
mr. putin's concerns print obviously some things are clearly off the table. but we have made serious proposals of the what the russians to respond in kind to that. bill: what is off the table? >> we have said the issue of ukraine's membership in nato that is an issue for ukraine and for nato. that is not something mr. putin can simply institute a view to a chime veto over or decide for himself that kind of thing is again between the alliance and ukraine. bill: what is on the table then? what are we willing to give him? >> we made serious proposals and talked about changing your instance the scope and scale of some of our exercises in europe being owing to talk about offense of missile capabilities in europe. we have certainly put forward other proposals to try to convince mr. putin that we are serious. >> okay. what has the administration learn from the chaos out of
kabul last august? >> we are still digesting what happened in august, bill and expect questions trying to get at sort of anything we learn from august that we are trying to apply now. they are two very different circumstances, bill. there's not a lot of parallel between what we are seeing now in ukraine at what we saw in afghanistan but we are ending a 20 year war there. and we were dealing with a massive evacuation of a lot of people 124,000 in a course of two weeks. this is not the same situation. this is extra trying to prevent a war from happening braid that is why, back to your earlier question, all of our administration officials have been out and about trying to find a diplomatic path forward. and at the same time with the department of defense shoring up our nato allies. making sure they know we are with them and our committed to article five collective self-defense is when we take very seriously. bill: make it back to the secretary about secretary blinken em mention a few moments ago he scheduled his counterpart in the coming days.
what would secretary blinken say then that he has not already? >> mark i sorely will not be for the secretary of state part i work at the pentagon. i will say i suspect mr. blinken will again make clear that we are serious about trying to find a diplomatic path forward we are serious about wanting to avert a war. i think he will also make it clear that if russia does this, they do it with diplomatic options left on the table for they will not have an excuse that merits in the sort of credibility about why they went forward when there was a diplomatic path forward for they will choose this war. mr. putin will be responsible for the casualties, the suffering and the sacrifice, the destruction that will result as a result of any military action. bill: putin said they talk to it genocide at the when they talked about masquerades is there proof of that? or can you outright deny that? >> you've seen over the course of just last week, bill, these outrageous claims i'm not going to get into each and every one
of them. it is absolutely right of the russian playbook he beat moving exes or owes around the field right now militarily but it seems like he is using the same old playbook. i do not want to make light of this analogy it is not a football game this is potentially war and lives are at stake here. tens of thousands of lives are at stake here. if you look at some of the things we have seen you go right back to 2014 as i hear he is he's claiming he is the victim he's claiming that ukraine incredibly ukraine surrounded by more than one or 50000 russian troops is somehow going to attack russia. these are just not credible. bill: one last question here today, insiders say and they believe that putin thanks he can buy anyone. that would include the company of germany in the pipeline for national gas that is been installed. it must make many americans wonder, do we care more about this than some europeans do? books i would tell you again not
speaking for other european countries, when we were in brussels a secretary a chance to meet with the defense ministers brussels a secretary a chance to of all our nato allies. as a parent to him coming out of there and he said this publicly neighed it was more united, more resolve more resolute than he has ever seen it in his entire military career. and i believe that is the case. we are all alarmed by what we are seeing. bill: would you concede it took a while for germany to come around too that? >> every country has to look at this their own way to their own prison for it when i can tell you, bill, were sharing information as we get in near real time we did get in brussels this week. they are seeing the situation the same way we are seeing it put every country has to decide for themselves how they're going to respond or react. but outside of not just the secretary as a naval officer for a long time and did a lot of nato exercises in nato things in my career. i too have never seen the alliance really more unified in resolving the one thing putin said he does not want is exactly what he is getting a very strong unified data on his western flank. bill: admiral kirby thank you for your time on this sunday for a thank you sir for being with
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good to have you here. >> bill good morning good to be with you. quick to want to get to a number of topics will start however on ukraine you just heard my conversation there admiral kirby. have we done all we can? >> not remotely. and tragically europe is on the verge of war because of the weakness, the fecklessness of joe biden. you know i heard a minute ago admiral kirby make reference to the biden administration i think he said quote we are still digesting what happened back in august. joe biden's surrender and disastrous retreat from afghanistan is the worst
military catastrophe for the united states in decades. and the consequences at the time i said as a result of this incredible weakness, all of our enemies across the globe are looking to washington. they are taking the measure of the man in the oval office for it as a result i said back in august the chances of a russia invading ukraine have just risen tenfold the chances of china invading taiwan have just risen tenfold producing the first of those two shoes dropping today because of biden's weakness. the bill it is even worse than that. we had in place of bipartisan policies to prevent what is happening right now specifically in 2019 i introduce legislation targeted sanctions directed at the pipeline. it's the pipeline that putin is building from a russia to germany for the reason he is building the pipeline is that it skips ukraine it goes right around ukraine, why? he is the real insurance they had against invasion is putin has to take his natural gas and pipelines the go through ukraine. once he builds nordstream2 he no longer has her about those pipelines print 2018 i authored sanctions in congress they passed with overwhelming
bipartisan majorities. president trump signed at my sanctions legislation into law. putin stopped building the pipeline the date president trump signed those sanctions for that pipeline was dead for over a year until joe biden became president putin began building that pipeline again on january 24, 2021 for days after biden was sworn into office. why? because he knew what was going to happen. which was that joe biden formally waved his sanctions on a russia, on putin and gave the green light to build jet eight spray that's what we have troops and tanks on the border of ukraine preparing to invade. that's why we are on the brink of war in europe. >> mount 2022 this congress cannot even agree on sanctions through the present could go ahead with some sanctions as well as a zone but that is beside read the white house has been very aggressive in calling out russia tactics.
they have data very publicly by the day i would argue. would you concede that has worked so far? >> know it has not worked at all. if you look at what the ukrainians want, they've been very explicit for there's had two things number one, if you want to stop a russian invasion they have asked the united states explicitly, put sanctions on nordstream2 right now today per joe biden could do that this morning he refuses to do it. number two, provide lethal military aid. give us the weapons to defend ourselves. i finally, last month i forced a vote is nice states and on sanctions on nordstream2. every single democrat in the senate had voted for my sanctions legislation twice previously. but the difference wasn't last time you had a president within our behind his name now you have a president with a d behind his name purdue we voted i wanted bipartisan majority a big bipartisan majority 55 -- 44. but the democrats filibustered the bill paid they demanded 60 votes but ironically what the
same time they were calling the filibuster a jim crow racist relic from the past. that same date they were filibustering to protect russia and putin and 44 democrats gave into political pressure from the biden white house they voted in favor of russia, against a sanctions. and explicitly the president of poland, the prime minister poland, the president of ukraine the prime minister of ukraine all explicitly said if you want to stop this invasion, sanction nordstream2. joe biden came to capitol hill and personally lobbied democratic senators to vote against russian sanctions. that is why we are facing this invasion. i got to say, bill, joe biden becoming president is the best thing that ever happen, tragically, for vladimir putin and requested there is an invasion may be the top comes back to cog so to talk with some
other topics lifetime here. on the durum probe this last week the findings suggest some sort of internet traffic was exploit for this narrative that tied donald trump to russia. either as candidate or president, andy mccarthy a prominent conservative legal mind writes this, quote, did derm find something worse than watergate? not so far. is this like the mueller probe all over again? all smoke and no fire. what see what the facts are of the allegation what durham alleged the lawyer for the hillary clinton campaign conspired with a big tech executive to monitor and spy on donald trump. to spy on him at his home. to spy on him at his office and indeed they were spying on the white house itself. they were spying on a sitting
president. you and i both remember when president trump said the democrats are spying on me. the corporate media collectively laughed at him for they mocked at him. they said what a ridiculous claim for him to make. wells, special counsel durham is alleging is true, what donald trump said was absolutely right on to the extent hillary clinton is complicit with this her campaign is complicit with her lawyers are complicit with a big tech is complicit with that, this is true it's a lot bigger than watergate people went to jail for watergate. people need to go to jail for this of the allegations are correct regrets to more topics to more minutes the white house said on friday it plans to make an announcement by the end of this month which means based on the counter that could be in a matter of days. the president is on record saying he's committed to putting for an african-american woman.
you have firmly disagreed with this idea but one point you call it offensive. another point call insulting. does that make you an automatic no on the nominee? >> will listen, democrats today believe in racial discrimination they are committed it as a political proposition. i think it is wrong to stand up and say we are going to discriminate. this administration is going to discriminate here with the president said only african-american women are eligible for this lot. only 4% of americans are ineligible. merrick garland who barack obama nominated and the supreme court, mayor garlin was told sorry you are the wrong skin color, wrong gender you are not eligible to be considered. i think our country is such a troubled history on race we ought to move discriminate based on race three biden ought to do it is to say i'm going to look for the best of justice
justice was an african-american woman, great. but if fox news put a post think we are looking for a new host for fox news sunday we will only hire an african-american woman or hispanic man or a native american woman, that would be illegal. nobody else can do it joe biden did. there is a reason for that, racial discrimination is wrong. now, that being said when we have a nominee i will consider that nominee on the record. i'm call for the senate judiciary committee, will have a vigorous process examining that nominees record. what i can tell you right now as we are not going to do with the democrats did with a brick have it up or we're not going to go into the gutter prude were not going to engage in personal slime and attacks. we're going to focus on the nominees record on substance of what kind of justice she would make. that is a cots addition responsibility of the senate. >> i hear a window of consideration in there. we'll see where that goes. tell your dog we're almost done here, okay.
[laughter] you are in texas. the texas primary hits in ten days. it's the first major vote ahead of the midterms were do you have many candidates in other states. you have not endorsed a candidate for attorney general in texas one of those candidates a republican is under investigation. will you wait and before that vote on the first of march? >> listen i think there a lot of good candidates running for attorney general and friends of the number of candidates they've been strong supporters of mine. and said that is a race as you know i am staying out i'm going to trust the voters of texas to make a determination per think there are good people running for that race who are strong conservatives who are people of a principal in whom i respect. bill: okay so no endorsement today. >> that is right i'm staying out of that race. six art center thank you for your time today. texas, ted cruz back to your dog precooked thank you sir for coming on. >> in a moment will bring or send a grip on it last minute talks to stop a potential war. an invasion of ukraine.
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when a bomb crater appears in school your children have a question for the girls forgot its mistake to the 20th century? what attends does it lead to? for success the president on munich but the risk of not pressing back against russian aggression return of our center republican strategist karl rove appeared fox news national correspondent jennifer griffin, congressman harold ford junior. welcome to all three of you on the sunday very good start on ukraine. jen i'm to start with the onset of zelensky we just offloaded munich and back he emphasizes they are not in a state of panic that is clear from his trip. where are we as of this moment today? >> based on the reporting i've been doing over the last few days, what we are seeing and we heard this from the defense
secretary of the russian military on the border with ukraine is basically uncoiling pride what is that mean? more than half at this point of those forces are now moving into attack positions. that is a significant term in terms of military doctrine. that means there gassing up those tanks. they have it left the barracks they're living in the fields and are just a few miles from the ukraine border. they have not been given the order to cross the line of departure at this point. but what we are seeing the "washington post" is reporting this morning the intelligence that led to biden saying he believes putin has taken the decision for an invasion that came from intercepted conversations and orders given down to those lower level troops from mid-level commanders. so what we are seeing is the battle space being prepared right now wrote i am being told to be a significant invasion. he has the architecture in place
for a massive invasion that would include taking kyiv. it's very notable there is a national security council meeting this afternoon. but from what i am hearing there is a great deal of fear in the coming days this will move forward. bill: will see what comes of that meeting the white house on sunday. carl which are listen to president biden quick clip hear from friday. >> as of this moment i'm convinced he's made the decision. we have reason to believe that. bill: had a good biden administration is playing this hand? wife as of recently they've been playing pretty well i think of. in part because the threat of putin taking ukraine unifies our allies in europe. but let's be honest, putin is not just looking what this administration is done recently he's looking at the whole frame, still biden was part of it administration that was seized by russia as weak.
particular the crane, they saw him for president biden one of his first action was to kill the keystone pipeline process not an accident that in may, after biden had waived the sanctions on nordstream2 for reasons that are still inexplicable, that putin had a page on the historically of russia and the ukrainians are not only laying claim to ukraine has been an integral of russia but also suggested the baltics and parts of poland and slovakia were also historically russian should be reunited. then of course we had defense budget where it was 2% increase but a 60% increase in nondefense spending in the defense budget being heralded as a new weapon against climate. and then finally we had the afghanistan debacle in august they have and bolden putin. in so doing well recently but
the run up to this has been very dangerous. >> he saw kirby answer that question. we saw the markets died this past week. what are the wider implications of an invasion? >> first off happy sunday. i think military implications are all on the table. i think we have to put a little in perspective. i've heard some this morning trying to sort out old political grievances. a member being in congress when we are facing these kind of challenges at a national security stage the united at home first off, putin has never accepted the fact the old ussr lost the cold war. he continues to try to revive the outcome per mia, georgia and now. we can quarrel about things in the past but we have to look forward. you rightly noted with mr. kirby on this morning our nato partners, the purpose of resolving unity is greater than it has been 20 years. the president and this team have advanced should they ordered the
advancement of weapons to ukraine to ensure or help them protect themselves. diplomacy remains on the table. we have all the punishing sanctions in place if indeed he does invade. now, hasn't been perfect? note no lead up towards perfect but it is important as we look at where we are today. jennifer's reporting is so critical because if indeed we have intercepted this kind of communiqué against the mid-level and upper level commanders and it seems some sort of invasion is imminent i think the president's words the day before the security council will be heard and resonated around the globe. it is clear putin's real concern here is he is losing ground. his irrelevancy tries to act to assert himself and what better way than to do this? i think the real audience i agree with carl wholeheartedly is that china is the audience our national security is probably looking at even more so than their looking at putin right now for. >> but may get back to admiral
kirby. john listen to this soundbite from our interview a few moments ago. >> the leaders that we met with in brussels as well as lithuania and certainly poland all see the situation the same way we do. >> might've taken a while to get there i think we can all probably admit that. behind the scenes he also talked about off ramps for putin and the talks that continue. what you hearing about the possibility of that that would give an offramp? >> first of all i would say i don't think it did take a long time to get those nato allies united. i think what is different from last august is the nato allies and i've been speaking to many of the top leaders of our strongest allies and they say with the biden administration did this time that they did not do last august as they built a very strong alliance and they have been informing those nato leaders including germany. germany i would take issue with has actually been on board in terms of offramp the offramp's a
very limited at this time. there will be a debate on whether the secretary of state should actually go ahead with a meeting with the foreign minister of russia slated for next thursday if in fact putin invades in the coming days which is expected. so, that is going to be a key point. what officials have told us russia always loves to talk while they are invading. i don't think i could take one point of issue it karl said the appeasement of vladimir putin goes back far before the biden ministration. if you go back to 2007, putin in munich at the munich security conference stated when he planned to do in terms of rebuilding the soviet union, robert gates was the defense secretary at the time. president bush schuchardt worked for was the president. shortly thereafter putin invaded georgia at the u.s. and nato did not do anything, did not do anything significant. that began putin has been doing this and then under president trump i remember traveling to
nato headquarters was secretary and that is when there was a feeling president trump was going to pull out of nato during those four years that did incredible damage to nato unity. right now we are sitting as a how very dangerous vladimir putin is free. >> we are out of time karl your name was invoke their progress with all due respect the u.s. sent naval assets to the black sea they return the iraq he come back brigades from iraq to bolster the defenses of georgia and sent whatever was requested to support the georgian forces so with all due respect yes he did go into georgia at the united states stood strongly behind georgia and as a result the russians stopped. there was aid and assistance. bill: panel timeout i have to take a break. we come back we'll take a look at texas with the issue shaping the nation's first primary of
bill: where the rows of the midterm of the coming weeks fox news sunday it will bring you on the ground reporting on the nation's biggest races. early voting is already underway in the state of texas the nation's first primary goes down in ten days. senior national correspondent rich looks out the shifting political dominance along the southern texas border. ask ralph gonzalez has ridden horses since before he can remember. >> i was six months old and my dad's arms. i have been on a horse ever since for. >> he inherited his love of horses from his father and passed it on. >> thomas is your son love the
rodeo? >> is not even a sport is part of life for. >> he bounces raising a scenic teenage son with demanding days work in the oil fields of south texas records being a single dad is for hard being a single father and the oil fields is harder for. >> change over the decades and gonzales says so have politics. >> everybody is in a democratic conversation. it's not like that anymore. >> for generations south texas been the larger blue patch on it mostly read electoral map. but within it president trump ticket in 2020,. >> the great state of texas progress republicans gained ground across the region evidence they say they can flip to house seats here. the region typically elects more moderate democrats one time who publicly challenges his leaders especially on border security and energy per. and energy per. >> this right here is a battleground for. >> democrats seen opening two.
>> congresswoman aoc and other national progressives are backing a more liberal democrat here. player campaign officials say progressives coming from out of state to campaign against a fellow democrat is ridiculous. >> the incumbent was voted with trump 70% of the time. >> came within four points of unseating in 2020. this year she is back at it. challenging him from the left. from the rights, several republicans have jumped into primaries and longtime democratic districts including. across south texas president biden perform significantly worse than his democratic predecessors. some counties even voted republican for the first time in a century. >> this is the park my kids play baseball and progress republican say border security motivated her to run for office for. >> i watch cartel renter my kids games and practices producing more republicans and democrats
switch over to the republican party because we are the party of faith, family, friends want a secure board its pro- law enforcement we are pro-life pre- >> cassie is another republican running in the primary for a chance to challenge in november played the national border patrol council just endorsed her after years of a backing. >> the last primary we did not support there's a variety of topics that we can stand behind with the congressman will not progress fbi recently raided his home his campaign insists investigators will find no wrongdoing. john is running in the democratic primary for a rio grande valley district that nearly went republican in 2020 break works and that the old blue dog democrats are still going to be in control of this area. we're going to honor the traditions and the values of this area. >> to think there are among some democrats here, there is a desire to nominate more liberal candidates question are quick to raise in the catholic church are raising the traditional hispanic
values. i think that tradition and those values continue to show themselves apart it's going to values continue to show themselves apart it's going to continue to bring out the voters but we are going to stay a conservative democratic district regrets combined the house seats have dozens of candidates competing to be on the november ticket. voters say they are listening. >> is not about democrat or republican it's about who speaks to you about solving problems are dealing with. >> this is cut to look, texas in lasalle county about 90 miles southwest of san antonio. many of the major political issues that are a huge part of what goes on in southwestern texas run through this town. a lot of it is economy that has to do with oil and gas. that is an industry that has grown significantly over the past several years. but it is also ranching. for that ranchers say border issues are of a major concern. >> sorry but somebody needs to grow up. >> they are ranchers to say the border surge is causing migrants
to cross their land more frequently than ever right sometimes and stolen vehicles that destroy their property. >> we are all run cattle our biggest fear our cows get out per. >> more time fixing fences and hoping national leaders address the surge. >> we really wish someone would be in office that would understate the. >> that cared would take a stand and care for the ranchers and farmers break works gonzales says he's taking his own stand in his community he is writing for justice of the peace. >> here because of the way it works i had to run with the democratic party. does not necessarily mean that all of my views are democratic. >> rich reporting from texas. now her back with the panel. karl, you know this area quite well. what is happening in texas? and is there evidence of a trend elsewhere?
>> all you need to look is the difference between the presidential vote in 2016 the presidential vote in 2020 to see there's a huge shift going on in this part of texas. the further west you get from the gulf of mexico along the rio grande river, the bigger the shift to bread that is because you're getting deeper into energy country pretty avid for heart democrat truck driver who is making 100 10,000 dollars a year because it's got a cdl license and his wife is doing pretty well because there are a lot of oilfield people coming in, having lunch and leaving a nice tip. suddenly have the democrats saying the green new deal is terrific let's ended. then you take the border you take conservative values you take respect for law enforcement that includes the border patrol. there are a lot of people in south texas have a family member in the border patrol. and then growing concern given
explosive conversation here. were likely to seek to competitive races in the fall in south texas the likely republican candidates are latinas. and that says something about the changing. bill: harrell, how concerned should democrats be when you see stories like this? >> we should have serious concern. i think the issue, the crime, covid inflation and the border democrats at the figure out how to meet every day voters. many voters you have in the package with rich braid not get out in front of them but walk alongside them. i would argue the politic is stronger i am a blue dog democrat. when you can have an honest and open debate within the party about where we go. but that debate should be centered around responding to people's needs. i would argue this debate is not only happening the democratic party see liz cheney and you see it in texas the his strength and
never a bus debate and more portly respond to people. whichever party is able to address the cc ib, crime, covid, inflation, boarded a where they are that will be the party that wins the majority and the party that wins the white house in 24 per. >> three minutes i want to get an answer from all three of you on this. that is san francisco school board vote. something happened this week that is extremely rare. the reviewers know a recall vote was held after three members on the school board were kicked off bite overwhelming margin. more than 70% of the people who live in san francisco voted against them. now, this is a district represented by 85% of the voters of the democrats in 2020. there seems to be a covid vote preschools are close for your parents are saying enough is enough her as a mother yourself, how do you see the importance of this issue next november? >> you cannot underestimate the issue of schools and how it is
awake getting an angry voting base. he saw it the glenn young could vote. parents are fed up. you see the school board thanks san francisco is very interesting because what's happening this is to remove three members from the board who had tried to pull in a certain direction it was a democrats that remove them. what is significant is awake in the asian vote in san francisco they took away meritocracy for the most prominent high school where they turn that into a lottery that's where many of those asian kids went to school. bill: remember when that school close the boat board voted to remain and take off names like washington and lincoln put it in the end it didn't happen political put it this way quote it's not the renaming effort itself that was so potent it was the board spending hours on the exercise while schools set empty in student suffered".
they might be right but it is probably both and then some, karl. >> i think it is both. jen put her finger on it for the combination of things we saw this also northern virginia or there's an attempt to take a magnet school that shows students on the basis of economic and turn into it essence a lottery because they're too many asian american kids who were getting into the school. i think we're likely to see this repeated across the country democrats are going to have a real problem this is not going to just be a national issue there's going to be lots of people work at the state and local level who are going to be looking at things like don't mask and mandates and curriculum transparency and upholding schools of excellence. this issue is going to be repeated across the country. bill: the also general it was more synced writing and its editorial page did this to pray for can happen in san francisco of all places, democrats should be worried.
the woke may wake up to a far bigger shock in november. virginia was mentioned to one with agenda bones with karl barth republican swept the state less than three months ago. are the voters already ahead of the politicians? >> the voters are always ahead of the politicians that's why the results change so frequently and rapidly year after year. if extremism can be rejected in san francisco by democrats, i hope it happens more. extremism is rejected when anybody goes off the deep end. lowell high school which jennifer referenced there is the high school there in san francisco or the lottery instead of meritocracy being replaced parents are standing up in a politicians are well advised to listen to them. bill: let's leave it there, thank you panel nice to see all three of you and we'll see you again on the next fox news sunday, thank you. in a moment a final word on the
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