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>> absolutely. >> gretchen: we hope you have a great monday and the rest of the week and join us for the rest of the week from 6 to 9:00 a.m. >> brian: floyd mayweather tomorrow. news on health care, the president announces his way forward this week and it looks like he's ready to go nuclear, the white house calling for a simple up or down vote, pretty much done with a call for bipartisanship, house speaker nancy pelosi calling on dems to vote for the bill even if it costs them their political careers. in moments we'll talk to republican senator lamar alexander about the way forward on "america's newsroom". first, to the disturbing story on a monday, the al-qaeda tribulation that killed seven cia agents in afghanistan, speaking from beyond the grave in a new videotape this morning, the homicide bomber seen in this picture, calling his victims valuable prey, claiming the original plan was to kidnap a jordanian intelligence
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officer. that quickly changed when an opportunity to attack a group of americans became, quote, too good to pass up. his words on videotape. good morning, everybody, hope you had a good weekend, we start anew, i'm bill hemmer. martha: good morning, i'm martha maccallum, the surs working to authenticate this video, but balawi, he claims he lured what he called stupid cia officers into a fatal trap using the false promise to them of information on al caeda's number two as bait. bill: steph centanni leads this coverage, this is a devastating blow to the cia. >> reporter: not good news bill: how does this fill in open questions? >> reporter: first lot me tell you about this, a jordanian fizzist, hu man khalil al-balawi and his plan was to infiltrate the cia base in afghanistan known as forward operating base chapman.
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he apparently gave the jordanian and american intelligence officials information about al-qaeda locations to try and gain their trust, and eventually met with the operatives inside chapman. some of the information he geaf out was true but most was false and misleading. balawi says in the tape released yesterday, quote, the bait fell in the right spot and they went head over heels with excitement talking about the cia and other intelligence officials. his original plan was to kill the ordain an officer serving as his handler but stumbled across another opportunity, the chance to attack the cia officers and that happened in december of last year. seven american cia agents killed, as was the ordain an intelligence handler. >> we heard about the agency to far. what's the cia saying about the videotape? >> reporter: they haven't commented publicly on the video, whether or not it's actually a real video. it was released sunday by
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al-saham, the media arm of al-qaeda but one counterterrorism official is quoted as quoted that saying balawi overstates the damage inflicted on u.s. capabilities in the region, this official saying balawi was a murderer and terrorist and that he didn't stop, not even for an instant, any effective operations against al-qaeda, bill. bill: steph centanni on that story, we will look for more on that as we go throughout the morning here. martha: as you well remember, health care rose from the ashes and now there's word that cap and trade may find a new form. three key senators reportedly involved in a radical behind the scenes overhaul, senators graham, kerry, and lieberman, declaring that cap and trade as it was is dead. but now said to be weighing a new legislation that will cut greenhouse gas and carbon emissions, several lawmakers and critics saying it paves the way for a new gas station. stuart varney of fox business network joins us live, to all of us who drive
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to work every day, myself included, that doesn't sound like good news, stuart. >> it's over the horizon, it's reading between the lines, the three senators you mentioned, kerry, lieberman, graham, they are looking to tax carbon as a way of making us use less carbon, better emissions policy, better on climate control. okay? so if you tax carbon, essentially, the bottom line there is you are taxing gasoline. think about it. that would make us use less gasoline, less fossil fuel, less carbon emission, and it would bring in a great deal of money for the treasury, when it really needs a lot of money for the treasury. so read between the lines, over the horizon, a gas tax is probably built into this carbon tax legislation. martha: i mean, you feel like there's taxes being talked about in pretty much every possible spectrum of our lives. tax on investment, and president obama promised he wasn't going to tax anybody, couples who made under $250,000 but i don't know how you translate a lot of
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this into anything but that. >> well, you're right. if you refer specifically to a gas tax, of course, everybody pays it, no matter what you earn, if you buy a gallon of gas, you pay this tax. now, there's some political cover for the president here, in that there's probably going to be a coalition from both sides of the aisle in the senate, which would approve this carbon tax. as you mentioned, we've got senator kerry, democrat, senator lieberman, independent, and senator graham, republican, that's a cross-section of the senate, who through all accounts looks like this has some favorable showing in the senate and that gives political cover to the president to raise taxes on the middle class of everybody else. martha: just a quick question for you, it seems there's a growing relationship between lindsey graham and rahm emanuel, talk about a gitmo deal between the two of them in themselves of -- in terms of how to deal -- i wonder if there's a hand in the white house from this, a political hand from the white house emerging from this as well. >> martha, i follow the mope! i'm not sure about -- >> martha: a reasonable
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question, something to think about over coffee. >> i don't know about lindsey graham, i don't know, but lindsey graham is appealing to a new demographic. he's going along with the concept of climate change. he doesn't mention global warming. it's all climate change. so you could say he's appealing to the younger voters who are very much interested in the issue. he's going around it with a gas tax. martha: stuart, great to have you with us as always. stuart varney, fox business network. bill: some developing news from a devastated country, rescue workers smashing through fallen walls and going through rubble, searching for survivors in chile after a 8.8 magnitude quake hurt that country. well over 700,000 have died. the chilean -- sorry, 700, excuse me. seven hundred deaths reported so far. the chilean president says a
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growing number of people are still missing, meanwhile, 500,000 homes have been destroyed or damaged. secretary of state hillary clinton will visit that country tomorrow. phil keating has more from the capitol city of santiago. phil, good morning there. >> reporter: good morning, bill. i'm on top of one of the very large brick walls and that surrounds a pretty large factory here that manufactures furniture for offices, as well as homes. it fell down, smack down on its side, all brook and the roof has totally collapsed here. this is one of unknown numbers of structures at this point that have been completely totaled from that massive earthquake saturday morning where most of the chileans were sleeping, however, they have resiliency here. this morning, rush hour is massively jammed, people trying to get back to work and even the president, michelle bachelet, saying that despite the fact that this is a catastrophe beyond
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most chileans' modern memories, she says it's going to take a whole lot of work to get the country back on work but clearly they are very proud that the death toll is what it is, and that it's not greater, as many people suspected it was going to be when the first news spread around the world as far as looting, no reports of any more looting today. it was rampant yesterday. south of santiago, especially the town of concepcion, which was close to the epicenter and virtually every marketplace was reportedly ransacked by people, just grabbing groceryes, food, water, supplies and electronics. clearly in some cases, they were smiling as the tv cameras rolled. i was not -- it was simply out of greed and opportunity and that certainly has chileans talking to journalists here, just
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absolutely aghast at what their fellow country persons were doing. regardless, 10,000 military personnel on the spot in two regions last night to impose a curfew and they remain trying to keep the peace today as the country now struggles to get the infrastructure which is very damaged, back up, safe to drive on and walk around. bill: good to have you there, phil, we'll be in touch next hour, phil keating on the ground in santiago. tsunami warnings were across the pacific, but as the world braced for the worst, places braced like japan and hawaii. nothing happened. can science read the minds of mother nature? have we learned anything since 2004? we'll talk about that. martha: she went out for a jog and never came back, news this morning on the missing california teenager chelsea king, san diego
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county sheriffs arresting a man this weekend, they have discovered links to king, 1400 volunteers searched a park in nearby san diego, king's father found her car parked at the entrance of that park on thursday. we're going to have much more on this developing story, we'll get you chelsea's parents in a little while. bill: think your commute was tough over the weekend? check out that dash cram video of an officer's experience on an icy roadway, how these people survived today. also, there's this, roll it. >> why are we here? we're not here just to self-perpetuate our service in congress. we're here to do the job, for the people, to get them results. martha: that's house speaker nancy pelosi, of course, calling on lawmakers to do their job and vote for health care, she says. coming up we'll hear from lamar alexander, he went head to head with the president at the summit. we'll get his new take on
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the story today. that's next.
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bill: still, a lot to consider today, a day after the sunday talk shows, where the house speaker nancy pelosi in one interview called on lawmakers to walk the proverbial political plank, telling them to vote for the overhaul even if it costs them their political careers, congressman paul ryan told chris wallace on fox news sunday if the vote were held today the bill would fail. roll this. >> they do not have the votes from our best counts. i couldn't count her out because she is very good at muscling votes. they were down 24 on cap and trade the night before, they passed it by eight. the speaker is very good at making deals behind closed doors and muscling votes, but right now, they don't have the votes. bill: that's on the house side. on the senate side this morning, my next guest says passing this overhaul is a com cozie mission for democrats, senator lamar alexander, good morning, sir, let's start with the news of the day and the news appears to be this. on wednesday, the president
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is going to make public or announce some way forward or path forward. what do you know about that announcement, senator? >> i know nothing about it. i hope what he does is say look, i've decided to shelf the bill, heard great ideas at the summit with republicans, some things to work together to reduce cost, so let's do it. bill: think that will happen? >> doubt it. based on what i've heard. i'm afraid that they're aiming toward what is a political com cozie mission. the country has said in every way they know how, town meetings, elections, public opinion polls, we don't want this bill, the democrats are saying we don't care, we're going to pass it, anyway. so what will that mean? that will mean the next two, three-months they'll be jamming it through, a very busy -- messy procedure in washington and if it passes we'll spend the rest of the year, the campaign, to try to repeal it. bill: you'll spend the rest of the year on a new campaign to repeal a bill that the democrats would have pushed through congress
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>> i think that's exactly right. bill: what does the campaign look like, senator? >> i don't think i've ever seen one, to tell you the truth, but i'm sure it's coming, because the american people don't want the bill. and what it means is that if the democrats push this through, an unpopular health care bill, at a time when the real issues are jobs, terror, and debt, the health care bill is going to find every democratic candidate for every public office in november and republicans are going to try elect the majority who come in here and try to provide a check and balance to more taxes and more spending. bill: that's an interesting point about the votes. on the screen, i'll show you one of the fox polls we did last week, released on a friday, 67 percent say they're fed up with any health care reform debate now, 30 percent, new york city they don't feel that way. you talked about these elections. "new york times", sunday be morning, front page story, they went out and talked to moderate democrats on the house side who had voted yes the first time around, and can't wait for the opportunity to vote no the
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next time around, so they can take that argument to the constituents in their own district. if that's true, what does that say? >> what that says is political kamikazee mission. there had never been a big piece of legislation passed without a bipartisan vote and the reason is so the country will accept it. that's the reason the president johnson wrote the civil rights bill in the '60s, he wanted the country to accept it and in this case the democrats say we don't care if you accept it, we're going to jam it. as the president said at the summit, that's what elections are for. bill: on abc, you made an argument on sunday that when president bush was pushing for private social security accounts, that he pushed and he pushed and he pushed and he failed and you thought there was a make or break point to the former president. have you stopped and shifted and gone to a more bipartisan way, he would have gotten the deal done. do you think this is a good
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example for president obama to learn from? >> i think it is a good idea. >> how so? >> the president wouldn't have gotten private accounts but he would have been able perhaps to make social security solvent and social security, medicare and medicaid are what's breaking the budget. so if the president listened on thursday, as he said he intends to, he heard a lot of republicans, coburn, ryan, alex ander, saying we've got ideas, we want to put costs, put that bill on the shelf, we can write a bill in a week that would take five, 15, 20 steps that would reduce health care costs. for example the people in california that are going to see rates go up, what if they could shop across straight lines for cheaper coverage? that's one step. bill: we'll see what happens wednesday and maybe some of those ideas are brought forward by wednesday, we'll see. i need a 10-2nd answer on this: if it's risky to go forward and it's risky to
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stop, what do you do if you're a democratic lawmaker? what do you do if you're the president? do you just say okay, let's chuck this and change the national dialogue? >> if you're the president, you say i hear you, i'm going to adjust where i'm going, we want to reduce health care costs, i'm going to take your ideas and start over and make it possible for americans to buy health care and i need your bi-smart an support and need get that. bill: he would get it, you say? >> he would. if he shelved the bill and worked with us step by step on ideas like giving small business health plans a chance, buying insurance across state lines, getting rid of medical malpractice junk lawsuits, waste, fraud and abuse, as dr. coburn talked about at the summit, all those are good ideas to reduce cost and the way to increase access to health care is to reduce the cost. bill: thank you for your time, lamar alexander from the hill, republican from tennessee. we'll wait on lindsey now.
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martha. martha: well, the earthquake in chile created panic around the entire pacific rim. there was word that a massive tsunami was on the way. fortunately for hawaii, those waves did not come. so what happened out there in the ocean? and can we ever predict what mother nature is going to do? bill: also a california teenager went out for a run, did not come home. what happened to chelsea king? there is new information about her disappearance and chelsea's parents join us after the break. >> if you know anything, help us bring her home. >> she's a great kid. >> she's such a good girl. she needs to come home. /d/d/d/da
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martha: good moorngd wait until you see this today from an ohio highway. watch this.
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>> oh my. martha: this all happened during that icy weather that had so many of us skidding around the highways in this country. a police officer was helping a motorist who was on the shoulder who probably -- look at that! my gosh. well, that car spins out of control, it crashed into the officer, lieutenant john lambert pushed another driver out of the way, which you can kind of see happening there, saving his life before the officer took the brunt of that hit. the officer did lose consciousness, we're told, for a few minutes but later woke up in the hospital, multiple frequents -- fractures but he is expected to survive that horrible incident. bill: wow, middle of the highway like that when? not supposed to go that way. 24 minutes past the hour now. there are new developments in the case of the missing teenager out of san diego oarks 17-year-old chelsea king, a high school honor student, disappearing thursday after going for a run in the park. thousands of volunteers turned out over the weekend to help police and the fbi in the search for chelsea.
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police now arresting a registered sex offenders -- offender, 30-year-old john albert gardener, taken into custody outside of a restaurant over the weekend. it's not clear what charges he faces or what led investigators to him or what his connection might to be chelsea. but brent and kelly king, the parents of chelsea, are with me now out of southern california. good morning to you. my very best to you and your family, i can't imagine what you're going through right now. all i can say is stay strong for now. mr. king, what do you think is your best clue right now to getting your daughter home quickly and safe? >> i think our best clue is who the sheriff's department has arrested, or has -- i'm not sure if it's the right word, arrested, but who they have, and anybody that has any information on him and who he is, please share it. bill: do you know what the connection is with the man now under arrest? >> no, the sheriff's department has told us they have enough evidence that
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they thought they should bring a nern and that's what we're going off of. bill: have they shared that evidence with you? >> no. no. bill: if she's capable of hearing you, mrs. king, what do you want to say to your daughter now? >> i want her to say that honey, it won't be much longer now. we are -- we're waiting for you, we're going to bring you home, stay strong, and we're almost will, baby. bill: would she ever run away, has she in the past? >> never. never. chelsea is not that kind of kid. bill: i mentioned she's an honors student, doing great in school, has a lot of friends. what kind of a daughter is she, mrs. king? >> she is every parent's dream in terms of a daughter, in terms of a child. bright, outgoing, compassionate, kind, giving, involved, thinking outside of herself. a lot of kids this age can
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be sometimes a little self-centered, but you know, their world is very small, it revolves around then. chelsea has always looked out around her and outside of herself to see what she can do to make things better in the world and her community, you know, in the neighborhood. bill: she sounds like a wonderful person. >> she is. >> she is. bill: let's get her home, huh? mr. king, have the police given you much information as to why they picked up this guy, gardener? >> they've given us all kinds of information on the physical evidence they found at the scene and this group that we have out here in san diego and the way they're coordinating their efforts, it's beyond reapproach. -- reproach. i'm so pleased what they said they're doing, if they said they're going to pick up 12 more people, i'd trust
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them on that. >> you have a website,, we want our viewers to know that. if anyone has information, go to that website, call the local police in southern california and let's get her home. brent and kelly king, thank you, hang in there, be tough. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. bill: our prays are with you from southern california. twenty-eight minutes now past the hour. martha. martha: well, nancy pelosi says her members should bet their careers on health care reform, that it is that important that it be passed. but is the real career being gambled with perhaps? nanc we pelosi, a fair and balanced debate, three minutes from now.
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martha: this crossing the wires, georgia republican nathan deale is resigning from k. he's going to concentrate on the governor's race, he is now the second person to resign their house seat. the other one is representative from hawaii, to try to run for governor of their state. so interesting, we're seeing a lot of people make big career decisions in the past few months and we're going to follow them closely as we head into the big elections in november. bill: heck of a story come november, huh? a big story between now and then, too. the jobs number is not getting any better, we can see that week to week. now there are new concerns about extending some of these unemployment benefits to more than a million americans. the house approved the measure but the senate has not been able to overcome the okays of a single lawmaker, that is kentucky republican jim bunning. kelly wright is live in d.c.
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on this. why is senator bunning blocking this bill from going forward? >> reporter: good morning, first of all, bill. republican senator jim bunning of kentucky is holding up the measure, the $10 billion measure, because he wants the benefits to be paid for before the legislation is actually passed. senator bunning says congress should use unspent stimulus funds to pay for the extension of the benefits. democrats calling the bill an emergency measure to help a million unemployed people ask for immediate passage of the measure and determine the means of funding it later. well, normally, one senator can't hold up a measure but democrats were trying to use a procedure called unanimous consent. senator bunning refused to yield to that. so as of this morning we have a standoff, 1 million unemployed workers, temporarily without unemployment and health insurance benefits, and vice president biden, bill, stepped up the pressure on senator bunning's actions. >> exceeds 1 million people,
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1 million people next month will be thrown off the unemployment rolls, 1 million people will be thrown into -- with nothing but what i would call despair. >> reporter: republican senator jon kyl of arizona tells fox news his fellow republican colleague senator bunning is correct in saying the bill should be paid for. kyl says, and he points to congress just passing the so-called pay-go legislation, which is supposed to require that congress find offsets or other savings if it's going to spend any money in the future. bill: kelly, just to be clear, bunning is not opposed to paying out the money to americans that need it but he is asking where it should come from and his suggestion is there's unspent hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions of dollars in the stimulus plan, take it from there, correct? >> reporter: absolute -- yes, absolutely not. it may appear as a tough stance but he's trying to
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hold the democrats', their feet to the fire on what they propose and that is a pay as you go and no way has he opposed the extension of the benefits. he realizes there are millions of people out there who need this benefit. and so that's where it goes from here. the benefits have technically expired, bill, but the senate is expected to renew them on tuesday with a straight up or down vote. that means people will still be able to see their doctors and get their benefits as well. senator kyl also tells fox news the extension will pass because it's a temporary measure. he knows the longer term expansion will be more difficult to pay. bill: kelly, thanks. we'd like to know what you think at home, go to, click on the you decide link and we're asking this: is president obama keeping his word on jobs? the results of that poll a bit later, unscientific poll, we say, online, martha: all right, well, some are calling this sort of a damn the torpedo's move, power ahead on health
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care, as democrats leave the summit behind and take a big gamble. here is nancy pelosi defending this move. take a look. >> this will take courage, it took courage to pass social security, it took courage to pass medicare and many of the same forces that were at work decades ago are at work again, against this bill. but the american people need it, why are we here? we're not here just to self perpetuate our service in congress. we're here to do the job for the american people, to get them results that gives them not only health security but economic security. martha: bob beckel joins us, professor of ad-- advanced political studies and kate obenshain is with the republican party of virginia and vice president of the young america's foundation. welcome to both of you. good to see you both on this monday morning. >> good morning. martha: bob, nancy pelosi says damn the tore peedoes and power ahead. >> you know, she's right.
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there are going to be people that probably lose their seats because of this vote, if they vote yes, but i'll tell you she's also been right, if you look at the history of medicare and medicaid, when they were brought up, the republicans attacked it viciously, it passed, because the democrats had such a majority. but the polls showed the people didn't want it. and they didn't have polls when social security were passed but my guess is it was also -- editorials were negative on it, it was called socialism then, medicare was called socialism and now we hear it again. so i think history is right, she's right about it, and i think it's time -- in time, it's going to be prove toes as popular as social security is today. martha: i think a lot of people would maybe take some issue about how those programs have turned out. some of those people are pointing their finger at health care for the sale reasons, kate, right? >> they did a bang-up job going around the will for the american people at medicaid and social security and look at where we are. nancy pelosi says it will take courage to thwart of the will of the people. they have the benefit of
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witnessing what the will was as we heard from massachusetts and repeatedly. nancy pelosi is arguably one of the most powerful speakers of the house and she will bear responsibility for ramming this down the throats of many members who actually know better. if stupak and his crew support it i think that will be damning for them but she has a tough row to hoe. she's lost at least three members of her coalition who supported it, she has many of the blue dogs on board. right now she does not good the vote to go around the will. martha: you've got to wonder, if of the clips that we looked at, youth in the november campaigns, trying to align their views with congressmen and congresswomen who go along with her on this -- >> you can guarantee you're going to see those in ads. i used to make ads in campaigns and frankly on social security, mostly, but by the way, kate, i don't know whether you're against social security or medicare,
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but i didn't quite hear you right. >> i'm certainly against the fact that they're defunct now and against them bankrupting the united states of america. >> that's what i wanted to hear what you said about it. >> something needs to be done about that. >> the reason i think they got the votes in the house or will have the votes, a number of house members who voted no on the bill are retiring and now they don't have to worry about the politics of it and they can change their votes. secondly because you have fewer house members now, because of this retirement in georgia, and the one in how's, the votes don't have to be 418 this time. >> you know what? i want to say this to bob for a second and go back to kate, lamar alexander was on and bill was speaking with him and he basically said as has been said many times, let's start over, you know, and is there -- why is there shame in that, bob? why not throw out that big bat -- fat bill that sat in front of eric kantor, wouldn't both sides benefit, wouldn't democrats benefit also if they sat down at the tail and worked this out
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together and said we think this is a good deal for the american people? >> first of all, we do think it's a good deal to the american people. secondly, lamar alexander, he used to be a guy that frankly i respected a lot but he's become kind avo kind of a hit man on this. kantor is kantor, he's a right winger and that's what you expect out of him. having said that, look, in the end 85 percent of this bill that we got out of this summit, 85 percent, they agree on, the republicans and democrats. martha: what? >> yes, 85 percent of the bill, they agree on. what they don't agree on is the republicans' bill, they want to cover 3 million uninsured people, democrats, 30 million people. martha: all right. kate? >> look, bob, look, bob, the american people do not believe in 1/6 of the american economy being taken over by the government, they do not agree with 85 percent of this bill. what they need to look at, what the democrats need to look at is some of the reasonable suggestions that were brought forward last week by paul ryan, by lamar
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alexander, but they're not going to do that because this is an ideological bill by an ideological president with the determination to take over a massive project of the american economy and you're going to lose the majority, bob. go for it. >> wait a second, what is ideological is to say this is a government takeover of health care. that is absolute incredible distortion of the fats. you distort them, you usually don't do that but you did. martha: thanks you guys. >> you know there's a takeover because government health care will undercut private health insurance. martha: we got to go, you guys, bob beckel is shaking his head. we'll see you soon. >> more coffee for you two! 19 minutes before the hour. we saw on saturday millions heading for higher ground, fearing a tsunami would shallow -- swallow the shoreline throughout the pacific but most of the waves never happened, especially in hawaii. how did the experts get it so wrong?
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martha: new video of a homicide bomber. he killed seven of our cia agents in afghanistan. what he is now saying on this tape about the worst attack on the agency in nearly 30 years.
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bill: mother earth was moving again over the weekend and killing hundreds along the way in chile, that earthquake that struck that region is known as a megathrust, considered one of the most powerful quakes on the planet. alicia acuna is at the earthquake center in golden, colorado. we've had at least three quakes in the past two months. what does this suggest to the experts you talk to, alici snavment >> reporter: good morning, bill, the experts are saying this isn't actually atypical at all. i'm here with paul earl, a geologist with the seismic earthquake center. if we could look at the past 30 days around the world here, and this is all the same activity, correct?
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>> certainly. if you come to our website on any given day you'll see there are a lot of earthquakes all around the world, typically there's a hot bed of earthquakes around the ring of fire, which surrounds the pacific ocean, which is where this recent earthquake happened, but once an earthquake has impacted a large population, you tend to be more -- they tend to be more keen and observant that there are earthquakes in the world. as i said, on any given day, you come to our website and you can see a picture like this, with earthquakes all over the place. >> i'd like to move over to another map that we have here. bill mentioned that this is a megathrust earthquake. this is a real-time map of seismic activity here. this is obviously the chile region. can you explain exact lewhat we're seeing? >> what we're seeing is the massive number of aftershocks that happened after the chile earthquake. you can see the main shock is buried here in the middle, propagating outwards, when the earthquake happened. the fault ruptured from the earthquake and went both north and south, roughly outlined by these
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aftershocks. we've had about 120 aftershocks of magnitude five and greater in this area. the thregathrust means this was a huge earthquake, this was about 300 miles long on the fault that ruptured and went to the fault -- this plate went beneath south america, so the plate went beneath south america, causing this megathrust. >> thank you, paul earl with the earthquake center and bill, we'll be monitoring all the activities with the aftershocks. bill: hawaii and other areas in the pacific dodged a bullet. that's a good thing and we know that. the experts told everyone to head for higher ground, fearing the worst. it was an 8-foot wave. five years after the devastation in south asia that killed 200,000 people, is our warning system any better? john rundle is a seismologist, good morning to you, can you explain what happened here? >> good morning. basically, the last time i was on one of these programs
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was six years ago, we were seeing 230,000 people die. in fact, in september 29th of last year, there was a magnitude 8.1 earthquake in the hebretes in samoa and tonga. we couldn't have done this five years ago. bill: the forecast turned out to be so extreme compared to what happened in places like hawaii and -- i'm just trying to figure out, over the past five years, has the warning system gotten any better? >> well, it depends. it's like weather forecasting. it's a model-based enterprise. basically you have to have a good source model of the earthquake, then a good propogation model across the ocean, then a good tsunami run model when it gets ashore. the problem is with an earthquake that big, it actually takes a fair amount of time, perhaps even several hours, to get a good fix on the type of earthquake that it was. in this particular case, the zone in that area is horizontal so you're getting
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a side to side motion, instead of an up and down motion which you need to make waves so in retrospect, it's not that surprising it took so hong. bill: i was glued to the tv on saturday, i was waiting for this thing, i didn't want to see it, and we did not. the media cried wolf, president obama came out in the middle of the day on saturday, everybody was all over this thing and no one knew what they were talking about. >> well, that's a political question. i guess the lines of communication have to be improved between the science community and the political community. i mean, we're trying to do that ourselves on a smaller scale with a website we've created for forecasting called open hazards to inform the public. usgs does a good job of it as well with their website. if people don't inform themselves, there's not much you can do. bill: i can understand that. and i appreciate the fact that you put out the warning to make sure you cover your tracks. but it just seems so far off from the reality. seems like we scared a lot of people for no good
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reason. in chile, where the earthquake happened, there were few islands that were devastated so in that sense there was a tsunami of sorts but it did not trail across the pacific like so many trict \dollars/{^ed} -- predicted. and john i know the science is not exact. we're trying to figure it out for the next time. there's a graphic on our screen that shows how the ocean moves when the earth moves underneath it, and we'll continue to work on the science and with the help of folks like you in california, we'll get better next time, i imagine. thank you john. >> yes, i hope so. bill: you bet, john rundell out of california, thanks. martha: as friends and family gather to say goodbye to dawn brancheau, we are learning more about the moments leading up to the death. why some are saying dawn's life could have been saved.
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martha: this fox news alert for you, we are just getting word of a reported murder-suicide in virginia. woodbridge, virginia, this is the neighborhood this happened in, as you're getting this aerial shot, it's roundtree road and sources are saying the residents here operates a day care out of their basement and there's an apparent murder-suicide situation being investigated at that home. we will keep right on top of that as we get further details and bring them to you. bill: in the meantime, martha, taking a look at the dow 30, right now up almost 50 points, for the dow 30 as we look ahead to the week here, we got the unemployment numbers last thursday, which were stunning to a lot of folks, and we're just a tick below 500,000 in the weekly jobless claims. we'll get a better reading of the economy as we go throughout the week here. but a decent start right now. we'll see where it goes.
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10374. martha: let's talk about this for a bit, shall we? what a way to end the winter olympics in vancouver. i know everybody was watching this game probably, the men's hockey gold medal game between the u.s. and canada, take a look. >> path rin cain, filtering it across. rattling behind, in front, he takes off with it, they score! martha: what an incredible -- i mean, there was like 20 seconds or something to go. look at that. it went right into that corner, and it was absolutely beautiful, and we have this great aerial shot showing it going in and there was so much rejoicing, and in family rooms like mine, they were screaming across america but it ended up with canada scoreing in overtime. it was a fantastic game, the u.s. took silver, they had long faces about taking
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silver but i want to say you guys did a fantastic job, you made your country very proud as did all of our athletes out there. as one of the kids at my house said, did we win the olympics? we did, we won the olympics! bill: for canada to win that game, the last event, in vancouver in their country, in their sport martha: i know. bill: against the americans, after they lost a week prior was the best finish possible for the canadians. martha: we were saying it's good for hockey. hockey is a great american sport. there are a lot of superstars on that team that need a lot more attention. we'd love to have them on the show, right? bill: i lost my voice yelling atna game. in a moment president obama set to pave his way forward in the health care debate. wield find it-- we'll find out if democrats are willing to risk everything to get that done. martha: we spoke with her parents moments ago, brent and kelly king are pleading
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morning, folks the question about health care is what will president obama do now? we expect the white house will signal yet another way forward on health care. and, it looks like that way may have the word "nuclear", somewhere in the description, here and what is this -- this is my question this morning, what is the -- is the bill going to look like if they can find something they can agree on and push through reconciliation who will get insured out there and now there is a new name for the reconciliation, a simple majority and sounds like a democratic idea and a simple majority as we start the brand new hour of "america's newsroom," on this monday, everybody i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer, and we spend a year of our lives on the story and there is more to come,
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and this is high stakes political theater. reconciliation, or the nuclear option. requires only 51 votes to pass the bill on the senate side, and, widely considered a back-door maneuver to get around republican opposition on the table here. >> and the g.o.p. promises political punishments for democrats that go along with it but house speaker nancy pelosi says it is worth the risk in her opinion, and, wendell goler is live at the white house and what is the timeframe? and when do we expect to hear what the president wants to do now? >> martha, the president could announce as early as wednesday, plans to move toward a vote in which the house was -- would pass the senate's health care reform bill, and the senate would make a series of changes or fixes designed to make the measure acceptable and the health care advisor thinks the democrats have the votes to do this if only a simple majority is needed. >> the health care reform has already passed the house and the senate with not only a majority in the senate but a super majority and we're not talk
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about changing rules, the presidents is talk about, do we need to address the problem, and does it make sense to have a simple up-or-down vote on whether or not we want to fix the problems. >> white house officials have for several days challenged the idea that the reconciliation process which republicans call the nuclear option, is somehow extraordinary, and point out that the process is used to pass the bush administration's tax cuts, and to pass -- i'm sorry. welfare reforms in the clinton administration, martha. megyn: what are the republicans saying about all of this, wendell? >> reporter: they say, it violates the spirit of reconciliation to use that to pass a health care reform which would affect a sixth of the economy and one democrat agrees, robbed byrd robert byrd of west virginia and aren't sure the democrats have the votes to do it and it only passed the house by five votes in november and jon kyl says it would be difficult to get vulnerable democrats to accept
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what another republican calls the kamikaze mission. >> when they teak their vote in the house it was many months before the legislation was well-known to the american people and it is so unpopular now with the american people and i doubt, seriously, that there will be enough house members, house democrats, who will risk their careers to vote for the legislation, the second time around. >> reporter: after already high, democrats will lose congressional seats in tleks and nan -- the election and nancy pelosi says it will take courage to vote for the health care bill. megyn: wendell goler live, thank you, wendell. bill: a string of aftershocks, rocking chile this morning, hampering the scramble to dig out survivors, and chilean military and police have also moved into help speed up the aid distribution, and, stop sporadic looting that has broken out in the hard hit region and david lee miller is streaming live out of argentina. with the latest, what is the
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latest on the death toll, over 700, is it, david lee? >> reporter: that's right, bill, the death toll continues to inch upward, over 700, now, we don't have a precise figure but more of the lines of communication are opening up and the more bad news, the government is distributing. specifically around the area of concepcion, this is 70 miles, this city, surrounding area, 70 miles from the epicenter. a number of buildings collapsed, among them, a 15 story mid rise apartment house. residents there very angry because it was a relatively new structure and opened a few months ago, and, people want to know how it was able to pass the country's rigid earthquake specifications, yet still collapse, and there is, bill, some amazing good news, a father and his 7-year-old daughter, were on the 13th floor of the building and fell to the ground, miraculously and survived with little more than scratches but that is the exception, not the
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rule, and, lastly, bill, one other reason we have seen the death toll increase, spike over the weekend, the authorities have a figure from one of the coastal towns, hit by a tsunami, and they say the death toll there, 350 people, and, again we expect that number to increase. >> david lee, chilean governments will handle it on their own and don't need outside assistance. has that changed? >> reporter: the government here has changed its tune and the president speaking out saying this is a -- and i quote a massive catastrophe and now the government is in fact asking for help, and a number of countries, and entities, now stepping up to the plate, among them, japan and the european union, and, in the next few hours, actually, tomorrow, we expect hillary clinton is going to arrive in the chilean capital of santiago. and will be able to see for herself the damage done, and the u.s. has offered its help. we expect to hear some specific details about the extent the u.s. is going to give a helping hand and one thing that is very
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badly needed according to the chilean government is, they are asking for rescue workers to assist those who are -- have been on the job for 48 hours, and, are literally exhausted, they say they have to continue digging under the rubble, and they need more manpower to do that, bill. bill: it is a big job ahead, david lee miller, thank you for that and you can see up-to-the-minute information on the story about the earthquake and the recovery efforts and pictures to show you what is happening in chile and david lee is covering the latest on the story, posting updates at that is on our web site, right now. megyn: it has been six weeks since the major earthquake in haiti, that essential turned the capital city of port-au-prince into a pile of rubble. and now, people are turning to the huge cleanup job that is still existing, on the ground in haiti, now, crews are racing around, against the clock, and, to clear out the debris, of ruined stores an houses, and apartment buildings. martha: the heavy spring rain will start soon, they expect and that will make it difficult for
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the workers who want to unclog the drainage ditches, before that rain starts to come in. international cleanup planners say it will take 1,000 dump trucks, 1,000 days, to clear it all away. now, altogether that comes to 25 times the debris of the world trade center. bill: wow. martha: impossible to imagine. bill: and the stock market, up 64 points in trading and we'll see what is moving there and on money matters a key figure in the enron collapse asking for another day in court, former enron ceo jeffrey skilling, lobbying the supreme court for a new trial. the convicted felon serving 24 years, for his role in one of the largest corporate bankruptcy filings ever, skilling's around set to argue the case was, soaked with hostility and the conviction unconstitutional and, the energy giant went belly up after a massive accounting fraud scandal inside the building's doors. martha: today, is an important
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day at deere creek middle school. classes are resuming. six days after a man with a rifle opened fire on the students, as they left school for the day. and, boy was this eerily similar to what we saw happen in columbine, and there were two students who were shot in this, and they are both recovering, thankfully we're told from their injurieses and both will be okay. and the accused gunman, a former student at the school remains in jail and his father believes his son suffers from schizophrenia and one of the most amazing stories out of that was the teacher who tacked the gunman and we listened to his amazingly moving words as he talked about, you know, being sorry he couldn't do more to save the students that were shot, but he was a phenomenal hero in that story. bill: certainly was. developments this morning on a story out of southern california, police have now arrested a registered sex offender in the disappearance of a high school honors student. 17-year-old chelsea king has not been found yet.
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she disappeared thursday after going for a run near her home north of san diego and we talked with her parents last hour and here's what they are saying now, about the search for their daughter: >> she is every parent's dream in terms of our daughters -- in terms of a daughter, in terms of a child, bright, out going, compassionate, kind, giving, involved, in things outside of herself, a lot of kids this age can be sometimes a little self--- i don't want to say self-centered but their world is very masmall and it revolves around them and chelsea also looked around her and outside of herself to see what she can do to make things better in the world. bill: she sounds like a wonderful young lady, aged 17, an honors student and we spoke to the parents about the latest on the search and they made an arrest over the weekend, 30-year-old man, john gardener and we don't know what connection he may or may not
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have to the 17-year-old teenager. but we're hoping for the best. is the web site they've set up and we're in touch with the police department out there, too, when we get developments, on this story, you'll hear them first on "america's newsroom." martha: he's accused of killing eight cia agents, a deadly attack in afghanistan and now the suspected homicide bomber is talking. how he lured american spies into a death trap. next. bill: family and friends gathering today, a funeral for dawn as we say a final farewell to her life and some are blaming the victim for the deadly encounter. is that right? back in three minutes. ♪ ♪ ♪
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hurricane-force winds and torrential rains, it sounds biblical and reports say most of the victims drowned and some were killed by falling trees and collapsing buildings. these winds were more than 100 miles an hour, well over hurricane strength, the top of the of oil tower, hundreds of thousands without power and locals say it is the worst storm they've experienced in decades. martha: today there is a chilling videotape, that has been released of a homicide bomber who took the lives of 7 of our best cia agents last december in afghanistan, the bomber was a double agent who was working undercover, for al qaeda, and in the video he says he lured the agents into a trap using the promise of a location on ayman al-zawahiri's bait and the bomber says his original plan was to kidnap a jordanian intelligence officer and then got an opportunity that was too good to pass up, a large group
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of cia officers, all in one place. he called the agent in this tape, quote, valuable prey. mike shoier is with us today, good to have you here. i'm sure listening to these things being said, he called the agents stupid and said they should have known what he was up to and it is as painful for you as most americans who understand the sacrifice they were making living in afghanistan under these circumstances and working there. what do you make of the tape. >> it is typical al qaeda procedure and it was a very -- i don't mean to sound calloused but it was an excellent operation. any -- an operation that anybody in the western services would have been pleased to conduct. and, then, this part of the will, afterwards, or his statement, his interview is also typical of al qaeda, waiting for them -- the western media, coverage to fade. and, then, dominating the media with a follow-up. martha: that is an excellent
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point, because there were two tapes and this is a homicide bomber and he died in this attack and these they're two tapes that have survived him. so, what is their goal? what did they want to achieve by putting it out there now. >> they clearly want to put out, if you read what he said today, that, they want us to know this war is about what we do. our support for the israeli war in gaza, our support for the pakistani government, our support for karzai, it was very clear in the tape, i think they also made very clear that people like john brennan and general jones, who say al qaeda is broken and on the run, they clearly proved that was wrong with what was a very good, very lethal operation. martha: you know, there was talk after this happened, because it was devastating and as i pointed out we haven't lost this many agents in one place since 1983, which i don't have to tell you. you know, i guess, one of the questions is, it moved this group, if anything needed to spur them on, it seems to have spurred them on even more, we
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have had several successful drone attacks, very high level taliban leaders in the region, since then. haven't we? >> yes, it has been very active -- a very active month and more because of targets that -- availability, than any kind of intention but i would warn americans that they should not fall for the idea that the drone can win a war for us. the cia is using the drone and getting people one at a time, while the u.s. military is now committed to some kind of a shake hands and be friends with the afghans war. and i'm afraid we are kind of in a sinking condition at the moment, in afghanistan. martha: what -- elaborate on that, michael. >> well, you know, ultimately, you win or lose by killing enough of the enemy to make them realize that the game isn't worth the gamble, the cia has been killing or capturing al qaeda people since august of 1995. they are much stronger today than then and if we don't use the u.s. military as it is supposed to be used and not as
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care-givers and ditch-diggers, we are never going to be able to defeat this enemy, it is simply too big. martha: the scenario you are describing would include the deaths of civilians, because we know they are using civilians to protect themselves, and we know that part of what you are talking about, reaching out to people on the ground there, is to balance that out. >> well, the reason the insurgency is going well at the moment, is because, afghans, both those who support the taliban and those who don't, are sick of being occupied by u.s. and nato forces. they are beginning to consider us just successors to the soviets. so, the idea, somehow, we convince -- can convince them we are good occupiers is a piece of madness, really, that is only going to get more americans killed. martha: that is a pretty devastating assessment of what is going on, and i -- it is good to talk to you as always, we appreciate your insights, michael, thank you very much. >> thank you, ma'am. bill: 19 minutes past the hour and we remember the life of dawn
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brancheau, the 40-year-old trainer drowned by a killer whale an even as the show with tillikum goes on there is videotape and pictures that reveal a part of the tragedy that may have prevented the death. martha: and the tail section is the only part left of this plane that is intact. what eye witnesses saw that may give us a clue to what happened.
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martha: federal aviation investigators are looking into a plane crash in bristow, oklahoma that killed both people on board. the tail section of the plane what's the only part still in act. after the wreck, witnesses say it sound like toed pla-- sounde like the plane was having engine trouble and was trying to land at the airport, but bank and
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struck power lines and investigators have not released the names of the people killed in the crash. bill: details about what might have led to the death of the trainer at sea world last week and meanwhile from chicago today friends and family members gathered for the funeral of dawn brancheau. age 40, died last week when a 12,000 pound killer whale grabbed her and pulled her into the water. she was a trainer at sea world for 15 years and sea world e resumed the whale performances over the weekend but trainers not allowed in the water with the animals, anita padilla is watching the funeral from wfld out of chicago and you talked with the family and they shared new information would you and what did they say, anita. >> reporter: we know that the whale pulled dawn ban chow into the water -- dawn brand cho into the water and her hair was long and they confirmed she was growing out her hair for locks of love, and, you know, that was
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tough there foam to get to that pointed to confirm that but they said, this morning, that that was something they wanted people to know, and, they wanted to confirm that, and sea world is also, establishing a trust in her honor to support some of the children's charities, that were close to dawn brancheau's heart, she was one of the select few trainers allowed to work with the 12,000 pound whale but the whale took her life in a bizarre accident last week when he yanked her en to the water by her pony tail and this is hard for people to accept here but many of them are telling us they at least find some comfort in knowing that she died doing what she loved to do. bill: so she was growing her hair for charity and, is that the conventional wisdom, that the whale was distracted, thought the pony tail was a fish or something else, he was playing with and that is what pulled her into the water? >> reporter: you know, we don't know what the whale was
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thinking, obviously but according to the trainers, that have worked with tillikum in the past, they say that this -- the pony tail was swinging forward and that is apparently when the whale grabbed her by the hair and yanked her into the under water tank. where she then subsequently drowned. bill: will the family make a public statement today, and as you cover that up there in chicago, what has sea world said about her funeral today. >> reporter: this morning on the telephone we asked the family that they'd be making a statement and they said they would not be doing that and you can see behind me a number of people are gathering and yesterday waited in the cold, 90 minutes to get inside the wid building to pay their respects and at the wake we are expecting a large crowd for the funeral and the burial which will be later. now, sea world, about that -- the other question you asked as far as the will, there is a lot of talk this morning, in sea world, at sea world, people are saying that the whale should be
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euthanized and others believed the whale should be led back to the sea to be free and roam the sea and sea world says that is note case and now they are keeping tillikum out of performances, but, this is a whale that has you know -- the result of 13 other whales, this whale was used for breeding as well, and 13 other whales were off spring from tillikum, and so the whale has been insured for $5 million and at this point the attraction is -- officials are saying that, that has nothing to do with their decision, but, at this point, they are leading tillikum -- leaving tillikum in the tank where he is at sea world and not part of the attraction. bill: she's covering the funeral for dawn brancheau today, a 12,000 pound animal, some say a whale inside of a whale, it was that large. thank you. here's martha. martha: president obama is speaking on education today. at the u.s. chamber of commerce, an organization the
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administration has had difficult exchanges with, since president obama took office, and we'll watch it closely, all about education, and colin powell is there as well, and if there is any news, we'll bring it right now. and nancy pelosi telling democrats to pass health care at all costs, but can congress's approval rating go any lower on this new evidence is straight ahead, americans are just fed up, with their lawmakers. >> changes at one of the nation's busiest airports what it might mean for travellers all over the country and might mean for the cost of your next flight. not cool.
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martha: pictureland -- em intents doe domain with the intention of improving the community, and in return, the feds pay you, for your property, the problem is not often, people are on the same page about how much the price tag should be and white-hot legal battles are brewing over this, who decides the so-called fair price of your property, when the government says, we're taking it? is it even close to market value? shannon bream is digging into this and joins us live from alexandria, virginia, it has been a long, expensive battle, and, even made millions of dollars on this, but i understand the landowner says when it comes to just compensation, he got ripped off, shannon? >> reporter: martha, you are exactly right, this is an empty lot but is worth tens of millions of dollars, we're in
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alexandria outside of the nation's capital and there is a battle raging here for years be a charlie huff, his family has owned the land 40 years and he says over the years he's tried to negotiate with private developers, with though government as well, to put a price tag on the land, because he's ready to move forward with it, it is under development and he says he had a deal for $48 million for the tract you see behind me and the government swooped in, the sanitation authority wants to use it for part of a water processing plant and decide take by the imminent domain and they gave him less than half of what he thought he'd get on the private market, $20 million and sounds like a good chunk of change but it was based on what he calls a fictitious appraisal. here's what he said: >> the appraiser uses other properties, okay? and on that basis, he comes to a valuation of your property, and he said, okay. a fictitious buyer and a fix tigers several would come to this number. what the hell is that, when i have real buyers out there? i mean, that is crazy stuff.
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>> reporter: apparently there is a -- quite a span between the two amounts these parties are willing to negotiate, but, the government now owns the land, they've taken it by imminent domain and gave charlie huff the $20 million and he'll keep on fighting, martha. martha: that is an uphill -- once the government has the prompt, i think your argument, your battle becomes a lot tougher, right? >> reporter: absolutely. you know, we've heard from the government on this and they say, we have negotiated off and on with the family for years and they say they did so in good faith, and they used a legitimate outside appraiser who came to the amount of $20 million. and, they say, listen, we paid that amount, it was judged fair, and, we're not going to waste taxpayer money by paying anything more than the land is actually valued at and here's the interesting twist: the landowner decided to go to court over this and challenge it and coming up in may they'll take it before a judge to decide whose numbers are correct and though the government does own the land, they are still fighting about the price tag, and, the landowner says he is not going to give up.
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martha: wow, shannon, thank you so much, shannon bream in alexandria, virginia. bill: if you are flying soon there could be a bottle neck, and, the run -- the runways in the country, starting today the main runway at j.f.k. airport is shutting down for repair work and will be closed four months and means possible big delays for travellers, in and out of the big apple, planes on the ground will wait longer for take off and in the air for landings and the runway handles 40 million passengers a year and workers are repaving and widening the runway, necessary improvements, we hear and so it can handle the bigger planes, and the project is -- will affect at least the first month of the peak travel season which starts on memorial day. even more. martha: and brand new fox opinion polls coming out, into "america's newsroom" right now and shows -- sheds light on how rough a road lawmakers may have with the american people, these are ugly numbers, folks on congressional job performance, check out the latest coming in
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from fox news opiniuz piews opi only 14% approve of the job our lawmakers are doing, down from what was dismal at 22%, at the beginning of last month. that is a few weeks ago. dipped from 22 to 14, now think about the things that are going on in that time, resurgence of the discussion about health care, really is what happened over the past few weeks, and 80% of americans now disapproving, of the job that congress is doing. bill: you think that is bad, huh? what will happen if democrats go ahead with the health care plan that many polls show american don't agree with? a political editor for the washington examiner, my guest now from washington, d.c. good morning, to you. and in the spirit of bipartisanship, lamar alexander was on last hour, the republican senator from tennessee and long presentation with president obama last week and i asked what the president should do, and, this was after a number of questions, whether or not he should chuck the bill be a put the focus on jobs and the economy and interesting reaction. roll this, and i'll ask you about it, chris.
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>> if you say, if you they're president you say i hear you, i am going to adjust where i am going we want to reduce health care costs, and i'm going to take some of your ideas, and we're going to start over, and make it possible for americans to buy health care and i need your bipartisan support, and he'd get it if he got that. bill: he'd get it, you say. >> yes, he would. bill: that is the headline from the interview, at least saying publicly give us bipartisanship we'll give you a health care bill, more than words? >> no, i think -- i'm sure he's absolutely sincere about that but that is a big "if" and now you are in a position where you have the speaker of the house and many in the administration, basically saying, we know this is going to cost us a lot of seats in the midterm elections, because this is direly unpopular legislation. but, it is so important we're going to do it anyway. so, once you reached a point of sort of political abandon like that, where you say you are willing to do whatever it takes it is hard to reel that back in, and then go to your base and liberal democrats and say, i
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know we talked about ramming it through, but now, let's talk about the lamar alexander compromise plan. that would be a very tough sell. bill: that is on the senate side and meanwhile on the house side we're trying to figure out whether or not the votes are there on the democratic side. this is the republican, paul ryan with chris wallace on sunday morning, and he says nancy pelosi's done a great job getting legislation through in the past but today the votes are not there. roll this and we'll talk about it. >> they don't have the votes from our best count and i wouldn't count her out, she's good at muscling votes, they were down 24 on cap-and-trade the night before they passed it by 8. so the speaker is very good at making deals behind closed doors and muscling votes, but, right now, they don't have the votes. bill: as you look at that landscape on the house side, just among democrats, this is, whether they're not happy with the abortion language, moderate when it comes to fiscal policy, and, there was a piece over the weekend that suggests even the guys who voted yes, the first
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time around, will vote no next time around. so, as we stand today, are there the votes in the house to get it through, chris? your view is what. >> not today. certainly, not today. but, you know, representative ryan makes a very good pointed, on cap-and-trade. the global warming taxes, speaker pelosi was down, came back, delivered the votes and on the first health care vote, in november, she was down, she came through and only carried it by two. but, she got it done. and, no one would count her out on this vote, she doesn't have it but may get it and one thing that impedes her a serious challenge for the speaker is the members of her own caucus have seen the white house and the senate choke on -- at crucial moments on this before. while nancy pelosi may be able to get the job done, i think there are a lot of house democrats who are worried about taking a substantial political risk, potential ending their careers doing something that may end up getting all bound up in the senate and may not get the
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forceful backing of the white house and that is a real concern for her. bill: political theater in a big way, too, and the president will announce a way forward on this issue on wednesday? do you have any clues what that might be in two days? >> well, basically, what we're talking about, now, you know, we've already talked about what and that was when we got the 11 page addendum to the senate bill that adds $200 billion to the costs, and changes a few things, and now we're talking about how. by what means does the administration propose to do this? does he want the house to swallow the poison pill and pass the senate bill over their own objection in the name of rung the 51 vote, sort of procedural end around through budget reconciliation or will the senate go first and pass with 51 votes, a change to their own legislation, in hopes of ep ties the house 0 come on board and now what you are talking about is a total pile-up and you talked about the runways at j.f.k. and this is worse, you have planes circling overhead
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and votes need to happen and a lot of anxiety and nobody is sure who is in the air traffic control tower. >> a total pile-up, interesting imagery, thanks, chris, from the examiner in washington. thanks. martha: we have new data coming into fox news, this morning, and it shows that most americans think the u.s. military is the strongest on the planet. no big surprise there and the problem is a majority of the people also say they do not expect the u.s. military to stay in that strong position. why? next. medicare. it doesn't cover everything.
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egypt from the sands of time, comes an 8 foot tall head, depicting the grandfather of king tut, what they are learning about this king, as well as his grand son, tut. ahead on happening now. martha: all right, we'll look forward to that, thank you and if you ask americans which country has the most military dominance overall, the answer is solidly, the u.s.a. for now. a recent "gallup poll" found that 64% of americans say the u.s. is number one, in the world militarily. but when they were asked to look ahead 20 years, the numbers almost reversed. only 36% say they think the u.s. military will still be number one, in 20 years, spider marks joins me, and good 0 see you, welcome back. >> thank you, martha, good morning. martha: good morning to you, sir. what do you make of those numbers? that is disturbing to me. >> it is disturbing. i think it really reflects
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probably three things, one is, what i would call the downward pressure to reduce spending in the government, and i think for the most part, the military acknowledges they have to participate like everybody else, and it has to be done within reason, and with some really sharp risk calculations, and number 2 is the resurgence of russia as a military power and china's growth, and north korea, and i think the third factor, is the fact that we will probably be in combat of some sort, during the next 20 years, so i think that combination would lead someone to believe, look we'll be worn out and have to reduce costs and threats are getting a little more pro nounld. martha: i wonder if you think the people are right, because, whenever you, you know, speak to members of our military or you see the incredible caliber of the fine young men and women out there fighting today in the volunteer force, and then, also, would add to that, an assessment i heard of nato forces over the weekend which was interesting,
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we talked about the fact, of all of the countries that contribute to nato, only the united states is really on the cutting edge in terms of new equipment and new ability in the changing wording. >> and -- changing world. >> you hit the nail on the head in terms of personnel but the military is about people, first and foremost and we can en chance the contribution of the individual but that is the enhancement and the equipment and the kit, the latest weapon systems and the individuals that we're bringing on board are superb and i think thrown into the call indication is the battle rhythm or the commitment, dwell time, how long do soldiers and marines and military folks have at home, to be with their families, and to enhance their skills, versus the amount of time they are deployed and over the next 20 years is a calculation how large the military is. martha: what would you say if i asked you the same question these people answered? who is number one now and who will be number one in 20 years? >> i was not one of the respondents, and, clearly the
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answer is, the u.s., has a capability that is unmatched, and the number one military in the world, to put it simply and we are extremely broad in our capabilities and deep in our leadership and the pool of leaders, is immense, and, everybody is combat hardened and the next 20 years we'll retain that position, if and you have to under like "if", if we pay attention to personnel, if we pay attention to deployment times, if we pay attention to the size of our military. we cannot keep sending back the same young and women and over the next 20 years you want the lieutenants commissioned today to be in the forces, lieutenant colonels and colonels, and, they will retain their position but have to attend to business. martha: and they deserve that, major spider marks, thank you very much, always good to have you with us. bill: we found storms in one capital city. and, brought things to a stand
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bill: you think you have a rough commute, incredible pictures, into "america's newsroom." roll this and watch. bill: somewhere in there, there is a train -- there it is, heavy rain flooding out buenos aires, a week ago bringing transportation to a stand still and it is remarkable the guy in the yellow jacket in the middle of the screen was actually there to withstand the waves. he's still standing, the train reached its destination but, it
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knocked out power to 50,000 people, and the city is back to normal, a couple days later and that guy... martha: we have a special treat now, for all the parent and all the grandparents out there. this is -- a book i'll tell you about you want to check out and can be appreciated by families of all religions and if you are a parents or a grandparent, you know tv and internet and cell phones, just constantly inundate our children and distract them from so much of what is good in life and one author is encouraging parents to teach children how to pray and the gooit great book is called "this little prayer of mine" and is to help children find spirituality, regardless of what their religions and i'm glad have the author of this book and "the travel guide to heaven" and and "the prayer good always says yes to" thanks for being here. and let's address technology first and you are a parent and want your children to pray and have a connection with god, and
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most of what they have a connection to, is facebook. >> it's true, i walked into a room, saw ten kids and each one of them is on their own cell phone or their own videogame, and are all together but they are all alone and technology is a great blessing but is also a great creator of isolation and is a big challenge to us, and, to break out of the isolation because it affects in a negative way relationships not only with their friends, and with their parents and their families, but their relationship with god which is the most important relationship. martha: this little prayer of mine, children are reading it and how does the book open the conversation between parents and kids? >> that is exactly what -- prayer is conversation with god. and so all the book tries to do is show prayer is very very, simple and is a simple as speaking to each other an pat boone, a famous entertainer and a good friend of mine endorsed the book and said prayer should be as natural as breathing. as natural as eating and drinking and breathing and so that is the point of the book,
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to really simplify things, and to show that it is the simplest thing in the world. martha: should you pray out loud with your kids during the day? like, god will help... whatever, to integrate that feeling, into their conversation, so they look at it en a conversational way. >> the reason why kids don't pray much today is because their parents don't pray enough and that is the whole reason and so, yes, any chance you get to show your child that praying is a natural thing and an easy thing, whether praying out loud, or reading the bible with them or just, just reading the book to them, for example. i think would be helpful. martha: and now, if i'm being selfish god by asking for too much i'd like to tell you thank you for a bunch of other stuff, and you are teaching them -- kids always pray for things, let the u.s. hockey team win, please let this or that happen and how do you teach them to pray for strength? >> praying for things is okay, you can pray for things but you also have to be grateful for things and i'm sure you found in your own life the attitude and gratitude is very, very
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important. and, so, it is not just about -- sometimes we have a tendency to view god as if he's a supermarket clerk and the world is one big walmart and we want this, that and the other thing and want it now and that kind of consumer mentality is a bit too much here, and yes, you should teach your kids that prayer, is a conversation with god and all kinds of conversations and one of them is to thank god, one of them is to be sorry for doing things that, you have done wrong. martha: before i let you go the biggest question my kids say is why does god let something like cancer happen. >> well, that is a big -- >> sad stuff, these things. >> god has not created a world of robots, he created free will and we have a choice to do things and what prayer does is help us get through the problems and this is the most important thing for people to understand, the difference en between believers and nonbelievers isn't believers suffer less but suffer with hope and hope is a powerful thing and gets you through everything, and, that is what, when you teach a child to pray, you are teaching them when the
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suffering does come and adversity comes you are guaranteeing they'll be able to get through the problems with their sanity and peace of mind and faith intact. martha: no matter what your religion. martha: you can find strength in the bashing, called "this little prayer of mine" like "this little light of mine" one of my favorite songs, thanks for this, it is really special. bill: will democrats go through the nuclear option on health care? one man could have a major impacts on the process and he's not even an elected member of congress. how does that work? find out who he is, in minutes. walmart's $10 90-day generic prescriptions...
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