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that little girl that is all the time we have left. greta is next. we'll see you tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. >> greta: tonight, will she walk? in less than 11 hours casey anthony could be walking out of jail. she was in the convicted of murder. the jury unanimous lay greed the state did not prove beyond a reasonable -- doubt that casey murdered her daughter. but the jury did unanimously agree she lied to the police and they convicted her for misdemeanors. early tomorrow morning she will be sentenced for those four crimes. her sentence could be time served. she would caulk out the front door after spending thee -- she could walk out of front door after spending three years in jail. where are her parents right now? joining us is mark lippman the attorney for george, cindy and lee anthony. i know you are not going to tell me specifically where they are for security reasons.
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i'm curious, how they are doing tonight? >> they are doing fine. they are assimilating and letting this sink in the fact that this chapter in their life is over and that they will not have to face any more depositions, any more testimony, being recalled and recalled in this case. all that is over. and tomorrow we'll see what the day brings. >> greta: do you expect them to go to court tomorrow? >> i can discuss that, because of security reasons. you can imagine they've been there everyday since the trial began, so. >> greta: what do you advise your clients at this point? your clients are obviously not the defendants. but they've gone through a horrible situation with their child and of course with their grandchild. how do you advise them to get their lives back in order? >> first, we need to see what happens tomorrow. see what casey chooses to do.
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certainly, there's lots of decisions that need to be may. neither one or any them can go back to their mundane lies of the day-to-day grind. cindy can't go back to being a nurse, george can't go back to security law enforcement, this case has destroyed their lies. you can imagine they have to start out all over again and figure out where they are going to go. >> greta: in your prior life you were a prosecutor. she has been convicted of four misdemeanors. detained since august 2008. does that automatically get set off any sentence she receives tomorrow? and number two, any mandatory parole so you would expect she would immediately go out tomorrow even if she got the maximum? >> in the state of florida, you get five days for every month you serve, you only do
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85% of your time if you do the math we figured she will get 240 days credit time served. if she were given -- if she served the full four years, obviously she hasn't served that yet, i imagine if the judge were to max her she would get a couple months then that's it. for her safety, it is horrible to say, but i could see the judge wanting to keep her in jail for a variety of different reasons. who knows what he's gonna do tomorrow. >> greta: in terms of her walking out. it is obvious to all of us she has leveled some incredible accusations against her father and her brother. i know that george, her father has denied it. she doesn't have any money. does the state give you anything as you walk out the door? do they give you bus fare? >> i do think they give you bus fare. once the judge sentences her, they will take her back to the jail, process her, give her
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back her clothes she was booked in. she has articles of clothing. for security purposes i've heard they won't release her directly from the jail. they will take her to some location i imagine somebody's office or home. and we'll go from there. mr. mason has said she wasn't inclined to go back to the parents' house. certainly -- mr. baez is out of stay, he may be back by now. >> greta: are the parents willing to have her come back home? >> unfortunately, that is attorney/client privilege. whatever my clients tell me, i can't say otherwise i could lose my license. >> greta: you can misinterpret things by looking from a distance. there's been a lot of talk about the fact that as soon as the verdict was read that george and cindy anthony left the courtroom. should we read anything into that?
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any reason they left the courtroom abruptly? maybe it wasn't bankruptly explain it. >> if you look back a couple -- a couple seconds earlier, the court administrator was kind you can see her leaning over and the deputies leaning over saying, probably now would be a good time to leave. for security purposes we are going to take the advice of law enforcement and takeoff when they tell us to. >> greta: by the way, how do they feel about this verdict? i imagine it is difficult, it is their ground child, their daughter and a horrible trial many can you tell us -- how they feel about this? >> unfortunately, as their attorney, i feel -- i can't say anything what i personally think, anything i may say may come back as the representation of what they think. while my by may know what i think, nobody else will ever know what i think because that's the nature of my
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representation. >> greta: in this business of high profile trials, all of a sudden deals come flying in. have they been offered book deals, publicity, as their lawyer are you fielding sufficient like that? >> unfortunately, i can discuss those things either. -- we take the attorney/client privilege serious. >> greta: mark, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> greta: alternate juror 14 is talking. what dos -- what does he think of the verdict? the 12 jurors didn't want to talk to the media. griff jenkins caught up with alternate juror 14. >> reporter: we are in st. petersburg, after seven weeks of being sequestered you wake up in your own bed, what is your reaction to see the
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fallout in this case? >> really shocked. last night after the news, my wife and i were in the bedroom and watching the tv and how the negativity that i saw from the public, oh my gosh, bizarre. during the seven weeks, the sequestered -- when we were sequestered, we got no news especially of the trial. the news we got was either from three days to a week old. and they took our tv's out at the end, because of any kind of coverage, commercials that could be referencing the case. so we saw nothing i am for me it was -- so we saw nothing. for me it was bizarre for the negativity. and how the public is reacting to this. i didn't understand the sensation -- i don't
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understand the sensationalism of this case. unfortunately, it was a murder case with a 2-year-old little girl dying. again, that happens around the country. i really didn't understand the sensationalism of this case. i must have been living under a rock. i knew very little of what this case was about. when they were asking me, when i was becoming a juror. what do you know? i do recall that a little girl went missing. didn't think anything else of it until december when caylee's body was found. i had very little knowledge of the case. when we were gone for all this time, had no knowledge of the case. i was shocked by the public's reaction. >> reporter: i want to get into the case. you ed this little girl, what
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do you think -- you mentioned this little girl. what do you think happened? after the evidence you have seen how do you think caylee died? >> that would be speculation on my part. i think there was a horrific accident that happened. that i think the anthonys, there's a lot more to say about what actually happened to caylee. but again, we'll talk about the case, they couldn't prove a murder charge. i think it was an accident. but what i've been told from the news panels, i'm definitely in the minority and i have it wrong. >> reporter: it is true, the local papers here point to some polls that suggest overwhelmingly, the folks that were watching and across the nation thought she was guilty of more than perjury. innocent of first degree murder, that shocks you? >> well, you gotta remember it
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is reasonable doubt. the evidence proved we had a reasonable doubt for this case. and the burden of proof is so high on the reasonable doubt. judge perry, went really into what the law says or what you had to prove for reasonable doubt. if you have the slightest reservation, you have to vote not guilty. i wasn't part of the deliberations. so i don't know what happened within the deliberations. for me, i don't think the prosecution met their burden of proof in the case. >> reporter: had you been in the deliberation, would you have come to the same conclusion that this jury did? >> yes, i would have. for three reasons. number one, the evidence didn't support a murder charge i am or the manslaughter charge. for me --. or the manslaughter charge.
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for me it wind there. . secondly, they didn't prove motive. why would a good mother who loved her daughter would all of a sudden juan day kill her? they tried to show motive at the end that -- that casey was a party girl. i didn't buy that because she had a good support system with her mom and dad willing to watch caylee. and the grandparents loved caylee. and the third thing is, no one could show how caylee died thatch was a huge factor of why -- died. i think that was a huge factor. for those reasons i agree with my fellow jurors. >> reporter: you mentioned the anthonys and their -- did you not find this is a highly dysfunctional family? >> i want to be careful, i don't want to get myself in trouble. i definitely felt they were dysfunctional.
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what degree that was, i don't know. you could tell that there is something definitely wrong within this family unit. from the testimony, especially from both cindy and george, stories had changed. both the prosecution and the defense was great in impeaching both george and cindy at one time. i felt sorry for lee for all this. he came across as the one member of the family that you could believe in. gave compelling evidence -- compelling testimony. >> reporter: take me inside the case. was there one defining moment where you -- where it really an impact on your thinking on the case as an alternate juror, were you going to draw about that moment or moments in your determining? >> i think it was at the end
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of the case. i kept an open mind, completely from day one to the very end day. and what really hit home for me is when mr. mason was explaining the burden of proof on the prosecution. from she might have didn't it or she did it. when it went through those different steps, excusing, plaining what is reasonable doubt, it was at that point, i was -- my gut reaction was they had not met their burden of proof. >> reporter: your doubt was more that it was murder rather than this tragic accident? perhaps the prosecution made their flaw by pushing on the murder rather than a mother who clearly may have mishandled a tragic accident?
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>> the mother mishandled something. what that is, we don't know. we're never going to know. only casey knows at this point. something horrific did happen. you have the death of a beautiful little 2-year-old. again, since they couldn't prove the murder within a reasonable doubt that a murder had taken place the jury had -- the way they voted, i had to agree with. >> reporter: let's talk about casey's lying, what did you make of that? pretty apparent. >> definitely. the lying. what you have to remember with casey these lies didn't start 31 days prior to when they speculate when caylee died al she was arrested and afterwards. she had been lying for up to two years with the -- i'll
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quote mr. baez's the imaginary friends, the nanny many those lies, she had been living these lies for a long time. >> greta: as you just heard russell was an alternate juror not one of the 12 that found casey not guilty. but he agreed with the not guilty verdict because the prosecutors could not prove beyond a reason an able -- reason able doubt to him how caylee died. could the police investigation had been better? joining us is mark fuhrman. mark listening to that thoughtful man how he looked at the evidence it occur today me, he said what bettered him they couldn't determine cause of death. the child disappeared june 16th. the remains were found december 8th or so. in august there was a call to the police. if the crime scene had been discovered then, not compromised, with all the
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remains in better tact, not subject to the elements, that this might be a different case. they probably could have proved whether it was a murder or not, do you agree? >> possibly. the body had been at that location for up to 50 days in advanced decomposition before it arrived at that location. remember mr. kronk saw something white, which turned out to be a skull in december. but he saw something white then. i kind of wonder. you know, without that argument, you listen to this alternate juror, half what i hear him saying came from mr. baez's opening or closing. i never saw anything in evidence. anything in evidence about a horrific accident. did i miss something? >> greta: no. because the defense doesn't have to prove anything, what the defense has to do is poke holes in. the prosecution's own expert said they could not deny it
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was an accident. i think shifting the burden. they were poking the holes. the prosecution necessarily then couldn't meet its burden of proof. >> i agree with poking the holes. this juror said a couple of things many on your interview last night, i read the transcript. when it came down to mr. baez showing how the anthony family got rid of their pets, he made it clear, a conclusion in quotes, i think this is how they got rid of caylee's body. so, he's not only speculating. he thinks, absent of any evidence, except for how somebody buries a pet. it goes farther. this man believes that just one hair with a decomposing band on it, forget the decomposing band, a hair of a child in the trunk is no big deal. i don't care if it is one hair
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or a million hairs. >> greta: i disagree with you on the speculation. i think asking the jury to speculate on the father molesting casey, there was no evidence there. what was different about the pet, is that you can draw a reasonable for instance. the rules of evidence is draw a reasonable infer friends if the presenting. the casey molesting thing was -- there was nothing to support that. that was asking for speculation that was different. >> not only speculation but he says they. nothing introduced into evidence except for baez's opening statement about casey having help getting rid of caylee's body. this juror, if he is indicative of the of that decided this case, they are intertwining evidence and experts that come up and say this fbi expert doesn't know
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what he's talking about. although i don't have as much experience. he doesn't know what he's talking about many they pick and choose who they like or what evidence cancels out the other. that's ridiculous! this alternate said he doesn't believe that anybody produced any evidence that he thinks that caylee was ever in casey anthony's trunk. are you serious? how did they -- >> greta: i gotta go mark. i don't agree with you i'm respect tiff of -- i'm very respective of jurors. any way, you and i will argue about this another day, all right. straight ahead. hear from a former boyfriend a former friend of casey anthony he tells us what casey was like around caylee. was caylee happy? that's next.
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>> greta: what was casey anthony like as a mother? we heard a lot of stories from the prosecution and defense. our next guest is a former friend and knew caylee. he was casey's ex-boyfriend's roommate and a witness for the prosecutor. nice to see you children. >> nice to see you again. >> greta: clint in the month of june 2008, june 16th, that's when caylee her accident, murdered, whatever. that's when we focus on casey's behavior. when you saw her, did she do anything to suggest she cared about her daughter missing or that her daughter was missing or murdered or anything? >> like i testified in the
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trial, she showed no signs to any of us that caylee was missing. we had no idea. the first thing that tony said to me whenever i called, once i found out that caylee was missing was, hey i don't care about what happened between us but caylee has been missing for thirty days. i said she's been missing and nobody knew? he was like yeah, nobody knew she was missing. that was the first of it. >> greta: prior to that, when you saw her interacting with caylee she appeared to be an attentive mother, is that right? >> yes, very attentive. she never raised her voice. i never saw her strike caylee. she was a good mom to her. she spent time with her. i sat and watched her read off flash cards and caylee read
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them back. casey seemed like a good mother. >> greta: i struggle with this, how can a mother be out partying and getting a tattoo and drinking and staying with her boyfriend and everything, at best her child was missing, probably murdered, do you sort of looking back, how do you explain her behavior during that window of time? >> i can't explain why she was. only casey can explain why she was acting the way she was acting during the time caylee was missing. i can explain that. >> greta: did she seem like a selfish person who just wanted to party and do what she wanted to do? that's the view i have from the outside. >> well, she didn't seem like that to us then. but that was also at the time where we didn't know she was lying to us about everything. we didn't know she was lying about her job or going back-to-school or where caylee was. we didn't see any red flags or
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anything. >> greta: she a good liar? >> apparently so. she had me fooled and i'm a pretty good judge of character. for her to fool me and tony and all of our group of friends like that, that's something to be said right there. >> greta: do you know what her relationship with her parents was like? >> no. we rarely talked about cindy and george with casey. you have to remember, we were all just getting to know caylee and casey. it was only two months when we met casey that all of this happened. we didn't really hear much about cindy and george or at least i didn't. i don't know about tony. i can't speak for tony. i didn't really know much about the relationship between casey and cindy and george.
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>> greta: tell when caylee's law what is that? >> something i found out about on facebook today when i woke up. caylee's law would make it a felony to not report your child missing after 10 days. the best thing would be a child under 10 to make it a felony to not report them missing after 48 hours. we see in this case, casey is going to get off. there is no accountable. i think with passing caylee's law we can make sure this isn't going to happen in the future. >> greta: i'm not the jury, i'm curious, you think she murdered caylee? >> i have my personal feelings about it. but it really didn't matter what the focus now -- get are they good feelings or bad
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feelings? >> of course they are bad feelings. going back to what we talked about three years ago greta. it is a terrible situation. i don't think justice was served. if that answers your question. >> greta: indeed it does. clint, thank you. thanks to bringing attention to caylee's law >> in ten hours, casey anthony could be walking out of jail. it depends on what the judge says hours from now. casey's letters from behind bars are raising new concerns. what did she write in those letters? our legal panel is back and that's next. >> defense doesn't have to prove anything in a criminal trial. but jose baez made a lot of wild accusations and promises in his opening statement and never presented evidence to back some of them. you are going to hear prosecutor jeff ashton about that in just minutes. stay tuned. ananananannouncer ] the network.
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>> greta: letters casey anthony wrote behind bars are raising eyebrows. she writes about having more children. did you hear that? more children. she writes about wanting to have more children. between the years 2008, 2009 she wrote more than 50 letters to a fellow female inmate many she writes let's make a deal, let's get pregnant together. if it's really possible to plan it. i thought about adopting which sounds weird saying it, but there are so many children that are is of to be loved. what is next for casey? joining us diana tennis, jim hammer and ted williams. diana, your thought about these letters and their content? >> they seem naive. they seemed youthful very cook
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eyed optimist. they -- cook eyed optimist. they seemed determined they didn't appear to be sinister or evil. that wasn't my take. they seemed like age-appropriate imagineary friend kind of young woman yarn spinning. i don't know. >> greta: i'm horrified. >> were you? >> greta: yeah. i was horrified by the content. at best, she had a missing child she didn't report, at best. ted? >> let's be very candid. >> greta: i like when you are candy. i hate when you come here and lie. >> the bottom line is, casey is no dummy casey knew she was facing charges for actually killing a child. what better defense if these letters are admissible is to manufacture, present these letters showing she is a will having person who loved children. >> greta: bernie, your turn.
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>> i'm somewhere in between diana and whatever hammer has to say, i'll agree with that she is grandiose. she has no connection to reality. her thought process is so fragmented. you are charged with murder. what adoption agency smoking crack would let her adopt? >> greta: i would prefer it more if she said i miss my daughter rather than be out there trolling for more. jim are you horrified with me or are you with the rest of this group? >> i could run for office and pass a law she could never have children again. >> greta: i don't think you can do that. >> it is more than . >> you have nail, it is evil. we tacked about this last -- it is more than juvenile, it is evil. we talked about this last
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night. to lead them on wild goose chases while your baby is dead is evil. [ talking over each other ] >> anyone who can mislead police while their baby is dead is evil, i'm sorry. >> greta: if she gets out tomorrow, does she go home? >> no don't think. either that was the biggest bamboozle and the and the nips have always been behind her and we've all been duped, i don't think that's the case. or no, she doesn't go home she goes to hollywood. i think she guess to hollywood. like it or not. i -- i think she goes to hollywood. like it or not. >> greta: bernie, she doesn't have a dime, she has nothing. >> interesting question, she's
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going home, where is home? she accused her father of molesting her. [ talking over each other ] >> i'm with diana, casey anthony is going to crash and burn hard some place. >> greta: where does she go ted? >> i don't think she goes to hollywood. >> greta: are you being candid? >> she is not going to be able to make commercials -- >> greta: i'm talking about tomorrow night. i'm not talk -- [ talking over each other ] >> there's still a few friends out there and she will probably head to one of their houses. she won't go to her mother or father. >> one of the morning shows will offer her $10,000, she will book her for a couple nights at the hotel, do her tv show and be alone which is the way she deserves to be after she reacted when her kid was kill. >> greta: don't go away the
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accusations against george anthony were flying in the courtroom. where was the defense team's evidence to back them up? hear from prosecutor jeff ashton and our legal panel is next. is casey getting out of jail in 9 1/2 hours? we'll have a live report, straight ahead. ill react when someone changes lanes without warning? or when you're distracted? when you're falling aeep at the wheel? do you know how you'll react? lexus can now precisely test the most unpredictable variable in a car -- the driver. when you pursue perfection, you don't just engineer the world's most advanced driving simulator. you engineer amazing. ♪
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shutdown opening for the first time in more than a week. the largest wildfire in new mexico's history putting a large number of experiments on hold. crews still battling the flame in the remote areas. i'm ainsley earhardt. we return to on the record with greta. thanks for watching. >> greta: casey's defense team made a lot of serious accusations. what did the prosecution think of that? today matt lauer asked jeff ashton. >> in his opening statements he made dramatic accusations saying this was an accidental death that caylee died in the pool, george anthony helped cover it up, george molested case a young age. he then presented not one shred of evidence to back up those claims. did he act ethically? >> i think he -- i don't want
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to say am i don't know what he expected to be able to prove at trial. >> should the judge have allowed it to happen that way? an? >> no. for all -- we know casey's testimony was par of the plan and she changed her mind. we don't know. -- those communications are private between them. i assume he said that because he believed that he could prove it. then something changed and it wasn't -- >> greta: our legal panel is back. jim, i think jeff ashton is a gentleman, gracious. if write in his shoes i would have have a blistering instruction read to the jury about how this was almost -- this was a myth. and the jury should disregard it. i would have at least done that. >> you can. you talked about during the trial you thought mistakes made by the judge in rulings. it is very dangerous as a prosecutor to comment on the defense not doing something at
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trial. technically, you can say they promised didn't deliver. having said that, if the verdict had been different, we would have been saying baez was the worst lawyer in history. bernie would have had him disbarred. because it worked out well we are zieger records. >> good for jeff ashton. what a classy guy all the way through. this is the moment when your blood is still boiling. his body is going through a revolution from this verdict. he stood tall and say the classy thing, saying i'm going to give him the been fit of the doubt. and his evidence probably -- i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. and his evidence probably changed. >> greta: baez said nice things about ashton, ashton about baez. maybe we are meaner. we've never said nice things about each other. >> let me be candid. >> i won't be candid.
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[ talking over each other ] >> the fact about it is, jeff ashton was professional and took the high road. >> greta: baez too. >> i only have one problem with ashton, when baez was doing his closing, ashton was laughing. i think that may have caused him some problems with the jury. because it may have led the jury to believe, hey ashton thinks we already are in his pocket that could have created a problem for him. i have a problem with him on that. >> greta: i think smirking during the trial is bad, stupid and i think it hurt him. diane that, is this jeff ashton usual -- is he all like this? >> i feel like i've come full circle and i've come to my own personal closure in my relationship with jeff ashton. a decade ago we were in a death penalty case. i was heated. i got yelled at my the judge
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in front of the jury for being mean to ashton. after the jury came back with a life recommendation he was snarky to the media. i've had a weird thing with ashton ever since. i feel like he may or may not know it, i've come to peace with ashton during this trial. i've had nothing but respect for him. he's done a brilliant job. this morning i thought he took the high road when it would have been easy not to, on national tv after a huge loss after putting his heart and soul into it. i feel really good about it. jeff and you are in a good place now and i'm good with it. >> greta: [ unintelligible ] [ talking over each other ] >> i miss the days of backbiting and snide remarks. >> greta: do you know what he is going to do? he's going to retire. i don't know if that is coincidental. >> no, what a swan song.
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>> no. this was planned before this. it was kind of ironic that it came out yesterday am i wish it hadn't. it makes it look like this had something to do with it. believe this was well in the works before this trial. he did a fantastic job. he can do whatever he wants to. he did a great job. >> they lost the case, it is nothing worse than putting your heart in a case for a couple of years and trying it. good prosecutors, prosecute tough cases. this was a tough case. six month dead body. i was tough going in. we thought there would be a conviction. my hat is off to him. >> greta: i think there would have been a conviction had they discovered the remains in august when the meter reader first called. there would have been a different crime scene. >> absolutely. there you may have had
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something that forensics and more physical evidence that they could have hung their hat on. that was bad. i agree. >> greta: prosecutors if the cause of death was mur, i think the prosecutors at that point were sabotaged by the investigation. i'm taking the last word on that, thank you all. >> your favorite website, easier to use and just one scan away. check out the barcode on the bottom of your screen now. all you need is your smartphone and a barcode reading app. get close to the television, open the app and scan the barcode with your cell's camera. check it out, be part of the conversation here at on the record. >> straight ahead, it happens in less than 10 hours. casey anthony was found guilty of four misdemeanors. is judge perry going to give her more time or let her go?
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>> greta: casey anthony will be sentenced in about nine hours from now. the jury convicted casey yesterday on four misdemeanor counts of lying to investigators. will judge perry let her walk or will he throw the book at her? holly bristow joins us. what is the conventional wisdom among the lawyers? >> i think everybody is trying to look into their crystal balls and make a prediction. bottom line only the judge knows what is going to happen. she could get time served and walk out the front door tomorrow. they could take her back to jail, process her and let her out later in the day everyone the judge could decide, your time served counts for x
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amount of days and you still have a few more months. it is the million dollar question. everybody is dying to see what is going to happen tomorrow. >> greta: i realize it is 11:00 eastern in orlando is it quiet outside the courthouse? has everything gone away now? >> everything has pretty much gone away. i went to dinner with friends tonight there want a person i passed on the street that didn't ask what is going to happen tomorrow? can you believe in verdict? it is all anybody is talking around orlando. >> greta: any information what jeff rash ton is going to do? >> -- what jeff ashton is going to do? >> at this point it is unclear if he's going to be back here nor sentencing tomorrow. we know for sure he's reretiring. i heard from sores when it looked -- like this case was going to trail in '09 he was looking to retire and was
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going to push retirement. who knows if he is going to full retirement or private practice. >> greta: book deals offered to anybody on the prosecution, defense, defendant, jurors, you heard anything about that? >> i do know that jose baez has hired a big time agent out of new york. he was on a news program tonight. i've heard many of some deals being made many i'm not sure if one was made for that interview. there are rumors swirling that casey would get a high dollar for her first interview. >> greta: that will be interesting to see if that happens. i wonder if she poison for most people in terms -- news organizations don't, in terms of the entertainment. entertainment networks, that she is poison. >> i have an issue any time anybody pays for an interview. this is one of those businesses it is very competitive. you work sources, make contacts, get people to trust
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you and you work those. should get a big story. throughout story, it has been an eye opening experience. people have paid for interviews. it is going to be interesting to see what does happen. ultimately, we all want to hear her story. we all want to hear what she has to say. it going to be a matter of who decides to bite the bullet and pay her for an interview. >> greta: tomorrow she may address the court at sentencing, maybe not. but i'm sure everyone will be watching. >> imagine being taken from your family and holed up in a hotel room for more than a month with no control over your own life. that's how it was for the jurors. what did they do? did they get along? get a firsthand account, next. [ male announcer ] the network --
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what was it like to be a juror on the casey anthony murder trial? they were sequestered, forced to live in orlando, florida hotel nearly seven weeks. an alternate juror tells us the days were truck toured but weekends weren't so bad. >> what was it like being sequestered? share for us what that experience was? incredible? >> it was incredible. here you are with 17 people you don't know. and amazing how well that, you know, 17 got along of we
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commented about that. now, how well we did together. but you know days started they got us up at 6:00 in the morning, gave us breakfast, took us to the court house by 8:00. we heard testimony all day. and got out at 5:00 got back to the hotel. 6:00, 6 thirts, tired. and tv was limited. but most of us just went to bed or relaxed in rooms, saturday was fun, they had -- orange county sheriff's department had different activities for to us do which was great. then we, you know, eight, nine of us had saturday nights. sunday allowed visitation one day per week, families were allowed to come from 2:00 to 11:00. and if you did have family there, you can