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>> nice to be with you. bill: you're on this weekend what "time"? >> 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. with gregg jarrett. bill: martha back on monday. turkey time real soon. see you later. >> bye. jenna: bill hemmer didn't mean us when he said turkey time, did he? that was reference to thanksgiving. jon: i think so. jenna: we'll have to talk to bill hemmer. hello, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. your friday continues here in the fox newsroom. "happening now", the house ready to vote on a balanced budget amendment as the super-committee struggles to come up with a deal that would reduce our nation's debt. jenna: that is no easy issue. the debt is now $15 trillion. the deadline for lawmakers is five days away. they're planning as we understand, to work through the weekend. they will have to. if no deal is reached, automatic spending cuts take
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effect in 2013. jon: still aways away from that actual deadline. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live for us on capitol hill. what is the latest move and the latest committee, jon? >> reporter: moments ago, chris van hollen, democrat from maryland, who is a super-committee member, said as you get near the midnight hour tensions go up. there is a great deal of tension on capitol hill. late last night after a 2:00 1/2 hour bipartisan meeting that produced no results we caught up with massachusetts senator john kerry. take a listen to his tone. >> we're going to keep working. i'll talk and work till, you know, the last dog dies as they say. >> reporter: now today we know that super-committee republicans have scheduled two meetings. presumably democrats will be doing similar. there may be a little bit of back and forth from republicans to democrats and vice versa but there have
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been many, many meetings day and night in recent days and no breakthrough so far, jon. jon: now the axe that has been hanging over this committee if they can't come to an agreement you get all these serious cuts that are supposed to kick in. now we're hearing there is all this talk about getting out of those triggers. >> well, that's right. senator pat toomey, republican of pennsylvania, floated that idea last night saying in an interview, quote, i think we would then have a very concerted effort to reconfigure the cuts. well, chris van hollen was asked about that moments ago. he said that is trying to reengineer an agreement that had already been reached. we asked wisconsin republican ron johnson, a senator, about that. take a listen. >> one of the reasons i voted against this debt ceiling agreement i saw meaningless it really was going to be because the sequestration, the cuts weren't even going to occur until january 2013 and one congress can't bind the hands after future congress. i just didn't see it as a
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serious attempt. >> reporter: so the question is, these triggers that have been hanging over the super-committee, whether people think they are real or not. clearly senator johnson doesn't think so. jon? jon: there still has been a lot of arguing about the balanced budget amendment push. what's happening with that right now? >> reporter: they're talking about it on the house floor right now. conservatives, blue dog democrats have in favor after balanced budget amendment especially when you consider we have 15 trillion dollar and growing debt it. will be a tough vote. you need 2/3 support in the house. it is not expected to pass in the senate but still the house will give it a shot today. they will vote today. they hope if they can pass the house that will press the senate to do similar in the united states senate, jon. jon: mike emanuel, our chief congressional correspondent on the hill right now. thanks, mike. jenna: we'll continue to monitor all the information out of d.c. in the meantime new reports this hour more alleged victims are coming forward in the shocking sex abuse scandal in penn state.
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multiple victims at the hands of former coach jerry sandusky are reportedly lawyering up and so is the university by the way, anticipating years of legal battles. many are expecting those alleged victims to file civil lawsuits against penn state. some have even been calling for the end of penn state's football program but folks in charge say there is no way that will happen. a host of different reports. we're trying to sort through those for you. meanwhile after a stinging child section abuse scandal broke at penn state we have another possible scandal with new information at syracuse university. police are now investigating assistant basketball coach bernie fine. there are allegations he molested a team ball ball for more than a dozen years. eric shawn is live in syracuse, new york, with more on this. >> reporter: jenna, another coach accused. bernie fine has been an institution and legend here at syracuse university. been assistant coach, associate head coach also
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for 35 years and now he is accused of sexually molesting a former ball boy who was on the syracuse university basketball team. fine has been put on administrative leave. the syracuse police department reopening this investigation that, jenna, dates back about 30 years. fine's accuser is now 39-year-old bobby davis. davis says that he was sexually abused by fine back in the 1980s and 1990s at his home where he lived. on the road where he says he stayed in hotel rooms with fine as well as on campus. and now, davis's brother has also come forward with similar claims against fine. davis told espn that he came forward now because of the penn state scandal. >> for a long time i've had no self-confidence, no self-esteem. i was very weak person for a long time in my life. it took me a long time to come out and say something.
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you know, and i think my conscience hitting me and hitting me. i kept thinking about if he is doing to little kids, i have to say something. i can't live my whole life knowing it is going on, what is going on there if i never said anything. and he is still doing it. >> reporter: davis reportedly has come forward before. back in 2002, telling local paper here similar allegations. they decided not to publish that. in 2005 there was an investigation by the university, an investigation that lasted for four months. the university says though there was no evidence of this. the charges were unfounded and that witnesses would not back up davis's claim. the police department reportedly not pursuing it because of statute of limitations had expired but someone today who is strongly defending fine is legendary head coach of syracuse. he is jim boeheim. boehim telling espn that davis, who he knows by the way, is lying, a thousand lies he says. boehim issued following statement which he says,
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quote, this matter was fully investigated by the university in 2005. it was determined that the allegations were unfounded. i have known bernie fine for more than 40 years. i have never seen or witnessed anything to suggest he would be involved in any of the alleged activities. this morning the chancellor of syracuse university issued an e-mail to the campus saying that university officials should not turn a blind eye to these accusations but says there should not be an unfair rush to judgment. jenna, back to you. >> we'll keep that in mind and continue to sort through the information. thank you very much, eric shawn at syracuse today. jon: a brand new poll just out on the race for the 2012 republican nomination and the battle for iowa specifically. the new poll shows herman cain at the front of the
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back with ron paul rising into second place. mitt romney in third and interestingly, no real sign of newt gingrich's surge at least nationally. let's get explanations from michael barone. he is senior political analyst for the "washington examiner" and a fox news contributor. a guy that knows numbers very well. does this surprise you? newt has been surging nationally but don't see it in the iowa poll. why not, michael? >> gingrich has been spending a lot of time in iowa. he has been campaigning in unusual ways and some ways effectively using new media. reaching out to people through the internet. i think the interesting thing in that poll is not necessarily newt's performance or herman cain's. it was taken over almost a two-week period, november 1st through the 13th. but the fact that it confirms ron paul seems to have moved up in iowa from about 10% the vote in
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previous surveys to around 20% of the vote in multiple surveys. so this is, this is confirmation that there seems, there is something going on for ron paul out there in iowa which has put him in contention for the lead in a multicandidate race. >> but you also point out that it is pretty hard to pin down who is going to actually be voting in the iowa caucuses? >> that's right. iowa polling is particularly dicey because you're trying to isolate about 100,000 people who typically participate in these iowa precinct caucuses in a state of three million people. it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. you can ask voters whether they previously participated in the caucuses? how strongly they intend to do so but the fact is memory is often faulty on questions like that. people tend to over, are more likely to say they attended than they didn't
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and stated intentions are steams falling through. you know, turns out they want to go to wal-mart that night rather than the caucus. so it is unclear who exactly is going to vote. so i think there is a large element of uncertainty here. i wouldn't focus too much on particular percentages but more than the magnitude of support that seems to show up not just in one but in multiple polls because you need some confirmation on this. jon: quickly on herman cain, still number one there at least in this poll despite the problems he has had of late. >> the poll was taken over the first two weeks of this month of the in the first week we saw herman cain riding pretty high in polls around the country, nationally and in particularly primary states. i think we can take this as reflecting that and the travails of the cain campaign over the last week or so suggest to me that if cain had that kind of support november 1 through 13, he will probably not going to stain it. jon: michael barone from the
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"washington examiner". thank you. >> thank you. jenna: a whole new look at a hollywood mystery. 30 years after the strange death of natalie wood, los angeles police are reopening the case. geraldo rivera is going to join us. he has a special perspective on this whole ordeal. jon: that is really interesting. two years after that sweat lodge ceremony turned deadly in arizona, the self-help guru convicted in that case is about to hear his sentence. jenna: plus our nation's debt more than $15 trillion. a super-committee is running out of time how to make the cuts that are needed. how hard is it really to trim 1.2 trillion dollars over 10 years, jon? jon: i could do it. i'm sure i could do it. jenna: i think our viewers could as well. we'll look at some ideas how to achieve that next. [ courier ] the amazing story of whether bovine heart tissue
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several different types of cancer. colon cancer being one of them. several times of tumors. the thinking behind it could eventually help those with breast cancer. for patients that have run out of options there was some hope using avastin. the fda ruled that avastin should no longer be used in breast cancer patients because the fda says there is no prove it extends lives and it may have dangerous side-effects. we'll keep you posted on the news. avastin, use of it for breast cancer revoked. for other cancers can still be used. jon: this breaking news. two years after that arizona sweat lodge ceremony turned deadly, the self-help guru convicted of negligent homicide in the case is about to learn his sentence. harris faulkner watching it from the breaking news desk. >> reporter: jon, there is something to watch live right now. james arthur ray about to hear what the judge will choose for his pun fishment.
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we're looking live in the courtroom from prescott, arizona. i attract dozens of people to his retreat in sedona, arizona. people were over come by heat in the ceremony where ray told them to suffer the heat where three people died. he was convicted of negligent homicide in their deaths. i'm monitoring the hearing. we're told the defense team is fighting for probation. we're hearing right now from the prosecutors who say that they want ray to get the maximum. that would be nine years in prison. we're expected within minutes also to hear from victims who survived the ordeal. the judge saying he will consider their impact statements today before sentences james arthur ray. jon, back to you. jon: harris, keep an eye on it for us. >> reporter: will do. jon: appreciate it. thanks. >> oh, those dollar bills on the screen. we'll turn to the debt crisis now. time is running out for the super-committee to come up
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with $1.2 trillion in cuts over the next 10 years. you see the debt we have right now, over 15 trillion. there are certainly a lot of ideas how to reach the goal of 1.2 trillion in cuts. it includes tax loopholes and reducing duplicate government programs. let's talk to chief washington correspondent jim angle how hard this is really. some viewers probably think it is pretty simple, jim. maybe you will tell us something different. what do you think? >> reporter: well, it depend how you look at it but even as the super-committee agonizes over the numbers a lot of budget analysts argue it shouldn't be that hard to cut spending. listen. >> 1.2 trillion is five cents out of every dollar that will be spent over the next 10 years. citizens against government waste is now conducting a new campaign we're calling, congress, can you spare a dime? anybody that is facing the amount of red ink that the united states is now looking
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at would find ways to save money. >> reporter: now one target of course is duplication of programs and there is a lot of that. senator tom coburn has long complained about that problem. and argues there are many savings to be had there. listen. >> we have 100 different programs with 100 sets of bureaucracies, for surface transportation. why do we have that? because congress has mismanaged. >> reporter: now, and senator coburn and tom schatz of citizens against government waste note the federal government has also funded 56 separate programs to teach americans financial literacy. as schatz puts it at a time when the federal government itself as he put it, is going broke. jenna: a little ironic. didn't mean to snicker there. 56. hopefully one of them works. we had the debt commission, i don't want to mix it up
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with the super-committee or any other group but we had the debt commission and apparently the debt commission found if you just looked at deductions that you could slice $1.1 trillion off of the debt? is that correct? that brings us to the point how important taxes are in all of this. >> reporter: yeah, well the president's fiscal commission co-chaired by senator al simpson and former clinton chief of staffers kin bowles identified 1.1 trillion a year in what are called tax expenditures or tax deductions. they proposed getting rid of all of them and putting on the table those you want to keep. and lowering taxes significantly, tax rates. if you look at the 1.1 trillion some are politically sacrosanct. home mortgage interest deduction. charitable contributions and and. budget hawks said they should find 200 billion or so democrats and republicans could agree to cut. listen.
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>> that's right. you could save a very small amount of all total tax expenditures and that would lead to tremendous savings over 10 years. >> reporter: so, jenna, just 200 billion in change every year, just 200 out of 1.1 trillion would yield some 2 trillion in savings over 10 years. one of the complicating factors there of course that many lawmakers want comprehensive tax reform and would use those same savings to broad the base and reduce rates. and you can't use the same savings twice but most budget analysts say there are plenty of ways to save 1.2 trillion aside from raising revenues. jenna? jenna: that is great idea. ready for a little action. we'll see if we get it. jim angle, thank you so much. >> reporter: yeah. jon: anybody who could simplify our tax system would have my support. jenna: you got that? all right. jon: yeah. there is a shadow over penn state university with a sex scandal threatening to take down more than just football coaches. we'll tell you why many are wondering what is next for knittey nation and the
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jon: here in the acquisition center at the fox news channel we're bringing in news from all over the world. sometimes those news feeds are sad ones like the one we're waiting for on remote 254 right there. oklahoma state university, for the second time a plane crash has taken the lives of some members of its
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basketball family. this time legendary women's basketball coach kurt booed key, an assistant along with two others -- bud key. dow has been up today. a rocky week. we'll keep eye on that. take a look at weather on the west coast and northern plains. it will be a chilly weekend i'm told. we'll get an update from the fox weather department just ahead. jenna? jenna: well, jon, it is one of college football's most storied franchises, led recently by the winningest coach of all time. after former assistant coach jerry sandusky of penn state university was charged with sexually abusing children, everything was changed. the scandal rocked the community to its core costing long-time coach joe paterno his job. there are rumors now swirling a life-sized tribute to paterno might be removed from campus.
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looks like a long road back not only for the university but the commune at large. also the community at large when it comes to sports. we're talking with the senior writer for "sports illustrated" magazine, david epstein. he has the cover story this week. we were lucky enough to preview it. you were just down in happy valley and one of the things you talked about, happy valley being where penn state is, we often emphasize the happy but we forget about the valley part . what do you mean by that? >> that's right. even relative to other major universities, penn state is a city unto itself. it is really isolated. you go five minutes off campus there you're basically in cornfields. this was a edge roonal, what some people called a cow college, a regional university when joe paterno first came. now it is national university but totally self-contained. they're isolated and within that the athletic department is isolated and within that the football program is most isolated. we compared to the russian nesting areas of isolation
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with the football program being most eye lated. >> you encountered a lot of people talking about the scandal and one of them was a barber shop owner. tell us about that conversation and what that taught you about how the community is reacting as a whole. >> just off campus the barber shop we're told highest level administration torts and former president spanier were long time customers here. we were surprised rumors about jerry sandusky were basically working their way along the grapevine since he retired in his mid 50s. 1999. people wondered why he would retire. rumors are just rumors. you can't go on rumors. the fact even people off campus they were all over the place. we look back and now on popular message boards all over the place. jenna: do you feel any closer to understanding why there wasn't more done when any of these allegations came out? >> talking to some of the former players you really get the sense that joe paterno, while he had this kind of benevolent grand
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fatherly presence was a famous micromanager and ruled with a heavy hand in a way. so it's, he is the most powerful person in the lives of all these people who were there. jerry sandusky, the probably the second most powerful. jenna: that is interesting you read in the article how much influence joe paterno has in this school. easy to say who cares about the coach. we don't care. it is about the victims. certainly a valid point. joe paterno though is responsible for the library on campus. there is a class that is taught, joe paterno communication with the media. so you can actually take a "joepa" class. it is really about the culture here. >> that is what people call it, joe-pa class. it is overstated very offsend in this case. i don't think it is. jenna: you think he knew? >> i don't want to speculate. that is interesting question. he famous at micromanaging. it strains credulity to a lot of people that he was totally unaware. jenna: what does this mean for sports in general?
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there is lot of talk from ncaa otherwise, does penn state stop the program for a year? is there something more needs to be done? how would you summarize the reaction from the sports community as a whole and what consequences might come from this. >> a lot of athletes play professional and college football believe they should shelf the program for a couple years. everybody recognizes that would damage current players. it is not their fault at all. i think you'll see a very hard look at kind of the institutional culture and of doing things like separating the football program and allow entire own the to the stress and operate on its own. there will be a hard look integrating more that into the athletic department and university as a whole. jenna: is that to protect the school potentially from problems like this? >> to protect the school and you can't have such a wall of information. make sure more people are looking into anything here. jenna: it will be interesting to see. we're still so early into this story and yet there is still so much to find out. david, a great article. >> thank you.
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jenna: we appreciate it. check this out in "sports illustrated." thank you, david, for coming in. as the investigation continues fox news will bring you a special report by the way on the case that has rocked penn state. i feel like i had said that a million times. you can't emphasize it enough. it really rocked all of us all the way up to the governor, take a listen. >> why do you think it took so long for these alleged crimes to come to life? >> children don't know how to report it. how do they tell somebody what's going on? will somebody believe them or not believe them? >> when you look at mike mcqueary you're quoted as saying that he gave the minimal moral initiative here. you think he should have done more? >> a lot of people don't know what they would have done when faced with the swaths situation. i like to believe i would have done a lot more. jenna: tune in for a fox news special report, the crisis at penn state hosted by our very own john roberts. this saturday, november 19th. 10:00 p.m. eastern time. jon? jon: there are alarming
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concerns about a potential military strike against iran and the u.s. is warning israel that military action in that way could have a significant impact on the global economy. we'll get into that. plus, california authorities take a new look at an enduring hollywood mystery. what the captain of her yacht is now saying about the death of act crest natalie wood 30 years ago. geraldo rivera interviewed both robert wagner and that captain after wood's death. he is here with his take on this new but old mystery coming up.
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jenna: fox news alert. we do have breaking news on the penn state scandal. our own david lee miller talked with jerry sandusky's attorney. david lee joins us outside the football stadium in university park, pennsylvania. david lee? >> reporter: a few minutes ago i talked to him and one of the things he told us he thought the interview on nbc with jerry sandusky and you he thought it went well. they said the more they listen to jerry sandusky the more understanding they will have in this case. we talked about mike mcqueary. the conflicting stories mike mcqueary and what he reportedly said with e-mails. he says there are
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credibility issues for mike mcqueary that could affect everyone connected to this case. listen. >> how did you stop him? what did you do physically? why didn't you take the boy out? is there is lot of questions. >> reporter: is mike mcqueary to be believed? does he have any credibility left? >> that is up for somebody else to decide. based on this point what i'm hearing he recently said in texts to other people i think there is serious credibility issue here. quite frankly i'm hoping if there is, that the folks at penn state who have been totally, totally destroyed by this mess, will be vindicated at an early stage rather than at a later stage of this process. >> reporter: anything else you want to tell me? one of the egg things, one of the additional things amendola told us he repeated his claim that he found victim 2, the victim identified in the grand jury report the young boy who was in the shower with sandusky, the incident seen allegedly
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by mike mcqueary. he says that this victim tell as very different story and that nothing whatsoever sex all took place and this person described as victim by the grand jury actually attended sandusky family events. he is now trying to be able to prove in fact the individual he is talking with can be identified as victim number two because that incident took place about a decade ago, convincing that, including that, convincing people of that though is going to be a difficult task. jenna? jenna: the voice of the victims in all this, alleged victims in all this is a voice that's been tough to hear at this time. david lee miller thank you very much with the breaking report out of pennsylvania. more as we get it. jon? jon: right now, jenna, detectives are reopening an investigation into the hollywood mystery, the death of actress natalie wood 30 years after i had happened. a l.a. county sheriff will hold a news conference today. wood's death was ruled an
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accidental drowning back in 1981 it happened after a night of drinking with her husband, robert wagner. they were on their yacht named splendour and i long with actor christopher walken and the ship's captain. wood and wagner argued and she went up on deck and was found off catalina island. a captain in at book he felt wagner was responsible. a representative from wagner's family said although no one in the wagner family has heard from the l.a. county sheriff's department about this matter, they fully support the sheriff's department. the waggers in trust they will evaluate whether any new information relating to death of natalie wood and comes from sources other than those trying to profit from the 30-year anniversary of her tragic death. someone who looked at this case in the past.
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geraldo rivera the host of "at large" on fooks news channel. you spoke to some of the main people? >> dennis davern, the skipper. rj wagner you see him in commercials and people remember him in heart to heart. natalie wood was three-time academy award winner. splenled door in the grass, rebel without a cause, gypsy. goes on and on. "west side story." she was america's sweetheart. they were bigger than ashton kutcher and demi moore in their era. so she was huge. so here you have a story where they go on this boat, the spledour. like splendor in the grass. it is anchored off catalina island. at some point christopher walken, starring in a movie with her. they are getting chum my. rj sees them chummy and gets angry. he has a real fit. everything ensues from that.
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here is my interview with the captain dennis davern who is now speaking. this is the 10th anniversary of the 1981 death. we're talking about 30th anniversary. jon: this is sound from 20 years ago? >> sound from 20 years ago. 10 years after it happened. hear is the captain. >> i know natalie wouldn't voluntarily step in a dinghy and leave the boat. i fired up engines on the boat. said let's turn the flood light on, the spotlight on and look. >> davern saw something not reported to the police. >> what happened in the half hour that rj went down and looked for natalie, they got into an argument. see i don't know if i can tell you that. >> he is backing down from telling me what happened. first of all, very briefly, after the argument with christopher walken, natalie disappears. the firm version is that is the last time anyone sees
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her. what the captain is saying in essence is that no, he heard rj arguing with natalie on the fantail of the boat shortly before she disappeared and then rj, robert wagner, did not let the captain report her disappearance to the coast guard for a long time, and he surmises now in this book that rj was so angry alternately for flirting with christopher walken, that he did something, pushed her in the water. that she would never go in the water herself. she had her nightgown on. she was deathly afraid of the water and of the dark. she believes rj wagner is some way cupable. i don't know what new evidence the sheriff's deputies have to reopen this case but i do know these questions persisted. questions have persisted about the captain who is extremely heavy drinker. he had a flask with him when he did that interview. those little bottles, little miniature alcohol. jon: right. >> that problem and also that he crystalized what he
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remembered to sell this book. jon: her friends, her family have said she would never have gone up on deck in the dark of night to tie up that dinghy which was supposedly the reason she was out there. the dinghy was banging against the side of the vessel. she would have never done that she was deathly afraid of the water. she didn't like the dark. >> i have questions, jon about the captain i have no question but there are disturbing circumstances, disturbing facts in natalie wood's drowning accidental death. seemed it was a rush to judgement that it was an accident. i welcome they're reopening the investigation but i say go with caution because this guy's story, this captain's story has changed over the 30 years. jon: 30 years later. what a story. >> 30 years later. hollywood has these enduring mysteris. jon: thanks. general jenna? jenna: americans are asking so much about the super-committee, debt, economy, jobs in general. with very a great guest to answer some of your questions. steve forbes will drop by.
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broken heart syndrome and it is very real. it is very physiological. it happens when there is traumatic events in a person's life like the death after spouse or even a big surprise the body produce as lot of chemicals. when the chemicals reach the heart it can be shocked and literally begin to break. here to explain this is dr. garner from new york methodist hospital. a real broken heart? >> it is a broken heart can be from good or bad things. for some reason women, almost 95% in women. maybe because they're more sensitive and emotional. jenna: when we're fragile i might argue we're more in touch with the universe that's why we feel things deeper. >> very well-put. jenna: that is my opinion. you're the medical expert on this why does it affect women more than men? >> women's heart is different than men. it has places when you get a adrenaline, burst of adrenaline hits the heart and makes it beat receptors. women have fewer places to land. it gets overloaded and stuns
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the heart and starts pumping. jenna: what a difference from a heart attack? >> heart attack is blocked arteries. you can't find anything wrong in the arteries. what happens the muscle begins to dial late or enlarge and doesn't pump as well. jenna: can i hold that? >> don't break my heart. jenna: what do you have. >> this is a japanese pot to the catch octopus. you push it down. you flip it in way and he can't get out. the heart gets like this a balloon. you look here, remember from biology. jenna: i hope so. that was an important class. >> the ventricles they pump. see how nice and sleek they are. in this condition it dial lates so much that it can't contract. jenna: it doesn't mean you would die from it? >> about 1% die. jenna: what happens after you have a broken heart syndrome? >> takes two weeks to heal. many doctors are not not i wear of this. patient comes in and they work them up and they send
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them home. this is not good. the patient is prone to irregular heartbeat and getting congestion and dying. someone like joe paterno even though he is man could fall into percentage because of such a severe shock that he had. jenna: how do you know you have broken heart syndrome versus heartburn and. >> this is tricky. jenna: especially when you're dealing with something very traumatic. >> you must go into the emergency room because same symptoms. chest pain, shortness of breath. weakness in the arm. want to go into the emergency room, get ekg. get worked out. if you're normal he will send you home. >> fascinating that it is mostly women. i might need an extra one. >> have you ever had your heartbroken? jenna: of course. haven't we all? i never had heart break syndrome. >> broken heart. >> broken heart syndrome. thank you very much. jon, we'll keep this on set in case we need an extra, my broken hearts have always been because of women, doctor. jenna: okay. jon: they're not always the
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innocent victims. coming up a slam-dunk that would make air jordan proud. we'll show you the high-flying dunk one nba star pulled off on a one-of-a-kind basketball hoop. and tim tebow, some serious last-minute magic leads the broncos to a win with his own touchdown run. can colorado's miracle worker keep it up and lift the broncos to the playoffs? ♪ .
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♪ . jenna: can we play that before every segment?
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it kind of pumps you up right? jon: gets the heart charging doesn't it. jenna: let's talk about football. jon: i'm not a very popular guy today in this newsroom. jenna: you think so? jon: because our newsroom so located in new york, and last night my denver broncos defeated the new york jets. do i look a little bleary eyed today? i couldn't turn it off. i couldn't turn it off. tim tebow, everyone is wondering about tim tebow. he is proved it last night. all the pregame analysts said new york was going to win. uh-uh. tim tebow takes the denver broncos basically single-handedly and --. jenna: you're right. lots of questions over the last several games about whether or not he is the guy to go with. will he grow into the professional player. jon: your dad, a former nfl quarterback, right? jenna: that's right. jon: he has criticisms. there is john elway. he likes that. jenna: i wouldn't assume that about me. i like the prayer at the
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end. thank you, tebow. jon: there is new york trying to come back on a hail mary, last play of the game. denver broncos go on to win. jenna: good for tebow. especially with so many people say you are aren't going to make it. jon: and eddie royal who had a key reception in the game. thank you. from the nfl tote nba, one superstar gives michael air jordan a little run for his money. check out this high-flying dunk. >> [inaudible]. >> do that. >> no. >> get up enough. there you go. >> here we go. oh. [laughter] jon: that is rudy gay of the memphis grizzlies. that hoop, 25 feet high.
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proskateboarder and mtv star, rob dierdak hosting gay at the famed fantasy factory skate park. if you haven't seen the show the kids love it. the it was at that feet above a foam filled ball pit filled with blocks of foam. he signed an $85 million contract. he bet the crew when he saw the rim, the rest is history, he actually got it done. jenna: since they're not playing right now you have to keep challenging yourself. jon: what else do you do? i wonder if his insurance company saw him do that from 25 feet above the floor. jenna: got you updated about football, basketball, about the economy. we are following the allegations at penn state. this about the war on terror. why the obama administration is threatening to veto a massive defense bill on a policy handling terrorist suspects. always controversial. we have details in a live
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jenna: hi everybody, we're glad you're with us on this friday, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott, "happening now", l.a. police take new look at the mysterious death of a hollywood stark the tragic drowning of natalie wood on a night on a yacht with robert wagny and her costar christopher walken. jenna: the l.a. county sheriff's office is expected to hold a news conference to explain exactly why the case reopened after all these years, the captain on the boat that night saying there's more to the story than we've ever heard. casey stegall has more on this. tell us why this captain and his story seems to be changing. >> reporter: jenna, pretty
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interesting developments that we're following. he is now saying that he lied to investigators about what really happened that night. dennis davern is this man's name, he was the captain of wood's 60-foot yacht called the slender, and heo splendor, and he says that natalie wood's husband, actor robert wagner and christopher walken had gotten into a fight on the evening of november 29th, 1982, the trio had been to dinner on cat rita island off the coast of southern california and returned to the yacht for drinks. he goes on to say he later heard wagner and wood fighting in their cabin and the night ended up with wood ending up miss, the l.a. coroner's office ruling it an accident, saying the 43-year-old three-time oscar nominee had slipped, fallen into the water and drowned. the l.a. county sheriff's department says they would
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like to reinterview the captain and this new reason is the -- information is the reason the investigation was reopened. natalie wood's sister has said all along that she never believed robert wagner's version of what happened on that fateful night, jenna. jenna: case yes, as you were giving a report, it was a roundup of everything that's happened over the last 24 hours, we got something into fox news urgent from one of our colleagues who spoke with the l.a. county coroner at the time of wood's death and that coroner now says there is nothing right now that would lead him to change his mind about finding her death an accident, but we'll see. that's the quote. we'll see. so robert wagner, obviously at the center of this story as well. how is he responding to this new information, if it is new indeed? >> >> reporter: incidentally, that coroner is now in his 80s, and my producer tka*l gallo literally just got off the phone with him, and he says that he doesn't really change what he said, what he ruled 30 years ago. so it's going to be very
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interesting to see what happens in this news conference scheduled for just about two hours from now. you talk about robert wagner. these are some pretty serious allegations. and he has released a statement through a spokesperson, and it says, quote -- let's show what you it says: although no one in the wagner family has heard from the l.a. county sheriff's department about this matter they fully support the efforts of the l.a. county sheriff's department. he goes on to say that he trusts investigators will determine whether this new information comes from a credible source or someone just trying to profit off the 30-year anniversary of his wife's tragic death. to be continued in los angeles. we're on top of it. jenna: thank you, casey, so much. jon: right now on capitol hill, time is running out for that supercommittee to reach a deal more than a trillion dollars in cuts before thanksgiving. if they can't, they'll risk automatic steep cuts to defense and domestic programs. with what is at stake, a lot
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of people surely thought doing a deal would be a no brainer and that's why the trigger to enact the cuts was built into the budget law, but some committee members are pessimistic now a deal can be reached. so what would failure do to the already shaky credibility of congress and the fate americans have in our government? david drucker is a staff writer for roll call. all right, so david, what about it? there is a lot of skepticism that this supercommittee is going to be able to get the deal done. what happens if they don't? >> well, then we go to a trigger or sequestration, the fancy washington word for that. interestingly enough, though, jon, these cuts would not go into effect until 2013, so i think you have members on both sides of the aisle saying that they'll fight it out or thinking that they'll fight it out in the 2012 elections and whoever comes out on top can undo whatever they don't like in 2013, before these things were to go into effect. and i think that both sides of the aisle agree on one thing, if nothing else, that
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a bad political deal would be worse than any deal. that suffering at the ballot box, having your own base of supporters go against you because of a deal you cut, is a worse option than reaching just any agreement. jon: obviously, all of the house members on this committee have to face the voters next november, but the senators are largely protected or not running again, right? >> that's true. but you have to look at it this way. the democrats have a 4-seat hold on the senate. republicans feel like with the electoral map as it is this election cycle they have a really good chance of taking back the senate in 2012 and if republicans can hold the house you have an all-republican congress regardless of what happens at the presidential level and that is weighing on the minds of republicans in the senate. jon: so these cuts that we're talking about, these automatic cuts to domestic programs and the pentagon, if they take place or if the committee can't reach a deal, we've got more than a year before those cuts actually begin to take
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effect. so presumably, congress could, over the course of 2012, come up with some other plan, right? >> well, it could. what i would expect that would happen is that nothing would actually be undone until 2013, and of course, it would depend upon who the president is after inauguration day in 2013 and who is running the congress, do republicans have full control of the house and senate, does a republican -- does obama win reelection, and that determines what would happen with this deal moving forward. i don't think you'll get much done next year so if this goes to sequestration, i don't think that's what this will be about and part of a campaign and you'll probably see it crop up on the campaign trail with republicans promising steep cuts and an undo of the defense cuts if they win the presidency and control of the senate and democrats promising to protect social programs and ensure defense bears its fair share of the burden if they remain in control of the senate and hold the white house. jon: seems like somebody
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ought to get something done in washington but there doesn't seem to be a lot of movement in that way. david drucker from roll call, thank you. jenna: new developments this hour on the child sex abuse scandal at penn state university. we're getting exclusive new information on former assistant coach jerry sandusky who is of course charged with sexually abusing eight young boys. david lee miller spoke to the laura short time ago for sandusky and he joins us with those headlines. now i understand you have more information for us. >> reporter: that's right, jenna. one of the things ed mendola was certain to do when i spoke to him was reamp his client is innocent, he also told me he doesn't think his client will be able to get a fair trial not just here in pennsylvania, but he says due to publicity, anywhere in the country. he also said he had no regrets, that he allowed his client, jerry sandusky, to give that televised interview on nbc, one that many people felt hurt sandusky. listen to what ed mendola had to say: >> i think it helped us, because i think rather than
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having people commenting that jerry's lawyer is spinning his case for him, i think people needed to hear from jerry that he was innocent, that he didn't commit the acts of which he's been charged. he came across as jerry always comes across. and i think the more that he gets out in the public eye, the more he speaks, i think the more people will understand that that's just jerry's mannerisms, the way he answers questions, his thoughtfulness, his thinking process takes time, his responses are slow, and sometimes they're extended. >> reporter: we asked to speak with sandusky and amendola told us that would not be possible at this time but he did say he was going to make his client available to the media once again in the very near future. he also said, jenna, he has been successful in locatings the individual identified by the grand jury and it's reported as victim number two. victim number two is the victim that was allegedly raped by sandusky. that act, witnessed according to the grand jury report, by assistant coach
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mike mcqueary. mcqueary has sent out e-mails that allegedly contradict his grand jury testimony and amendola said it's hard to believe that mcqueary has credibility. listen: >> i think he has a serious credibility issue. that's up for somebody else to decide, but i think at this point, based upon what i'm hearing, he recently sent in his texts to other people, i think there's a serious credibility issue here and quite frankly, what i'm hoping is that if there is, that the folks at penn state who have been totally, totally destroyed by this mess will be vindicated, at an early stage rather than at a later stage of this process. >> reporter: and lastly, he did tell us that his client, jerry sandusky, is now fearful that he, sandusky, will not be able to lead a normal life. last night, someone for the second time in one week vandalized the sandusky home, another window was broken no, arrests that we are aware of.
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jenna. jenna: interesting. david lee, we'll continue to watch it. thank you. jon: well, he is charged with trying to assassinate president obama, and there are some bizarre new details on a shooting at the white house, and who this suspect claims to be. >> jenna: frightening new dashboard video of a confrontation in indiana. harris faulkner is here to take your questions for steve forbes in america's asking. >> reporter: let me tell you what is coming up with the story you just saw, seven minutes long, ten shots fired. unreal video of a police chase that just goes heywire at the end. we've got that coming up for you. and also, the investigation that is pursueing in that. and now, as jenna just mentioned, if you have questions for steve forbes, go to you'll notice on the front page where the top story is. click on the red letters, that will take you to the live chat, you get in on the
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jenna: a violent arrest cut on tape and we're tkpwaeg look at dash cam video of a police chase and shooting in indiana that left a suspect dead. harris, do you have more on this? >> reporter: yeah, let's take a look at this video right away. police in lafayette were after a guy, he was wanted actually for questioning in an arson, as well as battery on a woman. so they start this pursuit t. lasts seven minutes, it
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happened just before 5:00 a.m. in the morning on october 19th but we're getting our first look now today as they've released this video. the review board of the police department had to look at this, because eventually, this guy gets out of his car, and attacks a police officer with a knife. they open fire, ten shots are fired. he can't hear a lot -- you can't hear a lot of voices in this, you just hear sirens and hey mem. -- and may help -- mayhem. i can lower my voice so you can hear for a second. [sirens] >> >> reporter: could you notice that, off the center of your screen, you can see a very large gun come into the camera, then the police officers are there? at one point, jon and jenna, there were dozens of officers seen on the streets as the seven minute-long chase mapped. what we're looking at is the end of that chase, ten shots fired, he is shot, we're told, seven times, the suspect. he dies at the end of all of this, lafayette, indiana police department has
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cleared all of the officers involved in that shooting. but amazing video to see, and people in the area, looking out their windows at close to 5:00 in the morning as well, because it was a whole lot of noise with all of that. back to you guys. jenna: extraordinary video to see. harris, thank you for talking us through that. what an operation. jon: any time those guys come at you with a knife, police aren't going to mess around. jenna: what are you going to do, right. jon: there is new vide that reveals bizarre details about the guy trying to assassinate president obama. oscar ortega hernandez fired nine shots at the white house on friday. now we're learning more about what his motive might have been. wendell goler live at the white house. >> reporter: the 21-year-old ortega hernandez told people that president obama was the antichrist, he was putting to put gps chip necessary children and needed to be killed. in a video, he did not
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thr-ten the president but did claim to be jesus christ. >> you see, oprah? there is still so much more that god needs me to express to the world. it not just a coincidence that i look like jesus. i am the modern-day jesus christ that you all have been waiting for. >> reporter: his mother says she doesn't believe the 21-year-old from idaho falls is mentally ill though she says he might be confused and scared. investigators say ortega hernandez fired a number of times at white house, button shrug -- one slug broke a window by the balcony, that window is in the middle of the first family's living quarter, police say several shots bounced off the white house between the second and third floors. of course the president and first lady weren't here when the shots were fired friday night but their two daughters and mrs. obama's mother were believed to have been here. the white house nor the secret service will confirm that, nor will they say who
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found the slug that broke the window on the truman balance con --o balcony. one reason we asked is, of course, because there are secret service officers stationed on the grounds and roof and it's hard to believe that they didn't hear this, but on friday, police were saying they weren't even sure that the shots that witnessed heard were aimed at the white house. jon. jon: wendell goler. kind of a strange story there. thanks wendell. jenna: weeks after a child sex abuse scandal exploded at penn state another coach at another university is facing some similar allegations. geraldo rivera is going to join us to bring us updates on both case. over 50 -- almost 50 years after john f. kennedy's assassination and nat-geo is airing a documentary showing rare images of of that day that will really live on in infamy. what the new footage -- what the new footage reveals. we'll have that for you, just ahead.
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jon: a fox news alert. there's been a deadly plane crash in arkansas. it has killed key members of the oklahoma state women's -- oklahoma state university women's basketball program. harris faulkner is at the breaking news desk. >> reporter: yeah, i just finished watching the oklahoma state university officials hold a very emotional news conference as you might imagine, jon, confirming the names of those coaches, as well as a former senator, state senator, who was killed in this as well. let's start with oklahoma state university basketball coach kurt budke on the left there and assistant coach miranda cerna, killed when their single engine plane went down. they were actually on a recruiting trip and it crashed near a wildlife management area in central arkansas, 45 miles west of
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little rock. also on that plane was a veteran pilot, the man flying the plane was olen brandsetter, a former senator there, and his he and his wife paula were killed as well. former state senator brandsetter, 82 years old, and his wife, paula, killed in this as well. we don't know all the details of what caused that plane to go down, however t. went down in very steep terrain near this wildlife area. a couple of other things that came out of that news conference that will affect things nationwide for a while, they have canceled the women's basketball games that were planned saturday and sunday. they were home games. they're off the schedule now, coaches saying they're not sure if they will be rescheduled. then there was a wrestling match that was scheduled for tonight at the university as well. they have canceled that. a memorial service is tentatively planned for monday at this point. that date could move a little bit. but that's what they're looking at. they've got counselors on campus who will be working with students.
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what has been said about these two coach, that osu, they lost great mentors, more than just coaches on that campus, these people made a huge difference in a lot of students' lives. back to you. jon: very, very sad. thanks harris. >> reporter: sure. jenna: another university well known for athletics is being accused of sex abuse, long time syracuse assistant basketball coach bernie fine. joining us to tell us what's happening, geraldo rivera. you know what everyone is saying, it's skwr*ut penn state, comparisons being made. you say there are real differences. >> there are evidentiary differences. remember, in penn state, what you had was mike mec queary, allegedly in 2002, seeing something awful happening, the anal rape of a ten-year-old in the shower. you also had an eyewitness in 1990, that's -- that's 2002. one hundred ninety-nine #, there was an eyewitness, a mother, complaining,
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contemporaneously in this situation, with the ball -- where the ball boy is alleging the assistant coach abused him during the period he was the ball boy for syracuse university's varsity basketball team. he did not report that. as far as i can tell, he stops being the ball tpwhoeu 1990. in 2003 is when the allegations surfaces, 13 years has gone by. now, that's much more comparable to some of the allegations against the priests in the catholic church. it does not mean that the allegations are false, it's just they're a lot weaker because they're not contemporaneous, they weren't reported as they happened, but many, many years later. jenna: what is the response from the university or even the police? is there evidence of an investigation that is happening? >> well, in 2005, there was an investigation, a four-month investigation by syracuse university into these very same charges and the university swears there was absolutely no corroborating evidence to support this kwr-pbg man's allegations.
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that doesn't, again, that they didn't happen. it's just that the university says they investigated for four-month, found no corroboration, then dropped the case. now, it could be, again, and we have to stress this, syracuse basketball is like penn state football. it is enormously important to the university. there is an incentive, i think, however overt or even subtle or subconscious, to protect the program that is the cash cow feeding the university. so you have to put it in that context. was this in 2005 a full, fair investigation of these allegations, or was it not. the reaction now to suspend this man, the assistant coach, and put him on administrative leave by the university, i think that the reaction now is part and parcel to do with penn state and that awful scandal. syracuse wants to make sure that they're not going to be like penn state. they want to make sure that they do everything they can to get all of these gory details out, as soon as they
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can, as thoroughly as they can. that, i think, is why. but there is also the danger of hysteria taking hold, of a kind of mob justice taking hold, that every university now confronted by these allegations will overreact. i just think that everybody has to be very cautious. if these allegations have lasted all these many years, let's go very pedestrian, let's plod, let's go forward, let's see if, indeed, the alleged perpetrator in this case, if his -- let's see if the accusers' words are corroborated. jenna: that's an interesting legal perspective, as well as one as a unlist, when we're looking at these stories. you mentioned hysteria, we're going to talk about the emotion in this in the next segment. remember, geraldo, 10:00 p.m. eastern time on fox news channel. don't want to miss that for sure. if the -- in the meantime we're going to bring in dr. keith ablow and
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dr. ablow, geraldo points out it's easy to feel -- well, hysteria might be the best word, of wondering how many other situations are happening like the one described, whether that was true or false, like the one described at penn state. what should parents be worried about, like how reactionary should we be when we hear these stories? >> well, first of all, jenna lee, in regard to syracuse, of course this has to be seen through a lens where you really take a like microscopically and have evidence, these charges are many years old or in the making, so you don't want to indict anybody where there's no guilt. one might ask if he's an administrative leave now, was he on administrative leave then, how serious was this four-month investigation, was the man put on leave to protect potentially other young children from him, if they took it seriously enough to do the investigation. but here's a report from the front lines of psychiatry. i work with people all the
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time, there are weeks where i see 40 people. there are many, many, many more people out there who never report abuse that takes place. so in terms of are we at risk to have an epidemic of false reporting, we're so far from that, that we couldn't be further from it. because i do -- i follow it all the time. jen let me stop you there. i was actually looking for research to try to put this story at penn state in context and i worked with the research department and said what kind of statistics can i use when it comes to child sex abuse, i've heard so many things thrown around over the last two weeks and we had great researchers and went through a bunch of studies and basically i found out i could not confidently put statistics on the air that i felt comfortable with because they're not necessarily accurate, that is, i don't know how to sk-p it -- explain t. but maybe you k. of how the numbers probably don't reflect, depending upon when you talk to the people, what age they were, how they define the sexual abuse, it's very tough to quantify. >> it's true.
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and the pathological nature of this is that the victim feels often, sadly, guilty about it, humiliated, and so i'm just one psychiatrist in boston, and i've had multiple cases in which victims, ten, 20 years later, have reached out with a lawyer for compensation, and been paid by perpetrators who have done horrible things to them. i'm just one doctor in boston. if i've got a handful of cases in which adult men have reached back to those who have abused them as children, out of my one office, and the people they've reached have said yes, i did it, and here's compensation, but the statutes of limitations has run criminally, that means there has to be a huge number left unexplored. jenna: incubation period for coming forward is an interesting one. >> it did be 20 years. thirty years. jenna: dr. ab lo, thank you for -- ablow, thank you for your perspective. we'll continue to talk through this. obviously, jon, a lot more of these stories potentially
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to come. jon: let's hope not. the tug-of-war between the white house and congress over gitmo. why the dispute risks torpedoing billions in defense spending. plus no apologies from the energy secretary over the solyndra scandal. have republicans found their smoking gun on how half a billion dollars of tax money went up in smoke? or is this all much ado about nothing? our fox news watch panel weighs in on the political stakes for the white house. >> i'm aware of no one, no communication from white house to the department of energy saying to make the loan or to restructure it. the postal service is critical to our economy--
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jenna: welcome back, everyone. some major developments on the future of the war on terror. the white house threatening to veto a massive defense bill over a provision for detaining suspected terrorists in military custody unless the executive branch intervenes. it might be a little tough to follow. catherine herridge has all the details for us. break it down to us, catherine, what exactly is going on here? >> reporter: thanks jenna. the white house has sent out a statement yesterday that reads in part any bill that challenges or constraints the president's critical authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation would prompt the president's senior advisers to recommend a veto, but senior senators argue the white house has no clear policy for the detention and questioning of terrorists which makes the u.s. less safe.
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on the floor yesterday, senator mccain said the president promised to close gitmo, bring the 9/11 suspects to court, and failed. >> the administration policy has been a complete failure. >> if we had captured ann wa al-awlaki, what would we have done with him? if today, we capture zawahiri, the leader of al-qaeda, what would we do with him? >> reporter: in this bill's language, there is one carveout for american citizens captured in the u.s. all other suspects would go to military custody, unless the president used what's called a waiver authority to bring them to a civilian court, and law lawmakers say this is really part of the new reality. >> is america part of the battlefield? you better believe it's part of the battlefield. when is -- this is where they want to come. >> reporter: but there's opposition to this language that sends virtually every captor to military custody and it comes from the chair of the senate intelligence committee. >> i view the detention
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provisions of this bill as really pernicious, as an attack on the executive power of the president, and contrary to the best interests of this nation. >> reporter: so this conflict didn't come out of nowhere. it's really been brewing in argument over this language for the better part of five months now. on the one hand you have senators who say this administration has no clear policy for dealing with terrorism suspects so we're going to take this in hand and lay it out in the bill, and the white house executive branch says that this is none of your business, you need to step out, you're exceeding your authority, jenna. jenna: interesting debate. catherine, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. jon: well, do not expect an apology from steven chu. the energy secretary, telling skeptical gop lawmakers that white house arm twisting and bureaucratic incompetence had nothing to do with the half billion in taxpayer dollars lost to the now-bankrupt solyndra company. instead, chu blames the
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economy for the failure of that maker of solar panels. but house republicans are saying the secretary and others in the obama administration should have seen this coming, pointing to red flags that they claim were too hard to ignore. joining us now, long time members of our news watch panel, fox news contributors kirsten powers, a columnist for the daily beast and judith miller, pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter. i think one of the questions here, kirsten, is not so much, you know, did the economy go south, and did solyndra fail, but should the government be involved in backing with taxpayer money half a billion dollars worth of loan guarantees. isn't that really the issue here? >> well, i guess it is the larger philosophical issue but remember this loan program was set up under the bush administration so it's not actually a controversial idea, the idea that the government would -- i guess it's becoming controversial now but it typically isn't controversial, the idea that the government would get involved in emerging technologies. it wasn't the economy that
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-- i don't even know why he would say that, that caused this, but what happened is china started subsidizing the companies in their country who are competing with solyndra and they basically were undercutting -- the price dropped, and they became uncompetitive, they couldn't compete with it and that's why they went out of business. i don't know if it's reasonable for the administration to have seen that coming. jon: why are republicans pushing for an apology, and is it appropriate, judy, for the energy secretary to try to issue one? >> well, i think the energy secretary, jon, had to acknowledge yesterday that there were some aspects of this loan guarantee that were, as he put it, not a proper way to do business. for example, the department of energy advising the company to announce massive layoffs after the mid-term elections. there are all kinds of questions that still continue to surround this loan, that includes such as the story that fox news broke yesterday, which is, you know, was there
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political pressure brought to bear, was there someone from the white house put inside the energy department to continue this loan to make sure that this loan really got fast tracked, and did this person have any connections to the obama campaign. i mean, look, this is a story that cries out for more investigative reporting. this is what's happening to solyndra. jon: when george kaiser, kirsten, is one of the president's biggest financial backers, and also one of the backers of this company, that does -- well, it raises a lot of questions about whether this thing passes the smell test or not. >> yes. the only thing i would say is that this all fits into obama's goals. he's been quite open during the campaign, in that he supports clean energy, so it's not surprising that the administration would see this as being part of the future. there are a lot of smart people who think that outside the administration. what we need is -- and judy is right, it calls out for an investigation but what we
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need is a smoking gun that says they did it because of campaign pressure, not because it was, frankly, just part of a broader policy, that they've been quite transparent about having. jon: let's turn our attention to the weekend -- week in politics. judy, newt gingrich has been getting some pretty negative stories in the press. it also coincidentally is coming at a time when his ratings put him at the top of the heap, or near the top of the heap in some polls of republican voters. is he getting all of this attention just because that's what comes when you're up there near the top? or is it unfair criticism and media criticism? >> no, i think this is part of the pattern, jon, that we've seen in the republican, anybody-but-romney hunt. anybody but romney. somebody emerges as the frontrunner, they raise lots of money, ala rick perry or herman cain and all of the sudden the media focus on this individual, more
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closely. in the case of newt, there's just so much baggage there, there's so much to focus in on, including the million dollars loan payment, what everyone is going to call it, from fannie mae, and his having to take to the air waves to say he was not a lobbyist, his marital history, i mean, it's just going to be field day. it has been a field day for reporters. but it is appropriate. as soon as he becomes the frontrunner, that's when the media scrutiny really begins in earnest. yet again, with him. jon: have reporters accepted his explanations of the fannie mae-freddie mac thing, kirsten? >> i don't think so, but because it doesn't really add up what he has said. he has presented himself as an historian and said he wasn't lobbying, and i think he particularly wasn't lobbying, but he obviously was helping them lobby. so i think it's something that's going to continue to dog him, but then there are new things coming out such as him, you know, writing something for "the washington post" about essentially defending what conservatives think are,
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quote unquote, death panels. so i think there are going to be new things that come out and yes, he's under skraoultny as he should, as any leading candidate should be. jon: we'll continue to look at this, as well as the solyndra coverage, when i host "news watch" tomorrow. thank you. we cover the top stories on "news watch", tomorrow, 2:30 p.m. eastern. and we'll be right back. could'. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ deep breath] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth!
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praised the occupy wall street folks, knew they've been caught assaulting police, among other things, will this haunt those leaders, politically? see you top of the hour. jenna: a team of historians, shedding new light on the assassination of president john f. kennedy. there's brand new documentary revealing all the new claims, focusing on the conspiracy theory swirling around the assas sin -- assassin, lee harvey oswald. >> few historical events from the crucifixion to the war have been reenacted more than the assassination of president kennedy. a team of historians and secret service officers claims to have used new technology on old evidence to slidfy the judgment that leer harvey oswald acted alone. nat-geo will air a documentary, j.f.k., the lost bullet.
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the research team digitally upgraded a number of home movies taken that day, including the famous saprude er film, but also the motorcade that was taken by robert hughes, a customs agent situated at the southeast corner of daily plaza. they say the high definition film now enables us to see a shadowy figure moving inside the depository building, that figure is believed to be lee harvey oswald, aiming the rifle at the president's motorcade. >> in our conclusion, he fired three shots in about 11 seconds, which is almost double, you know, the six seconds in dallas that most people know, when they think about the assassination, six seconds, three shots in six seconds. we say three shots in 11 seconds, which is a much easier for i'd say someone
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of oswald's skill, effortless task. >> reporter: of course large numbers of americans continue to believe that president kennedy's killed as a result of a conspiracy. jfk, the lost bullet, airs on the n tafplt-geo channel. jon and jenna, what do you believe? >> jenna: that's a loaded question! we will not weigh in on what has become obviously one of the biggest stories of the last 100 years. it's still amazing to see that interview and the footage, every time you see it. you just can't take your eyes off of it. >> it's fascinating. jenna: james, amazing story telling by you as well. jon: we look forward to watching that. >> it is not too late to get your questions in for america's asking. harris. >> reporter: go to's front page, you'll see beneath the top story, there's a place you see live chat t. will take you to the home page of the get in with your questions and comments. regan wants to know did
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steve forbes help rick perry formulate his tax plan? that's trending. get on, get your questions and comments so you can become part of the conversation with steve forbes, moments away. stay close.
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jenna: well, it's friday and time to take your questions to one of our biggest speaker views, america's asking, steve forbes, about the economy and everything else and steve, let's go ahead and start with a question by thra*eubg harris has mentioned before our break. he wanted to know how involved you are with rick perry and the formulation of rick perry's tax plan. >> i have input on it. he had a couple of people work on it. i talked to him himself on it, and i think the outcome was pretty good. he got the rate down to 20 percent. i'll take that. and the generous exemption for adults and kids, so taxes don't go up for lower income people.
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that's critical to making it pass politically and economically. jenna: the last time we talked, it was just before you officially endorsed rick perry for president. now thaw officially did, i'm just wondering how you think things have gone over the last couple of weeks. are you disappointed with rick perry and his performance for example in some of the de stpwhaeuts. >> the famous debate incident, i think that's what people look for when something like that happens is how do you react to it, do you crawl up in a corner and call it a day or pick yourself up with grace and move forward. ronald reagan had a terrible moment in 1984, worst ever, bill clinton spoke before the democratic convention, was booed, four years later, becomes president, the key thing is how you react. he's reacted well. i think he's got a chance to come back. it's a very fluid situation. in iowa, he's got good ground forces which is going to be critical so he can come back in the game. jen you're behind him 100 percent. >> oh, absolutely. jenna: let's move to washington with the supercommittee. are they going to come up
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with $1.2 trillion in cuts? that's the big question going into this weekend. kayla had this question for you, why do we have to cut so little over ten years, referring to that $1.2 trillion, that's over a ten year period. she wants to know what you would cut and what number you would search for. >> she's right, it's 2 1/2 cents on the tkpwhrarbgs assuming the cuts are real. that's the be you could get, republicans wanted more, democrats less, when we put this together, so that's why it's not going to happen until after next year, elections. do we get a real mandate to make real cuts, then i think you'll see real cuts, you'll see big ones in reforming medicare, medicaid, and social security, long term and in positive ways. they're not going to affect anyone who's on the system today. but in terms of departments, rick perry had it right, there are a lot of departments, he -- the third one -- >> it could go to eight. >> that goes to our next question, carie wants to know where you'd see the easiest areas to cut. >> there's a lot of -- hud,
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what they call housing and urban development that could be cut out, section eight, which has not worked as well as it should, pieces of energy, commerce, pieces of education can certainly go, parts of health and human services you can cut without having an adverse impact, return a lot of the dollars to the state level. for example, if you take medicaid and put it all on the state level, block the money to them, they'll get more for the buck than washington possibly could. in terms of -- and even the defense department, in procurement. romney pointed out, world war ii, 1000 ships a year, we launched with 1000 people in the procurement department, today we launch nine ships a year with 24,000 people. even there, outside of troops on the ground, there's room for being more efficient. jenna: it's interesting to hear your perspective and answer our viewer questions. always glad to have you on the set with us. >> good to be with you. jen thank you for being with us mr. forbes and we'll talk more about the economy and what's happening throughout the day here at fox. we take look at the markets, up 22 points, steve forbes
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is backing rick perry and rick perry is going to be speaking with neil cavuto on "your world", 4:00 p.m. time. steve forbes supports him 100 percent. you're going to hear from rick perry himself later today on fox. ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes, and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the season of audi event.
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