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>> gretchen: we'll show you how to get a workout in your car. are we parking? >> hopefully not. >> steve: thank you for joining us today. we'll see you back here tomorrow gregg: we are getting our first look inside asiana flight 214. the national transportation safety board on the scene releasing these pictures to the public. you can see the charred interior of the plane, the seats crushed together and the oxygen masks hanging from the ceiling. heather: we are learning new details about the pilot who had just flown 43 hours an a boeing 777 when he tried to land this aircraft. they are saying the plane was
too low and too slow. >> you can see the emergency chutes deployed and passengers running for their lives. the plane becomes engulfed in smoke as firefighters try to put out the flames. this particular pilot was still in training we understand. and this was his first landing at san francisco international airport with that kind of plane, the boeing 777. is that where this thing is heading? >> i think what we need to understand and what i would like to make absolute lire clear is the handling pilot who was relatively inexperienced. he had only 43 hours on the triple 7. but he wasn't the overall captain in charge of the airplane. that was an instructor captain
who had over 3,000 hours on the triple 7 and was a very experienced captain. what was happening -- this happens throughout all of the airlines to maintain the experience levels is that this relatively junior pilot would have been give even and opportunity to make -- would have been given an opportunity to make the approach. it should have been done in a measures way with the instructor pilot overlooking him at all times. gregg: they say the plane was too low and too slow and asked to try again. >> it wasn't just slow by a few miles an hour, it was sufficient for a small. >> the ntsb told us that at 7 seconds there was a voice in the
cockpit that asked to increase speed. at 4 seconds there was a device that shakes the stick which means that the aircraft is on an incipient stall. then at 1.5 seconds to go there were voices in the cockpit that said go around which is an order to go full power and take the aircraft out of danger. we know those actions were given. the question is should she have been given earlier. gregg: the answer is obviously yes. >> in terms of the outcome absolutely. but what we have to unthrough the ntsb is how we came to this position given the most of the approach -- the information we have so far tells us it seems to be fairly stable. the throttles were island and the pilots were making a steady
approach. what i would say about sfo is the approach is a fairly complicated approach. the crew would have been fatigued. they would have been coming to a relatively long day and the pilot is given visual flight rules. there is visibility in excess of five miles. but most pilots make these approaches with semi or fully automated systems. so the crew will have been fairly tired. the approach because the threshold is protruding out into the sea. the captain won't have good visual references in the right-hand seat.
we know the weather wasn't particularly good and there was a glassy surface on the sea. i think it information is telling us the approach was quite complicated. gregg: thank you very much, michael. heather: moment after the plane crash landed the pilot radioed to the tower for help. it's difficult to unwhat he's saying but his voice is strangely calm given the chaos on board. >> emergency vehicles are responding. gregg: the ntsb saying 7 seconds out the crew asked to increase its air speed. it says the plane came in well below the approach speed of 137
knots that crew members talked about. 4 seconds out the stick shaker goes off showing the plane could stall and the crew asks to aboard the landing. after hitting a seawall the plane crashes. the pilots talk to air contract figure control and emergency vehicles are deployed. gregg: san francisco general hospital treating 53 of the injured. 36 people have been discharged. the chief of surgery is describing some of the serious injuries they are treating. >> a huge amount of spine fractures, some of which include paralysis. >> one of the passengers said the seats in front of her collapses and came at her.
gregg: as first responders raced to the crash scene this call was caught on audio. >> we are being escorted in. we have three engines and four ambulances coming with us now. >> when they arrived they found the bodies of two teenages girls dead on the runway and reportedly found passengers coming out of the water. heather: why didn't the pilots notice earlier there was a problem. we'll have the preliminary report in the next hour. gregg: ntsb investigators on their way to a deadly plane crash in alaska. police say a fire that consumed the aircraft was initially kept firefighters from reaching the wreckage.
we are keeping an eye on this developing story as well. heather: a fox news alert. moments ago the defense resumed its case in the george zimmerman murder trial. one of the big questions looming, will the accused's attorney put the defendant on the stand? phil keating is outside the courthouse in sanford, florida. the defense began its case by calling zimmerman's family? >> reporter: unlike the prosecution which ended its case friday resting in the afternoon after trayvon martin's mother testified the voice screaming on the 911 tape was her son. the defense began friday evening with its case doing the same thing. putting zimmerman's family on the stand to tiddify that scream as george zimmerman's, not martin's. we are beginning week number 3
of this trial with an attorney bench conference. zimmerman's sister as well as trayvon martin's mortar and father. out in the hallway we know a detective with the sanford police departments out there. she is likely to be the first witness called monday morning. she is the first officer with sanford, p.d. to interview zimmerman after the shooting that night back in february of 2012. a little emotional george zimmerman was friday evening as his uncle testified the scream was his nephew and his mother just as certain. >> do you know whose voice that was streaming in the background. >> yes, sir. >> whose voice was that? >> my son george. >> russert of that? >> because he's my son. >> over 9 days of testimony prosecutors called under 40 witnesses. the defense, mark o'mara, the
attorney more george zimmerman will likely wrap his case wednesday or thursday. heather: the defense has upwards of 30-40 people on its witness list but most of them will not be called? >> reporter: without a doubt. george zimmerman could take the stand to help justify his assault on a 17-year-old teenager. if he takes the stand it would allow prosecutors to possibly rip him up on cross-examination. even the state attorney who declined to the file charges originally -- the governor replaced him and appointed the special prosecutor out of jacksonville who on april 11, 2012, charged zimmerman with second degree murder. when he first heard them -- we
are still in the bench conference and the first witness coming up shortly will have more trial coverage coming up. heather: thank you so much. gregg: did the prosecution prove it case or will the jury be unconvinced? is reasonable doubt written all over this one? around legal panel will break it down. coming up -- chaos in egypt. dozens killed overnight as the military removes the president. now lawmakers questioning whether we should still send up to $1.6 billion in aid to egypt. heather: the president's healthcare law called a slow motion train wreck. is there more to come in the implementation of obama-care? >> a come were return for the 19 arizona firefighters killed in a
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>> what we should be doing is urging calmness and urging the military to move through this civilian process as quickly as possible and ask the muslim brotherhood to act with some degree of responsibility as it relates to what's happening. but our role right now should be one of applying calm, trying to get our partners in the region to do the same thing. gregg: kt macfarland lines us. senators on both sides of the aisle are saying cut off the military aid to egypt. >> we should have cut off the aid when morsi was starting to dismantle democracy. we should give them the aid now. they need to fix the government and get an inclusive government. and they need to find a way to fix that economy. egypt runs out of food by the
end of the year and no money to buy it. you will have foot riots by the end of the year unless the money is restored. gregg: we should use our money to nudge them in the right direction. >> the best interests of the united states isn't giving gift to people, it's to buy a seat at the table. that aid gives us a seat at the table and an ability to influence what happens next. gregg: what about the muslim brotherhood. >> they waited 80 years to be in charge. now that they have been in charge for a year they absolutely destroyed the economy. but they are not going to give up without a fight. i don't think the muslim brotherhood armed with sticks and bats and stones will be any match for the egyptian army. what i worry about is the muslim
brotherhood joins forces are al qaeda which already set up shop in the sinai peninsula and from that they use that as a staging ground to threaten attacks or threaten the suez canal. gregg: once in tour they were going about dismantling democracy. >> you described what happened. >> people forget, people was elected. people forget hitler was elected. morsi started crushinged the parliament. he went after the supreme court. he squashed all opposition. persecuted the christians. if somebody said if there had been an opportunity to get rid of hitler point have been a great thing? same thing. gregg: does it make it inexplicable why president obama
continued to support morsi. >> at every turn the obama administration did the wrong thing. they should have pressures morsi. they didn't say a thing. then when mubarak started getting street call p crowds and calls for his ouster, what did the administration do? they flipped sides. then morsi comes in and starts to dismantle the democracy. now that there is a chance that he could make the economy recover. they are cutting off aid. gregg: if egypt gets a do-over it gives barack obama another chance to get it wrong. heather: we have more information on the plane crash in san francisco.
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rushed to a nantucket hospital while vacationing with her family off the island of cape cod. a few hours later she was flown to massachusetts general in boston. >> she is still in critical condition. we are outside of massachusetts general hospital. the information we have is that this incident occurred on nantucket. she was rushed to the nantucket cottage hospital and brought to massachusetts general hospital. the secretary of state, her husband john kerry at her side during course of this. the family is grateful for ought outpouring of respect but they are asking for privacy at this time. we are told secretary kerry was afforded the equivalent of the president to gift motorcade access to the hospital. this is a security concern.
the secret service is here to insure the safety of the secretary of state as well as his wife at the hospital. but it remains a serious, serious issue that the family is dealing with here at the hospital. heather: did she have any health issues leading up to this? >> reporter: this is a surprise we are told by her family and friends. she is a breast cancer survivor and has been an advocate for women many health in recent years but had been doing well. she had reportedly falling a few years at her home and had a head injury but that's unclear if that has anything to do with what's going on in this particular episode. gregg: is obama-care a train wreck waiting to happen or has it already gone off the rails.
airliner slammed into a seawall at san francisco international airport and burst into flames. where does the investigation stand right now. >> reporter: the ntsb investigators got here last night from d.c., the night before last from d.c. they followed up with the california investigative team that was here. after the crash they helped secure the site to get the black boxes. the video of it coming in, amateur video. but it's a far distance away. we also know they are planning on talking with the crew. we reported that overnight tonight. the chairwoman of the ntsb confirmed that they plan on speaking with the pilot and crew.
>> coming into new airports, these pilots and airplanes fly all around the world. you want to make sure they can do it safely every time and safely the first time. a lot is focused on the crew's experience, how they work together. the way they communicate and divvy up their responsibilities. we are looking in to all of those things right now. >> reporter: she confirmed that 7 seconds before that plane was set to planned the crew did recognize they were coming in too slow and the time line from that point, that 7 seconds up until when they crashed there are a number of things that helped them different the ntsb the idea that this is something with the crew being knowledgeable of the problem. the first responders on the ground had to idea until that crash landing took place. gregg: we are seeing video of the actual crash for the first time, right? >> reporter: we have amateur
video that's come in from an area south of the airport. it looks from the little bay toward the runway. there are a number of hotels. you stay at the airport. but you can watch the planes come in. it shows it coming in low. pilots tell me it should have been 100-150 feet higher. it hit the jetty where the runway begins. it gives you of what the passengers went through and it was quite a ride. a number of them seriously injured. and we are getting little bit of good news. a few passengers were released from the hospital this morning. there are 25 by our count that are still in the hospital this hour. gregg: adam housley live at san francisco airport. thanks. heather: criticism for the
president's healthcare law. a panel calling it a slow-motion train wreck and another saying it requires matter rationale. let's listen. >> even democrats are saying implementing obama-care has the prospect of being a slow train wreck. this affects thousands of workers. not the millions of workers. so you couldn't even get this piece of it right after this 3-year rampup period to put in this tiny slice of obama-care? >> this is huge. employer mandate are by tar the toughest part of it. >> it's by no means the most complicated. heather: will fall care ever be fully implemented? the obama administration announced it's postponing the requirement that employers provide coverage or face fines.
argument being made was you can't delay the employer mandate without also delaying the individual mandate. if workers are required to have the coverage but businesses aren't required to provide it you are shifting the cost from employers to workers. that's according to the cato institute, do you agree? >> it might help explain why the obama administration quietly announced it won't be trying to verify who qualify for subsidies for obama-care premiums. they are going to say if you qualify for a check from the government for obama-care subsidies you will get one and they won't try to confirm your income or any on the per qualifications. that may be a way to he dozen people into the system. that's one of the main problems. the incentives aren't there for the number of young healthy people to sign up that are necessary to keep this thing from going into what the
actuaries call a death spiral. heather: right now the individual mandate is still in place and starting this october all individuals must get insurance or pay a fine. but as george will pointed out, the fine is 3-5 times less expensive than the insurance premiums. george will says they are not going to sign if you they can do elementary arithmetic which she can. he says the administration is counting on matter rationale. >> the beauty of the situation is there is no obama-care. what obama-care is is whatever the obama administration says it is today. they outsource all these decisions regardless of what the law says and regardless of what congress intended, regardless of the promises they made to get it passed. they say they will impose
whatever they want to impose whether they are required to by law or not. it's an arbitrary system where the healthcare bureaucracy gets to decide which laws will be even forced and which ones aren't. one of the ironies and political consequences of this is these moves in the last couple weeks, these arbitrary moves may doom immigration reform. one oone of the point the critif immigration reform are saying, if you can't trust the white house to do what the bill says it must do, how can you trust the white house to do what immigration reform requires. patti ann: the theory is the workers whose employers buy coverage through exchanges. but 27 state have not set up exchanges. so where does that go?
>> it's a good question. that was one of the interesting things about this panel. rick klein, the political director of abc is not a noted the critic of obama-care or arch conservative or libertarian. this was a canary in the coal mine moment. you can see the smarter and more per accept tough political analysts saying this thing is a slow-moving train wreck and it's only going to get worse from here. that's one of the reasons why they kicked some of this stuff past the 2014 elections because the democrats are starting to run scared from it. patti ann: we have a new fox poll. we asked how does obama-care make you feel about your healthcare in the future. last year 51% were worried. now it's 66%. 36% said they were reassures now
it's down to 23%. and some companies say they will cut their workforce. >> we saw it in the job numbers. the economy is undergoing a fundamental transformation where we see more and more employers -- it's one of the things george will was getting at talking about matter rationale. these employers are saying it will cost us an enormous amount of money to keep these people as full-time employees. let's hire fewer people and let's turn more of the people that we have hired into part-time workers so they don't qualify. what we saw was a massive explosion in the number of people in our economy getting paid to do part-time work when they wanted full time work. that's a problem, too. patti ann: jonah goldberg,
"national review." gregg: disaster north of the border. officials looking for victims of a massive train explosion in canada. five people confirmed dead and 40 others are still missing. that fiery blast in eastern quebec sparked when a train carrying crude oil derailed. it turned a town into an inferno. george zimmerman's legal team continuing to lay out their defense after the prosecution rested. did the prosecution prove their case against the defendant? if you would like to watch the trial it's streaming on foxnews.com.
the hours' long caravan began near the state capital in phoenix and went through the town of yarnell where the granite mountain hotshots died. the people of the town turning out to support the men who tried to save their houses. >> we are here to make sure we are here for them and their families to pay their respects. >> i want them to know how much we appreciate their sacrifice -- they are going to be remembered. >> none of it's easy. everybody knows it's a dangerous job and you can do it but you can never expect anything like that. >> thousands of people from across the state lined highways and overpasses in tribute. the men were killed when the fire they were fighting trapped them. the full survivor of the hotshots spoke out sunday. >> the community coming together means a lot. not only for the town but the nation coming together and i
want to say thank you and i love every one of you. patti ann: there are 100 hotshots unit in the united states. 13 in arizona alone. gregg: george zimmerman's defense presenting their side of the case to the yuri in what may be the final week of testimony at the second degree murder trial. the prosecution is cross examining one of zimmerman's friend. but as the defense's first full dave witnesses begins there are questions about whether the prosecution successfully proved its case. here are some highlights from the state's case. >> he said [bleep] following me around [bleep] then following me now. and i heard a bump. it was a bump to trayvon's headset.
>> you heard a bump? >> yes. >> what did you assume that was? >> the headset. i had told you what happened in the interview, are you listeni listening? >> are you refusing to come back tomorrow? >> to you? >> are you refusing to come back tomorrow. >> keep this question and answer about her testimony. any other matters dealing with scheduling i'll make that decision. >> the fact that george zimmerman said to you thank god i hope someone didn't videotape the whole event, what did that indicate to you? >> either he was telling the truth or he was a complete
pathological liar. >> let many look at overall. is there anything else in this case where you got the insight that he might be a pathological liar? >> no. gregg: the next day prosecutors convinced the judge to strike pathological liar from the record buff you can't unring that bell. some of the prosecution witnesses proved to be awful. they damaged credibility. and some were converted to good defense witnesses. do you think the prosecution proved it second degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt? >> my answer is no. i don't see the depraved at all certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt. i still see manslaughter as a
possibility. however this is a case that's in the summations that this prosecution has to lay it out so clearly because it's in the details of this case to get away from the easily seen per accepting that this is a case that the defense didn't have to do anything because the prosecution did it for them. but i think it's there fit' laid out in a way the jury can see it. gregg: judge you know there will be a jury instruction where the burden shift to the prosecution to disprove self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. >> that's right. all the defense has to does is raise self-defense by some point. then the prosecution has to disprove self-defense beyond every reasonable doubt. i don't believe they have done that. i don't think they have got it.
gregg: let me put up the florida statute on self-defense. the person is justified in deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself. that's a very subjective word. and standard, reasonable. >> the jury is also being told they have to at it from george zirmman's perspective and that of a reasonable person. look at the very first words he said after the shot. not he was killing me, i was about to die. he was beating me up and that to me, it all comes down to those few minutes. i argue those injuries are consistent with being knocked down and a good punch to the face. i think while he may have panicked it was because he was having the better of him.
>> i agree with a lot that ann is saying but under florida law you don't need to have any injury. you can imagine a situation where someone is coming through your window at night and you shoot them and there was no injury and it turns out to be a mistake. it was your daughter's boyfriend she invited over. it's a matter of reasonable perception. if the jury thinks he's right that he those could suffer serious bodily injuries. gregg: would you be tempted to grant the motion for a directed verdict of acquittal. >> that was a close call. but she could very well have granted it on second because of the ill will, spite and hatred not being connected to the act and let it go to the jury on manslaughter. that was a 50-50 call in my eyes. gregg: good to have you both
carry-on baggage. i feel lucky. i will fly again. maybe i need some time. gregg: her young son and fourth four other family members are still in the hospital, no word on their condition. patti ann: the political hot potato of immigration is topping the agenda of immigration. how close are the two sides? >> reporter: the house and senate are both back in town after a little break. lawmakers in each chamber with set to meet around 2:00 p.m. members of the house of representatives are already digging in for a big debate about immigration reform legislation. as you remember before they went away the senate passed a comprehensive immigration bill with 68 votes. although many republicans in the house think that bill is too
ambitious to accomplish anything. they instead prefer to go piece by piece. >> what the senate just passed was a bunch of candy thrown down there. assets to gain votes. without a me methodical smart border approach. >> reporter: democrats are predicting a deal will be made on immigration reform. >> when we do something at the border it should reflect what americans want us to do. they are saying fix the entire system. what you are finding is there will be a compromise, a smart compromise. >> reporter: the former president george w. bush came out in favor of immigration reform legislation. he said it's important he thinks to fix what he calls a broken
immigration system. he says he does think immigration reform legislation has a chance to become law. patti ann: later this morning president obama is going to make an announcement. what are you hear being that? >> we are hearing president obama will come out before a noonish cabinet meeting to announce he wants to use technology and apps to make the federal government run smoother and smarter and we'll hear from him exactly two hours from right now. gregg: some new questions about whether president obama need a political victory to jump-start a second term which has been mired by scan dealing. patti ann: egypt exploding in violence. troops firing on protesters killing dozen. we'll have the latest from cairo. looked nice?
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patti ann: a fox news alert. dozens dead and hundreds wound as the violence escalates in egypt. we are getting word of deadly clashes. at least 40 people said to be killed outside the republican guard building where morsi was first held last week. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's newsroom. i'm patti ann browne in for martha maccallum. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. there are reports that morsi supporters tried to storm the building firing from rooftops. patti ann: connor, what can you tell us so far? >> reporter: according to
various eyewitnesses, the muslim brotherhood was holding a peaceful sit-in demonstration they have been conducting the past few days at a site where they believe morsi is being held. they say they were attacked by terrorists who tried to storm the headquarters. 51 people have been killed. more than 300 have been injured. this is the type of violence that most people here are fearful will set off a larger clash across the country. it demonstrates how deep the divisions are. very little trust between the two groups. patti ann: what effect is today's violence having on the military-backed government? >> reporter: we are seeing the divisions went pro morsi and antimorsi groups. we are hearing that the islamic
party that's part of the opposition to former president martha maccallum, they have pulled out opresident -- -- pret mohammed morsi. they are struggling. this is a divide country. it doesn't break down along pro morsi and anti-morsi lines. they will struggle to find consensus in this country. neither side even within their own groups there is very little trust. gregg: at least 40 people have been killed today. some reports are mier saying 50 are dead in the latest clashes and that brings the totals to 150 people killed since june 30 when the protest began. 1,400 people have been injured.
patti ann: we are getting word that secret document related to the raid on barack obama's hideout have been wiped clean from the pentagon's computer and transferred to the cia. the cia says the ladies legitimate as the raid was conducted under their -- authority. gregg: thousands of protesters descending on the one star state capital as the state senate gets set to open a public hearing on what would be one of the most restrictive apportion measures in the state's history. rick perry confident the bill
will pass this time around after a similar bill face last month. >> we are going to support protecting life. after 20 weeks we are not going allow abortion in our states. we are going to make sure the health clinics are safe and under the safety standards any other surgical facility would be under and doctors have admitting procedure practices in place so they can look after someone if that procedure goes bad. gregg: the battle got heated last week. where does it pick up today? >> reporter: both side will be out in full force in austin today. there is a hearing before a senate committee. it will pick up this debate where it left off. it's not the quickest way to get this bill done. but governor rub perry is confident the supporters of this bill will proceed.
they have a 30-day window in which to get it done. >> this is going to pass. i'm good that counting votes. the support is overwhelmingly there in the house and senate. we'll get this done and get texas focused on the economic interests going on and creating jobs and leading the nation in job creation. >> reporter: he referred to the mob outbreak that happened, his word, last week when there were those who got vocal in house chamber and the senate as well. he said there will be measures in place to control the protesters and take them out if they get too rowdy. gregg: how are the opponents of this bill responding? >> reporter: they are calling on opponents of the bill to turn out in force for the special session. here is what the president of planned parenthood action fund
says. the decision to force yet another special session on legislation to virtually ban abortion is an affront to the thousands of texans who turned out in droves to oppose this at every turn. there is growing opposition to these attacks that endanger women's health and safety. planned parenthood filed suit against a similar measure in wisconsin. it goes into effect today. they join forces with the aclu to ask a federal judge to stop the law as it is set to go into effect. gregg: what would the texas bill do fit becomes law? it would restrict any abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. abortion clinics would have to be within 30 mills of a hospital and women seeking the abortion pill would have to go to the
clinic a second day instead of taking the pill home with them as they do now. patti ann: an incredible story coming out of the flight of asiana flight 214. including a man who said he knew something was wrong as soon as the plane starting coming in for a landing. >> you don't know if you are going to be dead the end of the motion. the plane stopped and the person to my left was heavily injured. he was unconscious. and for myself i was hurting but not too bad. i opened the door and the plane was cracked on the right-hand side. but we managed to open the doors. there were no slide. i could see debris. it looked like a piece of the wing. so i just told people we are okay, calm down, start getting
out. helping each other. patti ann: william lajeunesse is live in los angeles. 305 out of 307 survived. it's remarkable. what are we hearing today? >> reporter: the investigation is twofold. not only to determine the cause of this crash but to learn from it to make planes safer. if you look inside the plane you will see the stills. most of the seat are still upright. stronger seats, so they don't move, they don't collapse or pancake there are passengers are not crushed. the seat cushions and carpet are more fire retardant today. these changes came after two deadly aircraft fires in the 80s. and it's likely there will be lessons learned from this crash as well. >> this crash was able to keep the hull together. when the plane slammed onto the
ground and slid into its resting place. fit had tumbled or flipped around like a helicopter then there would have been a lot more loss of life. >> reporter: today there are two fatalities. for every 100 million passengers, you heard it before you are more likely to die on the way to the airport than on a flight. gregg: what went wrong in san francisco and what will investigators be zeroing in on? we'll talk to a former member of the national transportation safety board. patti ann: what is the white house to do with scandal overshadowing achievements? the president's popularity taking a dive in the polls. gregg: a man's desperate race to get his wife to the hospital after a porch collapse. what he says police did that could have cost his wife his
>> authorities in michigan say a natural gas leak may be to blame more that monthsive house fire and explosion in michigan. one man suffered minor injuries to his legs while two others -- a woman and baby managed to escape relatively unharmed. fire officials say that home will be taken apart in sections so investigators can determine exactly what happened. patti ann: the ntsb is investigating whether a pie lots inexperience may have led to the crash landing at the san francisco international airport. the ntsb chairwoman is pointing out there was more than one pilot onboard. let's talk with the chairman of
the omega systems group. the ntsb head says the analysis of the data indicates the plane was going way too slow as it approached the runway. the target landing speed 137 knots per hour. she says we are not talking about a knew knots. why may it have been going too slow. >> inexperience in the crew. there were four crew members aboard. two of them were in the cockpit. coming back to the cockpit itself there is never a single reason for an accident. but multiple reasons. in this one inexperience is one of them. but the miracle is the aircraft did have enoughality altitude when it did slide down to still get on the runway. if it had been a little bit
slower and lower everybody would have died and it would have impacted the jetty. so we have a lot to be thankful for. patti ann: 7 seconds before impact one of those four pilots said we need to speed up. 3 seconds later an alarm sounded warning you have to increase speed or you are going to stall. but at that point they did speed up about it was too little too late. 1.5 seconds before impact the crew asked to abort the landing. the pilot only made 9 landings, never at this airport. but one of the pilots had 4,000 hours on the 777. what about this copilot and the dynamics there? >> there are two pilots in two seats. two sights side by side in that aircraft.
one in the left seat is the man with little experience. but the other pilot we could call him the managing pilot because he's calling out all the indications of speed and altitude and everything else. so he's coaching the captain who is flying in the left seat. but at this point he evidently there might have been o other people in the jump seat hund this captain, that's a possibility. i don't know where the fourth pilot could have given any indication. however, as the managing pilot is calling these thing out. the senior pilot in the left seat should have taken more action than he did. patti ann: visibility is described as good so the pilots were doing a visual landing. we had a pilot on earlier who said the approach to this runway is difficult. when you have a sunny day and you are coming in over the water there is significant glare. would you agree with that?
>> i landed many times at sfo myself and it is over water. if the water is glassy it's hard to judge altitude, but those pilots are not looking at the ground any howe. they are they are paying ahengs to what the airplane is doing. the pilot in the right seat giving commands to him should have warned him earlier. he he did at the last minute and said let's abort about it was too late. patti ann: the glide slope indicator was turned off. how significant is that? >> that's not very significant. that's there for an ils approach under instruments. but this was a vfr, visual flight rule approach. they started out at 18,000 feet which is unusually high.
then they let the engines idle all the way down and they let them idle too long. if he had slid a bit more he would have hit that jetty head on and killed everybody. patti ann: you mention it was a lengthy flight. 14-17 hours. might fatigue have played a role? >> i rather think not. i think he was fresh enough. since he's a first-time pilot into sfo they were focusing on him getting the right experience. he was not an inexperienced pilot, but didn't have many hours in the 777. patti ann: thank you very much for joining us. gregg: what the president is doing this time and why once again he's not asking for permission from congress. that's next. the great outdoors...
patti ann: look who's back, former new york governor eliot spitzer returning to politics five years after a prostitution scandal drove him from office. the man identified as client number nine announcing he's planning a run for the new york city comptroller's job. he's funding his own campaign, it's expected to cost millions out of his own pocket. the democrat has until thursday to collect some 3700 signatures needed to get on the ballot. gregg: well, the obama administration is set to unveil a slew of new environmental regulations, but the new rules go far beyond the president's original plans for confronting climate change. they now cover everything from methane emissions in landfills to pollution runoff onboard military ships and will like lu
draw -- likely draw heavy scrutiny from lawmakers, advocacy groups and businesses alike. joining us now, steve moore with "the wall street journal." good to see you. >> hi, gregg. gregg: you call this economic strangulation by regulation. what do you mean? >> well, we're seeing a huge power grab almost unprecedented really in this administration, gregg, and, you know, if you look at the cost of regulation on the american economy, by some estimates a new study is out there that estimates about $1.5 trillion a year. now, these regulations you're talking about, many of them having to do with global warming, these are regulations that president obama tried to get through congress and failed, and now he's trying to do this through regulatory fiat. and that's why when you raised the issue about whether congress will be skeptical of these, they probably will and should be because this is an end run around congress. gregg: well, in some ways is
this president creating a fourth bran with. of government -- branch of government, the bureaucracy, and he's going to control that, and who needs congress? >> well, he certainly didn't create it, gregg, but we have created over the last 50 years a fourth branch of government which a lot of people think is unconstitutional. all the authority that is given to these non-elected bureaucrats who run government agencies whether it's the people at the national labor relations board or at the epa, and the function of congress is really to have oversight over these agencies and make sure they're not overstepping their bounds. now, the point i would make is in president obama's first term you may recall, gregg, he tried to pass a lot of these new regulations through congress. he tried to pass a cap and trade bill to deal with global warming. he couldn't do it through congress, so my point is this is a way of going around congress to get these rules made. gregg: well, these new epa regulations -- and there's a lot of them, i've got a whole long list of them here --
>> right. gregg: are they going to accomplish the desired effect? >> no. and here's the reason why. these are akin to large taxes on the american economy and especially american producers whether it's producers of electricity or manufacturers or transportation sector. and i believe and a lot of economists agree with me on this that the effect of in this will not be to reduce carbon emissions which is what these are intended to do, but rather to lose jobs and production in america and move it overseas to countries like china, india, mexico which, by the way, gregg, have worse environmental standards than we do. so the iron know of this, this may -- irony of this, this may lead to more emissions of carbon and methane into the environment than if we hadn't done these regulations. gregg: and higher costs for consumersesome. >> no doubt about that. the biggest concern is not so much prices, but they will be affected, it's jobs. a lot of people in the coal mining industry, a lot of people in the manufacturing sector, and
these are union jobs, by the way, gregg. very worried about what's going to happen to their job if we increase the prices and put, you know, one of the effects of this will be, essentially, to put coal mining out of business. gregg: all right. stephen moore, as always, thank you very much. >> thank you, gregg. gregg: in the meantime, new numbers showing president obama's approval rating has taken a serious dive since his re-election. coming up, we're going to speak with brit hume about what's really behind this decline. plus, the defense in the george zimmerman trial getting its first full day right now on the witness stand a former coworker of zimmerman. the trial is streaming in full on foxnews.com. out there owning it.
i started schwab for those people. people who want to take ownership of their investments, like they do in every other aspect of their lives. gregg: new questions about whether a big political victory is what president obama needs to jump-start a second term that seems at times mired in scandal and controversy. six months into his re-election in recent fox polls showing that his job approval is slipping. take a look at this. right now 51% say they disapprove of the job he's doing as president, 43% approve. that disapproval up 5% from december of 2012. that was right after his re-election. but now check out 2009. right after his first victory his approval then was 65%. brit hume is a fox senior political analyst. brit, good to see you. you know, presidents often see a
slide from their initial term. to what do you attribute this? >> well, what i'd say is, gregg, he doesn't have a great deal to sew for his second -- show for his second term. he got elected in spite of the economy which was weak, and unemployment was too high. the economy remains shaky, although perhaps in better shape, and unemployment remains high particularly in political terms. and let's remember this about the 2012 victory: while obama, the president won re-election in a convincing though not huge way, the president lost a majority of congressional districts. mitt romney won them which tells you why the house remains firmly in republican control and why the politics of the house of representatives within each district is different from the national picture. so when the president sets forth to accomplish something from his agenda, members of the house look at it not in national
political terms, but they look at it in local political terms. and in local political terms, things look very different. gregg: a democratic strategist is quoted as saying he needs wins, and he needs them soon. do you see any on the horizon? >> i don't. i think there's a possibility that he could bring some kind of immigration reform proposal off, but i think that at the moment looks like it's in very great jeopardy. he's going to take some environmental measures by executive order. it's not entirely clear how much he'll be able to accomplish that way. and whether that will improve his standing politically. the president has a problem. the country is not really left of center. it's kind of still a center-right country. he's managed to get elected in that atmosphere by virtue of his personal qualities which people admire and by a great turnout, you know, voter turnout effort particularly in 2012.
but he's got a congress, particularly the house, that remains unalterably opposed to much of what he wants to do, and the president would have to stray pretty hard from the people who worked so hard to elect him in order to propose something that could get by the republicans in the house of representatives. so it's a tough position. and it's a hard task. so far he's had trouble with it. understandably. gregg: you were talking about where the country is politically, and let's put up on the screen how the president is doing with independents. look at this. it's dropped in half. it's gone all the way from 66% of independents supporting him to 31%. brit, i wonder how much of that and his overall approval and disapproval ratings has to do with difficulties implementing what is in the minds of many americans still an unpopular law, obamacare? >> well, it's not only that,
your point is well taken, but it's also the fact that it's right in front of us now. we're hearing more about it. you know, they tried to make this announcement that they're going to postpone the enforcement of the employer mandate which is really a central feature of the legislation through 2014 so you won't, it won't have to be dope by the election, it won't be in process as the election is happening. but that didn't work very well. it got tremendous publicity anyway, and everybody who pays attention to as much things -- to such things will have heard about it, so the employers know it. it's a sign that the bill is, the implementation of the legislation is in some trouble. there's been a lot of difficulty with it. so what you have is an unpopular bill that is not being implemented effectively, and that ends up being kind of two strikes instead of just one. gregg: yeah. you know, it wasn't that long ago that democrats in congress were taking back the house in the midterm elections of 2014, next year. in fact, in may the president
said we've got a great chance to take back the house. how would you handicap that? >> where well, i think what's happened here is that the president won a convincing victory, one in which i think a lot of people, you know, i think a lot of people thought that race was closer than it turned out to be at the very end. and i think he feels like he won some huge landslide. and he overinterpretted his mandate. he did the same thing after the 2008 victory which was a big win, i think aided enormously by the economic meltdown that occurred in the fall right before the election which i think swamped the republicans' chances, and the president always sees things as a big opportunity for him. so he rams through this health care bill, and after passing that stimulus, he neglected the economy to some extent, got killed in the 2010 midterms. so 2012 rolls around, he wins election but so do all those republicans in the house, and
the president thinks he's got a huge mandate, and everybody better go along with him or he'll take back the house. well, the politics in the house just aren't the same. he doesn't seem to get that. or maybe he's getting it now. that's where the, that's the problem. and i think the chances of his, of republicans losing the house are pretty remote, although the republicans can screw things up for sure and have repeatedly, so, you know, they might screw themselves somehow -- [laughter] all other things being equal, it looks very unlikely that the democrats will regain control of the house. gregg: all right. brit hume, as always, thanks so much. >> you bet. patti ann: egypt on the brink. islamist supporters of an ousted president clash with soldiers with deadly results. meanwhile, is president obama's shifting stance -- first mubarak, then morsi -- doing more harm than good? we'll debate that, fair and balanced, coming up. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain.
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courtroom in the murder trial of george zimmerman, a coworker of his just left the witness stand, and she said there was no doubt in her mind it's the voice of george zimmerman crying out for help that is heard in the background of the 911 telephone call. of we have a new witness on the stand, this is a business friend who may well say the same thing. we're monitoring the developments inside this courtroom, and the trial is streaming in full on foxnews.com. ec check it out. you can check it out. patti ann: chaos and bloodshed on the streets of egypt as islamist supporters of the ousted president morsi clash with government troops. key lawmakers on capitol hill blasting the president's handling of the crisis saying he bet on the wrong side and that the president is sending the wrong signals. let's go now to senator john mccain who's calling for the u.s. to suspend the over billion and a half dollars in aid that it sends to egypt every year.
well, basically, that is what senator mccain had to say. and now let's talk to doug schoen, a former adviser to president bill clinton, and a former press aide to jack kemp and president of talk radio news service, both of them fox news contributors. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> great to see you. patti ann: ileana ros-lehtinen says the obama administration has bet on the wrong folks time and time again, first backing mubarak then abandoning him and supporting morsi. what is your take on the handling? >> i don't think it was ever a bad bet to support hosni mubarak who was not a perfect authoritative leader, but in a part of the world where we had strategic interests -- primarily the security of israel and making sure we adhere and egypt adheres to the camp david accord, i think we had no hois. so when president obama threw mr. mubarak under the bus during the arab spring where three to ten million people were taking
to streets of tahrir square, you saw us abandoning a lifelong ally there. in this case he was reluctant to morsi when you had 30 million egyptians going to tahrir square because the reality was mr. morsi never operated as a true democratic leader, and he violated the rights of a constitution, the supreme court over in egypt and also 70% of the countrymen he wanted to lead. remember, mr. morsi very quickly went from this kind of liberal moderate in the election to a very authoritative islamist, and actually at one point even tried to make sure the supreme court never could overturn any of his decisions. so the fact that the obama administration waited is long, sent signals that they backed morsi has led us to a point where i think doug would even agree no one likes, not democrats, not republicans, certainly not the vast majority of egyptians. patti ann: so, doug, what about that? did the country go out of the frying pan into the fire here in. >> well, look, we stand for democracy.
and mohamed morsi was elected democratically, but tony is right, he governed in an undemocratic way. we've been put in a position that critics are, unfortunately, right that we have appeared to be all things to all people. the islamists sa that we've abandoned the democratically-elected president, and those who are liberal reformers believe we were basically fair weather friends. now on the military aid issue, patti ann, i don't believe we can walk away from $1.5 billion in aid because, frankly, it gives us leverage over the country in a way that if we suspend it, we have no leverage. bottom line, we've got to work for a transition to democratic rule, we've got to support elections and most of all, an inclusive civil society. patti ann: tony, what about doug's point there? he was a democratically-elected leader overthrown by the military. his supporters call it a coup. morsi won by a very narrow margin only after several strong candidates were disqualified. and now, you know, his muslim
brotherhood government is moving rapidly, they were moving rapidly away from democracy, and people say it was the will of the people to oust him. but does this put president obama in a difficult position supporting what many call a coup? >> well, today don't want to call it a coup because if they did, it automatically would suspend the military aid that we send to egypt, and they've been careful not to do that. that aid is essential, but it has to be with strings attached. that's where the administration has completely failed. thai not gotten -- they've not gotten tough with morsi or the there, 1.3 billion we give to make sure these democratic reforms are put through to make sure israel is secure. nazis came to power through elections, and hitler was ratified as a chancellor. so was mussolini, so was franco. what you're seeing is the egyptian people and the military rallying to correct the revolution, much like the french revolution ending that reign of terror. you have to allow this process to happen because it's not a
perfect process. this is not like we're overturning a free election in the united states. this is a country that never had this process quite this way before. so you have to let them change horses because what you'll have otherwise, patti ann, is a very similar dynamic that we had in the '70s under carter where we oust the shah, but we bring in the ayatollah khomeini and his fundamental islamic government as part of the iranian revolution, and we're still paying that price. we have to let the egyptian people have the say in this. patti ann: so, doug schoen, your point about the aid giving us a seat at the table, your concern being that the situation in egypt impacts also on syria, israel, iran? >> absolutely, patti ann. and bottom line, if we are seen as impotent, which we certainly are seen in egypt, and we are unable to control events eventsn syria and unable to even get the parties in the arab/israeli process to the table and iran is moving towards developing a nuclear weapon, bottom line, we're seen as weak on the
defensive and ultimately defeated. unless we maintain whatever leverage we have in egypt and produce a democratic outcome in the way that tony was describing, bottom line, we all lose democrats, republicans, all americans. patti ann: doug, tony, thanks so much. >> thank you, patti ann. gregg: let's check in with jon scott for what's coming up on "happening now." hi, jon. jon: hey, gregg. three developing stories involving crashes, we're following. first, that asian that airliner crash landing in san francisco. new questions today about why the plane was coming in low and slow. and was there a problem with first responders? plus, another plane crash leaves ten dead in alaska. we have new details on that. and a train carrying crude oil derails and leaves a town in flames. forty people are still missing. at least five dead. what went wrong there? is it new ammunition for pro-keystone pipeline arguments? that's ahead, "happening now."
gregg: well, if you've got a long position in stocks, it's a pretty good day for investors on wall street. there you see the dow up about 117 points. based largely, we understand, on the recent spate of good economic news. the job numbers last friday, some manufacturing numbers and the dow is a couple hundred points shy of its all-time high, so we're keeping an eye on it for you. ♪ ♪ patti ann: an historic win at imp with l don -- wimbledon, defeating the world's number one
tennis player in an epic three-hour-long battle. he has become the first brit to win the men's singles title in over 70 years, and joining us now is jim gray, sports caster and fox news contributor. thanks for being with us. >> good to be with you, patti ann. patti ann: what's the atmosphere like there? >> well, i'm in yellowstone, montana, and it's beautiful there, but over in england, they haven't gone home yet. this will go down as one of the great athletic feats in history. he did it on 7/7, july the 7th, celebrating fred perry who did kit all those years ago -- did it all those years ago. when you think of what's gone on, this will rank amongst the likes of roger banister and nick faldo and mo ferrell, thompson, a great decat heat, lennox lewis who was born in great britain, is also a canadian citizen.
but the way he fought through this to do this in the heat, 104 degrees on center court, 104 degrees centigrade, 40 degrees centigrade, 104 degrees fahrenheit, it was just incredible. and the joy after having lost last year to roger federer, then he came back and won to olympics, beat fedderrer, came over to the united states, won the u.s. open in new york last summer. so now he holds two trophies and an olympic gold medal, and what this has done for great britain, cameron, the prime minister has gotten in touch, sent out a tweet congratulating him, the queen has sent over a message. this is a huge day for them. patti ann: yeah, very exciting. he was ranked number two in the world. he won gold at the olympic summer games in london, won the u.s. open, as you mentioned. still, how tough an opponent was joke vick? >> well, incredible. he's been on the top of his game for some time, and fedderrer went out early, and he was the defending champion. he has won 17 grand slams.
nadal went out in the first round which has never happened to him over in wimbledon, so the two best players met in the finals, and it was so gracious, the way that joke slip handled it yesterday at the end, and he fought so hard. he fought off three match points, almost came back. he's been known for coming back. and he has such a long match two days before in the semifinals, the longest semifinal match in wimbledon history, so he was exhausted. those two guys left everything out there, and it was so much fun to watch. you know, in sporting events when we get the finals, you know, sometimes there can be a letdown, a letdown -- [inaudible] championship, and now we've just seen a great nba championship, went down to the last game, and we see a great wimbledon final. and be this is what the fans want -- [inaudible] murray is an incredible story -- patti ann: all right.
>> he was involved insofar as he was in the building in scotland where he is from in the primary school where 17 people were killed very similar to what happened in columbine and sandy hook -- patti ann: right. sorry, but -- that was jim gray. i'm sorry to cut you off and, yes, it was a very compelling story about andy murray's childhood, but we're losing your signal. thank you very much for joining us through skype. gregg: maybe knighthood is in andy's future. patti ann: we'll see. gregg: too low, too slow, that's the early word on what may have caused flight 214 to crash. the ordeal leaving two people dead, nearly 200 hospitalized with injuries. we're live on the ground in san francisco with the latest on the investigation.
allowing them to exchange items for other team memorabilia. many fans say they can not support the former player in light of the murder charge against him. >> what were you thinking when you bought it, you know? why hernandez? >> just he was a good player. we were fans. we're fans of the team. we're fans of hernandez. unfortunately that wasn't so good. patti ann: aaron hernandez is charged with first-degree murder in the death after friend last month and under investigation for a unsolved double murder last summer. gregg: we're asureed tom sawer would approve of this. kids are spending time in the national tom sawer fence painting competition in hand any ball, mo. in his boyhood home. some are dressing the part. >> i thought it was amazing. i feel all famous since it is my
time. gregg: oh, yeah? this year's winner is 12-year-old tyler stevenson. his win the fourth year in a row a hand any ball native takes the top prize. "hannibal." wonder if they dressed up as becky thatcher, aunt polly. all those characters? patti ann: you sound like a fan gregg great writer. that will do it for us. "happening now" begins right now. >> we begin with brand new stories and breaking news. jenna: survivors of the deadly plane disaster in san francisco speaking out with details on the crash. a live report on the investigation just ahead. a pair of wildfires burning out of control and growing bit hour. the weather is quite frankly making the situation worse. where is that happening and what has officials concerned. policees
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