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02/16/17 02/16/17 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica, this is democracy now! pres. trump: i think it is very, very unfair what has happened to general flynn, the way he was treated in the documents and papers that were illegally -- i stress that, illegally leaked. very, very unfair. amy: days after the forced resignation of general michael flynn as national security advisor, more questions are being raised about the trump teams ties to russia before and after the november election. this comes as u.s. intelligence officials are now reportedly withholding sensitive information from the trump administration because they are
concerned it could be leaked or compromised. his donald trump at war with his own intelligence agencies? the intelligence community, they have six ways from sunday and getting back at you. so even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he is being really dumb to do this. amy: we will speak with glenn greenwald of the intercept. his most recent he's is headlined, "the leakers who exposed gen. flynn's lie committed serious -- and wholly justified -- felonies." all of that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. president donald trump on wednesday ended a longstanding u.s. commitment to the establishment of a palestinian state, saying he had no preference for either a one-state or two-state solution to the israeli-palestinian conflict. trump's comment came during a joint news conference at the
white house with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. pres. trump: looking at a two state and one state, and i like the one that both parties like. i'm very happy with the one that both parties like. i can live with either one. i thought for a while thethe two state looks like it might be the easier of the two, but honestly, , ifb and the palestinians israel and the palestinians are happy, i am happy with the one they like the best. amy: israel continues to annex palestinian lands to construct jewish-only settlements, leading many observers, including former secretary of state john kerry, to say a two-state solution may no longer be viable. but trump's remarks represented a break from twenty years of official u.s. support for a palestinian state. alongside israel. in the west bank, chief palestinian negotiator saeb erekat responded to president trump's comments. >> those who believe that they can undermine the two-state
solution and replace it with what i call one state, two systems, maintaining the status quo now, i don't think in the 21st century they will get away with it. amy: in a statement, the group jewish voice for peace said -- "today trump and netanyahu spoke of their shared values of democracy and respect for human rights. these are alternative facts. their 'shared values' are in reality a shared agenda of walls, militarism, xenophobia, racism, anti-muslim bigotry, and borders closed to refugees." on capitol hill, lawmakers are ratcheting up their demands for an investigation into alleged ties between senior aides to donald trump and russian officials. republican senator chuck grassley of iowa joined california democratic senator dianne feinstein wednesday in a letter to the justice department asking for transcripts of former national security advisor michael flynn's calls with the russian ambassador last
before trump's inauguration. december the call broke u.s. law and led to flynn's resignation on monday. at wednesday's press conference, president trump defended flynn. pres. trump: michael flynn, general flynn, is a wonderful man. i think he has been treated very, very unfairly by the media . as i called it, the fake media, in many cases. sad thing is a really that he was treated so badly. amy: trump's comments came a day after his press secretary sean spicer said the level of trust between the president and flynn had eroded to the point where trump had to demand flynn's resignation. "the wall street journal" is reporting u.s. intelligence officials are withholding sensitive intelligence from president trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised. "the new york times" is reporting trump is considering ordering a review of the nation's intelligence agencies led by stephen feinberg, a billionaire private equity
executive who is close to stephen bannon and jared kushner . the turmoil surrounding flynn's firing through an alarming, from the head of u.s. special operations command general raymond thomas, told military conference in maryland "our inernment continues to be unbelievable turmoil. i hope they sort it out soon because we are a nation at war." in moscow, kremlin officials denied any contacts with the trump campaign in the run-up to november's election. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov is meeting trump's newly minted secretary of state, former exxonmobil ceo rex tillerson, during talks in bonn today. tillerson is expected to confront lavrov over russia's annexation of the ukrainian province of crimea in 2014. meanwhile, russia's military has deployed a secret new group capable cruise missile violates a landmark 1987 arms reduction treaty the between the u.s. and
russia. that is according to the new york times, which reports the new weapon threatens to derail any future arms treaties with russia and has the pentagon considering whether to develop medium-range cruise missiles of its own. meanwhile, the u.s. navy says it is tracking a russian intelligence vessel that has come within 30 miles of the coast of connecticut. the ship appears to be spying on u.s. submarine base. fast food ceo andrew puzder has withdrawn his nomination as labor secretary one day before his confirmation hearing was set to begin. puzder was facing increasing criticism for reports of widespread sexual harassment at his chain restaurants, as well as labor and safety violations. he's also under fire for allegations of domestic violence against his ex-wife, who even appeared on the "the oprah winfrey show" in disguise in 1990 to speak about being abused. the website politico published video of the appearance on wednesday.
>> the most frightening thing was leaving because once i made that break and once i made it public -- remember, my ex-husband was a public figure. everyone knew him and knew what he was doing. once i made that public, he vowed revenge. he said, i will see you in the gutter. you will pay for this. i wound up losing everything. amy: vermont independent senator bernie sanders praised puzder's decision to step down, saying -- "we need a secretary of labor who is going to fight to raise the minimum wage to a living wage of $15 an hour and pay equity for women. we don't need a labor secretary who makes millions while his workers are paid starvation wages." cnn is reporting the pentagon is considering a plan to deploy ground troops to syria. the u.s. has already authorized up to 500 special operation forces in syria, but the pentagon plan under consideration would allow for a large conventional force.
the president trump has given defense secretary james mattis until the end of the month to come up with a plan to fight isis. in yemen, a pair of u.s.-backed saudi-led coalition airstrikes ripped through a funeral reception overnight, killing eight women and a child. witnesses say a second airstrike targeted emergency workers responding to the initial attack. this is survivor hameed aly. >> the people are still looking under the rubble, like you see. each one is looking for their child or sister. this all happened from the bombing. there are nine victims and they're still searching for more. there are dozens of injured in the hospital. amy: the saudi-led coalition battling yemen's houthi rebels has the support of the united states. the united nations warns the bombing campaign and naval blockade has devastated yemen's
infrastructure and has left 12 million people facing the threat of famine. in iraq, a suicide bomber in a pickup truck detonated in baghdad's sadr city wednesday, killing at least 15 people and wounding 50 others. there was no immediate claim of responsibility, but isis has claimed similar attacks targeting shi'ite communities in recent months. in malaysia, police have arrested a third suspect in the apparent assassination of the estranged half-brother of north korean leader kim jong in. kim jong nam said he was sprayed in the face at the airport. he became disoriented from the poisoning and suffered a seizure before dying en route to a nearby hospital. kim jong nam was the eldest son of former ruler kim jong-il.
he became estranged from north korea's ruling dynasty in 2001 after he was caught using a forged passport to enter japan, where he told officials he hoped he became estranged from north south korean officials believe the north korean regime long sought to assassinate kim. in texas, agents with immigration and customs enforcement, or ice, entered the el paso county courthouse last week in order to arrest an undocumented woman who had gone to court seeking a protective order against her alleged domestic abuser. county attorney jo anne bernal said wednesday she fears the move sets a precedent that will see undocumented survivors of domestic assault stay with their abusers, rather than risk deportation and separation from their families. meanwhile, in denver, colorado an undocumented mother of four , sought refuge in a church after ice officials denied her wednesday request to remain in the country. jeanette vizguerra skipped a scheduled check-in with ice
officials and instead brought her family to the first unitarian society church where , she addressed supporters. >> is the system thinks it can break me, this system is wrong because you can see the reason behind me, why i am fighting so hard to win my case. and i know that i am not alone. there are many people in the community and in immigrant community's who share my anger and my passion for justice. amy: vizguerra came to the u.s. from mexico in 1997. she previously won five postponements of deportation, but said wednesday she doubts she could win a similar reprieve under the trump administration. in washington, d.c., the senate is expected to narrowly confirm congressman mick mulvaney as head of the white house budget office. mulvaney is a tea party republican from south carolina who is opposed by the entire
senate democratic caucus. after mulvaney's confirmation vote, the senate is scheduled to take up the nomination of oklahoma attorney general scott pruitt to head the environmental protection agency. democrats are calling for a delay on the vote while a court decides whether to force pruitt's office to turn over email communications with coal, oil and gas companies. , meanwhile, republican senator susan collins of maine said wednesday she'll vote against pruitt. but the defection won't be enough to derail his confirmation, and senator joe manchin of west virginia has said he'll become the lone democrat to vote in favor of pruitt. the front runner to become science advisor to president trump called climate scientists a glassy-eyed cult and falsely accused the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration of manipulating climate data. princeton university physicist william happer made the remarks in an interview published wednesday by the guardian, saying -- "there's a whole area of climate
so-called science that is really more like a cult. it's like hare krishna or something like that. they're glassy-eyed and they chant." happer supports prohibiting federally-funded scientists from communicating their findings to the public. the standing rock sioux tribe has filed a fresh legal challenge to the dakota access pipeline, asking a federal judge in washington, d.c., to block an easement allowing construction on the final leg of the $3.8 billion project. tuesday's lawsuit came a day after a judge threw out a separate legal challenge calling for a temporary restraining order against construction. the legal fight came as a top executive with the company building the dakota access pipeline on wednesday compared his opponents to terrorists. in a written statement submitted to congress, energy transfer partners executive vice president joey mahmoud accused water protectors of violence,
and blasted them for shutting down pipeline pumping stations. mahmoud wrote -- "had these actions been undertaken by foreign nationals, they could only be described as acts of terrorism." in medical news patients' , advocates have launched legal challenges to patents on hepatitis c drugs in india and argentina, saying pharmaceutical companies are profiting from monopoly prices that leave millions unable to afford life-saving medications. in a statement, medicines sans frontiers, or doctors without borders, said -- "there are 80 million people worldwide living with hepatitis c, and we need a wide range of combination treatments available at an affordable price. with patents blocking generic competition, treatment remains prohibitively expensive in many countries." and investigative journalist jeremy scahill has canceled a -- his appearance on "real time
with bill maher" after the hbo program scheduled white nationalist and breitbart news editor milo yiannopoulos to appear on the same episode. in a statement, scahill said -- "there is no value in debating him. appearing on real time will provide yiannopoulos with a large, important platform to openly advocate his racist, anti-immigrant campaign. yiannopoulos's appearance could also be used to incite violence against immigrants, transgender people, and others at a time when the trump administration is already seeking to formalize a war against some of the most vulnerable people in our society." jeremy scahill is co-founder of the intercept and a former producer and correspondent with democracy now! and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. nermeen: welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. we turn now to look at the growing scandal over the trump administration's alleged dealings with russia before and after the november election.
there have been a number of developments in the past 24 hours. "the wall street journal" is reporting u.s. intelligence officials are withholding sensitive intelligence from president trump because they are concerned it could be leaked or compromised. "the new york times" is reporting trump is considering ordering a review of the nation's intelligence agencies led by stephen feinberg, a billionaire private equity executive who is close to stephen bannon and jared kushner. meanwhile, trump has publicly defended michael flynn who resigned monday as national security advisor after admitting he gave vice president mike pence and others incomplete information about his calls with the russian ambassador in december. trump spoke about flynn during his press conference with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. pres. trump: michael flynn -- general flynn is a wonderful man. i think he is been treated very, very unfairly by the media. as i call it, the fake media in
many cases. i think it is really a sad thing that he was treated so badly will stop i think in addition to , papersom intelligence are being leaked. it is criminal action. a criminal act. it is been going on for a longtime before me. but now it is really going on. and people are trying to cover up for a terrible loss that the democrats had under hillary clinton. i think it is very very unfair what has happened to general flynn, the way he was treated, and the documents and papers that were illegally -- i stress that -- illegally leaked. very, very unfair. amy: trump's comments came just a day after white house press secretary sean spicer said trump had lost faith in flynn. >> this was an act of trust. whether or not he actually misled the vice president was
the issue. that was ultimately what led to the president asking for and accepting the resignation of general flynn. that is it. it was a matter of trust. nermeen: while congressional democrats and some republicans are pushing for probes into trump's ties to russia, trump has focused largely on going after those who have leaked information to the press. in a tweet this morning trump , wrote -- "the spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! they will be caught!" on wednesday, trump indirectly accused the nsa and fbi of being behind the leaks. he wrote -- "information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community. nsa and fbi? just like russia." amy: some supporters of trump, including breitbart news, have accused the intelligence agencies of waging a deep state coup against the president. meanwhile some critics of trump are openly embracing such activity. bill kristol, the prominent
republican analyst who founded the weekly standard wrote on twitter -- "obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. but if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the trump state." to help make sense of what's happening, we are joined by pulitzer prize winning journalist glenn greenwald, co-founder of the intercept. his most recent piece is headlined, "the leakers who exposed gen. flynn's lie committed serious -- and wholly justified -- felonies." glenn, welcome to democracy now! explain what you mean. >> there is no question that whoever leaked the contents of general flynn's telephone calls with the russian ambassador another russian diplomat committed what the law regards as extremely serious crimes. as we all know from the last eight years under president obama, the u.s. government treats it as a criminal act, a felony, to leak information that is deemed classified.
in the scheme of what is regarded as criminal in terms of leaks, the most serious or one of the most serious bits of information that can be leaked is what is called signals intelligence, or information gathered by the nsa or cia or other intelligence agencies in terms of eavesdropping on foreign governments. that is exactly what got leaked, information at the nsa and the ia say they gathered as a result of targeting russian officials with eavesdropping. and along the course of that use dropping, they happened here general flynn's conversations with those russian officials. that is what they claim. are claiming is true, immense a leaking of this information is considered a very serious felony. in fact, the losses it is not just whoever leaks signals intelligence is guilty of a felony, but anyone who publishes it, too. there radically, makes "the "thengton post" and
times" guilty of a felony. is a the statute, it crime. the question becomes, if it is criminal, is it justified? hady view, the same view i for the eight years under president obama and for the years before that under president bush, which is that people inside the government who leak classified information that the public has a right to know quite even if they are breaking the law, are acting commendably and justifiably and heroically and those people ought to be celebrated and treated as people defending democracy and transparency and not be treated as criminals. unfortunately, democrats have had a completely different view of people who leak classified information. the tweet you just read from president trump saying, whoever
leaked this information are lowlife leakers who deserve to be punished -- that sounds very, very, very similar to everything i have heard from most democrats over the last eight years as they call for the imprisonment of chelsea manning and thomas straight and edward snowden in the long list of other whistleblowers and leakers that president obama so aggressively convicted fairly -- vindictively prosecuted. but when an official a senior is general flynn lies to the public , which is what he did, denied publicly that he discussed the issue of sanctions with the russian ambassador in his december phone call, information that shows he lied, information even though i think the are grave concerns that i hope we will discuss in terms of what the deep state is doing in trying to destroy the trump administration that was elected, in this particular case, whoever leaked this information helped the public to understand and to
learn exactly how general flynn lied. therefore, this fighting a legal -- highly illegal -- i think it is also wholly justified. tomeen: i want to turn something nsa whistleblower edward snowden said to you nearly three years ago when he first spoke out against nsa abuses. >> any analyst at anytime can target anyone. where those communications will be picked up depends on the range of the sensor networks and the authorities at that analyst is empowered with, which not all have the ability to target everything. but i sitting at my desk certainly have the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if i had a personal email. nermeen: glenn, can you talk about that in the response was received to the leaks of edward snowden compared to now, the leaks of intelligence officials now? of then the question
eavesdropping powers of the nsa ofrevealed by the intercept general flynn's communications, we don't actually know for certain what the methodology was that was used to eavesdrop on him. to the nsa legally pursuant a pfizer award targeting general flynn as part of an investigation, either in a new challenges investigation or law enforcement investigation conducted by the fbi? were they, as they claim, only doing routine surveillance on officials of it never sorry country -- in this case, russia -- and coincidentally and by accident happen to catch the conversation that general flynn was having with those target of the surveillance in moscow? we don't know. but what this does illustrate is, let's assume for the moment the nsa and the cia for once are telling the truth and the way they eavesdropped on general flynn was not by targeting him, but targeting the russians with
him he was to mitigating. with this revealed something -- when the edward snowden story first broke in the debate around the world was triggered, the u.s. government kept saying over and over, if you are an american citizen, we cannot listen in on your calls unless we first get a warrant from the court. therefore, there's nothing after worry about. that was a very warped sort of thing to say because that meant for 95% of the world were called non-americans, the government was saying, oh, for you, you have no protections. we can listen in on your calls at any time without getting a judge to approve -- which is true. that is one of the reasons people all over the world outside of u.s. were so horrified to learn of what the nsa was doing. but the more important point is, when the u.s. government was saying, it is false. the u.s. government constantly use jobs on the telephone calls of american citizens without getting a warrant of any kind, despite with the constitution requires and that is because the law that was enacted in 2008
called the fisa amendment act with president obama's approval that she was a senator at the time and voted for it -- authorizes u.s. government to listen in on americans calls with no warrant as long as they are talking to someone outside the united states for the government says they are targeting. that is what the episode shows. they were able to listen in on general flynn's calls with no warrant because they say they were targeting someone with whom he was communicating. as far as the reaction is concern in terms of how edward snowden's leaks were received versus this leak, it is like night and day. i have not yet heard not one democrat condemn the leakers inside the cia were intelligence community who leaked signals intelligence and in the process, alerted these russian officials to the fact their communications have in -- been. they told these russian officials, we have successfully
penetrated your communication systems and you can be sure they are now in response, fortifying the cubic a show and that they used in blocking out the nsa and cia. there was probably harm done by whoever did this leak. i have not heard one democrat condemn it as criminal or say there should be an investigation to find these leakers and put them in prison for violating the law. yet all i heard from democrats -- not all i heard because there were many who supported manning and snowden and drake, but certainly democratic officials in d.c. were almost unanimous under obama in saying that leaks, leakers should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, that they are traitors. chelsea manning spent seven years in prison under harsh conditions for leaking information way less sensitive than what these leakers about general flynn just leaked. yes, president obama q muted person its, but not only after she was imprisoned under conditions the u.n. said was basically torture a capture in
prison for seven years, even though there was no harm demonstrated from anything she leaked. what democrats seem to think it's, leaks under president if it shows high-level people are corrupt, the leakers should be thrown until. leaks under president trump, by contrast, are you wrote and noble and we should celebrate the people who are doing that. and oppose any effort to hunt them down and investigate them and find them and punish them as president trump is vowing to do. the reality is, whistleblowers are very valuable part of our democracy. they should be cherished and protected, regardless of which party controls the white house. nermeen: what about the republican response? you've talked about the democratic party response, but how did the republican party, for the most part, respond to the stone leaks versus -- snowden leaks versus what has happened now?
>> ironically, the republican response has been consistent. consistently heinous, but consistent. ,here were a few republicans usually some outliers of the republican party like rand paul, people from the libertarian wing, who were somewhat supportive of the snowden leaks. it overall, the republican establishment was contemptuous of stone. mike pompeo, the former republican congressman who is now donald trump's chief at the cia, called for edward snowden's execution. donald trump himself called for snow and's execution. lindsey graham and john mccain, marco rubio come all called edward snowden a traitor. so in some sense, they're consistent because they are saying the same thing, which is whoever leaked this information ought to be investigated, hunted down, and punished to the fullest extent of the law --
which is more or less what they said about whistleblowers under president obama. it is the democrats who have completely switched their position, as they so often do, the minute the party controlling the white house changed. amy: we're going to go to break. we will come back to this discussion and also talk about what happened at the white house yesterday with the netanyahu -trump meeting and so much more. we're speaking with journalist glenn greenwald, one of the intercept. his piece, "the leakers who exposed gen. flynn's lie committed serious -- and wholly justified -- felonies." stay with us. ♪ [music break]
amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. we are looking at the growing scandal over the trump administration's alleged dealings with russia before and after the november election. in early january, democratic senator chuck schumer appeared on the rachel maddow show and suggested the intelligence
community may try to get back at donald trump. >> you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from sunday and getting back at you. so even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman coming he is being really dumb to do this. any code that was chuck schumer in january. some supporters of trump including breitbart news, are accusing the intelligence agencies of attempting to wait a deep state to against the president. meanwhile, some critics of trump are openly embracing such activity, like bill kristol, the prominent republican analyst. he wrote on twitter -- still with us, kill its are prize-winning journalist glenn greenwald of the intercept eking to us from rio de janeiro, brazil. explain what the deep state is an respond.
>> the deep state, although there is no precise or scientific definition, generally refers to the agencies in washington that are permanent power factions. they say an exercise power even as presidents who are elected come and go. they typically exercise their power in secret, in the dark. so they are barely subject to democratic accountability if there subject to it at all. it is asian's like the nsa and other intelligence -- it is agents like the cia and nsa and other intelligence agencies that are centrally designed to disseminate disinformation and deceit of propaganda and avalon history of doing not only that, but also have a long history of the world's worst war crimes, atrocities, and death squads. this is not just people like bill kristol, but a lot of democrats are placing their faith in, trying to empower, are cheering for as they exert power separate and apart from -- in
fact, in opposition to the political officials to whom they're supposed to be subordinate. this is not just about russia. you go all the way back to the campaign and what you saw was leading members of the intelligence community, including mike merle who was the acting cia chief under president obama, and michael hayden who ran both the cia and the nsa under george w. bush, were very outspoken supporters of hillary clinton. in fact, michael morel went to "the new york times" and uncle hayden went to "the washington post" during the campaign to praise hillary clinton and say donald trump had become a recruit of russia. the intelligence community work in support of hillary clinton and opposed to try from the beginning because they liked hillary clinton's policies better than they like donald trump's. one of the main priorities of the cia for the last five years has been a proxy or in syria
designed to achieve regime change with the al-assad regime. hillary clinton was not only for that, she was critical of obama for not allowing it to go further and wanted to impose a no-fly zone in syria and confront the russians. donald trump took the opposite view. he said, we should not care who rules syria. we should allow the russians and even help the russians kill isis and al qaeda and other people in syria. trump's agenda that he ran on was completely antithetical to what the cia wanted. clinton's is what the cia wanted, so they were behind her. they have been trying to undermine trump for many months throughout the election. now that he won, they're not just undermining him with leaks, but actively subverting him. there are claims they are withholding information from him on the grounds they do not think you should have it and to be trusted with it. they are empowering themselves to enact policy. i happen to think the trump presidency is extremely dangerous. you just listed off in your
newscast that led the show, many reasons. they want to eliminate the safety net, empower billionaires, and act bigoted policies against muslims and so many others. it is important to resist them and there are lots of really ways -- great ways to resist them. having the democratic party engage to ask itself how to be a more effective political force in the united states after his collapse at all levels. that is not what is resistance is now doing. what they're doing is trying to take maybe the only faction worse than donald trump, which is the deep state, the cia with its histories of atrocities, and say that almost ought to engage in a soft coup with a prevent the elected president from enacting his policies. i think that is extremely dangerous. even if you're someone who
believes both the cia and the deep state on the one hand in the trump presidency on the other hand are extremely dangerous, as i do, there is a huge difference between the two, which is that trump was democratically elected. on the other hand, the cia was elected by nobody. they are barely subject to democratic controls at all. so to urge the cia and the intelligence community and power is self to undermine the elected branches of government is insanity. that is a prescription for destroying democracy overnight in the name of saving it and that is what so many, not just neocons, but the neocons allies of the democratic party are urging and cheering and it is incredibly worked in dangerous to watch them do that. "the wall street journal forcing intelligence officials are not getting president trump all of the information because they're concerned about what he will do with it, not to mention intelligence agencies of other
countries deeply concerned about what trump will do with it, particularly, concerned about what he might share with russia? , there is immediate issue here which is in you look at "the wall street journal" report it is pretty much exactly the same as any other significant report about russia over the last six months, many which have been proven to be completely false. it is based on anonymous officials making extremely vague claims. even the paper says, we do not know who is withholding information or how much is being withheld. secondly, the idea that donald trump is some kind of an agent or spy of russia or that he is being blackmailed by russia and is going to pass secret information to the kremlin and in danger american agents on purpose is an incredibly crazy claim that has nowhere been proven to be true. it reminds me of the kind of things glenn beck used to say about obama while he stood at
his chalkboard andrew those unstable charts that he true. these wild conspiracy theories that are without evidence. we ought to have a serious, sober a structured investigation of the claims that russia hacked the dnc and john podesta z mills and that there were improper ties between donald trump in the russians and that ought to be made public so that we can see the information. but his constant media obsession of leaking whatever someone whispers to them about donald trump and russia because they know it will get the reporters huge numbers of retweets on twitter and tons of traffic by people who are being fed by what they want to hear is really feeding into the worst kind of hysteria and even the fake news that the media says they're trying to combat. these are serious claims that merit serious investigation. intercept, one of your colleagues writes -- "if in fact all of this is
nonsense, trump has the power as president to make that clear immediately by declassifying all government intercepts of communications between russian nationals and anyone in his orbit." do you think that trump ought to be doing that? >> i mean, it is an interesting point because, for example, there have been lots of claims made about the communications that general flynn had with russian diplomat and what these transcripts supposedly reflect, yet no one has seen the transcripts. we assume bits and pieces, but not the whole transipt. we ought to see the whole transcript. my colleagues who wrote that peace is right. it is within president trump's power to order it instantly declassified. there is no review of that decision. then it could be made public. on the other hand, it is really bizarre, just as a reporter who is been in the middle of a controversy for the last four years about the leaking of classified information, to hear
people suggest that the president now ought to take the most sensitive intercepts that the government is capable of obtaining, which is how they eavesdrop on russian officials inside the kremlin, and just toss them to the public like there is no problem at all with doing that. i think what you are seeing is this really disturbing double standard that all we have heard since the war on terror is that classified information is sacred and anyone who leaks it is treasonous and satanic and belongs in jail for a really long time. now classified information seems to be something that is just a plaything, something we toss around for fun. if it serves a certain agenda. i think that is one of the issues that is bothering me about the way this discourse is on -- unfolding. amy: we're going to go to break and ask about the trump-netanyahu's conference and we want to talk about yemen and the news the pentagon is
amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. on wednesday, president donald trump ended a long-standing u.s. commitment to the establishment of a palestinian state saying he had no preference for either a one state or two state solution to the israeli-palestinian conflict. trump's comments came during the news conference at the white house with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. trump that we have a two state and one state, and i like the one that both parties like. i'm very happy with the one of both parties like. i can live with either white.
i thought for a while the two state looked like it may be the easier of the two, but honestly, if bb and the palestinians, if israel and the palestinians are happy, i and happy with the one they like the best. as far as the embassy moving to jerusalem, i would love to see that happen. we are looking at a very, very strongly. we are looking at it with great care. great care, believe me. we will see what happens. ok? nermeen: that is president trump speaking yesterday at a joint news conference with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. glenn, could you respond to that and what the significance is of trump suggesting significant massive change to many, many years of a u.s. policy on this? >> so i guess my question first the extent to which it really is such a massive change in u.s.
policy. it is a huge departure rhetorically from what the u.s. government has had for decades, which is that their policies, there ought to be a two state solution. the reality though, as any honest person involved in this conflict or who watches it admits, is that the two state solution has been dying in effect, probably dead for many years. it is just that nobody wants to admit it. if you look at a map, it is honest impossible to see where a separate palestinian state in the west bank can be created heaven the growth of settlements under prime minister netanyahu. growth, which, by the way, the u.s. not only did not stop, but as added by shoveling israel with money, with weapons, with all kinds of diplomatic support as they were expanding those settlements. yes, they objected occasionally and rhetoric, but in action, never did. i think a two state solution is something we are all eager not to give up on because the
alternatives are both so bad. but the reality is that in israel, there is an erosion of support for the two state solution. there are high-level members of prime minister netanyahu's cabinet who explicitly oppose it. the reality is that because of the course israel has taken, the only heat up options that are real -- essentially, what donald trump in his own kind of stumbling, inept, ignorant way was getting at -- the only two options are, have israel become an apartheid state where a minority of jews have political rights and control a country in which a majority of citizens have no political rights, exactly like was true of apartheid south africa, or have one state in which all citizens have little right in which case israel would no longer exist as a jewish state. neither of those options are good ones, but that is the course israel is taking and what trump is saying is essentially andhe u.n. israelis
palestinians what a certain solution, we of the united states are not going to prevent them from doing that. what is worrying is donald trump is empowering some of the worst extremists in the world when it comes to is really policy. his son-in-law who is in charge of it is a supporter of some of the hardest settlement in the west bank and congress is taking up this week's nomination of a hard-core pro-settlement lunatic to be the u.s. ambassador to israel. justice warning, five ambassadors, former ambassadors to both parties came out in a posting on the grounds he is essentially insane. i think there's a dangerous tilting toward extremist in israel on the part of the trump administration, but the two state solution has really only existed in rhetoric for long time. on some level, a lot of supporters of the palestinian rights think it is a good thing to finally have that mission that a two state solution is not really possible anymore because of israeli behavior.
amy: during wednesday's press conference, president trump was asked about the anti-semitic attacks and vandalism across the u.s.. trump responded by boasting about his election victory. mr. president, even after your victory, we have seen a sharp rise in anti-semitic incidents across the united states. i wonder what use does he say across the jewish state and around the world who believe your administration is playing xenophobia and maybe racist tones? pres. trump: we're very honored by the victory that we had. 306 electoral college votes. we were not supposed to crack 220. you know that, right? but they said, there is no way to 270.
there is tremendous enthusiasm out there. i will say, we are going to have peace in this country. we're going to stop crime in this country. we are going to do everything within our power to stop long simmering racism and every other thing that is going on. there -- a lot of bad things have been taking place for a long period time. we have a very, very divided nation. very divided. hopefully, i will be able to do something about that. something that was very important to me. as far as people -- jewish people, so many friends, a daughter who happens to be here right now, a son-in-law, and three beautiful grandchildren. i think you're going to see a lot different united states of
america over the next 3, 4, or eight years. i think a lot of good things are happening will stop you're going to see a lot of love. a lot of love. ok? thank you. amy: "a lot of love" said president tom will trump. this is netanyahu responding to the question as well. >> i've known president trump for many years. and to allude to him or to his people, his team, some of whom too,known for many years, can i reveal, jeered, how long i've known you? he was never small. he was always it. he was always tall. i've known the president and i have known this family and his team for a long time. there is no greater supporter of the jewish people and the jewish state than president donald
trump. i think we should put that to rest. amy: after the news conference, the anti-defamation league tweeted -- "troubling that potus failed to condemn real issue of u.s. today." in us your response? >> i was on your show back in the campaign back in march or april as it was increasingly toely that trump was going be the nominee. remember saying, i thought one of the most dangerous parts of the trump rise and trump victory would not necessarily be on the policy level where there are functional checks on what he can do -- as we saw with the court unanimously striking down his muslim ban -- but what was more dangerous, potentially, worthy factions inside the united states that he was galvanizing and empowering -- namely, racist, anti-muslim, anti-semitic factions that have
been more or less muted and almost embarrassed to be out in public who now feel as though they have been given license to express some of the worst sentiments that human beings are capable of creating. so whether or not people inside the white house like steve bannon or stephen miller or justs are over racists or trivialized and play with those scenes in order to gain advantage, i continue to think that is probably one of the greatest dangers, if not the greatest danger, that he is emboldening that kind of hatred and stoking it and encouraging resentments among people and targeting the most honorable groups, which it -- vulnerable groups, which in history is a dangerous thing to do. you see in his answer, how you jewish son-in-law and daughter and grandchildren and now is going to produce love, this complete contempt for this notion that this is a serious concern in the kind of rhetoric
that he and his closest advisors bringn braced really does with it the serious danger of unleashing these kinds of forces . he is just in denial about that fact. nermeen: i want to ask about yemen. you have written recently on the attack by u.s. command -- commandos on the yemeni village last month that left 25 civilians and one u.s. soldier dead. among those killed was anwar al-awlaki's daughter. the bureau of investigative journalism reports the assault killed nine children under the age of 13 with five other children wounded. glenn, -- amy: we have the latest is that just came out from the ap, the main figure killed in last month u.s. raid in yemen targeting al qaeda was the tribe leader who
u.s. andd with the saudi backed president and had been enlisted to fight yemen shiite rebels. durango right. among this people critical of the raid in which so many were killed, including civilians, was arizona republican senator john mccain. you lose $75 million airplane, warm portly, and you wounded, i dond not believe you can call it a successful's success. out.sean spicer lashed i think anyone who would suggest it is not a success is doing a disservice to the life of chief ryan owens. he fought doing what was as they what was atsion -- stake in that mission.
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