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tv   Full Measure With Sharyl Attkisson  CBS  November 23, 2015 1:00am-1:30am CST

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begin with the spread of terrorism five years after the arab spring. attacks are happening around the world and there is heightened concerned for the potential for more. isis is seen as the principal focus, a once -- spot once held by al qaeda. 2014 saw a record 16,800 global terrorist attacks. several months ago, we began work to trace the global threat of terrorism since the uprising known as the arab spring starting in 2010. instead of resulting in a democratic revolution, the upheaval created the kind of chaos and vacuum that allowed terror to grow and thrive. correspondent scott thuman landed in beirut the day of two massive attacks by isis. scott: it is one of the last places you might imagine rooting for. a country steeped in a violent
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history often atll with america where flags of terrorism fly in the seets and banners of assassinated leaders drape on buildings. stability in lebanon helps keep america safe, too. especially after this. suicide bombers hit beirut, killing dozens, wounding hundreds. retaliations against the lebanesey hezboboah .scott: -- days laterisis unleash an attack on ris. >> i'm in shock. my family, all my friends who were there. scott: while it is easy to relala to what happens in france, those were the first -- the americans should care just as much about what happens in beirut. >> the dysfunction. scott: what could that mean in
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>> they could find a safe haven in some places in lebanon and act w wh impunity and try to recruit more youngsters, brainwash them, ph them to commit more suicidal attacks. scott: a lebanese political analyst and acvist said if this sounds familiararit should. the so-called arab spring that began five years ago was bouldering austin is him -- optimism from tunisia to libya to egypt, denounci leaders like gaddafi and mohamed morsi. without structures to build on, they collapsed, leaving a void for a worldwide terror caliphate. some fear lebanon is next. >> the u.s. has a major role in
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the actual administration is basically momong the way from the region. syria has a vacuum. yemen is a vacuum. libya is a vacuum. iraq is aa vacuum. we have four countries that cease to exist. scott: even in a place like beirut, where they have learned to live with war for a vererlong titi, what is happening g ght now is a new and worrisome challenge. >> if the ited states does not intervene, will lebanon be overtaken? >> you understand what i mean when i say the united states -- [indiscernible] l arab countries of f e world -- the united states can stop the war. scott: it is not exactly a linchpin holding the region
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clclr path between area -- syria and the mediterranean sea is a strategic partner. the u.s. has sent hundds of millions of dollars to the lebanese. >> most of our assistance and equipment is american, our training is american. we are dependent on american aid to sustain most equipment. scott: just as lebanon relies on the u.s., beirut has something to offer. >> what we can help with is human intelligence.. the lebanesermy and the internal security forces have people who are detained. there was a possible suicide bomber who was detained in ipoli. scott: it is not the first time america has invested weapons and personnel in the country. this, 32 years a a, was the sight of the deadliest attack against u.s. marines since iwo
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set off a truck bomb at the marine barracks, killingng41 amererans. u.u. forces, about five e nths later, withdrew from that peacekeeping mission and the fighting continued for another seven years. more than one hundred thousand people died in that conflict. sharyl: is anyone suggesting the u.s. put troops back into lebanon to protect the border from isis? scott: no, despite the heavy fighting, they are holding strong. nevertheless, the white house said it is sending more resources to lebanon. we can only imagine that means more money and weapons. sharyl: interesting. thank you, scott thuman. in the days following the attacks, concern and rhetoric turned to the issue of refugees. in october, we reported on the potential for isis terrorists to travel into europe posing as refugees. this week, the majority of u.s. states have said they will not allow refugees from syria into their borders due to security concerns. but are syrian refugees the largest threat when it comes to isis infiltrators? jim hansen is s th the center for security policy, a former member of u.s. army special
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forces, and author of "cut down the black flag: a plan to defeat the islamic state." in termsmsf threats, i know that border patrol agents and fbi agents are very concerned about the southern border. jim: we have essentially got an unlocked, open door, and welcome mat down there. if i'm an isis guy who wants to come to the united states and wreak some havoc, i c c go through the fbi screening that is not good enough, or i could walk in and talk to nobody. if i'm looking at that, i know which one is the easier of the two and that should scare americans. there is no security down there. sharyl: are there currt threatatbecause of that andd other factors that exist in the united states? we hear about pockets of refugees that may be radicalized. jim: if you lolo at minneapolis, dearborn have large muslim migrant populations that have not assimilated and then you look at boston, the brothers who
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blew up the boston/marathon and killed a bunch of f ericans, came in asasids of asylumees. they were not refugees, but pretty close to the same thing.. they went to a mosque in the boston area that had 12 jihadis associated with it. people who have been arrested for terror financing or actually killed americans in terror acts. sharyl: i think if you asked people what is our policy, what is our strategy, they would not be very clear on it. things seem to be evolving. what would you say it is? jim: i would say president obama is not very clear on our strategy to have one that hehe looks like he wants to win. at this point, he seems like he seems perfectly ok with kicking the can down the road. dealing with. now the e ench are actually leading frfr the front and bombing a bunch of targets that, for some reason, we could not find for the previous weeks? those fuel trucks were there, those command-and-control centers were there, we did not have the will to hit them. sharyl: thanks, , m hansen.
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appreciate it. coming up next on "full measure," this woman says fighting fires was easier than
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sharyl: alicia dadney f f to get one of the toughest jobs as a firefighter with the u.s. forest service. this report includes some strong alicia: i was really lost and upset at what i had done and the fact that i had committed a crime and what i had done to my family. sharyl: alicia dabney's crime was welfare fraud. she was a young motheheof three living on an indian n servation and caring for her husband, who had been seriously injured in a suicide attempt. when she went back to work, she got caught collecting welfare he was no longer entitled to. she pled guilty and focused on a plan to pay the money back. alicia: firefighters work hard, they make good money. i have alwaywanted to be one. i'i'm going to sign upupnd push through it. sharyl: in 2010, she landed her dream job as a firefighter with the forest service under the u.u. department of agricylture. working fires like this one in
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new mexico, she was prepared for life or death situations. but she was unprepared foe hostility she faced back at the station in california are 35 covering 20 million acres in the pacific southwest. alicia: there were three females. within a month, one had quit,, one was ran out. pretty soon, it was only me. they started torturing me. this frat boy attitude and the bullying and being humiliated, being called fat, also being called a horror. it just wrote me up the wall. i could not take it. sharyl: do you think they wewe tryingngo be playful? >> no, it was part of the culture. sharyl: she did not know what then, but they all l d sorted histories of civil rights violations and discrimination dating back decades. corrective actions did not
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prevent her from getting singled out as a mexican, native american, and a woman. alicia: he had to force me to tell me -- to tell him when i started my menstrual period. sharyl: how did you report this? alicia: every month, i would go in there and i would cover my face with my hands and say, i started my period. i would be humiliated. sharyl: why do you think he was doing that? alicia: i don't know his motive other than i think he is sick, to be honest. sharyl: she launched multiple equal opportunity employment claims and complained to the office of special counsel. and to the inspector generer. she alleged that on the road, she was forced to urinate in view of her male colleagues, that they got opportunities she was denied, that a supervisor once sat and bounc on her neck when she was bent over. e sasaid the offendede were sometimes disciplined, but not fired, and the bullying got worse. in early 2011, she attended a firefighter training conference where phone numbers s re given
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out on a list. alicia: in the middle of the night, i get a phone call. sharyl: she saved e recorded message. >> alicia, it is me. i'm ready to go. i'm in room 203. i'm totally reready, baby girl. give me a call b back. i hope you are all wet like im, baby girl. alicia: you could he a ton of guys laughing in the background. it is some type of ha ha ha. i don't know. not like this guy like to me and wanted to edhang out with me. he was trying to humiliate me, of course. sharyl: when you hear alicia dabney's story, what is your opinion? >> the management infrastructure is such that it encourages this frat boy atmosphere. sharyl: michael mccray experienced this first hd of the u.s. department of agriculture. he exposed fraud worth millions of tax dollars in a program for poor communities.
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>> forged checks. outrageous stuff. we ended up going to the oig, the inspector general. we notified the president of the coission. sharyl: instead of help,sa he says he gototargeted for being aa minority who also blew the whistle and lost his job. in 1995, he began filing a series of discrimination and retaliation claims, which by law must be investigated within 6 months. what was the outcome of your complaint? michael: my complaint has never been processed to completion. sharyl: from thehe990's? michael: from the 1990's. i had testimony, corroboration, documentation. i had a case that should not have taken 20 minutes and it has taken 20 years. sharyl: how bibiis this problem of long-standing bacacogs on civil rights complaint? michael: it is tremendous. sharyl: in 2009, agriculture secretary tom bill sack
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languishing civil rights complaints at usda and promised to change the culture. >> among the most intractable challenges facing g e new secrcrary of agriculture i ithe intolerable and inexcusable state of civil rights in usda's agricultural programs and for usda employees. discscminationn any form w wl not be tolerated in this department. sharyl: bubut two years after that testimony, dabney says her situation was tolerated. a coalition of minority employees provided the director with -- the secretary with accounts from minorities and they even tried writing his wife, mrs. obama, and others. they hoped the women might be moved to act. the coalition said administration officials promised help, but the abuses continued. just a few months later came with dabney says was her lowest point with the forest service, in august 2011.
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she was attendina training conference when a supervisor asked to borrow work supplies at the hohol. alicia: i knocked on the door and he opens it and he just grabs me in a chokehold and flings me on the bed. i'm literaray just scared. i did not know what he was doing. he starts to say, let's just cuddle, let's hang out, let's together. i was li, no you are my boss, please don''t do this right now. he just kept getting tighter and tighter. i started saying please, please don't do this to me right now. i had to talk him down, reminding him, you're m mboss, you don't want to do this to be right now, please let go of me. when i started crying, he finally let go of me. sharyl: she says she r rorted the inindent to her supervisis and multiple investigative bodies, but suffered more reprisal. it turns out the problems with discrimination complaints go to
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agriculture. that i iaccording to a recent investation by a federal watchdog agency, the office of special counsel. it found hundreds of claims filed against senior managers in the very divisioiothat is supposed to enforce civil rights laws. the department of agriculture office of the assistant secretary for civil rights. what is more, from 2010 through 2013, 81% of complaints file against usda senior managers were not acted on in a timely manner. the usda tololus it has fixed that particular problem. the obama administration denied our interview request, but they said the agency inrited serious issues. over the past six years, we have corrected errors, learn from mistakes, and charted a stronger path for the future where all americans are treated wiwi dignity and respect. mcray has filed a clasaction lawsuit on behalf of the 3000 people whose d dcrimination
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2009. michael: there is no accountability. even in cases where discrimination has been proven. if you are a manager, you don't even have to pay for your defense. th are going to be the agency attorneys that are going to be your attorneys. sharyl: if there ararany fines? alicia:michael: the justice department pays. sharyl: so the taxpayer pays. michael: absolutely. from the manager's point of view, there is zero accountability and zero st. sharyl: as for daphne, the department of agriculture admitted n nfault but paid her a a confidential settlement that includes -- included the alleged hotel assault with the condition she never work there again. michael: i think it is especially corrosive for somebody like alicia dabney, who was on the front line in harms way. it is bad enough if you are on a desk job. people are playing with you and you are out fighting fires, you can die.e.
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justice other than letting america know, letting people know that this is at happened me but it does not have to happen to others. sharyl: she has repaid the money she stole from the welfare fraud and a judge wiped the conviction from a record. she still l ves on the indian reservation with her husband and three children and is
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t on this worl sharyl: : rrorism and the islamic state are the most important issues facing the country right now according to the latest bloomberg national politics poll after the paris terror attacks. national security is also dominating talk on the campaign trail. in case you missed it, our "campaign incredible" brings you the week in about 60 seconds.
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this is ththwar of our time. >> we have got to be calm, but not stupid. >> as president, i would give the mission to the pentagon andd ask thememhat they need to accomplish the mission. >> they could be isis, they could be anybody. what is our president doing? is he insane? >> folks wt to pop off and have opininis about whatat theyy think they would do, present a specific plan. >> mr. president, you want to insult me, you can do it overseas, you can do it in turkey, in foreign countries. mr. president, come back and insult me to my face. >> we cannot act as though we arshutting the doors to people in need without undermining who we are as americans and the values we have stood up for. sharyl: it is "follow the money." if the antics on the campaign trail ararnot alien enough for you, how about this? our government is using our tax
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to attend u.s. space camp. senator paul: we spent $2,000 last year inviting 24 kids from pakistan to go to space camp in alabama. we borrow money from china to sese it to pakistan. it is crazy, it is ridiculous, and it should stop. sharyl: senator rand paul went ballistic over a state department program to pay for pakistani students to pay for cash to attend -- to attend space camp to promote their english language skills. since in space no one can hear you scream or speak english, it -- the paid it to her included a trip to dollywo and a visit to the nation's capital. thatas just one example whate says is an astronomical waste of your tax money.y. sen.n.aul: we spent $300,000 last year studying whether or not japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine.
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we spent $700,000 stying -- several hundred thousand dollars studying whether or not we can relieve stress in vietnamese villagers by having them wch arican television reruns. sharyl: senator rand paul is a frequent critic of government waste and his website publishes a waste report dedicated to exposing outrageous government spending. still ahd, taking a stand
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shshyl: in these last dozen days, we have seen new horrors and are facing the recurring fears of new terror threats. many people are showing strength and even defiance. aryl: in london, la marseillaise became the national anthem for a night aa soccer match that showed no rivalries. in washington, being a aourist ant making a stand a aer a threat by isis to strike at the capital. >> we have got to let the whole world know that we are going to walk as free people. no matter rhat anyone tries to do. >> being afraid is what they want. it is not going to put me off. coming to the wondndful land of america, the land of a free. >> why but i be terrorized? i'm here. i am free. whatever is going to happen is going to happen. god is g gng to order my stepsps. i'm not going to worry about it. i'm not going to worry about those nut jobs.
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sharyl: thanks for watching. that's it for this week. i'm sharyl attkisson. until next time, we will be searching for more stories that
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