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megachurch in the country. he knows his message is controversy, but he's not apologizing. tonight, he sits down with abc's robin roberts. and the chosen famine. more than 2 million children acutely malnourished. a global cry for help. we're in somalia as the humanitarian emergency unfolds. >> announcer: from the global resources of abc news, with terry moran, cynthia mcfadden and bill weir in new york city, this is "nightline," september 14th, 2011. >> good evening, i'm cynthia mcfadden. it's fashion week here in new york city and tonight, you're going to meet one of the hottest models in the world right now. the model all the designers want in their dresses. but there's a catch. he's a man. here's abc's juju chang, looking in on "a model life."
>> reporter: what is it? the porcelain skin? the lush pout? the delicate bone structure? but look carefully. the hottest model in women's wear these days is also a hot model for men's wear. perhaps aerosmith was just ahead of their time with the song -- ♪ dude looks like alidy >> i'm a fan of them anyone things. >> reporter: andrej pejic is a dude. we went backstage with him this week at new york's fashion week. the 19-year-old newcomer is swarmed by the international press. his future is bright. offers are pouring in. >> i'm working on a nail polish line. >> reporter: modeling is one of the few industries where women make three times more than men. he now commands women's feels. and he's already graced more covers than any other male
model. what makes him so hot? >> no one looks like him. >> reporter: he wears a women's size 2 or 4. with no alterations. the toughest part, he says, are the high-heeled shoes. he squeezes into a size 11, which can add four inches to his 6'2" frame. you have sort of a waist. >> it helps. >> r rorter: his beauty is genderless. a lot like candy darling. >> a lot of the warhol superstars were, you know, men dressed as women and andrej connects a lot of the dots for that. >> reporter: but he is still a man. and what about 5:00 shadow. do have trouble with that? >> no, i don't shave. >> reporter: you don't shave? >> no. when i was really young, i praped to god to get facial hair and, you know -- >> reporter: apparently your
prayers were answswed. you don't take hormones or anything. >> reporte >> no. >> reporter: do you want to be a woman -- >> i think transgender -- >> reporter: you consider yourself transjender? >> yeah. but i feel comfortable with the way i am now and don't feel the need to alter my body significantly. >> reporter: his look doesn't just blur, but erase the line between male a a female. but the runway is already dominated by flat-chested, rail thin giants who look a lot like andrej. when you see yourself in a mirror, do you think of yourself more as a man or women? >> i like to keep my options open. >> reporter: what does that mean? >> i see myself. >> reporter: so you don't see a gender? >> it's not that important. >> reporter: andrej and his family moved to australia when he was 8 years old, after his parents' divorce, escaping the war in yugoslavia. >> i grew up in a refugee camp in serbia.
>> reporter: he says he was 3 or 4 whwh he first put on girls' clothes. so you played dressup? >> yeah, like any other kid. >> reporter: except you were putting on -- >> instead of cowboy outfits, something else, but -- >> reporter: and when you're looking in the mirror, as a child, did you see a boy or a girl? >> well, i saw a child. >> r rorter: he was working at donald's when he was discovered by a modeling agency. they knew he wasn't your classic alpha male. he soon crossed over to women's wear. >> you know, famous photographers and stylists, they would just sort of look at me and be like -- put him in a dress. >> reporter: john paul gaut yeaa put him in a wedding gown and it was a show stopper. away from the cat walk, he says he's more comfortable in feminine clothes. do you use the men's room or women's room? >> now, i tend to use more the women's room, just because it's a lot less complicated. >> reporter: gender confusion is precisely what andrej's status
depends on. which may be why he's so coy about his sexual preferences. >> for me, love has no boundaries. >> reporter: have you ever had sex with a woman? >> um -- i don't think i've ever had sex. >> reporter: so you're telling me you're a virgin? >> possibly. >> reporter: remember, he's still a teenager. his whwhe life is just beginning to unfold. do you want to get married? >> definitely. i want a big wedding with, you know, big beautiful white wedding dress and flowers. >> reporter: so you are definitely wearing a dress. are you going to marry a man or a woman? >> well, you know, how can you plan that? >> reporter: most of us have a general idea. >> well, you know, for me, you don't know who you're going to fall in love with. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm juju chang in new york. >> okay. and a side note. tonight, the australian government just announced that it will now include three gender options on its passports.
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>> announcer: "nightline" continues from new york city with cynthia mcfadden. >> tens of thousands of people show up every week to hear him preach in his hundred million dollar church in houston. his message, that faith and positive thinking will overcome hardship is a controversial one. but the proof of the appeal is in filling every one of those stadium seats. tonight, joel osteen sits down with abc's robin roberts for our series "faith matters." >> reporter: on a recent night, 37,000 people packed into u.s. cellular field in chicago. not for a white sox baseball game, not for a concert. ♪ but to hear a message from this man.n. >> god's fighting our battle for us. >> reporter: pastor joel osteen. >> god wants you to be
celebrated. >> reporter: head of the houston-based lakewood church. >> his message is always encouraging and positive. >> yes. >> i think for many years, people have heard that god's mad at them and they can't live up to the standards but our message is about the goodness of god and people come alive when they realize, god is for me. he's got a plan for my life and i can do something great. i can be who he wants me to be. you've got what it takes. this is your moment. the promise is in you. >> reporter: but that message draws fire fromm many main strem evangelical preachers. they believe h h offers an easy route to redemption that runs counter to what the bible says. why is it that some people feel it's wrong for a preacher to be a life coach, a motivator, that you're supposed to be more of a purist? >> yeah, i think a lot o it is tradition. how we were raised. you know, jesus talked about everyday life, about not just doctrine but how to we live? how do we forgive?
how do we keep a good attitude when the economy's down? >> reporter: you talk about reward and the way you approach it is that there's nothing wrong with the lord wanting you to have more. you can still want that and be humble? >> i believe you can. you know, robin, i believe god, you know, jesus died that we not just go to heaven but that we excel in this life. my goal is to excel, to be blessed so you can be a bigger blessing to others. >> reporter: and inspite of the criticism from colleagues, his simple message of hope and prosperity resonates with the millions whoho attend his services, watch him on television and buy his books. >> good to see you. all right. bye-bye. >> reporter: he now leads the largest megachurch in america. >> thank you, again, for coming out today. god has great things in store for you. >> reporter: in just a generation, osteen has taken the church his father john started in a lowly feed store in the outskirts of houston -- ♪ to where it is today.
tens of thousands fill the seats each week in the 1 $00 million renovated former home of the houston rockets. but it remains very much still a family operation, starting with his wife, victoria. you are often given the credit of seeing the vision, of noahing your husband was capable of touching so many. >> you're peaceful. you're beautiful. >> reporter: could you imagine lakewood, tens of thousands, every sunday? >> our first date was in this building and we've been married pretty close to 25 years in april. so, you know what? if god showed us that all at once, we probably would run in the other direction. it's just that one day at a time, just trying to do your very best. >> reporter: and now the next generation of osteens is beginning to step up. 13-year-old alexandra sings at events. and 16-year-old jonathan is in the band. do you want them to follow in your footsteps? >> i love them for them to. i can't call them to do it, but
i do think they feel something on the inside. there's a legacy. there's a responsibility that my dad started. >> reporter: a legacy that has now grown into so much more. >> this is a beautiful building. it cost a lot of money. you have a lot of money that comes in. so, where does the money go? >> we take in about $80 million. it's not all from the church.. some of it is fromhe tv audience, as well. but it goes all over the world if we take in 80, we spent 80. victoria and i don't takee a salary from the ministry. we've been blessed with our books. >> reporter: you go to your website, the fps shl ministry. that's a little unusual. it is. we believe to ministry in every area of life. >> reporter: is it a sign of the times? i believe it is. and i think in some other countries, that's why the church is dried up. did 50 years ago.hurch like they the message doesn't change, but the times change. you know, the music, the production, the lights. if jesus were here today, he
would have good production. he would have, you know, the best of things. >> reporter: and that is what osteen says he wants for his followers, as well. >> i want to tell them, god wants you to excel. just keep in first place and god will open up doors you never dreamed of. >> reporter: yet, with all the doors that have opened for osteen, he stays away from weighing in on anything that could be divisive, from politics to sex. some feel when you have that influence, it is an opportunity to talk about cultural issues and talk about, perhaps, controversial issues. gay marriage, abortion, the war and that. but you have really not wanted to pursue that. >> really haven't. i just think i'm good at not being sidetracked to what i'm really called to do. i don't want to divide the very people i'm trying to reach. >> reporter: a formula that seems to be working for osteen. while other churches are declining in attendance,
lakewood continues to grow. >> and osteen's new book, "every day a friday: how to be happier seven days a week" is on sale now. our thanks to robin roberts. stay with us. ♪ i'm a speck of dust alone in the wire jungle. some dust rags say i'm unreachable, [ grunting ] but that's how i like it. unattached, free, indep... i've changed my mind. ♪ i believe in miracles [ female announcer ] swiffer attracts dust.
abc's david muir first travels there over the summer. tonight, he is back. >> reporter: cynthia, good evening. as you know, we've come back to somalia because the fall lynn is worsening. it's not just the hunger here. so many children are now fighting something else. an outbreak of measles. and as we discovered, it is spreading fast. we flew back to somalia and straight into a famine that is worsening there are more than 2 million children acutely malnourished. so this is the main hospital here in mogadishu, where, inside, there are too many children to count. amid the chaos, we learn there are only four doctors for more than 300 children. >> this is a difficult job and all the staff, all the staff, of this hospital, is volunteer. >> reporter: you're a volunteer? >> yeah. >> reporter: already overwhelmed with cases of malnutrition and dehydration, now measles.
six times the measles cases than you've had last year. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: he takes us upstairs towards the roooo where children are now quarantined. and on our way, a portrait of a hospital overwhelmed. darkened, crumbling hallways. the young girl rushed by on a stretcher. her parents telling doctors she hasn't spoken in three days. this little girl crying as her mother tries to feed her fortified milk. we couldn't help but notice t t mother's earrings. >> reporte but she know her earrings say love? >> yes. >> reporter: she knows. and then, one of the rooms where children have measles? this baby, just one day, now lying on a blanket on the floor. there are no beds left. and this boy, we could see his red eyes, feel his burning forehead. and his cough. his sister keeps watch beside him.
measles are spreading fast here, brought on my hunger, weakened amoney systems and a country where there are no regular immunizations. there's a race across somalia in small clinics, where they are administering free vaccines.. >> they're not dying of hunger. they are dying now from disease. particularly diseases that they've become vulnerable to because they are malnourished. >> reporter: volunteers have it difficult to try to give the vaccines. soldiers make us wear armor as we return to the refugee camps. we were greeted by the children. one, two, three, four, five. six. so many of the children, too young to recognize the fractured city around them. this is what's leftf what was moeg dee she's magnificent cathedral, really now a
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