this is "nightline." >> tonight, cam couples. inside the growing trend disrupting the billion-dollar porn industry known as camming. >> oh, thanks, carlos. >> ordinary people live streaming intimacy from the comforts of their own homes. reaching thousands of viewers. some earning big bucks. >> my average around $500 to $700 a night. >> why one couple says it spiced up their love life. >> we are officially live. plus billy and the bus. >> whoa, whoa! >> yes! yes, the donald is good! >> billy bush speaking out about the fallout from that infamous "access hollywood" tape. >> do you believe you should have lost your job over this? >> the behind the scenes story
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good evening. thanks for joining us. it's been said the internet is the great equalizer, allowing almost anyone to start a business, publish their writing or music, and now, become a porn star. real couples having discovered they too can make money without stepping outside their homes, simply rigging their daily lives with cameras and selling intimacy. here's abc's kendis gibson. >> reporter: they seem like your average couple next door. 40-somethings in love. it's a typical southern california saturday. tackling yard work. cooking dinner together. these two just can't keep their hands off each other. but they have a secret. >> it's something that we really enjoy doing. we get to do it together. on our own terms. in our own home.
we don't have to go anywhere. it's a fun business. web cam there -- >> reporter: they're in the business of sharing their most intimate moments. >> should i go ahead and start? >> reporter: live streaming their own interactive porn -- >> we are officially live. >> reporter: via web cam for money as the duo peppermint and dusty. >> #foreplay. >> reporter: they have more than 80,000 follow others the sex streaming website chatter bait. >> erotic couple -- >> reporter: viewers can chat with them. >> we are a loving, passionate couple. >> reporter: tips. >> thank you. >> reporter: and even make requests. >> thank you, booty play, that's really important for to us show in our room that we have fun and we enjoy each other. >> you have a normal day job? you both do? >> right. >> you happen to come home at night and get on a web cam and have sex? >> sure. >> we're going to have sex anyway, no matter what. >> reporter: the adult entertainment industry is reportedly worth billions of
dollars. at any given moment, there are thousands of live cams streaming strip shows, foreplay, and hard-core sex across the internet. sites like chatter bait, my free cams, and cam 4, receiving millions of visitors every day. the sex streaming site live jasmine is one of the most visited websites in the u.s. more popular than "the new york times." successful shows can make several hundred dollars. in just a few hours. the most dedicated performers? raking in six figures. >> i work on web cam wednesday through sunday. i average around $500 to $700 a night. that pays my bills for the month. >> reporter: ariana marie is a current porn star and successful cam girl. she can make money by just cooking in her bra. and says camming allows performers to be more creative and in control. >> oh, thanks, carlos, for tipping me. i like being able to connect
with my fans. with camming it's a one-on-one personal connection, almost a girlfriend experience in a sense for them. i'm working in adult film. you know, you don't know if you're going to get a call from a company saying, hey, we want you for this film. i think with web camming you definitely have more advantage to make more money. >> reporter: peppermint and dusty do like the money but see camming more as a way to inspire others. >> money isn't at the top of the list. that's an awesome bonus on the side. >> the focus is the fact that we have somebody that comes into the room and is watching us and says, wow. i want that. i deserve that. i deserve that affection, i deserve that intimacy. >> you guys have quite a following. do you consider yourself -- >> a porn star? >> no. >> not really, we're just normal people that happen to be very lucky to have an incredibly loving relationship that includes a lot of passion. i mean, look at us now.
we never are not touching each other. we have this super high-tech logictech cam. we plop right on there -- >> reporter: their do it yourself studio up and running with minimal technology. >> so it's a very simple setup. a little camera. apple. mac book. small tripod. and voila. >> tv and a whole lot of coconut oil. >> a whole tub. oh my gosh. >> reporter: peppermint and dusty stumbled into the business. >> we live together -- before we lived together i had a place with a mirror in the bedroom. it was fun to look over in the mirror while we were being intimate. it turned us on. >> reporter: when they decided to take their love-making live, it wasn't a smooth start. >> we dropped the cam into the coconut oil. shaking it, trying to get the coconut oil out of the speakers and stuff. >> you've had missteps? >> oh, yeah. that's half the fun.
>> i think it's time for us to go. going to leave them for their show right now. >> reporter: on this night, their erotic show went on for five hours. at one point more than 2,600 people were watching. >> our highest night has been about 7,000 people. >> there's something there that consumers are willing to pay for. and a lot of people really think that that has to do with the high level of interactivity. >> reporter: the industry has gotten so popular there's even an annual convention. fancon. ariana marie has started erotic films like "let it ride" but got her start in the cam world and moved on to studio-made movies. ♪ i'm going to tease you a little bit ♪ >> reporter: now a known figure in the porn industry she often goes live on the site my free cams. >> i came back to camming because four years later, now i have a name. you know. i'm branding myself a little bit
better. i don't want to just oversaturate myself with a bunch of content for other companies. >> reporter: she's turned her las vegas home into a cam house, rigged with 22 web cams. the kitchen, the living room, the shower. few places off limits. opening their doors as well to other cam girls in vegas to expand her business. >> i try to split my time. i still try to shoot scenes so that i can keep my name relevant. but at the same time i'm on cam all the time too. >> reporter: her husband once performed in adult films as jack spade and sometimes joins in. >> when i was a performer, working with these different girls every day, at the end of the day all i wanted to do was come home and cuddle. that's the difference. really. is that intimacy. >> reporter: a young porn pro like ariana might seem generations removed from 46-year-olds peppermint and dusty. but in the cam world they are peers. >> we'll be in the top ten. >> yeah, we typically average top ten.
>> alongside 22-year-olds, 19-year-olds. i think it's awesome. i'm honored, flattered by that. >> reporter: for all of peppermint and dusty's openness, what they're doing is still a secret. their bosses don't know. neither do peppermint's adult children. >> i'm sure there's going to be a moment of them being horrified. i'm sure there's going to be some embarrassment when they see me. but -- there's nothing that i'm ashamed of. i mean, they know how amorous we are. and i don't feel guilty about that. >> reporter: which is why they're willing to risk being recognized. >> there's people that are going to judge us. that's just a risk that we're willing to take. i'm not going to lie about it. i'm not going to deny it. you know, we have a loving, passionate sex life. those are all things to be proud of. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm kendis gibson in southern california. up next, billy bush is back on tv. speaking out about that scandalous "access hollywood" tape. what he's saying about his locker room talk.
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it was an october surprise that rocked the campaign of donald trump. a lewd conversation over ten years old caught on a hot mike. released just weeks before the election. then candidate trump apologized and dismissed it as locker room talk. tv host billy bush, though, was dismissed from his job. and tonight he's speaking out in an exclusive on-camera interview with abc's robin roberts. >> here we are seven months later. you're unemployed. donald trump is president of the united states.
that must be a thought that has crossed your mind. >> i can acknowledge that the irony is glaring. it certainly has crossed my mind. >> reporter: in fact, for billy bush, his very public fall from grace nearly consumed him. >> the last 7 1/2 months has been a process. >> sheesh, your girl's hot as [ bleep ] in the purple. >> whoa, whoa! >> yes, the donald is good! >> reporter: it seemed to happen in an instant. just over a month before the presidential leak this "access hollywood" tape recorded in 2005 came out. it showed now-president donald trump and bush having a lewd and graphic conversation. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them, it's like a mag t magnet, i just kiss. when you're a star they let you do it, you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> we live in a visual and
digital age, so we get this video, this moment. and we react emotionally. and then you have social media and the ability to respond in realtime. and a flame becomes a bonfire very, very quickly. >> reporter: back in 2005, bush was a fresh-faced "access hollywood" host rubbing elbows with hollywood's elite. he had crossed paths with reality show mega star trump several. >> he was at the time the biggest star on television. not just the network with which we were both affiliated. >> we do want to seriously welcome our pal billy bush -- >> reporter: last summer bush made the jump to moneying tv, his dream job as cohost of the "today" show. but on october 7th, 2016, his career came to a screeching halt. >> i'm not ready for that quite yet -- >> reporter: he was fired. >> do you believe you should have lost your job over this? >> based upon the moment that is on that tape, i understand
people's reaction. i agree, i also felt that way. and i can tell you, 12 years ago, it was my first year as cohost of the show, but i was insecure. i was a pleaser. and i kind of remember wanting these celebrities to like me. so that i could keep going in this job. >> reporter: one of the harshest criticisms leveled against bush was that he egged trump on. back then, trump was about to make a cameo on a soap opera and was getting advice from ariana zucker. >> make me a>> how about a litt the donald? he just got off the bus. >> absolutely. melania said this was okay. >> how about a little hug for the bushy? >> the point that people drew the line is when you said, don't you want to hug the donald, don't you have a hug for him? after hearing him say those things. >> yeah. >> that is when people are like, oh, come on. >> yes. >> it's one thing to agree with him and can understand that. can you understand how people are like, no? >> listen, nobody reacted
harsher and more gutturally than i did. really, really just -- killed me. i say, you know -- imagine a woman is watching that, and she thinks, is that what happens to me when i walk out of a room or out of a meeting? i'm being sized up in some way? i understand that. >> he was leagued on -- like egg on from the host to say dirty and bad stuff. >> donald's wife melania felt you egged him on. >> i definitely added to the conversation. i was keeping the ball in the air. with trump it's not much of a give and take. and i remember this moment. when he said what he said at the end. to me it was more his word and performance. if i had thought, i'd like to think there was a grown man sitting in front of me detailing his sexual assault strategy, i
would have called the fbi. >> there were wrorts that you knew about the tape and you were talking about it months beforehand. >> i only talked about it with people who knew prior. i reported it as soon as it happened. i said, you wouldn't believe the things trump was saying off-camera. >> you reported that tape way back? >> yeah, sure, as soon as it was done. when i was recounting what happened. i said, yeah, when the camera left, this is what the conversation was. and it was told me days later, wow, that was on. the camera was rolling. there's audio of all that. i said, oh my gosh, wow. i never thought about it again. >> reporter: but the hardest part about his ordeal, bush says, was having to face his children. he is the father of three girls. >> my now 16-year-old daughter called me. she was in tears. and she was really upset. and she said, why were you laughing at things that he was saying on that bus? why were you playing along with that? it wasn't funny. and there is no good answer for
that. it was 12 years ago -- but it was a really bad moment. and i'm sorry. you know me, and that's not the man you know. >> it must be one thing, billy, for a stranger to feel that way. but for your daughter to ask you, why? >> yeah. she didn't want to hear any explanations. just, i'm sorry. >> what did your wife say to you? >> she knows very well the man she married. and who i am. so she was supportive the whole way through. in fact, up until five minutes ago, we were on the phone before i drove up here. >> you're almost 34 at the time, is that really -- i mean, i understand what you're saying about wanting to prove yourself. but there are some people that said, you're old enough, you've been around enough. your last name is bush. >> for sure. >> reporter: his uncle is former president george h.w. bush. george w. and jeb are his first
cousins. you have been worldly more so than most people. >> for sure. i should have known better, absolutely. there's no question about that. people also say you should have stopped him. but i didn't have the strength of character at the time to do that. i wish i did. >> reporter: bush says building that strength of character has taken time. and self-reflection. >> i'm spending my days now much more joyously, much more present. meditation. i spend time on mindfulness. i try to daily. >> how do you convince some people who are going to say, you just want your job back, you just want to get back on tv? how do you convey to people that this is -- >> i can't, i don't think i can. and -- if they feel that then there's nothing i can do about it. i can tell you that
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finally tonight, there are a lot of shows on tv. but this one just may take the throne. this summer, winter is coming. the new "game of thrones" trailer struck the web today. a sneak peek released today teasing fans with the promise of dragons, drama, and of course -- war. >> whatever stands in our way, we will defeat it. >> reporter: fans took to twitter to share their excitement over the provocative preview. let the countdown begin.
"game of thrones" season 7 trailer is the only ad i've ever completely watched on youtube. new "game of thrones" gets me all sorts of excited. but who will sit on the iron throne? >> i was born to rule the seven kingdoms. >> reporter: fans will have to wait to find out. that's what i call a cliff hanger. thanks for watching abc news. as always, we're online at abcnews.com and our "nightline" facebook page. good night, america.