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>> the new book honoring our friend, colleague and trail blazer, cokie roberts. good morning, and welcome to "this week." as we come on the air this morning, president biden is attending the g20 summit in rome. the first in-person meeting of the world leaders since the pandemic. he went to mass last night receiving communion with first lady jill biden. this morning, joe biden met with turkish president erdogan before heading to glasgow for the u.n. climate conference. cecilia vega is traveling with the president. she joins us this morning from rome, and cecilia, two big items on the agenda at the g20, climate change and getting vaccines to poor countries. >> reporter: yeah, exactly, george. good morning to you, and this is why this is so important. we're talking about the world's 20 largest economies who are responsible for emitting 80% of
the world's greenhouse gas emissions. the head of the u.n. recently said the dramatic action they need to take at this summit here, if it doesn't happen, we are looking at a one-way ticket to disaster, he said. so really what is happening here in rome today is going to set the stage for that high stakes summit in glasgow. president biden heads there tomorrow, and he is really facing serious questions as he heads into that conference as to whether he can meet these huge goals that he has set for reducing emissions back home over the next decade. you mention those vaccine distributions. that is a huge topic here as well. the united states has committed to donating more than a billion doses over the next year. that is more than all of the world's countries combined, and another major issue here today, george, i want to tell you about, that huge supply crisis that americans have been following back home that has led to so many empty shelves around the country, and high gas -- high prices. leaders here are really trying to identify where the bottlenecks are in that supply
chain crisis, and one thing that president biden is about to announce here this morning is this deal with the eu over aluminum and steel tariffs. the white house says this is a really big deal because this is going to directly impact americans and their pocketbooks. they're going to end up seeing lower prices for really important things and things they have had a hard time finding like cars and refrigerators, and stoves, but george, i also got to tell you. we're looking at a press conference later today. the president hasn't had one of these in four months like this. he's going to be facing a lot of questions on all of to those topics. >> he certainly will. that's not all he's going to getting questions on. he's going to be getting questions on the build back better plan. he laid out his framework, but still no deal at hand. are white house officials optimistic they're going to get it done this week? >> reporter: they are optimistic, and it's not just the white house. we are hearing finally some pretty serious optimism from capitol hill. democrats are looking over this legislation, and the president doesn't have this in hand and ready to sign, but house
leaders, and democrats on the hill are signaling they could be looking, george, at a vote potentially as soon as tuesday, but the reality is president biden is here right now on this high stakes european summit without that bill signed. that is not what the white house wanted. >> cecilia vega, thanks very much. let's get more on this now from transportation secretary pete buttigieg. secretary buttigieg, thanks for joining us this morning. let's pick up where cecilia just left off. we know that speaker pelosi is hoping for a vote on tuesday. are you confident you have the votes? >> we're very optimistic. the president put forward this framework because he believes that it will pass the house and the senate, and can get to his desk, and as soon as it does, it's going to make such a difference in the lives of americans. you know, one of the reasons we have such a sense of urgency about this is that the american people are impatient to see the pro-family policies that are in that build back better plan, to make sure we make child care more affordable in this country, to expand 3 and 4-year-old access to preschool, to get
millions of americans needed tax cuts in the expansion of the child tax credit, and i was just telling you about the family parts of the bill. obviously huge and urgently needed action on climate change, and of course, that work on transportation infrastructure that i have been talking about all year, improving our roads and bridges, ports and airports, and something that is even more visibly needed as we face these supply chain issues, with the record level of goods. this was designed a hundred years ago or more. >> you say the american people are impatient, but we have a new poll out this morning with ipsos that says a lot of the american public doesn't know much about this, and 32% think it will hurt them. does this hurt communications? >> i think it gives me an opportunity to remind americans about what's in this. for example, if you are watching this broadcast and you have kids, nine out of ten chance that you will personally benefit to the tune of hundreds or thousands of dollars from that child tax credit expansion. if you have been thinking about getting an electric vehicle and the savings in fuel that would come from that, think about what
your family could do with up to a $12,500 discount on electric vehicles, which we're doing of course, not just because it's going to benefit your family, but because it's going to benefit those american jobs making them, and importantly, benefit the climate. think about the real world everyday impact that it will make for millions of americans to get that support for child care that's unaffordable, and by the way, one of the other reasons why it's so important to get those child care provisions through is that's also going to help with inflation. we've got a lot of people who are unable to return to the labor market because they can't get child care. that is a drag on our economy and it's creating upward pressure on prices and that is why 17 nobel prize-winning economists signed a letter talking about the benefits with regard to inflation that will come with this bill. so whether you're a policy wonk or whether you're just trying to get through life raising your
family, anybody who has ever driven on a road or a bridge, anybody who drinks water, remember, this bill will get lady out of 100% of the pipes in the country. anybody concerned about internet access coming to a neighborhood near you, this bill for you, and it's one of the reasons why i welcome this opportunity to talk not just about the political blow by blow and the day by day drama, but what it's going to do for the american people. >> one of the provisions that's been dropped is paid family leave. you have experience with paid leave, taking care of your new twins. it's been dropped from the bill. we know there's lobbying behind the scenes to get it back in. is that a fight for another day? >> look. it's definitely something that we believe in, and so while it is not in this framework, we're going to keep fighting for it. as you said, i believe in it. the president does, and let me say this. any other policy priority that we have as an administration, as a party, it's going to be that much easier to deliver in the future where we are in a position of strength because
we've gotten this done. what we have in front of us right now, this is not half a loaf. it is a feast of good policy. it is the most transformative legislation for families, for health care, for climate, that we've seen certainly in my lifetime, and it's going to be an extraordinary achievement as soon as we can get it to the president's desk, and then departments like mine will be getting to work using those taxpayers dollars well to make everyday american life better. >> you say you're very optimistic, but we haven't seen expressions of support from the two senators that seem to matter most, joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. >> well, again, we are the closest we have ever been, and the president put forward this framework having talked to them, and others throughout this progressive and moderate wings of our party confident that it will pass, and, you know, this is a process that's taken up to a year, and a huge amount of consultation, listening. i've seen the president pay close attention to what members across the party have to say, talking to republicans.
remember, we got a bipartisan vote for the infrastructure part of the deal. i wouldn't, by the way, let republicans off the hook on voting for the family provisions too. i know they probably won't, but it's not too late for some of them to join democrats who are united in believing that the time has come for us to actually put our money where our mouth is, support american families and do it with a tax code that rewards work, not wealth, and asks corporations to pay their fair share, and makes it a fair system for everybody. >> i know you're confident, but what are the consequences of failure? >> look. we just have to get this done, and i'm not just saying that politically. i'm saying that because,look. we look at climate for example, as we prepare for the summit in glasgow. we have a very limited number of years to cut emissions dramatically, and the president has laid out a way to do it to create jobs and break that old source of climate versus jobs,
and we have to do that, and create jobs and this is part of how our economy has been brought back from the brink. if you think about the bold action of the american rescue plan, we need bold action to set us up for success, not just getting through the winter, but getting through the next decade and beyond. >> secretary buttigieg, thanks for your time this morning. >> good to be with you. thank you. now to republican congressman adam kinzinger, one of only ten gop members who voted to impeach donald trump, and one of only two serving on the january 6th committee. he announced on friday he will not run again next year. >> i cannot focus on both a re-election to congress and a broader fight nationwide. i want to make it clear. this isn't the end of my political future, but the beginning. >> and congressman kinzinger joins us now. good morning, congressman. what is that broader fight? how are you going to take it on? >> the broader fight, you can -- in the house, as hard as you
can, fight to tell the truth. you can fight against the cancer in the republican party of lies, of conspiracy, of dishonesty, and you also might come to the realization that basically it's me, liz cheney, and a few others that are telling the truth, and there are about 190 people in the republican party that aren't going to say a word, and there's a leader of the republican caucus that is embracing donald trump with all he can. so the broader fight is look -- i started country first. by the way, country1st.com. there's a lot of people that feel politically homeless, and there's a lot of people that feel like something has to change in our politics, and i think it's important to jump in with both feet and see where that goes, and see where that's going. with what's happening right now, we're failing the american people right now. the political system is failing and the republicans in particular. >> just a month ago, you were confident you were going to run again. what changed? was it the redistricting plan that was put forward by democrats in illinois that basically squeezed you out of
your district? >> yeah. it's a couple of things. it's sitting back and saying, okay. what happens if i win again? i go back, and republicans will probably be in the majority. i'm going to be fighting even harder some of these things, and it's been obvious over the last ten months that nobody -- i haven't seen any momentum in the party move away from lies and towards truth, and the other thing is keep in mind, george, ten years ago democrats in illinois came after me, and they did it again. i'm not complaining. it's redistricting. i get it. it's being done and abused everywhere, but when democrats do say they want, you know, republican partners to tell the truth, and then they specifically target me, it makes you wonder, but i'm going to stay in. i'm still in for the next 14 months, and i'm excited to continue on the january 6th commission to give people the truth of what happened because they deserve that. >> president trump took a victory lap after your announcement. he said, two down, eight to go, referring to the ten house republicans who voted to impeach him. you know, a month ago when anthony gonzalez, one of the
other ten said he wasn't running again, you said that was a win for president trump. did you hand him another win? >> you know, potentially, but i don't think it was my decision that would hand donald trump a win. i think it is -- it's the situation we find ourselves in. here's an interesting thing, like, donald trump -- he puts out -- i think he said, two down, eight to go. that's about the only ink he gets from that. he's kind of just tweeting or press releasing from mar-a-lago, but i actually think what's going on here is if he runs in 2024, he'll be the front-runner no doubt, but i think the republican establishment now, whether it's the nrcc, whether it's kevin mccarthy, have held onto donald trump. they have continued to breathe life into him, and so actually it's not handing a win as much to donald trump as it is to the cancerous kind of lie and conspiracy not just wing anymore, but mainstream argument of the republican party. this is not on, you know, the
ten of us that voted to impeach. it's not on liz cheney and i to save the republican party. it's on the 190 republicans who haven't said a dang word about it, and they put their head in the sand and hope somebody else comes along and does something. >> and that seems to be solidifying, you know, chuck grassley, 88 years old, senator from iowa is running again. he was quite critical of the president after the january 6th insurrection, but here's what he said just last month in iowa after he endorsed president trump, and received his endorsement. >> i accept the endorsement of the person that has 91% of the voters in iowa. i wouldn't be too smart. i'm smart enough to accept that endorsement. >> that's mainstream view. >> yeah. i mean, it's very telling and if you are in politics, you know, solely to be in politics, and not to fight for something broader, it's a very logical position to take. where i'm optimistic, you know, i think we have to go through pretty low points in a country, and every point in history to emerge in a better way.
i've got to tell you, george, there have been thousands of people, tens of thousands, close to hundreds of thousands that have reached out that feel politically homeless as well, and that's what country first is act. it's not even about leaving the party. it's about saying, how do we do politics differently? because this matrix of what we're convinced works. you have to be there, and be for joe biden, and be this, and be for donald trump. there's a vast array of solutions we haven't thought of. i'm optimistic for the future, and whether that means i'm in the house or something else or just fighting for this political cause. >> right now you're on the january 6th committee as you said. we just learned yesterday that former president trump is trying to seal hundreds of pages of documents with executive privilege. it does appear that his strategy, the strategy of some colleagues is just trying to drag this out as long as possible, in the hopes that republicans will take control of congress next year. >> i 100% think that's what it
is. they know if they can drag this out, and if the republicans take the majority, they will kill this committee. look. they killed an independent commission. they've killed any attempt to get to the truth. we have sources beyond just those that are kind of making the news, the steve bannons, you know, the archives. we have people coming in and talking to the committee every day, but i think if you look at that archive request and what the former president is trying to block, it is very telling when you look at things like call logs, et cetera. take that for what it's worth, and the president has no grounds to claim executive privilege as he is today. >> based on what you've seen, do you think there are going to be grounds to prosecute president trump for his role in the insurrection? >> i don't feel comfortable making that statement yet. i'll say this. we're getting a lot of information. we are continuing to learn things every day. some of which gets out to the press. some that doesn't. if the president was aware of what was going to happen, didn't lift a finger to do anything
about it. that's up to the doj to make that decision. we can put out the facts, but i'll say this too. just from a raw political perspective, if you want a president that can sit around and be more interested in doing things like watching television than actually protecting the seat of the capitol of the united states and you want to put him back as president or you want to nominate him as president, don't come asking me why the party has failed in 2025 if you do something like that. >> thank you for joining us this morning. >> any time. round table is up next. we'll be right back. g. >> any time. round table is up next. we'll be right back.
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>> this is a moment for us. we are going to send a shock wave across this country. there's not going to be a democrat in any seat anywhere in this nation that's going to think his or her seat is safe. >> down to the wire in virginia. the governor's race is on tuesday. let's talk about it on our round table joined by chris christie, donna shalala, former member of congress, our correspondent rachel scott, and lauren barron lopez. chris, it does appear to be a dead heat in these final hours, depending on how you look at it in virginia. what is that race going to tell us? >> i think it's going to tell us more about virginia than it's going to tell us about the country. look. terry mcauliffe stuck his foot in his mouth in an enormous way at that second debate when he said that parents shouldn't be involved in deciding what their kids are learning in school, and he handed glenn youngkin something that every challenger wants to be handed in a race, and let's face it.
mcauliffe's the incumbent here and it's acting as the incumbent. so i think it'll tell you this education issue has become an extraordinarily powerful issue in virginia. what it tells us about the country is that it could become an enormously powerful issue for republicans if they speak about it smartly, and they do it the way youngkin has done it in virginia. i think it's a close race, but the trend seems to be going towards youngkin, and if i were the youngkin campaign, i would want election day to get here. >> donna, some say it's based on this big local issue, and terry mcauliffe and others say it's a lot more about former president biden and former president trump. >> i don't know about that. it's a national issue in the sense that they're trying to undermine public education. i see it in florida and i see it across the country that they actually are attacking public education. they don't like the teachers unions. they don't like public schools.
they want -- it's not just parents having more control, and i believe parents should have control, and that's what we do with our school boards, but this is a very dangerous trend, and that's what we're seeing in virginia. that's what we're seeing in florida. >> rachel, you spend your days on capitol hill. a lot of concern among both parties there about what's going to happen. >> so much concern, and i was told that house speaker nancy pelosi in what was one of the most consequential weeks for her as speaker took time tuesday to meet with democrats from new jersey who were urging her to push forward on this vote for the bipartisan infrastructure package because they needed something to deliver. that's ahead of election day on tuesday. i think a lot of democrats on capitol hill look at president biden winning that state by ten points. they look at republicans losing statewide after statewide race in that state and they cannot believe it's that close at this point.
>> terry mcauliffe did want that deal in happened before tuesday. >> he repeatedly said, can you get something done? hand me a win. now he's accepting it's probably not going to come in time, but another reason that democrats wanted to pass it is that a lot of centrists in the house are worried if they don't pass the infrastructure portion of the bill that their trust which is already low among the democratic caucus and congress could become even worse if terry -- if mcauliffe loses, and then democrats are suffering because of that and feel as though they aren't going to be trusting each other to come together on this infrastructure deal. so it's also a reverse dynamic too which is that they want to get it done before the race happens in case mcauliffe loses because then there may be democrats that are just really starting to retreat from the biden agenda. >> i want to say one other thing about the public education issue that secretary shalala raised. it's not an attack on public education by republicans. it's a critique on what type of public education our children are going to get. i believe in public schools and supported them, but i don't
believe that parents should be excluded from what's going on. i don't believe that parents want to see the liberal agenda of the teachers' union imposed upon their children and that's a debate that should be happening at the school board level, absolutely, but what's happening because of terry mcauliffe did, and what's happening through the actions of some of the political activists and they're raising that to the state level and ultimately to the national level. >> that may be a local issue, but you see the attacks on public education across the country, and and i don't disagree about parents having a role. they've always had a role in public education. that's why we have local school boards. that's why we designate education to the local level in this country, but clearly there is an attack on public schools, the movement to give private schools more public money is a clear indication of that, and as for a liberal agenda, i don't see that across the country. >> this is the aft of the nea i guess.
>> let me move to the plan coming forward to the congressman on tuesday. we've heard the expressions of optimism from the white house and from pete buttigieg as well, but it still hasn't come together on capitol hill. >> right, and we've heard all of this optimism before. we've kind of done this song and dance a few times now with democrats missing a lot of these self-imposed deadlines. i think a lot of this really comes down to the broken trust between progressives and moderates and so yes. you have house speaker nancy pelosi, and democratic leadership. they want to vote as early as tuesday. well, progressives are still saying we need to hear from senators joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema, and i asked them repeatedly on friday, gave them several opportunities to say whether or not they endorse this framework and neither of them took the opportunity to do so. >> what are they waiting for? >> a lot of democrats want to make changes pretty much up to the last minute. senators are saying, we can still -- this isn't a done deal until it at least reaches the senate and we can potentially add things onto it. you're seeing last-minute efforts by senator gillibrand,
and also trying to get prescription drug pricing reform in there. that was one of the biggest things that the administration talked about over the summer. that's out right now, and it's also one of the most popular elements of the bill. i know that right now a lot of voters are saying they don't understand what's in the bill, but when the individual pieces of the bill are being pulled, there's a lot of popularity for those individual pieces, and so there's been a problem right now with democrats just communicating what's actually in the bill because they haven't finalized it. >> we didn't know until this week until president biden announced this framework. we didn't know what was in or out. >> people thought it should have been earlier. this is important to the state of new jersey whether they're going to bring back the deduction for state and local taxes. is this going to baa tough vote for republicans? >> sure. and look. i don't think the democrats are going to be successful at getting it because essentially you're talking about it favoring
half a dozen states in the country, and i don't think that the people in the other 44 states are going to want to pay for the high taxes in new jersey, in new york, in california, in illinois. they're not going to want to do it, and that's why salt went out. i don't see salt coming back in, and why is manchin holding off and others? because of the very thing that you just spoke about. the course trading at the end and things getting back in. it makes every senator a king or a queen because for instance, if in a pharma stuff goes back in, bob menendez is not voting for it, and he said he's not voting for it. even if you have manchin, you're still a vote short, and on every one of these issues, there's somebody who is for it, but there's also somebody who's against it, and if you have 50/50, you can't afford to do it. >> at the same time, if the biden administration, they keep saying, if you can get this done, it's transformational. it's huge.
>> it is transformational. more importantly, it's not original in the sense we can't implement it quickly. it's not like the aca. you had to stand up a new program. we have a child care platform. the states are our partners in it. we have a way of initiating pre-k. we have a way of raising the wages for health care workers and child care workers. every single part of this is doable in a relatively short period of time. so i think it's a miracle on the potomac. we've dreamed about universal health care which is part of this because we've overcome the problem we have had in 12 states. we've dreamed about universal child care. we've dreamed about pre-k, and we get all of that, and it's a very different package than an original package, and nancy has done it with very few votes. she had 39 votes to spare when she passed the affordable care act.
she has three now. no president has ever without a vast majority passed this much legislation, passed a giant step in economic policy. this is about strengthening workers. this is not, you know, a soft social policy. >> chris, we talked about the salt, but on the broader bill, if the democrats do come together, several positions of the bill are popular. is that no vote as good as it looks today? >> oh, look. i think the no vote is going to be what it is, and i don't think it's going to be the determining factor in the midterm elections. i think there are much bigger issues coming in the midterm elections, you know, secretary and i were talking about this off air. will they be able to implement this in a way that makes people feel any of it before a vote in 2022? that's going to take enormous competence by the biden administration -- >> and they can go right away. >> right, but that's one element, george, and i don't think the child care tax is going to buy itself, and it's what we know historically.
midterms, the loss. there's a five-seat margin now, and so i just don't see this having that kind of impact politically which will make republicans -- any repligr thisy there's a lot of stuff in this bill that republicans simply aren't for, and you can't pick and choose, you know, like in a cafeteria which ones you like and which ones you don't. you vote for the bill or you don't and that's part of the process here. >> rachel, let's pick up on congressman kinzinger. we saw him announce he's getting out, and we saw him make his case right there. he did acknowledge this is another win for president trump. >> yeah. i thought that was really interesting that he did say, yes, potentially, a lot of people will see this as a win for the former president, and we heard from trump obviously saying, you know, two down, eight more to go, pointing to the ten who voted to impeach him in the house. i think a lot of this had to do with a map, and how it was redrawn and kinzinger saw it and said, there's no way i'm going to be able to survive. this points to the fact that trump's grip on the party is very tight at this point, and in a lot of ways, this party has
grown a lot closer to the former president since the insurrection. >> it has solidified. >> it has, and another interesting thing is he said it's bigger than trump. it's also about republicans like leader kevin mccarthy and others, the 190 republicans he said that are deciding that they're not willing to say that trump's lie about the elections is a lie, that they're not willing to stand up to some of trump's anti-democratic tactics, and so he really -- kinzinger was saying this is about a much bigger issue than trump. i mean, kinzinger has gone so far has to say that the republican party he loves is a trumpist authoritarian party, and that's why he and cheney and others are pulling away from it >> is that part of the message you delivered in your speech in
california last week but is it falling on deaf ears across the rest of the party? >> no. i'm going to tell you it isn't and i was in indiana campaigning about ten days ago for congressman jim banks, and there were a lot of people in a very conservative district in indiana -- >> as big a trumper as you can get, right? >> you had to listen to what he said that night and you have to listen to what those people -- it was about 200 people at a fund-raiser for him where i spoke. they are concerned about a party that looks more backwards than looks forwards. a party that's obsessed with 2020 rather than laying out its agenda for '22 and '24, and it's just nine months since donald trump left office. he dominated the political scene in this party and in most of this country for five years, and we want everything to change and everybody to change their attitudes in nine months and i'm chair of the republican
redistricting with mike pompeo, so i'm really involved with this redistricting and the maps. that map is illinois is deadly for adam kinzinger, and adam kinzinger as you noted in your interview was talking about not running a couple of weeks ago, and he said, i'm done. he's not going to win in the primary and he knows that. he probably, absent to all these other things going on with the january 6th commission and committee and et cetera, he probably wouldn't have won anyway. the name in illinois is one of those famous state names where it's very tough to beat them in a primary even if you are kinzinger without the other baggage he has because of january 6th. >> it does appear donald trump is making the moves he needs to make to be eligible to win again. is he the democrats' best gift for 2024 or worst nightmare? >> you know, i think he's a gift for us. he's going to have some trouble. there are going to be some
people running against him, and he'll be weakened by the time of the presidential election, but he would be a gift to run against for all of us. i wanted to say something about the salt tax because the majority of states in this country get more back in federal aid than they put in. that's finance by states like new jersey, new york, california, illinois. i favored the repeal of the salt tax, but republicans put it in when they did their tax reform, their so-called tax reform. so i think we should put that in. >> do you think it's going to get back in? >> i think it's a long shot at this moment, but i hope it does get back in. >> thank you all very much. coming up, as president biden heads to glasgow, abc is launching a month of climate
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distinguished delegates, ladies and gentlemen, it gives me great pleasure to declare open the 26th session of the conference of the parties to the united nations, on climate change. >> as the united nations global climate summit kicks off today, abc news is launching a special month-long series "climate crisis: saving tomorrow." we have two reports today starting with this analysis of public opinion from nate silver of fivethirtyeight. >> there's evidence that public opinion is shifting slowly on climate change. in gallop polling, 65% of americans say they worry about global warming a great deal for a fair amount. that's up from 51% when the same question was asked ten years
ago. 64% global warming is the result of human activities which is up from 52% in 2011. that's a pretty broad consensus where the country is divided on many issues, but will it lead to action on the federal level? i'm skeptical. one of the issues is highly partisan. in gallop's poll, only 29% of republicans think that global warming has already begun. that's actually much lower than when gallop first asked this question in 1997 when 46% of republican voters said so. another problem, the u.s. senate really rewards rural energy producing states. according to fivethirtyeight's math, 48% of americans are small, rural or smalltown areas. this represents the equivalent of 61% of the votes in the summit. so even when democrats do hold the summit, joe manchin can get in the way of climate provisions. finally there's the issue of prioritization. climate change ranked 11th in importance of issues they asked americans about.
even for biden voters, it was fifth, below health care, covid, racial inequality, and the economy. barring that, i don't really buy that the political forces are aligned on climate change. >> thanks to nate for that, and now a closer look at the environmental upheaval unleashed by climate change. my co-anchor martha raddatz filed this report from maui. >> reporter: crystal blue waters. these pristine beaches define the hawaiian islands. but with climate change raising sea levels and causing higher storm surges, erosion is speeding up, ravaging the shores of this paradise of the pacific. here in west maui, it's so easy to see what's happening with the erosion they're no longer walking on sandy beaches. they're walking on sandy bags. over the past century, three of hawaii's major islands have lost roughly one-quarter of their beaches.
sea levels are rising about one inch every four years, threatening 70% of the state's coastline. you were born and raised here? >> born and raised. >> reporter: and it's not just beaches at risk. people are struggling to protect their homes like this man who was born and raised here near the water. >> the ocean is getting high. >> reporter: are you in fear of losing your place? >> we're all in fear of losing our place. we have to do something. now temporary until we can fix it. >> reporter: temporary fixing like sandbags line the beaches as a way to protect property, but they're a double-edged sword. exponentially speeding up the erosion of the beaches by or t l tagare tempar but it's been years and years and years. >> reporter: john represents a
building in west maui. when you look at this building, how endangered do you think it is of disappearing if measures aren't taken? >> well, i'm not an engineer, you know, if we had a huge storm, it could go this season. in one of the buildings just down there, it has water in their basement, and a lot of buildings have sinkholes, and i mean, they're 12, 15 feet deep. >> reporter: in addition to private property, vital public infrastructure around the island is in peril. this beach all but disappeared many years ago. now it's the highway that is threatened. 20,000 people depend on this roadway, the only major road into west maui, but every day at high tide, the waves hit the road. >> so you can see how close it is to the -- >> wow. look at that. >> reporter: lauren from the li tst mau foundation shows me t
transportation has spent tens of millions of dollars to reroute a few miles of the road, but it still needs to realign nearly five more miles, a critical section that the state is hoping to help fund through federal grants and the infrastructure bill. do you feel you're already way behind the mark? >> we need to start now. if we don't look at how we can move back from the coastline, we're not going to have a coastline to protect. >> reporter: the effects of climate change don't stop at the shoreline. the entire ecosystem is threatened. these waters are vital farmer, but below us is a coral reef already suffering. it is really the canary in the coal mine of climate change. >> if we don't have coral feeding fish, fish won't be able to sustain our diets. >> reporter: focusing on state
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people of the world. so island states like us and island nations are the ones that suffer the most, most quickly. >> where do you see this going? >> we need to continue to work hard to make sure those who are responsible are held accountable. >> reporter: those companies refute those charges. in the meantime, local efforts are trying to keep the impact of climate change at bay. tara owens is a coastal hazard specialist working with the island of maui to raise community awareness, restrict coastal building and replenish shorelines through beach and dune restoration. >> what dunes do, is they serve as the savings account for the beach, and then during periods of erosion or high waves, they feed the beach with sand. >> reporter: these sand dunes critical for the beach to recover, supplemented with leftover sand from a state
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two years ago, we lost our dear friend and colleague cokie roberts to breast cancer. she was a trail blazer, a mentor, a mother, and always the sharpest analyst on the washington scene. her husband and fellow journalist steve roberts remembers her in his new book "cokie: a life well lived." here's a look. >> we had gotten married when i was 23, she was 22. we moved four times in the next 11 years for my job. somehow we lived in greece, she actually made her debut as a reporter, and she had never done a radio report in her life, and there was a code cyprus. she's the only english language reporter left in athens.
biggest story in the world that week, and i came back to back to find i was married to a veteran now covering the story 24 hours a day on cbs. she was growing, and ended up at abc to broaden the panel, and they were trying out some women, and she had been on npr. she had taken note of her for a one-off. >> i must say i've used the credit to my advantage this week as i sent my children off to college saying, let this be a lesson to you. get good grades. they'll come back to haunt you. >> there she was, giving it back, playing with the big boys. >> what is your definition of retirement? >> i don't know. >> if you take -- >> i think most women know it when they see it, senator. >> the real core of her appeal was to other women who said, wait. somebody else who thinks like me. somebody who talks like me, who sees the way i do. >> a lot of years of the women. >> there were a lot of women in the very early days that had to choose between a professional career and a personal life, and
here's cokie coming in with two kids, six grandkids, a long marriage and so many women saw her as a role model. that's the life they wanted, but beyond that she encouraged them and said, you can do this. it is possible, but you can have it most of the time. one of her assistants said to me, there would be a line outside her door of seeking counsel, seeking advice, and seeking her encouragement. she was a great cheerleader. long before she was diagnosed, she had become an advocate for breast cancer, and, you know, it was a devastating blow, but she got a lot of good treatment, she lived for 14 years in remission. the diagnosis did reinforce her determination to spend whatever time she had left being more of an advocate. everybody grieves in their own way, and very quickly i decided this was a way that i could grieve, but also celebrate. not everybody can be on television and have that kind of
practice. everybody can be a good person. everybody can learn somebody about those private acts of generosity, of charity, and friendship. she did it every day, and that's a big part of the book. i want people to learn about the private cokie, and she read the gospel. she lived the gospel every day, and in some ways that's the most important legacy she leaves. >> what a remarkable woman cokie was. that's all for us today. thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us. check out "world news tonight," and i'll see you tomorrow on "gma." of your sunday with us. check out "world news tonight," and i'll see you tomorrow on "gma."
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