♪ [ cheers and applause ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers. tonight -- bobby cannavale, author and actress amber tamblyn, from "project runway" designer christian siriano, featuring the 8g banwith fred armisen ♪ [ cheers and applause ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night. how is everybody doing tonight [ cheers and applause that is fantastic to hear. in that case, let's get to the news senator booker announced today that he is dropping out of the presidential race and posted a video on youtube thanking his

supporters and this is cool, every single one of them watched it [ laughter ] senator bernie sanders today denied reports that he privately told elizabeth warren in 2018 that a female candidate is incapable of defeating president trump. and in bernie's defense, even if he said it privately, we would have heard him [ laughter ] his whisper is everyone else's "i'd like to speak to the manager. [ laughter ] president trump this morning retweeted a doctored photo showing democratic leaders, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, wearing a turban and a hijab and to get him back, they posted a doctored photo of trump wearing a suit that fits [ laughter and applause [ cheers and applause "that's not me i swear to god, that's not me. supreme court chief justice john roberts will be brought in

to oversee president trump's impeachment trial. though experts say he will not have significant authority over the proceedings. meanwhile, back at the supreme court, justice kavanaugh said, "the boss is gone, bitches [ laughter and applause "jeopardy" is facing criticism after a clue in friday's episode appeared to endorse israeli claims to palestinian land though, it's still better than what happened on "wheel of fortune. [ laughter and applause wellness guru marianne williamson announced on friday that she's dropping out of the presidential race the decision was announced by her chief of staff [ laughter ] president trump's sons are reportedly planning campaign appearances for the day of the iowa caucuses. don jr. will be knocking on doors while eric will be coming out from under children's beds

[ laughter and applause a male tortoise in the galapagos islands is being credited with saving his species from extinction by having a very active sex life. [ light laughter ] even more surprising, he was wearing a fedora the whole time. [ laughter ] oscar nominations were announced today. and best actor goes to harvey weinstein [ audience ohs ] [ laughter ] "oh, woe woe is me. [ laughter ] and finally, new yorkers this weekend celebrated the annual no pants subway ride. it's an annual event that happens almost every day [ laughter and applause ladies and gentlemen, we have a fantastic show for you tonight he is starring in the new production of "madea" which is in previews now at the

harvey theater at bam strong here in new york city. bobby cannavale is back, everybody. [ cheers and applause the papeback edition of her book "era of ignition: coming of age in a time of rage and revolution" is on stands tomorrow amber tamblyn is here tonight. [ cheers and applause and he is a renowned fashion designer and mentor on the current season of "project runway," which airs thursdays on bravo christian siriano is back. [ cheers and applause so happy to see him again. so we have a great show for you. before we get to all of our fantastic guests, a new poll says the majority of americans disapprove of president trump's handling of iran and his own team struggles to defend his lies and borrows directly from george w. bush's playbook for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ♪ >> seth: you might remember that throughout president obama's two terms, republicans, including donald trump, objected to virtually everything he did on the grounds that he was trampling on the constitution

they supposedly cherished. >> i feel very strongly about our constitution i'm proud of it. i love it. and i want to go through the constitution that's what we want to do. i mean, we want to bring the constitution back. >> i will give president obama and the senate democrats credit. they believe in principles of big government they believe in this relentless assault on our constitutional rights >> this president wants to act as if he's a king, as if he's a dictator >> you see, i think we need to return to constitutional government i think they shredded the constitution, especially during the healthcare debate. >> is it time the president just already do this already? torch the constitution >> seth: no! [ laughter ] not the pocket constitution! [ laughter ] melodrama doesn't work as well when you're threatening a reproduction it's like saying, "i'm so mad, i'm going to flip over my car. [ laughter ] you left me no choice. [ laughter ] also, i wish he had actually done it because then he'd set

off the fire sprinklers at fox news and rudy giuliani would have melted like the wicked witch of the west. [ laughter ] all you'd see is suits and shoes and his big old yankee ring. [ laughter ] so the right spent eight years constantly lecturing the rest of us about the sanctity of the constitution and obsessively whining that obama was supposedly shredding it. and then earlier this month, trump ordered the strike that killed a top iranian general, qasem soleimani, without congressional approval the constitution clearly and unequivocally gives congress and only congress the power to declare war. and yet last week, after the house passed a resolution reining in trump's war powers, he complained at a rally that it would be inconvenient for him to notify congress before moving forward with an act of war >> these are split-second decisions. you have to make a decision. so they don't want me to make that decision. they want me to call up, maybe go over there. let me go over to congress so come on over to the white house. let's talk about it. when can you make it well, i won't be able to make it today, sir how about, let's say in a couple of days? oh, sure

come on over we had to make a decision. we didn't have time to call up nancy, who is not operating with a full deck. >> seth: she's not operating with a full deck you're operating with a pair of deuces and that card that has the rules on it. [ laughter and applause so, trump circumvented congress to launch a strike on an official of a foreign government a decision that has been deeply unpopular with the american people, according to a new poll out this week. a majority of americans disapprove of trump's handling of iran and say they feel less safe as a result so to try to justify the attack, trump's team has claimed that soleimani posed an imminent threat and that they had to stop it although secretary of state mike pompeo has been incredibly cagey about that >> president trump says that general soleimani was planning a, quote, "imminent attack." what was the plan? who were the targets and how soon >> there's things we simply cannot make public about what it is we knew at that time. and what in fact we know today

about the continuing activity. >> so was the justification in that he's been this destabilizing force in the region so long or was the justification this imminent threat? >> chuck, it's never one thing there is no doubt that were a series of imminent attacks that were being plotted by qasem soleimani. we don't know precisely when and we don't know precisely where. but it was real. >> when you say the attacks were imminent, how imminent were they are we talking about days? are we talking about weeks >> if you're an american in the region, days and weeks, this is not something that's relevant. >> seth: these guys claim there's an imminent attack, and then when you ask them for specifics, suddenly they turn into characters of a french film "days, weeks. what is the difference [ laughter ] weeks are days days are weeks what matters is love, no?" [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause [ speaking foreign language [ laughter ] then, the trump

administration - [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause then, the trump administration sent military briefers to congress to try to convince them that the threat was real but that only made things worse with members of both parties coming away from the briefing furious and unsatisfied. >> i had hoped and expected to receive more information outlining the legal, factual and moral justification for the attack i was left somewhat unsatisfied. >> there was no specific information given to us of the specific attack. and none of it was overwhelming that "x" was going to happen >> my reaction to this briefing was it was sophomoric and utterly unconvincing i was -- well, utterly unpersuaded about any evidence about the imminence of a threat that was new or compelling >> we did not get information inside that briefing that there was a specific, imminent threat.

i think it is likely because it doesn't exist. >> seth: of course it doesn't exist. if donald trump says, "trust me, the thing exists," it definitely does not exist [ laughter and applause he's like a magician who says he's going to pull a rabbit out of his hat, looks down, realizes the rabbit chewed through the hat and escaped and says, "trust me, the rabbit's there." [ laughter ] so because no one believed him, trump decided to do his usual routine of making even more outlandish lies, changing his story multiple times within the span of just a few days. >> we did it because they were looking to blow up our embassy >> mr. president >> --blow up the embassy in baghda can you provide more details on that plot was? >> no, i think it was obvious that he had more than that particular embassy in mind he was looking very seriously at our embassies and not just the embassy in baghdad >> don't the american people have a right to know what specifically was targeted without revealing methods and sources? >> well, i don't think so. but we will tell you that probably it was going to be the

embassy in baghdad >> did he have large-scale attacks planned for other embassies? and if those were planned, why can't we reveal that to the american people? wouldn't that help your case >> i can reveal that i believe it would have been four embassies. >> seth: in the span of two days, he went from not talking about embassies at all, to saying it was one embassy, to saying it was multiple embassies, to saying it was four embassies. i know trump is a bad liar, but even for him it's obvious he's making stuff up off the top of his head "what if it was four embassies is that a number where you would all leave me alone [ laughter ] what if they were embassy suites i mean that -- [ laughter ] that would be bad, right that would be a bad thing. [ applause ] in fact, trump's lies have spun so far out of control that even his own defense secretary, mark esper, had a hard time defending him this weekend when he made the rounds on the sunday shows. >> many members of congress, from both parties, have said that

none of the briefings mentioned threats to four u.s. embassies why is president trump telling this to fox news, but the administration is not briefing congress on this threat of four embassies? unless there was actually no specific intelligence that there was a threat to four embassies the president never said there was specific intelligence. what the president said was he believed that there probably and could have been attacks against additional embassies the president say there was a tangible -- he didn't cite a specific piece of evidence what he said is he probably -- he believed it could have been - >> are you saying there wasn't one? >> i didn't see one with regard to four embassies. >> seth: you're the secretary of defense. if it's real, why wouldn't you have seen it you think donald trump has his own top secret intelligence he's not sharing with anyone until he blurts it out on fox news? you think he's out there parachuting into the iraqi desert with night vision goggles? [ laughter ] collecting intel on his own. "bad news, guys. everything's green." [ laughter ] now if you're getting a feeling of deja vu at this point, it's because we've been through this before, in the run-up to the iraq war in 2002 and 2003.

the bush administration repeatedly lied about the intelligence they used to justify that war in eerily similar ways they claimed definitively that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that he had ties to the terrorists who carried out 9/11. they manipulated intelligence and concocted all kinds of lies about that intelligence to justify an immoral and catastrophic war that destabilized the region and the world. and they were adamant and unequivocal about it of course, in george w. bush's case, he couldn't always keep his talking points straight. >> there is no doubt that saddam hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. there is no doubt that he's amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us >> no terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of saddam hussein and iraq. >> there's a lot of talk about iraq on our tv screens and there should be. because we're trying to figure out how best to make the world a peaceful place

there's an old saying in tennessee, i know it's in texas, probably in tennessee. that says fool me once, shame on -- shame on you [ light laughter ] fool me -- you can't get fooled again. [ laughter ] >> seth: is that -- that's how they say it in texas [ laughter ] "there's an old saying in texas, give a man a fish and now that man has a fish [ laughter ] and he can eat that fish or he can keep it as a pet." what i'm saying is - [ laughter ] saddam hussein is stockpiling weapons of mass destruction. [ laughter and applause remember when we thought we could never elect a dumber president than george w. bush? and then, yesterday, our current president tweeted about impeachment and said, "hose republicans -- [ laughter ] voted 195-0 against it." well, i mean, i guess we can't

expect the real estate developer to be able to spell the word house. [ laughter ] also, he lives in the most famous house in the world. and because none of his aides will ever tell him he's wrong, they're gonna have to change all of the signs now [ laughter ] and then at his rally last week, trump could barely get through the standard end of his stump speech without standing like he downed a bottle of novocain. >> we will make america wealthy again. we will make america strong again. [ laughter ] >> seth: did he just do a keg stand? [ laughter ] if your friend started talking like that, you'd rush them to the hospital to have their stomach pumped [ laughter ] he sounds like he just got knocked out in the first round by ronda rousey. "donald, don't get up. "i can do it i'm feeling strong again." [ laughter ] and i think even trump knows on some level that he can't paper over his lies with charm because he doesn't have any. in fact, he seemed to admit as much in this brief flash of

self-awareness at his rally last week >> the radical democrats have never been more extreme than they are right now they are stone-cold crazy. [ cheers ] you know, it's interesting as i'm saying this stuff, you know, they want crime, they want chaos. i'm saying all this stuff. and then i say, jeez, now i sort of understand why they hate me >> seth: wow it's like he just had a breakthrough in therapy. [ laughter ] he should have had a psychiatrist on stage next to him saying, "expand on that. [ laughter ] anyway, the point is the bush administration manipulated intelligence lie and insisted that saddam hussein had weapons of mass instruction and ties to the terrorists who carried out 9/11 and as just as we've seen with trump, pompeo, and esper, even when bush officials admitted there was uncertainty and disagreement about the intelligence, they used ominous language to cow people who dared to questioned them into backing down

>> you will get different estimates about precisely how close he is. we do know that he is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud >> we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun, that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud >> seth: remember that line? so many of the most powerful people in our most powerful institutions went along with that line, though it was obviously insane it's like if your husband said, "i think i have a uti. and you were like, "no, you don't. and he was like, "okay well, i guess we'll find out when my penis falls off. [ laughter ] of course it turns out there was neither a mushroom cloud nor a smoking gun. or as trump has repeatedly called it "a smocking gun" that's - [ laughter ] probably why trump's speech writers have never even bothered never to write a line for him because they know he'd never be able to pronounce the words. "we know don't want the smocking

gun to be a mushroom pizza [ laughter ] that is something that cannot be --" >> tolerited [ laughter and applause >> seth: we've been through this before a lawless administration, lying to justify a potentially disastrous and illegal act of war. trump pulled from the brink last week but it's very possible he could do this all over again which means congress must use its power to stop him. because as they say in texas - >> you can't get fooled again. [ laughter ] >> seth: this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ♪ we'll be right back with bobby cannavale, everybody [ cheers and applause ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks", be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. t-mobile 5g is here. and it's nationwide. while some 5g signals go only blocks, t-mobile 5g goes miles...

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♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: welcome back, everybody. give it up for the 8g band right over there [ cheers and applause also, please give a warm hello to fred armisen who is back this week [ cheers and applause so great - >> fred: thank you >> seth: to have you back on drums, fred. our first guest tonight is an emmy-winning actor you know from "boardwalk empire" and films like "ant-man" and "the irishman." he's starring in "medea" at the harvey theatre, at bam strong through february 23rd. please welcome back to the show, our friend, bobby cannavale, everyone [ cheers and applause ♪

♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> thanks. thanks, buddy. >> seth: very exciting day for you. "the irishman," a film that you were in, nominated for an academy award. >> ten of them >> seth: ten of them >> yeah. [ cheers and applause >> seth: not bad >> pretty good, yeah >> seth: not bad at all. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. we're very excited yeah, it's an honor to be in a movie like that. >> seth: and you also -- you and rose byrne are in "medea." your preview started last night. how was that >> it was good, you know it was sold out, thousand people or so, and they seemed to enjoy it they got up afterwards and didn't leave >> seth: that's wonderful. >> so that was good, yeah. and you know rose is extraordinary. she's so good in it. and i don't think she's ever going to think that it went well, but -- >> seth: gotcha. so, now, you and rose, of course, are partners in real life >> yeah. yeah >> seth: you have two children >> yeah. >> seth: is she that kind of

actor that - >> well, she's just tough on herself. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, the thing about the theater, right, of course, is like, you do it and then it's gone forever >> seth: right >> so you just really have to move on. and i think it's a pretty demanding role for her >> seth: of course >> and, you know, i'm just going to get to hear about it every night. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, it's interesting, cause this is a very intense play - >> it's pretty intense, yeah >> seth: about marriage and relationships. >> yeah. >> seth: and you guys are in a relationship >> tyler perry comes in in the middle of it >> seth: now see, now this is interesting. tyler perry is not in this "medea." right? >> he's not in this. >> seth: right, okay, gotcha [ laughter ] >> definitely. >> seth: do you feel as though there's any sense that you want to let the audience know that ahead of time. >> yeah, yeah. i bring it up every now and then >> seth: yeah, yeah, yeah. >> i'm like -- i feel like we should have tyler perry do the announcement. >> seth: right >> like you know, unwrap the candies. turn off your phone. >> seth: yeah, don't turn off your phones. >> and i'm not in this >> seth: right [ laughter ] >> then give people seven to ten minutes to leave people go like, "oh it's not -"" >> seth: right, like we're going to turn the lights off, so you can leave if you want. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: it won't be shameful. >> yeah. >> seth: how -- you guys have worked together before >> yeah. >> seth: but again, this is very intense, and it is about relationships. have you found it harder or

easier to do it with somebody that you share a life with >> you know what the truth is, i'm a huge fan of rose's and this is one of the great roles in the history of the theatre. and there aren't that many great roles really for women and so i was really very honored to be asked to do it with her. and i've got the best seat in the house every night. >> seth: that's fantastic. >> so, i'm thrilled to do it with her >> seth: that's really exciting. [ applause ] >> yeah, it is >> seth: you have a history, a long history, as a stage actor and film actor but you have also a history of hurting yourself on stage. this is true >> oh, yeah. yeah, yeah it's like a contact sport for me yeah, i've gotten hurt i've had more surgeries from acting >> seth: really? >> yeah. you know - >> seth: what were -- how do they happen? >> you know, like, i'll do something. i'll jump on a table and then, like, in rehearsal and then i'll be like, oh yeah i'm going to do that every night. but your body doesn't know you're acting. your body's like, you're 49. >> seth: right, right. >> don't do that >> seth: and you're like, no body, we're 32 >> yeah, yeah. so after doing that for two weeks, my meniscus tears yeah >> you know. or, you know, i'm punching a

wall every night, and then like, i tear my rotator cuff so i got to fix that [ laughter ] i walked into a metal pole one night in the dark and i cut my face open. i had four stiches in my face, you know >> seth: see, the first two were kind of cool because it was you being like, tough guy. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: the pole one, there's no - >> i killed it with the last one. >> seth: yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> that's like when i -- you know, i broke my wrist one time and i had this really great cast, you know, on my arm. and people were like, what happened and i had a vespa at the time. >> seth: yeah. >> i fell off my vespa [ light laughter ] but i stopped saying that and i started saying i fell off my bike cause 20% of people thought i meant motorcycle >> seth: yeah. >> i figured >> seth: i mean this as a complement >> yeah. >> seth: if you said bike to me, i would think motorcycle before vespa. >> cause i'm saying it >> seth: yeah. >> you wouldn't think it was vespa. yeah >> seth: right, right, right, whereas, if i say it, i think people think like schwinn. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> yeah, yeah. the same thing with the meniscus >> seth: yeah, exactly >> it was jumping on a table >> seth: yeah, jumping on the table -- >> in a play >> seth: not the best way to do it >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: you - when you got your start, your

first headshot, and i think a lot of us in the acting game have a first headshot that we're maybe a little embarrassed about, but you also filled your resume with lies >> oh yeah well, i didn't have a lot of credits. >> seth: yeah. >> so i had a large special skills section >> seth: yeah. >> like half of the page was -- you know, you have to put your credits down and then, they want to know, what special skills you have multiple languages >> seth: sure. >> so, i just wrote everything that i could do. >> seth: right just cause you had to fill out the page >> yeah, automobile driver [ laughter ] and like - >> seth: oh right, stretch it out more >> and then, automobile driver/automatic automobile driver/manual cause it's longer than stick [ laughter ] accents. >> seth: accents, right. >> i don't know any accents, horseback riding >> seth: and horseback riding came to -- >> that one bit me in the ass. >> seth: it did, yeah. >> yeah, cause i had never ridden a horse and then i got a job where i had to ride a horse. and kevin costner, director, and

he was the best. he was the greatest. and i remember, we got there and it was rehearsal, thank god. and they brought the horse to me and i just looked at it. [ laughter ] and he was like, "you going to get on it?" [ laughter ] and i said, "yeah, yeah i'm just -- just waiting." and he went, "you don't know how to ride a horse." so i went, "i don't know how to ride -- i don't know how to get on a horse." and so he taught me how to ride a horse. >> seth: really? >> yeah, he was the best >> seth: and looking back, when you look at that work, are you like, "that's believable. i look like --" >> no, cause i got competely cut out of the movie. >> seth: did you really? [ laughter ] >> yeah, yeah. yeah, but i learned how to ride a horse. kevin costner was like - >> seth: that's fantastic, you got very - ultimately, you got paid to take horseback riding lessons with kevin costner. >> pretty much, yeah, yeah there's no record of it at all >> seth: no record of it at all. you posted this photo on your instagram. is this from your first communion? is that -- >> yeah. how about that hairstyle it's like -- >> seth: everything about this - >> seth: "no country for old men." >> there's so much to unpack here look at -- [ laughter ] yeah, it is. >> i had that hairstyle before javier bardem. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: this is a young anton chigurh. >> that's right. i had a big gap in my teeth

before braces. >> seth: yeah. a very, very wide lapel. >> the turned down turtleneck. yeah, i think i have a ring on too. it's on the other hand >> seth: oh, it's on the other hand >> yeah, yeah, yeah. i have a little thing there. >> seth: do you look back now and go, gosh the innocence that you were so happy in this photo, not realizing the outfit you were wearing? [ light laughter ] >> i thought i looked really good, actually i thought -- you should see my first communion suit >> seth: okay. >> cause that was inspired by "saturday night fever." >> that was -- [ laughter ] not my first communion, my confirmation >> seth: oh, your first confirmation >> white and black >> seth: you also -- is this swim team? >> you didn't have to bring that out. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's a very confident swimmer. yeah >> that pose is called the package. [ laughter ] >> seth: bobby cannavale, everybody. [ cheers and applause "medea" is playing at the harvey theatre at bam strong through february 23rd. we'll be back with amber tamblyn. [ cheers and applause ♪ dr. dolittle.

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>> seth: how are you >> i'm good. how are you? >> seth: good. it's lovely to have you here this is not your first book. >> no. >> seth: but what was the genesis and what set you off the path to write this book, about, really, the moment we're living in right now >> so, i really wanted to write something that was part memoir but was also encapsulating a lot of what women have been going through right now, especially in the last few years, since 2017's #metoo movement and times up and all of that in this sort of condensed sense of palpable rage and change that feels uncontrollable and really terrifying and to talk a lot about leaning into that and not being afraid of it and to know that the change that we're sort of seeking as a culture and as a country and as individual genders is going to come when we're in our own discomfort and we're not afraid of it anymore. >> seth: one of the things that a paperback gives you an opportunity to do is add something, revise things in this case, you had an afterword were -- i guess you wrote six months ago, about the candidates in the democratic

field and how important it was to have sort of a diverse group of candidates. and basically, just this idea of representation and how that can help avoid moments like the one we're living in now, if you have more voices in power >> yes well, statistically, it's actually proven that if you have more women in positions of power, if you have more equality in positions of power, sexual harassment and sexual assault goes down in the workplace that's a fact and a statistic. and i think one of the most important things we're seeing about -- not only this election, but the powerful women like iona presley and alexandria ocasio-cortez you know, coming into power and coming into office, is that we're actually seeing the living embodiment of who we are in those positions of power, which allows us to feel like we can capably become those types women someday in our own lives so i think it's so important that what we're seeing right now is a lot of different types of women who are running. it keeps narrowing down. i myself am a huge elizabeth warren fan i've endorsed her.

i think she's absolutely incredible and what's so great is that there's options. we didn't have that before so now that we have the options, we can actually talk about the fundamental ideas and plans behind who the candidates are and why we want them >> seth: another thing you did was you wrote an epilogue which is a letter to your daughter >> yes >> seth: and i certainly felt this as well in this moment that you describe in this era we're living through where there's a lot to be angry about and a lot of -- i think reflecting on the way we treated different genders and having two boys. i think about it all the time. has being a parent informed the way you think about this and the way write about this >> oh it's changed everything. so many of my girlfriends too. like i imagine for you it must be a complex feeling to have two sons in this particular era with this particular president, just as anyone who has, you know, girls. who is raising girls but for me, one of the hardest things that i had to come to grips with as a parent was that, i really couldn't control it and i couldn't control the outcome.

and i couldn't control protecting them. i couldn't control making them better in certain instances. there's so much you can't control. and letting go of that but knowing you can be the most empathic nurturer and supporter through the good and the bad with you child was a harnessing moment for me and getting to write that letter to her at the end of the book. >> seth: you talk about lack of control as a parent. my wife gave birth in the lobby -- >> i know. >> seth: which was a -- you know, that was a perfect example of a lack of control [ light laughter ] because if you could control it, you wouldn't do that >> yeah. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you had a similar labor issue that was, again, a lack of control. >> i also refer to it as a labor issue. >> seth: yeah. >> yes that's what women call it in the hospital sir, i'm having a labor issue. [ laughter ] sir! i -- it was actually like a day -- the day after trump had won and i was coming up the

stairs in the subway at columbus circle and started to feel contractions and i realized i was actually like going -- about to give birth in the subway. >> seth: yeah. >> as i was coming up the stairs and it was really scary and there were all these different things are happening, and i'm including a wonderful homeless man who offered me an orange to help [ light laughter ] >> seth: sure. >> that was great. and then also -- you know, offered to help give birth it was a very intense experience and i was -- in my mind, freaking out and i chronicled this in the book i was just like, i don't know if i'm -- you know, the depression from hillary clinton losing, you know, is making my water break or if i'm having like a miscarriage because trump has won. i know that's really intense, but that's how it felt in that moment >> seth: for sure. >> and it actually jus turned out i was having an anxiety attack that's all it was. just like a huge anxiety attack. >> seth: there were a lot. hospitals are filled of people with doctors being like, "ma'am, you're not having a baby right now. [ light laughter ] >> that's exactly what it was. >> seth: it's just a strange man is president and this is a totally normal thing >> that's right.

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[ cheers and applause ♪ >> seth: our next guest is a cfda and award-winning designer, as well as the mentor and executive producer of bravo's "project runway," which airs thursdays at 9:00pm. please welcome back to the show, christian siriano.

[ cheers and applause ♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> how are you >> seth: i'm very well this is fascinating. so, 12 years after you're a contestant on "project runway," you are now a mentor >> yes >> seth: you are taking over the role famously held by tim gunn >> yes >> seth: did you have hesitation when they offered this to you? >> i mean, yeah, cause it's a long time. tim was amazing. but i really think that this job is for a working designer, someone who's like really in it. so, you know, if the designers are working and they have a challenge, they're like, "oh this is inspired by beyonce." and i'm like, "well, i just dressed her, she's never wearing that." you know what i mean [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> so like, i have a little more - i'm just saying. >> seth: yeah, yeah, yeah. >> and you know, or like whoever. you know, cardi, whoever so, i give them like a real look into the business. because i leave set and i'm like, "oh, i'm doing the golden globes tomorrow." so, i'm doing real things.

>> seth: sure. and then, of course, what you say resonates because they know that to be true. >> yeah. >> seth: you're in it. >> hopefully >> seth: you've been in it, 12 years ago but it strikes me that there has been a sea of change in fashion in the 12 years since we first saw you to now what has been the biggest thing that has changed >> i mean, it's kind of crazy. but when i was on, there was no instagram. >> seth: yeah. >> twitter had just launched i mean, there was nothing. now, you can kind of be a brand without actually being a brand and i think that that's a little - it's so crazy to me. so i think, hopefully now, when i try to give advice or help them, i try give them what's happening now, but also to think about, the clothes still need to be good. >> seth: right >> i try >> seth: yeah, because i do think you might get a false sense of exactly how much your work is -- people are responding to it on social media and then of course, that's not the real - >> yeah. >> seth: people aren't wearing it, necessarily. >> yeah, exactly and i think this group, particularly these group of designers, they're quite sassy [ light laughter ] they have a lot of opinions. >> seth: yeah. >> and i think that -- not always wanted. and i think that - [ laughter ]

and i think that it's one of those things, that it's like, okay, so if you're posting your work and people love it, but you're not really a great person then i don't know if it can be as successful. >> seth: so these -- you refer to the sassiness of the designers, and some of them have made comments towards the judges on the show. >> yes >> seth: and do you feel -- do you align yourself with a designer because you're a designer or do you feel that you're not -- do you not care for that >> you wish i would. >> seth: yeah. >> i would love to be on their side, but i'm smarter than that. [ laughter ] and i realize, i'm like, sitting in front of someone like nina garcia, who is and editor of chief of "elle" magazine. she's never putting your work in there, and that would be sad i mean, i can barely get her on the phone. so it's like - and someone like karlie -- you know, karlie is a supermodel she looks so beautiful in clothes. wouldn't you want her as your muse so i think it's like, i don't know if it's the smartest thing to go at them. >> seth: to run afoul of people who are in power >> yeah, you know. doesn't always work. >> seth: we talked about your friendship with leslie jones the last time you were here. >> yeah. >> seth: you dressed her many

times, and you brought her on as a guest judge. how was she? >> she's the best guest judge ever in history of this show >> seth: i would imagine >> she screams the entire time >> seth: yep >> the whole time. she walks the runway five times. we got to get her in that chair. >> seth: yeah. >> it's so amazing, but i will say. you know what, she brings a really real-world kind of advice and she's like, no, listen i couldn't get a dress i -- this type of woman who likes this type of thing i think the designers really appreciated her advice, which was really great to see. you know, she's not, like, i don't know she doesn't hold anything back at all >> seth: yes, she is very -- very free with her opinions. yes. >> very free, and screamed the whole time it's great >> seth: yeah. she's a lot of fun to be around, a complete bolt of energy every time you see her >> yeah. >> seth: you -- i also want to ask, you've been in this -- doing this 12 years. you've dressed people like beyonce. are there still people - do you get excited when somebody reaches out specifically to you? >> i do, yeah. i mean, i still do i try not to like, focus too much on it, and be like, "oh my god, i have to dress this person."

because that's usually when it doesn't happen it's usually the moments when i'm not even thinking about it at all, that great moments happen i don't know even like what happened with billy porter at the oscars, or anything >> seth: so, just real quick, i do want to show that photo i think everybody will remember when they see it >> yeah. >> seth: not only is this an incredibly iconic look, this was the most googled image of last year >> yeah. it - >> seth: which is -- crazy [ cheers and applause >> yeah. yeah, yeah it's wild. i mean, i think it was for our time, like right now in our culture, showing that a man can show up to the oscars and wear what he wants to wear. you know, wear a dress if he wants to, and i think a lot of young people - i mean, that was the response we got was like, young kids at home being like, i can wear what i want to wear to school and that's the best part of it so it felt really good >> seth: you also dressed michelle obama at the dnc in 2016 [ cheers and applause >> yes >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, oh god. i really miss her quite a lot. [ laughter ] but so fabulous and such a great moment i dress her a lot, but i think

this was a really special night where the dress was simple, but i think spoke volumes for what it represented >> seth: another thing, you talked about this earlier in your career. you would have trouble getting through customs because of what a designer has in their bag. >> yeah. >> seth: it's just not what anyone expects to see. >> i think people think i'm a showgirl, or i don't know what or maybe they think i'm nicole kidman when they look at the luggage. cause it's a lot of gowns, it's sequins it's feathers, and i was -- >> seth: they think you're a bird smuggler. [ laughter ] maybe that - >> yeah, for sure. i know, i can't use feathers anymore because that was a whole thing. [ laughter ] it was a challenge i did i got deported a little bit from london that was kind of scary that's another day >> seth: that's another day. >> different show. >> seth: does it happen anymore? are you good >> no, i'm so good i'm a carry-on only. >> seth: oh, look at you >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: you're all grown up >> i ship it you know [ laughter ] >> seth: it is so lovely to see you, as always >> thank you [ cheers and applause >> seth: congratulations on everything >> thank you >> seth: thanks for being back, christian. christian siriano everybody. "project runway" airs on

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♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: my thanks to bobby cannavale, amber tamblyn, christian siriano, fred armisen, 8g band. stay tuned for lilly singh we'll see you tomorrow [ cheers and applause ♪ >> daniel: tonight on "a little late with lilly singh" - >> lilly: i don't want to put my life in the hands of a 15-year-old named jaden. [ laughter ] >> lilly: who is definitely going to post a tiktok if the plane starts to go down. [ laughter ] have you ever hit on your uber driver >> i made a real connection with him. >> daniel: and - >> lilly: madelaine petsch and from the movie "aladdin," aladdin himself, mena massoud. >> a fellow canadian was like,

"hey, i'm living in this two bedroom house. the other bedroom's taken but the closet is open." >> lilly: so you legit lived in a closet >> i did, yeah >> lilly: i mean, same [ laughter ] >> lilly: it's time for "drawn together. and then draw a rectangle coming out of the triangle. okay, yeah okay, okay okay, that's not what i anticipated but -- >> daniel: coming up - >> lilly: what is that