stay tuned for "late night with seth meyers. goodnight, everybody [ cheers and applause ♪ [ cheers and applause ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers. tonight -- senator elizabeth warren from "the umbrella academy," actor and writer cazzie david. an all-new "closer look. featuring the 8g band with jonathan ulman ♪ [ cheers and applause and now seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night. we hope you're doing well. and now if you don't mind, we're gonna get to the news. the supreme court ruled today that the epa does not have the

authority to set emission standards for existing power plants, but they are going to let you use the smoke for gender reveals. [ light laughter ] today was the final day of the supreme court's current term, and i got to say, thank god. this must be how the jets feel when half time finally arrives [ laughter ] "well, at least we get 15 minutes where they can't kick our asses. wyoming representative liz cheney spoke yesterday at the ronald reagan presidential library and museum to discuss the future of the republican party. well, i hate to break it to you, but the future of the republican party isn't at a library if anything, you should have held it in the comments section of 4chan [ laughter ] ketanji brown jackson was sworn in today is the supreme court's 116th justice, and then clarence thomas dissented against that, too. [ laughter ] following the supreme court's decision to overturn

roe v. wade, urologists have reportedly seen an uptick in requests for vasectomies, and this is weird, from women. [ laughter ] "his name is dave. i'll bring him in. senator bernie sanders sent a letter to transportation secretary pete buttigieg this week, calling on the department to take immediate action on issues with air travel, specifically those fun safety videos "just tell us where the exits are and shut up. [ laughter ] we don't need a funny video. no rapping." animal control officers in nebraska recently removed a miller lite can that was stuck on the head of a skunk "gkunk and finally, a man in idaho recently broke the guinness world record by walking nearly three and a half miles with a guitar balanced on his chin the bad news, he's walking to your party [ laughter ] and that was a monologue, everybody. we got a great show for you tonight. she is a u.s. senator from

massachusetts. senator elizabeth warren will be here tonight [ cheers and applause she is a bestselling author and currently stars in season three of "the umbrella academy" on netflix. our friend cazzie david will also be joining us [ cheers and applause before we get to all that, the january 6th hearings have provided a mountain of new evidence about the relentless, all-encompassing plan by donald trump and his cronies to overturn the 2020 election but maybe the biggest revelation so far has been the degree to which the people involved in the scheme all had criminal intent and knew what they were doing was against the law. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: look, i'm not especially hopeful that the january 6th hearings are going to magically change the minds of any hardcore trump fans in the republican party i mean, i hope they do but we've been through a seven-year-long onslaught of trump scandals, including two impeachments, a violent coup and a sex scandal in which he paid

hush money during a presidential campaign to cover up an affair with a porn star and lied about it up until the point where the actual check he personally wrote to make the payment surfaced with his signature on it [ light laughter ] and the way you know that's donald trump's signature is that he looks like he signed it with a giant sharpie while he was whitewater rafting [ laughter ] remember that whole thing? looking back now, i have to say i always imagined hush money would be paid in a more covert way than writing and signing a check. that was more like yell money. i just assumed from movies it would be an envelope full of unmarked bills passed between parked cars down to the docks. i never would have imagined trump sitting to balance his check book and going through all the hush money payments. "all right, let's see. $150 for the cable bill. that's fair. i watch a lot of cable $300 for groceries eat a lot of groceries let's see. $130,000 to adult film star to cover up sex scandal more than fair mel? mel, honey, do you have any hush money payments you need me to

make no, because i'm doing the bill, and if you have hush money, i'd love to -- why because i don't want to pay late fees mel, i don't want to be the only frugal one in this relationship, mel. none of that really seemed to move the needle with republicans. so i'm not optimistic the january 6th hearings are going to seriously influence the g.o.p., but i am hopeful the hearings will influence prosecutors in the justice department because one area where these hearings have been shockingly successful has been establishing criminal intent and a consciousness of guilt among trump and his gang of pro-coup weirdos as they were planning and orchestrating the coup take disgraced former national security adviser michael flynn, who participated in discussions where, among other things, he pushed trump to use the military to seize voting machines flynn invoked the 5th amendment during a series of what you would think would be pretty straightforward questions for any non-fascists >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified morally? >> plead the 5th >> do you believe the violence

on january 6th was justified legally? >> 5th >> general flynn, do you believe in the peaceful transition of power in the united states of america >> the 5th [ light laughter ] >> seth: you're pleading the 5th over a hypothetical that has nothing to do with the law the 5th amendment doesn't work like that. it's not "family feud. it doesn't say you have the right to pass after you buzz in. [ laughter ] it protects you from self-incrimination and look, i'm generally very opposed to drawing conclusions about someone's guilt just because they plead the 5th it's a constitutional right and it's in there for a reason these are just benign hypotheticals. this is like if your spouse said, "how do you feel about monogamy?" and your answer was, "i'm invoking my 5th amendment right not to answer any questions about your sister. [ laughter ] it's not going to end the conversation that's how aware these guys were that they were in legal trouble. they wouldn't even answer questions about whether they believe in the peaceful transfer of power

in fact, at almost every turn, key white house officials made it very clear that they knew they were in significant legal jeopardy for example, on tuesday, a former trump white house official cassidy hutchinson recounted in a damning comment from trump's white house counsel pat cipollone, after he found out that trump wanted to go to the capitol himself and lead the armed mob in overthrowing the election results >> we understand, ms. hutchinson, that you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the morning of the 6th as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse. and mr. cipollone said something to you like, "make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen." is that correct? >> that's correct. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto west exec that morning. and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was

concerned with >> in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> seth: it's amazing. "we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable." it's truly mind-boggling to me that none of these guys are in jail yet when they themselves were expecting to end up in jail merrick garland's still poring over transcripts, looking for a smoking gun. meanwhile, on january 6th, trump aides were all on pinterest searching for ways to accessorize your orange jumpsuit [ laughter ] "oh, cool. it says you can bedazzle your handcuffs. and crucially, that comment from cipollone was not just a one-time freak out on january 6th. as hutchinson made clear in that clip, there were conversations even before january 6th about the likelihood that trump aides were committing, among other crimes, obstruction of justice or defrauding the electoral count. think about that they even named the specific laws they were breaking. they literally laid out a blueprint for prosecutors to arrest them. i mean, how much easier can you make it?

this is like if on every page waldo was holding up a giant sign that said, "i'm right here, you idiot. [ laughter ] and that was not the only time a white house lawyer warned trump cronies that they were breaking the law. for example, there was also eric herschmann, whose job, it seems like, was basically to tell everyone in the trump white house they were constantly breaking the law now, you might remember herschmann from previous hearings is the guy who has a baseball bat with the word "justice" written on it hanging on his wall. i like that it's not mounted on wood or in a glass case or anything it's just right there on hooks at grabbin' height [ laughter ] i bet when people got their lunches out of the office fridge at his firm, they triple checked they had the bag right herschmann was in a meeting with another key figure in the attempted coup, justice department official jeffrey clark. clark wanted trump to make him attorney general after the election so that as attorney general clark could declare without evidence that there was fraud in the election and then overturn the results. and herschmann had very blunt words for clark when he found out about clark's plan

>> when he finished discussing what he planned on doing, i said, "good [bleep]. excuse me. sorry. "f-ing a-hole, congratulations you just admitted the first step or act you take as attorney general would be committing a felony. >> seth: i like that the guy has enough decorum not to curse in a deposition, but still keeps a baseball bat in the frame just to keep everyone on edge [ laughter ] i wish i could have been a fly on the wall for all his conversations in the white house. "if you break the law, i'm gonna use this baseball bat and beat the living [bleep] out of you. sorry. the living "f" out of you. please [ laughter ] please excuse my horrible manners, you dumb [bleep] piece of [bleep]." [ laughter ] so yet again, we have a trump white house official making it plain as day that the people planning the coup knew they were breaking the law when they were doing it for example, we also know from testimony given by a former aide to mike pence that john eastman, the pro-coup lawyer who wrote the memo detailing how pence was supposed to overturn the results on january 6th, also knew his plan was illegal eastman admitted in the oval office in front of trump that his plan would violate the

electoral count act. and after the whole thing descended into violence and chaos on the 6th, herschmann, the baseball bat guy, again offered a very stark warning to eastman. >> it was the day after. eastman, i don't remember why he called me -- or he texted me or called me. wanted to talk with me, and he said he couldn't reach others. and he started to ask me about something dealing with georgia and preserving something potentially for appeal and i said to him, "are you out of your f-ing mind?" right? i said, "i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth for now on orderly transition. and then i screamed and said, "i don't want to hear any other f-ing words coming out of your mouth no matter what other than

orderly transition repeat those words to me." >> what did he say >> eventually he said, "orderly transition." i said, "good, john. now i'm going to give you the best free legal advice you're ever getting in your life. get a great f-ing criminal defense lawyer you're going to need it. and then i hung up on him. >> seth: man, where -- where did this guy get his law degree does yale law school have a building on campus called the paulie walnuts memorial law library? [ laughter ] the only problem with that library, it's great, but as soon as you learn something there, you forget about [ laughter ] and as we've also discovered from these hearings, trump's cronies had such a clear consciousness of guilt that a lot of them were asking for preemptive pardons they knew they could be prosecuted, and they wanted trump to get them off the hook before that happened >> were you involved in or did you witness any conversations about the possibility of a blanket pardon for everyone involved in january 6th? >> i had heard that mentioned,

yeah >> dr. eastman e-mailed rudy giuliani and requested that he be included on a list of potential recipients of a presidential pardon. >> and are you aware of any members of congress seeking pardons? >> mr. gaetz was personally doing so since early december. >> suggest that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> he did. >> ms. hutchinson, did white house chief of staff mark meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> mr. meadows did seek that pardon, yes, ma'am >> how do you know that congressman gaetz asked for a pardon >> he told me. >> tell us about that. >> he told me he'd asked meadows for a pardon >> seth: at this point, it's easier to ask who wasn't looking

for a pardon "mr. president, here's a list of the people who want pardons -- mark meadows, rudy giuliani, matt gaetz, john eastman, the white house chef, the janitor, and that kid who mowed the lawn. do you remember him? yeah, he needs a pardon. i guess he maybe stole that lawn mower. [ laughter ] i just love the fact that matt gaetz was just going around telling people he asked for a pardon like it was cool and not incriminating. although gaetz does seem like a guy who doesn't know what he says makes him look bad. "hey, jeff was saying cold water makes his ween look small, but i was like, 'dude, mine looked small no matter what temperature the water is.' [ laughter ] am i right am i right herschmann, am i right?" "shut the [bleep] up shut the "f" up. [ laughter ] these hearings have sent a clear message to prosecutors in the justice department not only is there sufficient evidence to charge trump and his cronies with multiple crimes, there's also sufficient evidence that they were aware they were potentially committing crimes at the time that they were orchestrating the attempted coup if you were, say, a republican or trump supporter watching these hearings and you come to

the conclusion that everything these guys did was legal and above board, then i'm sorry, you're a - >> [ bleep ] excuse me. sorry. f-ing a-hole [ laughter ] >> seth: there's been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause we'll be right back with senator elizabeth warren, everybody! ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks," be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. ulcerative colitis per. put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable,... i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. check. when uc held me back... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc got the upper hand... rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots,

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♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: give it up for the fantastic 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause all this week, we've had a boston-based drummer sitting in with us. be sure to check out rock boyega from his band stl gld, later this year. for more information, head over to instagram @jmudrums jonathan ulman is here thanks for a great week, jonathan, we really appreciate having you our first guest tonight is a united states senator from massachusetts. please welcome back to the show, senator elizabeth warren [ cheers and applause ♪ >> seth: welcome to the show senator. well, it has been it has been a week of historic news. not all good, most bad

but, let's start with a silver lining judge ketanji brown-jackson becomes the first black woman on the supreme court. >> yes [ cheers and applause you know, our other first, she is the first public defender to sit on the united states supreme court. [ cheers and applause think about just for one second, think about what that means. this is a woman who has made public service her life and who is so committed to the principles of justice that she made her work about speaking up for people who couldn't afford to have lawyers, who weren't going to have a voice except for someone like her who stepped in and said, "that's my job and i'm going to be part of making this justice system work. she's going to be fabulous >> seth: that's a really interesting point, because i think we often talk about the hegemony of, like, how the backgrounds and sort of the racial backgrounds or the, you know, the gender background. but really that's such a interesting point, because everybody comes from it from the same side of the law

and of course, the law is multifaceted so that'll be great to have that new perspective. >> that's right. we have a lot of people who came from the side of all those corporations who desperately needed help. >> seth: yeah. >> and it's now it's really terrific to have it's kind of amazing it took us this long, right, that we have our first public defender. she's going to be terrific >> seth: unfortunately, it seems like a lot of her role will be to be one of three people on the side of 6 to 3 decisions you know, we had another one today about emissions. basically, the court ruled that the epa is very limited in the sort of emissions they can regulate from different plants what are the grander implications of a decision like this >> so, look, this is a supreme court that is basically out of control and they have decided that they don't like the way that we have, for decades now, tried to deal with climate change.

this has been a very pro-corporate court and this is actually not the first decision in that direction. they've been anti-union, they've been anti-consumer they've empowered corporations more than ever before, giving them religious liberty rights, of letting them contribute money, money, money to influence the political process. and i see this is just this is one more decision heaped on losing roe v wade. heaped on a gun decision that is going to make life more dangerous for all of our children, for all of our neighbors, for all of our loved ones it really is a time when the american people are losing confidence in the supreme court and for good reason. a court that is not grounded in law. not grounded in -- the

principles on which we have tried to build a country going forward, but instead a court that says that they're just going to substitute their own personal views and make the rest of america bend to it. >> seth: so this is a time where i feel like you must be hearing this a lot from your constituents, from the people you talk to. it seems like there's two reactions you have, which is to be sad or to be angry. do you feel like one is more helpful than the other >> yes >> seth: okay. >> sad you got a few hours for that >> seth: okay. >> i will go as much as 24 >> seth: to 2 to 24 hours. >> and that's it. that's it. 2 to 24 hours. and after that cold bucket of water, because now it is time to be angry and to channel that anger into action. and the reason for that is sad is about leaning back and giving up and we can't do that. there is a path out of this. it is not an easy path it is not a guaranteed win

but i guarantee you this, you don't get what you don't fight for. so it is powerfully important to take the anger over what the supreme court has done and channel it into action can we do the actions? >> seth: let's do the actions. >> all right let's do it. right now on roe the first one is there are people out there right now who are pregnant and who need help they need protection and we need to pour resources into helping them that means each of us volunteering money, volunteering time out to support the organizations that are trying to help people. the administration is stepping in, using all of its tools and i commend the president for stepping up, for example, on medication abortion, making that more widely available, protecting people who have to cross state lines in order to get help we should be looking at the fact that the federal government, biggest employer in the country, make sure that people have got time off from work and resources to travel. so we need to do things to

protect people who are pregnant now and who get pregnant next month and the next month because this is the urgent problem in front of us but the second thing we need to do is we got to focus like a laser on the election in november understand this small minority that wanted to overturn roe has been disciplined they have worked at this for nearly five decades. they lost and they got back up and they stayed in the fight and they helped all of those senators who help shepherd through these justices who swore until the world looked level that roe was settled law and that we don't disturb settled law. and as soon as they got the votes, they went ahead and did not just to chip away at roe, just blew the whole thing up we need to be just as committed,

just as focused on this election in november. two senators, if we pick up two democratic senators who will help us get rid of the filibuster, which the president has now said he's on board for that and who will give us roe v wade, two senators and yes, john fetterman, i am looking at you in pennsylvania. yes, mandela barnes, i'm looking at you in wisconsin. we get those two senators in, we hang on to the house and roe v wade will be the law all across america that's what we can get done. that's a fight worth having. [ cheers and applause >> seth: i think it's important. and i appreciate the optimism. what do you say to people who feel as though maybe democratic leadership did get caught a little flat footed from -- i mean, it did feel like this was coming for 50 years. now, maybe nobody thought it was going to happen. but we've certainly known for the last few months, based on the leaked draft, this was coming and it did seem like it took the white house maybe six days to

come out sort of with their plan why wasn't there a plan in place or was there and it was just slow to come out >> look, i think what matters is that we are using every tool in the toolbox and doing everything we can to protect people who are pregnant right now and need help but understand this, we have every single republican in the united states senate and the house has voted against roe v wade we actually have this -- nobody, nobody quite remembers this, just a few weeks ago, we actually voted this in the senate and every republican said, nope on roe v wade you know what? we've got elections coming up. we need to hold every republican accountable for those votes. >> seth: i have a lot more to ask you. we will be right back with more from senator elizabeth warren. [ cheers and applause ♪

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for a limited time kids eat free! and catch minions: the rise of gru. ♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: welcome back to "late night. we're here with senator elizabeth warren you are a former harvard law professor. how would you grade the legal argument that was presented for overturning roe v. wade? >> oh, bad >> seth: yeah. >> but, you know, i want to say bad, not just -- >> seth: real quick before we go on, were you a tough grader? >> yeah. >> seth: yeah? okay. >> yeah. >> seth: so just know if she gives it an "f," clarence thomas, it's probably a "d" from somebody else >> but it's still a "d." >> seth: okay, yeah. >> it's still bad. here's what really - one of the things that really troubles me about the way this opinion was written. you know, when you're out there to change something that has been precedent for half a century, you would expect to read an opinion that really is as grounded in law as you could possibly make it, that talks

about the restrictions, what you can't do, and ultimately really tries to persuade. this opinion doesn't do any of that this opinion basically cites a bunch of folks from the 1700s and says, "boy, that's the way we want to go. oh, i'm sorry. to a time when aristocrats ran the world, when the only people who had voices were white men, and when slavery was a way for people to make money that's not the america we're trying to build going forward. and the fact that this opinion was just such an in-your-face about people who are truly going to be hurt from it, people whose lives are going to be turned upside down, people who are poor, who are not going to have the opportunity to leave and get to another state, women of color who already have the highest

maternal mortality rates 14-year-olds who have been raped by their coaches mamas who are already working three jobs to try to take care of the families they've got. this opinion had nothing about the human impact of what it means to take away the decision that a woman makes about continuing a pregnancy and to insert instead the government just to come in callously and makes the decision instead of the person who is pregnant it troubles me to think how six people could say they have seized power and care so little about the people who will pay the price. >> seth: you know, there's been a lot of talk about the steps you could take to maybe change

the direction of the court, things like stacking the court, things like term limits. we talked about abolishing the filibuster these are things that when they're brought up, oftentimes people categorize as extremist positions. i certainly understand they sound extreme. do you think that as people watch the court take such extreme steps and make decisions that roll back precedent 50 years, do you think those extreme steps seem less extreme to people now? >> i think that that what we're watching is how many more people see this as an extremist court and see the kind of conditions that this tiny group of radicals are trying to impose on the rest of the country and the kind of threat they pose to all of us with a decision on guns, with a decision on abortion, with a decision on climate. now, i think that means the first thing we have to do is remind ourselves the

supreme court doesn't get the final word the final word rests with we, the people and that's why it's so important at this moment to be angry but to be focused in on that election in november two senators hang on to the house. >> seth: you're making it very easy to follow >> and we've caught this but it's so important because, seth, understand this, if we don't do that, they've already told us the direction they're headed in. they're not stopping at roe. they're not -- you didn't hear them at the end of this say, oh, we've got roe, the climate, and guns we're done." no clarence thomas already said, "we're coming after the lgbtq community. we are coming after contraception. we are coming after what people do in the privacy of their own homes and their intimate and family lives."

they are coming after the things we hold dear and when you connect that up with what's happened with the january 6th insurrection, it's not an exaggeration to say our democracy is truly at stake. if the republicans can seize power, they have made it clear that they stand behind donald trump, who wanted to be a dictator, tried really hard to get there and got really close what scares me is next time around they're going to figure out how to succeed at that and that's why what we do in november is so important >> seth: i want to try to end on a little bit more optimism we've got the 4th of july coming are you at least going to give yourself a break and barbecue? >> you know, a little barbecue, a little hiking. >> seth: oh, wow >> but you got to be back in the fight the next day >> seth: yeah. >> sorry that's how everything turns, right? >> seth: seems like 24 hours is about all the time you'll give anybody to do anything yeah >> yeah, that's --

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♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: our next guest is a best selling author and writer who is currently starring in the third season of "the umbrella academy," which is streaming now on netflix let's take a look. >> what are you their mascot >> ugnh, uh! >> more like their ringer. aah! gross, all right >> seth: please welcome back to the show cazzie david, everybody. ♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: cazzie, welcome back. although, i guess now welcome

back we've had you on the show, but you've never been in the studio. >> no, this is my first time in front of an audience ever. >> seth: wow >> yeah, and there's a lot of them >> seth: yeah. you noticed right away how many and there's not even light on them, but you can see their silhouettes and you can tell >> no, this like school-play nervous. [ laughter ] and everyone's my crush. >> seth: i feel like you're you have a demeanor about yourself that people probably can't tell when you're nervous, though. >> you think so? >> seth: yeah. i wouldn't guess right now that you're nervous >> i, like, asked the driver to get into an accident [ laughter ] >> seth: on the way here, so you'd have a good cover story? >> yeah. more, yeah just so i could die and not. >> seth: oh, you want to just. you didn't want to be late, you wanted to be a dead person >> death is fine like, let's just slow it down. >> seth: well, hopefully at the end of this, it will feel like it was better than dying [ laughter ] >> yeah. yeah >> seth: so you, i know you live in l.a., your sister romy, who i'm lucky enough to know as well, lives in the city. do you stay with her >> yeah.

so i've been staying with my sister any time i come to new york and, like, the level of fighting is just unbearable and it's about, like, the tiniest -- this happened actually last night. so i'm in her bedroom, right or, like, getting ready to go to sleep. and i go to get myself a glass of water and then she calls out, like, "hey, can you get me a glass of water, too?" which is fine. like, yeah, i'm going to get it anyway >> seth: sure. >> so i'm getting the water. and then she goes, "no, can you come here and get my glass?" [ laughter ] >> seth: by the way, i live with one of them. >> yeah, i know. but i'm trying not to fight with her because i'm like, i'm doing seth i have to have good energy. >> seth: it's her house. right. >> i just, i can't take it >> seth: yeah. >> so i go into the room and i hold my hand out to get her glass.

and then she gets her glass, which is filled with water, and she proceeds to drink it slowly while i'm waiting there. [ laughter ] and then she hands it to me and i'm like and that eyeroll >> seth: oh, yeah. >> that was it >> seth: no, that's. you know what? all right, so i'm the eye-roller in my family and everybody acts like the eyeroll came out of nowhere. >> it's like you made the eyeroll happen >> seth: yeah! the eyes were fine they were right here on that plane. and then you behaved in a way that forced them to go >> she said, "wow, you can't do anything for me. "it was a second." "i was drinking my water." also, there's, like, water etiquette. like, if you're going to ask someone to get you water >> seth: yeah. >> it has to be more convenient for them >> seth: yeah. >> you have to, like, have a stomachache. >> seth: yeah. you have to need water if they have a water, you can't -- if somebody said, "bring me a pie and i came in and they were

eating a pie, i'd be like, what's wrong with that pie?" >> it's like, how much do you need >> seth: how much water do you need >> so that was yeah. >> seth: all right >> that was one thing. and i ended with, like, us truly yelling at each other, like, that we wish the other wasn't even born. [ laughter ] >> seth: so that's a similarity we have. we are -- sorry, we live with water tyrants. >> yeah. >> seth: another thing we have in common, which is pretty cool, my mother-in-law and your mom are in a band together >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: this sounds like a joke, but it's a true thing. >> it's true >> seth: it's called a -- the name is so good, i kind of want to give you- >> it's hard because, like, i have trouble talking about this to, like, a group of people, let alone, like, on national tv. >> seth: yeah, because you're a little embarrassed about your mom's success? >> yeah. i'm very embarrassed about the band >> seth: they are -- they're a bunch of women who all play the ukulele. and, and the name of the band is - >> the ukuladies [ laughter ] and it started out as, like, a sweet hobby.

like, it was like aww. >> seth: nobody was -- there was nobody was a ukulady hater early on >> it was like, nice, you found yourself a little thing, you know and then they started recruiting people >> seth: yeah. >> and more and more >> seth: and there's now there's just too many ukuladies. >> and there are so many of them and they're out of control i feel like we're giving them too much power just by talking about them >> seth: well, my my wife sent a photo. she knew you were on, and she was like, "oh, my god, you should send this," you should show this when cazzie's on tomorrow." so this is a ukulelady rehearsal. and my daughter, my 9-month-old daughter, addie, was at rehearsal. and i feel like addie might be on our side with how she feels about these ladies so there's addie watching. and i really think this. so you want to see, this is the expression i think i give when i walk in on their rehearsal [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: it's like that's very much a face of like, "there's a lot of ukuladies here. >> no, the most violent thoughts i've ever had in my life has been towards my mom's ukulele. [ laughter ]

like, but i feel like, you know, if you know anyone who's over 60, just, like, protect them they're coming for them. and if you're looking to book the ukuladies, it's i think they're- >> they're really they will. >> seth: go anywhere >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. >> they'll do it anywhere. >> seth: i want to talk about "umbrella academy," you know, spoiler alert, if you haven't caught up, but i'll just say it. you died >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. >> it was quick. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: episode three >> yeah. >> seth: yeah. you die -- >> it wasn't because i was like, i mean, because i was so bad, but no, that's not why >> seth: no, because they write those scripts in advance they would have had -- >> it was written before >> seth: but you, you die. >> i need to explain this. >> seth: yes >> i go to the prosthetics team and they do a replica of your face before you die because it's going to be they're going to be a dummy of me dead and i said to them, i said, "you know, if you guys can just do me like a solid and make me look like on the prettier side of

dead," then. >> seth: very nice >> yeah. like, just like, subtle improvements, like >> seth: so that when people see the dead version of you, they're going to go like ay, yi-yi >> they'll be like they'll be like, oh, like this young, pretty, like, girl has perished like a cinderella. >> seth: yeah. where you would feel great empathy and loss by the beauty that has been taken from us too soon >> correct >> seth: yeah. and do you feel like they did a good job >> so that's the thing, i said this to them, i kind of charmed them i tried to make sure they would do it. they were like, "okay. and then i, you know, a little bit of the work is on me because they are replicating my face and they put the mask on me so i tried to look pretty i was like-- >> seth: right, so while oh yeah, you were doing, oh, that's good, so that was the face >> for, like, 2 hours. >> seth: okay, show us how okay, great. >> you know, like pretty >> seth: yeah, yeah, yeah. that was very, that position is definitely like your best. >> yeah. so, like, two weeks go by and my friend sends me a picture of the he, he says, "yo, like your prosthetic's done. and i said, "oh my god, like,

how do i look? and this is the image he sent me [ laughter ] and there was this like a lot like so first of all, like, obviously, like they're a talented prosthetics team. >> seth: yeah, they know what they're doing. >> but they also hate me like, it's like, not even like the worst-case scenario. like, my imagination wasn't even good enough for, like, the worst possible case. >> seth: yeah. now, i will say in their defense, they gave you a bangin' body >> yeah. no, that's - [ laughter ] and it was like anywhere i went, it was just like sitting there kind of. >> seth: and then i should note, it was on -- the dead version of you was on the show a lot >> it's more than me alive >> seth: yeah. because they, like, keep cutting to you dead. so like people in the end might like their memory of you on the show might be like this version. >> i was shocked while watching it because i was just like, "oh, there's more." "there's more of this than me. [ laughter ] >> seth: you do get to hang out

with the dead version of yourself, and you guys seem to be having a super fun time >> this was. >> seth: yeah. we i took that because i was so angry. yeah so >> seth: all right >> they put the self in, like, what that photo has done to my self image >> seth: yeah. >> that's what i see when i think of what i look like. and i actually am, when i pass by a mirror, i'm relieved. like, i'm like, "oh my god, i'm actually like, passable. like, it's fine. >> seth: you're more than passable you're very beautiful. the face you made is obviously you should do that one all the time >> yeah. >> seth: that's the best one thank you so much for being here it's always such a delight to see you. [ cheers and applause cazzie david, everybody. the third season of "the umbrella academy" is streaming now, on netflix. we'll be right back with more "late night. [ cheers and applause ♪ hashtag challenge. and everyone on social media is trying me. i'm trending so hard that “hashtag common sense” can't keep up. this is going to get tens and tens of views. ♪

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