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are backed up all the way into the maze. slow and go off the east shore freeway. >> there are advantages to being at work at 4:00 .. >> absolutely, no traffic. good morning to our viewers in the west. it's thursday, may 10th, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. applause and outrage as president obama changes his mind on same-sex marriage. we'll hear from activists on both sides and look at the political impact with former new york mayor rudy giuliani. >> air strikes against al qaeda overnight and john miller has new information on the double agent who ruined al qaeda's plot to bring down a u.s. airliner. i'm gayle king. john edwards trial emotional testimony from a friend of elizabeth edwards.
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>> as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's eye opener. you're world in 90 seconds. >> it is important for me to go ahead and affirm. i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> president obama makes history. and sparks a national debate. >> so did the president flip-flop as critics say or did he evolve? >> you really think this republicans might use this as an issue? >> push the rainbow button and launch gaymageton. >> marriage is a relationship between a man and woman. >> first time joe biden said something that obama didn't have to apologize for. amazing. the man suspected of killing a mother and oldest daughter to kidnap two young sisters has been rushed to the fbi's ten most wanted list. >> he could be anywhere in the united states and we are extremely concerned for the safety of the girls. >> a federal probe is reportedly
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under way into who leaked the story of the foiled al qaeda bomb plot. >> dozens of people have been killed in two blasts in the syrian capital damascus. it was supposed to be a cease-fire. >> prosecutors expected to rest their case against john edwards not testifying in the trial, mistress, rielle hunter. >> picking up pieces after a tornado ripped across the area. >> all that. >> dare devil walked across a high wire with extreme precision. >> what could i do to get back at nbc for firing am he inine i? i'll go on and ruin "america's got talent." >> can he get it? it's a chase. he pulls it in. >> and all that matters. >> pioneering hairstylist vidal sassoon has died. >> i hear you have a line of women's clothing come e ining c.
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will your wife wear these clothes? >> no. my wife is rich. >> welcome to "cbs this morning." it's being called a landmark moment for equality and also a political risk. president obama revealed on wednesday that he now supports same-sex marriage. >> it was a dramatic moment felt around the country and it is sure to affect his campaign for re-election. bill plante is at the white house where we begin our coverage this morning. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. good morning in the west. dramatic moment indeed. the president wrote in his book the audacity of hope he worried about being on the wrong side of history when this came to same-sex marriage. white house says he intended to show his support at a time of his choosing and are now annoyed that vice president biden forced the president's hand. >> it's important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think
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same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> reporter: president obama's change of heart on same-sex marriage has come only gradually. in 2008, he went on record opposing gay unions. >> i believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. >> reporter: more recently mr. obama said his feelings were constantly evolving. >> this is something that we're going to continue to debate and i personally am going to continue to wrestle with going forward. >> reporter: the white house stresses this is a personal decision for the president. he believes the federal government has no role. the question of same-sex marriage should be left to the states. but nothing is quite so simple in an election year. the president's change of heart could complicate his re-election effort. his likely republican opponent mitt romney supports a constitutional ban on gay marriage. romney stressed wednesday that unlike the president, he has not changed his mind. >> i have the same view on marriage that i had when i was governor and that i expressed many times. i believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman. >> reporter: while the
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president's advisers admit they don't know for sure how the announcement will play out politically, republicans like christian conservative activist ralph reid say the decision will help romney raise money from small donors and recruits volunteers. >> it gives the romney campaign a gift wrapped present as we go into the general election. >> reporter: popular support for gay unions increased in recent years. the country is now split on the issue. but 38 states now have laws defining marriage as between one man and one woman including several important swing states. larry from the university of virginia says that in the end same-sex marriage won't decide the election. >> this is mainly an election about the economy but there will be pluses for president obama in democratic blue states and minuses in republican red states. it may be a wash overall but there are political impacts. >> reporter: the president's advisers say they know there will be political fallout but don't think same-sex marriage will get the same kind of
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attention in the campaign as the tax issue or afghanistan. and the forced timing of the president's announcement helps him on one level. he's headed to hollywood tonight for the biggest fund-raiser in the history of the party at the home of george clooney. it is expected to raise about $14 million. charlie, erica? >> thank you very much. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani recently said the republican party's stance on same-sex marriage makes it look like it doesn't understand the modern world. mayor giuliani joins us here in studio 57. what do you think of this decision by the president at this time? >> well, i think it's a political decision. the president was for same-sex marriage before he's against it and now he's for it again. back in 1997 and '98 when he ran for state senate in illinois, weighs for same-sex marriage. when he ran for presidency, he became against same-sex marriage and now he's for it.
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i think it will help with his base. it will hurt a little in showing shifting positions that he'll take on a moral issue like this. he's for it, against it, for it. but i think it's only marginal. it depends on how this is going to play in ohio and how this is going to play in north carolina and how is this going to play in ten states that matter. >> so you are suggesting the president was always here he's just come to announce where he was in his own head. >> if he was there when he was running to state senate as a yung man and then he's running for president and he changes it completely, and now he's for it again, i think the president was always there, sure. i don't know if joe biden kind of forced him into it by making a mistake which wouldn't be unusual for joe biden or this was calculated. >> they say that it forced the president because he wanted to do it sometimes of his own choosing. there is this question. where do you think the country is terms of polls? >> where is the country in ten
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states that decide this election. he'll go to california tonight. big hero with the hollywood crowd doing this. doesn't matter. he'll win california. texas, going to be against it. doesn't matter. however, how does it play in ohio? how does it play in wisconsin? how does it play in north carolina? how does it play in virginia? it plays against him there. ohio just passed a big amendment banning same-sex marriage. >> you are closer to the president of the united states on this than you are to the likely republican candidate. >> i'm in the middle. i'm for domestic partnership. i signed the first law in america when i was mayor of new york and the second one. >> you are for civil marriage. >> i'm for marriage between a man and a woman. >> you are for civil marriage. >> that's the right distinction. under the laws of the state, gays and lesbians should be treated like everyone else. under the law of how you define
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marriage out of our religious tradition, moral tradition, ethical tradition and other things, i might be okay with but other people aren't, i would be willing to respect that. if new york wants to have it, which we did, i would prefer if we didn't but if north carolina doesn't want to have it, shouldn't be forced to have it. >> how much focus should be there on this issue in the campaign? you said in the past republican party should get out of the bedroom. you followed up that statement to say the republican party really needs to get back to its base and would be more successful if it focused on the economy, which john boehner was pushing toward yesterday. >> i think governor romney reflected that in his statement. he said it's a sensitive issue. he didn't talk about what people should believe but in terms of what he believed. for me personally, i favor marriage between a man and woman but said i won't make a dig deal out of this. that's really why romney is a
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good candidate for the republican party. this is not something he'll make a big issue out of. he shouldn't. it will work for or against the president on its own. republicans should stay the heck out of it. >> speaking of mitt romney because as we started this you were talking a little bit about for it and then against it and then for it again with president obama. you said last year talking about romney you never saw a guy change his position so many times so fast on a dime. >> i saw someone who changes it even faster. i think president obama doing this can moderate some of that criticism of mitt romney because it will be hard for the president to say my goodness, mitt romney changed his position on pro-choice and pro-life whereas he's changed his position dramatically on gay rights going back over a ten-year period. maybe in this sense it helps romney because it takes that issue out of the election. it will be hard for obama to criticize for being a shifter on positions when this is a major shift. >> there's some disagreement in terms of what the president seemed to be saying about his
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previous position. >> president came out running for state senate and said i'm for same-sex marriage. when he ran for president he said i believe it should be -- >> you think it's more of a political decision than personal decision influenced by family and friends as he said yesterday? >> now i'll play psychologist. i believe this is what president obama has always believed. i believe his position back when he ran for senate is an honest one. in between he took a dishonest position because he didn't think he could get nominated. he took the same position as hillary clinton took. hillary clinton had the same position i have. for marriage between a man and woman in favor of domestic partnership. i still think that's the right answer and then leave it up to states to decide. >> is this an idea whose time has come? >> we'll find out. its time has come in new york. it's time has not come in north carolina. that's why it's a wonderful country. states can have different views on these things. >> thank you very much. >> good luck.
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a great set and exciting program. >> we're glad you like it. come back. >> thank you. >> with us now from washington, chris hughes. he co-founded facebook and also worked on the president's 2008 campaign. in a recent profile, "the new york times" calls hughes and his fiance a significant driving force in american politics. good morning, chris hughes. >> hey, charlie, how are you? >> you're a friend of the president. you worked with the president. tell us what's gone on with him in this evolution he spoke to yesterday because he said i was influenced by family and friends and i would assume friends included you. >> well, there's no doubt it's historic to have the president of the united states come out and say clearly that all loving couples should be able to get married. it's affirming and energizing and i think really important for the country that he's showing the type of moral leadership on this issue in addition to the
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political leadership on it. it's very inspiring. >> tell us about conversation you may have had with him though and how he felt about this. the former mayor of new york city suggested this was a political decision and not a personal decision. >> from what i've seen in my own experiences with the president and from my friends who are in the administration, he's always been absolutely embracing of whether it's staff, friends, family, who are in committed relationships. i think that being who he is, it's very difficult for him to recognize those types of people in those relationships and not believe that they should be entitled to the same rights and institutions that everyone else is. every time i see the president, whether it's in whatever context, he almost always asks me about my own fiance, sean,
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and vice versa. that type of respect and personal understanding goes a long way. >> it is still a very divisive issue for many americans. how much of a role do you think it will play in this upcoming election and how much of a role should it play? >> i think this is energizing. this is one of those issues which i think now majority of americans see as a basic civil rights issue. anyone who is opposed to marriage equality was not likely to vote for the president in the first place and for lots of people who see this as civil rights issue in some ways defining civil rights issue of a generation, it's incredibly energizing. it means that from a political perspective there's a whole segment of people who are now all the more enthused and more ready to get out and knock on doors and, you know, recruit their family and friends and get them registered to vote and get ready to go out in november.
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i think as much as i think this was a personal decision on the president's part, i do think it has political ramifications and on the whole is positive. >> there's also the argument as you well know that opponents are more likely to be energized than supporters in this kind of thing. >> you know, i don't buy that. whenever i go around particularly on college campuses in the country, what i find is people of course care about jobs, jobs, jobs and the economy and there's no question that's the most important little issue in this election cycle. often the number two issue that people talk about not just to me but in general and you see it in some of the polling is marriage equality and i think that's for people who not only the administration needs to go out and vote but also needs to become part of the movement to re-elect the president. i think that era of american politics when this was
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energizing to opponents rather than supporters is cast. it's a new era. >> it's good to have you here. thank you very much. we will look forward to come back to you as this political campaign continues. >> thank you for having me. >> in yemen, security officials say five al qaeda militants were killed by an air strike earlier this morning. they were staying in a house in southern yemen in an area that al qaeda has controlled for a year. the attack happened just a few days after a cia drone killed a senior al qaeda leader in yemen. there's no word from washington on whether the u.s. carried out this morning's attack. meantime, we are learning more about the saudi double agent who infiltrated al qaeda in yemen and told the cia where to find the man who was killed over the weekend. >> he betrayed the terror group last week breaking up an airline bomb plot. john miller, former deputy director of national intelligence joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. as you see this story continues to develop and it is something
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that as you look at it and say, what is the life of a source like that in an organization like this and what else can we learn about it? the source was debriefed for days. information he gave was used to launch a drone strike in yemen that took out a key commander for al qaeda of the arabian peninsula. when the story of the unraveling of the airline plot leaked to the press, it also likely reached ibrahim hassan al asiri. >> was this operation leaked to the press too early for us to find the bombmaker. if he's still around in a year, that's a critical question everyone will ask about. >> al asiri is still at large and believed to be training others to build bombs using his designs. >> he has another wave of bombmakers we need to be worrying about. from my perspective, he's at the top of the list of our kill
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capture priorities. >> reporter: now director of national intelligence james clapper and members of congress are calling for an across the board review of how this information got out. >> i don't think those leaks should have happened. there was an operation in progress. i think the leak is regarded as very serious. >> reporter: the question also remains what happened to the source whose credited with foiling this operation, the 2010 plot to take down cargo planes bound for chicago with printer bombs and possible attacks at the u.s. embassy in yemen. >> how do we get him but also his family out of a situation where they are guarded from scrutiny with new lives and names and whether it's in the united states, europe or elsewhere they are not under constant threat. >> aqap, the terrorist group, is scrambling right now to figure out what did this source now and what places did he see and what
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access es did he have because those are things as you see drone strikes continue that give them vulnerability. >> thank you, john. good to see you. time to show you headlines from around the globe. "the new york times" looks at an fda report on the long-term safety of bone building drugs. the new fda analysis suggest caution but doesn't have specific recommendations for millions of women that use them. >> the houston chronicle reports texas children's hospital can perform
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>> a friend of elizabeth edwards breaks down testifying that john edwards' wife was afraid she would die unloved. we'll hear how elizabeth edwards confronted campaign officials who were paying off the candidate's mistress. >> the fbi puts a new suspect on its ten most wanted list. a man accused of killing a mother and daughter and taking her two other children. >> we are spending day and night 24 hours a day to bring you back home to tennessee. >> we'll have more on the search for adam mayes. you're watching "cbs this morning."
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america's beverage companies are delivering. mrs. clinton was out of the country on official business last week. she attended a number of public events without any makeup on. here's the story from "cbs this morning" today. >> secretary of state hillary clinton is back from an overseas trip that took her to three countryings over the weekend but it's not her diplomacy that's makin news, it's her appearance. >> she appeared with no makeup, natural hair and glasses and the secretary makes no apologies. >> this whole thing's been blown out of proportion. >> might not have hurt to put on a little foundation. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." prosecutors at the john edwards trial say they'll finish their case today without calling his
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former mistress as a witness. one unable to speak for herself here, elizabeth edwards. elizabeth edwards' close friend, former campaign spokeswoman cried on the witness stand as she described elizabeth's fears in her last days. she was concerned there won't be a man around to love her. >> everybody felt the pain miss edwards must have felt. they look over at the guy who caused that pain, john edwards, and i think that hurt any sympathy he might get from this
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jury. >> reporter: now deputy communications director for president obama, said elizabeth couldn't believe her husband fathered rielle hunter's baby. i would always respond, no, no, no, he is lying to you, she said. it was difficult to watch a person i cared about be completely consumed by this. palmieri also told jurors about a confrontation in a iowa hotel room in 2007. she testified elizabeth found out campaign finance manager fred baron and his wife were providing assistance to rielle hunter and she confronted them both about it with john edwards present. she said, rielle is a loose cannon and we don't know what should do. one expert says the key to that exchange is palmieri's assertion that john edwards heard the whole conversation. >> she says he was in to him, you're
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deluted. >> erin moriarty is also reporting on the edwards trial. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. i think it was a good day, if you want to call it a good day, for the prosecution. but i think there are going to be a lot of court watchers who will be disappointed today because the prosecution has said they're on schedule to rest their case today and there will be no rielle hunter. the speculation is over. she will not take the stand, at least for the prosecution today. >> so, she's not going to take the stand, erin. does that tell people the prosecution feels, obviously, they feel their case has been
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laid out well enough or is there some other strategy here? >> i think they thought she was too much of a wild card. i think that's been the talk all the way through. she helps the prosecution's case but also hurt. i think the most important part of this trial is about to happen right now. it's going to be between the prosecution's case and the defense. i think the defense is going to ask the judge to either throw out the entire case, which is probably not likely, but certainly parts of the case. and i think that there is a good argument some of the elements of six charges against john edwards may not stand. think about the conspiracy. he was charged with conspiracy, conspireing with both rachel bunny mellon and fred baron. very little intent and the evidence of intent came out in this trial about what their intent was. there was really no that i can recall that indicated all three were together. it will be very interesting to see what the judge does at the
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end of the prosecution's case when the defense goes and asks them to actually rule on their motion. >> if the trial continues, is it likely john edwards would take the stand in his own defense? >> reporter: boy, that's so tough, charlie. some people feel because of these last two witnesses wendy button and jennifer, they were so strong that john edwards may have to take the stand. we all know that it's very dangerous for a defendant to take the stand and it's really up to the prosecution to approve the case. reminded of that. >> erin moriarty, thanks very much. it's great to see you. >> reporter: thank you. the fbi just added a new american to its ten most wanted list. we'll take a look at the seven for adam mayes, the man accused of killing a woman and her daughter and kidnapping her two other children. tomorrow, johnny depp talks about "dark shad he doughs." stay with us.
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♪ we have a presidential race going on. both president obama and mitt romney are fighting very hard to win over hispanic voters. yeah. obama keeps pointing to his record on immigration. and romney keeps pointing to his front lawn and saying, nice work, jesus. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there is a new name on the fbi's ten most wanted list. adam mayes is accused of murdering a mother and daughter two weeks ago and taking the woman's two younger daughters. >> an intense multistate manhunt continues this morning. mark strassmann is in guntown, mississippi, where the murder victims were found. >> reporter: good morning. here in mississippi, officials
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say they have reason to believe the two younger bain children are still alive and with adam mayes and for law enforcement, it's a race against the clock to find the man they're calling armed and extremely dangerous. >> we believe adam mayes could be anywhere in the united states, and we are extremely concerned for the safety of the girls. >> reporter: the fbi will intensify its search again today for adam mayes, one of the most wanted men in america. he's suspected of killing family friend jo ann bain and her 14-year-old daughter adrienne in the garage of their tennessee home and kidnapping 12-year-old alexandria and 8-year-old kaliyah. mayes mother-in-law says he believed he was their father and was obsessed with them. >> my daughter said, he lives, eats and breathes nothing but these two children. >> reporter: charges against mayes and his wife were upgraded to murder. she claims she saw her husband kill in cold blood. according to court documents, theresa told police, both
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murders were directly part of the kidnapping of alexandria and kyliyah and she drove mayes, the two bodies and two youngest bain girls to uniontown, mississippi, where mayes was seen last caught on surveillance video at a convenience store. investigators again searched the area around mayes' mississippi home wednesday but say he could be hiding anywhere. >> i must emphasize adam mayes has ties to texas, south carolina, north carolina, florida and arizona. >> reporter: the reward for
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vice president biden says will and graid grace got people to think differently about same-sex marriage. we'll speak with the show's co-creator. you may think your job is stressful but research says it
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>> two weeks ago josh hamilton hit four home runs. look what he did last night. the texas slugger is getting flack for this stunt during a rain delay. some fans say he could have hurt himself. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> i think it looks like a lot of fun. largest slip and slide i've seen. don't you try it, though. we don't need you getting hurt. today a panel of fda advisers votes on whether to approve the first drug to protect high-risk people from hiv infection. the pill, truvada, has been used for eight years to treat patients already infected with the virus. it costs $900 a month and does have some side effects. time for this morning's "healthwatch" with dr. holly phillips. new good morning in today's "healthwatch," are you sick of your commute? turns out commuting could make
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a little slip. and that's why i don't walk on tight ropes. he's planning to walk the tight rope over niagara falls next month, so this is a demonstration in baltimore yesterday. he did make it across safely. welcome back to can be "cbs this morning." >> that's what wallendas do. >> still. my stomach's in knots for him. gayle king joins us near the control room -- in the control room. what's next? >> thank you. i knew exactly what you meant. how are the black and latino communities reacting to president obama voicing his support of same-sex marriage? will it change how they vote in the next election? bill whitaker has that story. creator of "will & grace" is here. he landed at 4:00 this the morning. he said he's tired but he wanted to be here. "will achd grace" just got a shout out from joe biden. we're advancing this conversation. very curious to see what max has to say today. and he's a two-time emmy winner and stars in "the big bang
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theory," jim parsons live in studio 57. remember all the bad press pit bulls have been getting? recently in maryland they said pit bulls are inherently dangerous. now they're getting good press for a change. what did one heroic dog do to save his owner's life? pit catch us on facebook, twitter and google plus. your local news is next.
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>> time for the news headlines. send a clear investigators are looking into a five alarm fire that burned overnight damaging three town homes. firefighters managed to protect nearby homes, nobody was injured. facebook ceo mark succored continues to speak with potential investors as his menlo park based company prepares to go public which is expected friday next week. the mercury news says he will go public which is expected friday next week. the mercury news says he will meet tomorrow,,
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way towards the bay bridge toll plaza. backed up all the way into the maze. over to the maps, it looks like we are a little sluggish at the bay bridge. slow on northbound 880 due to an accident at whipple. also reports of an accident on 80 near carlson. you can see on the maps, slow in both directions >> just a couple of patches of fog along the immediate coast line. not a bad way to start the day with plenty of blue sky but the temperatures running a little bit cool. 41 in napa, 56 in san jose. a couple of patches of fog towards the coast. the '70s in oakland, '80s in san jose. the,,,,,,,,
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today president obama says today that he supports gay marriage which is great news for the gay community. mitt romney responded by restating his own views on marriage. marriage should only take place between two consenting rich people. then he said -- then he said he had no problem with gay people because one of his best friends owns san francisco. >> okay. welcome back to cbs this morning. i'm gayle king. >> and i'm charlie rose with erica hill. president obama is on the record in favor of same-sex marriage. supporters are happy. but he also runs risk of driving away voters who supported him four years ago. >> and that includes black and
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latino voters. bill whitaker reports on the impact of this announcement in california. >> reporter: supporters of same sex marriage in san francisco cheered president obama's change of heart. other parts of his coalition weren't pleased at all. robert peco is computer technician at a church in orange county, california that, serves a largely hispanic congregation. he voted for president obama in 2008. this year -- >> no. no. no, i don't. >> i think it changes the minds of many people. >> reporter: this woman is the pastor's assistant. she troubled by president obama's endorsement of same-sex marriage. >> we're grounded in the word of god. and i'm against gay and lesbian marriages. >> reporter: hispanic and black voters were some of mr. obama's staunchest supporters in 2008. he won 95% of the black vote. but as black californians were
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voting for mr. obama four years ago, many also voted to uphold the state's ban on same-sex marriage. >> first of all, the church doesn't have support same-sex marriage. >> reporter: john hunter, pastor of l.a.'s first ame church says the bible is clear on the issue. the 2012 election is about much more than one issue. >> our concern is about jobs, is about housing and the foreclosure crisis. >> in 2008, president obama beat john mccain by 2-1 among hispanic voters. but his problem this year is in the swing states where the election is likely to be decided and where a recent poll shows him running neck and neck with republican mitt romney. any loss of key coalitions in swing states could swing the election. the white house is hoping the loyalties of one demographic will outweigh the defections of another. for cbs this morning, bill whitaker in los angeles.
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with us now from los angeles, dennis prayinger, leeting conservative radio host on talk radio. good morning. >> tell me what you think the political fallout from this is and where you think the country is on this issue of same sex marriage? >> well, they're both related and they're both separate. the political fallout will ultimately, i don't think accrue well for the president's chances for re-election. he may get re-elected anyway. this will not benefit him. we always hear that polls show about 52% to 48% in redefining marriage or 50/50. we were told it was 50/50 in north carolina and it was 61/39. and that was a state that went for president obama in the last election. i don't think it will be good for him. i think it will energize all of the christians who have misgivings about voting for a mormon. >> dennis, you wrote an article that can you be against same-sex marriage and not be anti-gay.
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a friend of mine told me recently it's sort of like saying to a black person, listen, you want you to sit at the back of the bus but i'm not anti-black. a lot of gays i keep hearing are not understanding your distinction. what do you mean? >> i mean it with utter sincerity knowing gays so well and being -- having in my extended family a wonderful lesbian couple with a child. it's not the same as in the back of the bus. it's the same as -- i have a better analogy. it would be like saying i prefer that married people raise children to single people. that doesn't mean that single people are inferior to married people. >> and in the vain of that conversation, it comes up often, too, that people say yes that may be ideal for people that you have two loving parents. but it can't always happen that way. so when people bring this up about being civil marriage versus a religious marriage, does that change things at all in the minds of the evangelical
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voters you just spoke about? >> what would change their minds? >> if this is about a civil marriage, not a civil union, but a civil marriage. obviously you can't lekt within a clutch a synagogue, a mosque -- >> no it won't change people's minds. society defines marriages. this notion that only a church or synagogue defines a marriage is unfair to atheists and secular people. they want -- they want the society to define just as it always has. however your religion defines it is your business. but how society defines marriage is society's business. >> so it's a -- if the definition in society is changing, at what point -- >> if it changes, it changes. but the fact is that wherever people have been allowed to vote, they don't want to redefine marriage in what to be intellectually honest is the most radical way in a marriage is ever redefined. and if love is the only issue, there is no answer i've ever
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received to the question why not allow a person to love two people and marry them? i've never gotten an answer. i've debated gay activist leaders. they always skip on to another topic. but once we have shattered the male-female ideal for marriage, then everything should be allowed. >> let me come back to the politics for a moment. barney frank said this kind of issue, once you pass and the president takes a stand, you find out that it is not as controversial and that it is more popular. and that it will not be a major issue in the campaign. >> well, i don't think that they will talk about it a lot. but i believe it will be an issue in a lot of people's minds as i said evangelicals. in my state of california, blacks voted heavily to amend the constitution of california, to define marriage as between a man and a woman. it may not be spoken about a lot, i think it will effect people's voting.
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>> might it also energize president obama's supporters who might have had some misgivings about him and knowing that he was with them but had not expressed that idea as well as they wanted him to? >> i don't believe that, even if it energizes them, they would have voted anyway. the folks on the left politically, socially, have nowhere to go. so they would vote for president obama anyway. but there are others who will say that this is very important to them and, frankly, it is very important. whether or not society has male-female marriage or not is one of the most fundamental questions that society has to face. >> dennis, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> when vice president biden offered support for same sex marriage, he said a ground breaking television sitcom was a major influence for him and other americans. >> i think "will & grace" did more to educate the american public than almost anything
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anybody's ever done so far. and i think people fear that which is different. now they're beginning to understand. >> with us now is the emmy award winning co-creator of "will" & grace". when you heard vice president biden say that, you didn't start the show out of social and political commentary. >> we're not be activists in any way. my writing partner of 22 years and i wrote this show because it was a story that we were familiar with and it was a story we were living. and it was really just a happy accident that there turned out to be some social impact to the show. but our job was only to make people laugh anden to the taken as many people as we could. >> despite what the vice president said, do you believe it had a significant impact? >> i don't really think that's my job to say. i will be honest with you. i love sitting in a room and
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letting all of you talk about it and i'll smile as i hear all of these nice things said about the show and what it's doingen but for me that, just was never really my job. my job was never to teach. i just lucked out that thing that i was the most interested in ended up having an impact. >> and you like what the president said? >> i'm very happy with the president. i think that, you know, it extends his message of hope and, you know, there are little boys out there who now not only get to dream that they will some day be president but that they get to dream that some day that little boy can mary a president. >> it was interesting, max. earlier this week you were critical of him. you said he's evolving and that didn't sit right with you. so when you heard he made the announcement, your initial reaction was what? >> i mean i was pleased with him. i thought that president was speaking his truth. my issue with the president was
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that i never felt that using a word like evolving seemed honest. this is a brilliant man. he's surrounded by the best and the brightest. i just don't believe that this guy was evolving on the issue. i think he understands discrimination firsthand and this isn't what really felt in his heart. that was my impression always. >> now like you said, he's speaking to you. how much of this -- your goal want to teach with the show. but people learn things in many different ways, from things they watch. how much do you think this will be an issue moving forward? how much do you hear about it where you are in terms of what this does for a person's vote? >> look, i don't really -- i don't think this is as much of an issue as, you know, your previous guest would suggest. i think all of that is kind of a doomsday red herring. you know, no one's voting for these social reasons.
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they're voting because they're looking for a leader. and they're looking for a great leader. and i think that we watched president obama lead in an exquisite way this week. and i really -- i have to say, i think that man became a hero for a lot of young men and women in this country who really are not bored. >> would they have been less enthusiastic vote for him if they had not said this at this moment? >> i don't know. i mean i think he had to say what he had to say when he said it. >> because? >> because we can't afford another young person killing themselves in this country. and every day that men like president obama don't speak up, we take that risk. and he's kind of helping to stop that. >> why did it take him so long do you think? >> look, you know, i'm an ambitious guy. he's an ambitious guy. he has a big job. he wants to keep the job. i mean we understand what was going on. and so they tried the material
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on the town. they said let joe do it. >> he emphatically denied that. they didn't set him up to do that. he said what he said forced them to make a decision that they hoped to make later approaching the convention. >> they also have a fully functioning white house that is in a hill somewhere that we don't know anything about. i mean, you know, this is a very well organized machine. i -- i think that my sense is that this was calculated. >> you look at the polls and still half and half. what happened in north carolina recently. >> that's a shame. >> to that you say what? >> i say that i think a lot of these people are going to regret the position that they're taking right now. i think they're going to
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this is what is interesting about live television. we had a discussion that adds to the understanding of what we've been talking about. max, you said -- >> we were at a private function in los angeles about two weeks prior to the "meet the press" airing this sunday. and vice president biden was talking to a small group. and he made the reference to "will & grace" in that room and called me out at that moment. and he was also being recorded. he made a big -- >> recorded where? >> he was being recorded by a white house -- by a white house staffer. >> he said to you what? >> it says to me this is all very choreographed. look, i'm just a man who experienced this. but vice president biden made it very clear that day these were his views. so much so that they wanted to
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record him. >> sum total is the white house should not have been surprised by what he said on "meet the press." >> it just doesn't seem right to me. it was verbatim what he said three weeks earlier. >> and, yesterday he was trying out the material on you? >> he was testing the material out of town. he took it to a larger house which was "meet the press." it was verbatim what he said on "meet the press." the influence that "will & grace" had on his decision. >> everybody knew it at the time. thank you. >> it's a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you. >> i want to update you. bill plant actually just spoke with a senior white house official and asked her about the comments from vice president biden. that official said i promise this was not an intentional trial balloon on the subject of same-sex marriage. again that, coming from senior white house officials just a little bit ago to our own bill plant. just ahead on cbs this morning, your chance to buy a little piece of paradise, an entire town in montana could be yours.
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>> good morning. today fire crews work on a hot spot from a massive fire in santa clara. investigators will access, assess the damage this morning. the fire destroyed three town houses that were under construction. a vietnamese activists from san jose goes on trial today accused of felony assault during an anticommunist stunt. he is accused of dressing up in drag and using pepper spray on a vietnamese singer back in july of 2010. a marin county teenager is due in court over a clear hearing
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>> the morning drive is heating up. we have a few hot spots, one of them along the east bound.
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traffic is slow and go in both directions on the west shore freeway. northbound 880 stop and go as well. 25, almost 30 minutes to the maze. elsewhere along westbound 237, lots of sluggish conditions and you can see brake lights as you head over the connector road. >> we're looking good around the bay area, a lot of sunshine shone up in most spots. we do have a couple of patches of fog to the immediate coast line. as we head to the afternoon will see great weather but by the afternoon, still in the '80s many spots. 68 degrees in san francisco. still a bit temperatures begin,,,,,,,,
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♪ >> born in a small town. welcome back to "cbs this morning." the u.s. postal service has had a change of heart, backing off its plans to close as many as 3700 rural post offices. >> and that includes the post office in pray, montana. a tiny town that's actually now for sale. ben tracy spoke with the current
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owner. he's with us this morning, ben is. >> $1.4 million in los angeles might get you a two-bedroom, two-bath house. here in new york you'd be lucky to get a two-bedroom apartment but in montana it gets you an ntire town.ana it gets you an ♪ >> reporter: when you live out here in big sky country, there is no sense in living small. so, this is your town? >> yep, this is it. welcome to pray. >> reporter: barbara walker owns an entire town. all five acres of pray, montana. she collects rent from the other ten people who live there. >> i'm a one woman show, so i decided, okay, if i have to be the maintenance man and the dog catcher and the sanitarian, i'm going to be the mayor, too. >> reporter: pray was founded in 1909, named after a montana
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congressman. barbara walker's family has run it since 1993. not much has changed. can you take us inside? >> yeah. welcome to the 1950s. >> wow. it is vintage. >> reporter: the general story seems frozen in time. before a new highway was built, this was a popular stop on the road that leads to yellowstone national park. >> you had grand plans to reopen this stoor. what happened? >> well, i lost half my plan, my help. >> reporter: walker lost her husband, i don't knowy, to cancer in 2006. trying to revive pray alone was too much work so she's telling the entire town at an auction in june. all five acres, including her house, for $1.4 million. last month the town of buford, wyoming, sold in 11 minutes. a vietnamese man bought the one-person town for $10 million. pray is built on high hopes the railroads pushed west.
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many of those towns are long gone but pray has kept its name on the ahmadinejad map for one reasonable reason. what makes this town official? >> zip coast, that's the only reason. it was the reason pray was pray in 1909 and the reason it's called a town today. >> reporter: when you pull into this tiny town, the post office is the first thing you notice. the zip code on the front of the building is a point of pride. she's lived here for almost 50 years. this does seem to be a little slice of america that doesn't quite exist anymore. >> true. yeah. it's true. so, we're just trying to, you know, keep our boot straps tied to that. you know, pchs we can. >> reporter: as for bash are walker, she plans to op move and open a billiard school in bozeman, montana. how hard is it going to be to leave this? >> not easy.
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time to close the chapter and let somebody else take it to the next chapter vrt someone who can honestly say, they own this town. >> no takers yet. >> no takers yet. but she's putting it up for auction and i think sheet going to get something. >> how were they able to keep the post office? >> it's amazing. this is a town of ten people and they have a post office. they tell me it's political connections over the years in the valley -- >> political connections for ten peple. i like that. >> somebody's got a good connection. also because the town is called pray. no one wants to be the guy who kills the post office in pray, montana. >> i totally get that. i like seeing the sign pray with the arrow going that way. lucky us, i hear you'll be back tomorrow. >> whether you like it or not. we went out to moab, utah, and we did high lining. you see these guys here. unlike a tight rope, they're
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walking on this line that is slack and going back and forth. i had to do this version where you hang on the wire because i can't really walk on it. >> did you have some sort of safety device? you had to. yes, please? >> yes, because my mother would kill me if i did not. i wore a harness. they said, you're triple backed up on this line. i said, if the whole line goes down -- >> my question to you is, why you do that? >> you can't go out there and interview these guys all day long who are walking on this and just stand on the rocks. >> the good news is, you came back to tell us about it. i look forward to tomorrow. >> good piece. america's favorite loveable nerd is here, jim parsons, america's favorite loveable nerd[ teen ] times are good, aren't they, kids?
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jim parsons is here in studio 57. you know him, you love him, i know, as sheldon cooper. it's true, on the hit cbs comedy "the big bang theory". >> jordan, what channel is nasa tv? >> 289 between game show network at 288 and east coast feed of the disney channel on 290. >> i love his memory. it's so sexy. >> sheldon, what are the p>> dried potatoes, vegetable oil, corn flour, wheat salt, maltoedextron empb, starch and my favorite, uniformity. >> next week he returns to his roots in theater starring on broadway in "haervey." nice to see you. >> we got to see you last week when you did the tony nominations. >> what's wrong with your voice? >> apparently it's allergies. >> are you in pain? >> i'm not in pain.
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>> it could turn into a sexy morning thing. >> i'm no kathleen turner. >> are you a nerdy geek or just play one on tv? >> i'm a little probably geeky, but i'm not necessarily nerdy. and i would define the difference -- >> i was going to -- >> i'm not smart enough to be nerdy and geeky. i definitely have to pick one. >> why do you pick geeky? >> you know what, i'm probably more dorky than either of those, so i consider geeky closer to dorky than nerdy closer to dorky. >> you know what fascinates me about you on that show is the dialogue, because i wonder, do you have to have great memberization skills or a tutorial book? when i listen to you, it's very complicated. >> it certainly can be. it's a combination -- i spend a great deal of my time
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memorizing. had they change dialogue before tape day i spend my night agonizing. writer tend to put it in a way there's a certain -- probably because of the comedy, a rhythm to it. once you've latched onto this rim em, those words come out of your mouth. >> and come out with confidence that you can pronounce them. that would be my biggest fear. tonight's the seen finale. >> there is. >> a little expectation about what's going to happen. >> great expectations for matrimony, space travel, and i don't know if i can tell you either has lift-off but you'll be introduced. >> tell us what will happen. >> you have a right to know. >> no nope, we're not going to do it. let's talk about broadway. i saw you "in the normal heart,"
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i was in seat k-10 1 saying, go! >> i try to ignore that but thank you president thing fascinating to me, that was an education. there was so much about the aids history i did not know and i thought you were a knockout. i'm thrilled you're coming back. >> i had a lot of people, and some said, you should stop here. you don't want to see the other side of broadway but it made me thirsty to do more. as soon as the opportunity back in november came up to do qult harv "harvey" and i said yes. said, plan my summer around this because this is wonderful. >> you're excited about being back on freeway or the piece? >> both, frankly. i was excited to do theater. for me, it's nothing like it. that's what i've done most of my life, still to this point. specifically with harvey, this
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character is to -- such a good person. he's such a warm person. he's such a -- he tries to connect with other human beings. that's just at face value. for me playing somebody at my day job who is the opposite of that, it was a no-brainer. >> that's what's so great about ak acting. i was reading that you at one point wanted to be a weatherman. i can't imagine that. >> i was living in houston, texas, where they get tropical storms and hurricanes and i was fascinated by it, fascinated by the drama frankly. my mother would always say, this is not a good thing. i know, i know. i'm excited. i did take meteorology in college. dy fail that class because of low attendance. >> well, you know, you do have to -- >> i didn't do the work. >> you've got to go to class to get the grades. >> you do have to go. i hope your voice feels better later on. glad to know you're not in pain.
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jim parsons and haefb begins previews on friday, starting friday, map 18th and you can watch the season finale -- he says it's good. >> it is. -- tonight at 8:00/7:00 central on cbs. we have sad news to report. vidal sassoon died yesterday. he was born into a poor family, spent time in an orphanage but changed the way so many of us look. >> if you don't look good, we don't look good. >> reporter: at its peak vee id sassoon brand earned $500,000 a year. >> gets your hair clean and sexy. >> reporter: sassoon is credited with cutting women free from hot rollers and hair dryers and weekly trip to the salon. his life's work began with a premonition from his motor
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quote, i thought i'd be a soccer player but mother said i should be a hairdresser. and as often the mother got her way. nick chavez, celebrity hairstylist in beverly hills with worldwide brand now sold on quk credits sassoon with starting an industry. >> because of that man i've been able to do what i do. i used to watch him and say, i'm going to be just like him. >> in 2011 sassoon spoke with "cbs this morning." >> when i walked into the salon, there were so many pretty girls. i thought, well, we'll give this a try. >> reporter: his first salon opened in london 1964 but during the '60s he carved out his place in pop culture. the b paired with the minnie skirt, the style defined the era, mostly in "the rosemary's baby".
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>> it's vee vidal sassoon and very up to date. >> reporter: he developed a line of hair care products but he sold his interest interest to dedicate his life to fillon throwfy. earned commander of order of british empire. this one-time shampoo glass class and dignity. >> i wanted everybody to have good hair. >> thank you. >> it wasn't just the rich lady's pleasure. >> he was definitely a game-changer in the hair industry. i liked that slogan, if you don't look good, we don't look good. >> the dorothy hamel -- >> yes, the bob. >> there's a documentary out about him very recently made. >> sad nose today. james mcinerney is here to give us a crash from,,,,,,,,,,,,
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really get your nose right in there. really -- citrus. stronger. passion fruit. and -- oh, there's this faint like asparagus and there's just a fodder of like a nutty cheese. >> wow. >> i remember that scene. you never go wrong with passion fruit and asparagus. the wonderful movie "sideways" introduced many of us to the taste of art wining. james mcinerney has been practicing that for 30 years. >> we know him from his classic
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"bright lights, big city " and one of the best wine critics around which he put into "the juice." welcome. >> good morning. you do have a love affair with wine. >> i do. it actually started when i was writing my first novel in the '80s. i was studying with raymond kafsher at syracuse university. i had a job at a wine store to make end meet as a clerk. and and i would take a bottle home every night. that was a tradition among the clerks. i started browsing in the library the owner had that. >> and voila. >> it became a has beeny, a compassion that got out of trouble. >> was some music event? >> that was probably my great wine person and my first real
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date. took my true love to a restaurant in lennox, massachusetts, called the log cabin. i proudly orred the only bottle i knew on the list, which was metuse, rosa, the buddha shaped bottle. i can say, i'm not sure i enjoyed wine more than that night. >> i will confess, i don't drink. i don't know anything about wine between boone's farm strawberry hill and the rosa. >> we're going to need more time than this. >> so, here's my question -- >> take this home and do some reading. >> i did, i did. i'm like, is this book in english? how do you help us jd the pleasure -- and i know -- i know some very serious wine drinkers. the pleasure of it. >> not only is the book in english, but i like to think it
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is in a language which is a common vernacular. the reason i decided to do this, my friend dominique browning, editing "house & garden" some years ago asked me to write about wine. i said, i'm not an expert. she says, that's the point, the wine magazines is technical. when i first started i didn't know any flower smelled like in particular. and i thought there was room for a type of wine writing that wasn't either of these things. my idea was to come up with a new set of metaphors and comparing wines to actresses, pop stars, automobiles. >> when i came across in the book it made me think of gayle because gayle loves the rock and you described zin fichlt indale
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a rock. >> i think for most people that conjures something more vivid than talking about blackberry and hyacinth. i'm not good at that description. as a reader, learning about wine, i felt a lot was greek to me. >> before you leave, because i have to ask you about rielle hunter, at the risk of being nosey rosy, but it's been reported and you've written about it that one of your chashgers was based on rielle hunter. what do you make of where she is today? you two dated briefly. >> i knew the '80s. he she inspired -- she and her friend inspired a book i wrote called "story of my life." and we had a lot of fun back then. honestly, i mean, i wish her well now.
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and i'm -- you know, i'm concerned for her. i hope she -- i hope she comes out of this and has a great life.,,,,,,,,,,
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>> good morning. in about two hours from now san francisco police will have an update on an officer involved shooting. residents who were returning back to the apartment building. police say the man opened fire on officers and then set the building on fire. bart may provide overnight rides between san francisco and the east bay. they are looking at a pilot program to use county connection buses for the service on weekend mornings after the train stopped running. one day after coming out in favor of gay marriage the president is on his way to southern california.
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he will be in l.a. for a fund- raiser with actor george clooney. tickets are $40,000 each. george clooney started a play that was based on proposition 8. >> we will see a lot of sunshine in the bay area, a little bit breezy out towards the coast line and that will keep the temperature somewhat cooler. by the afternoon we should see some sunshine, high pressure weakens somewhat and the afternoon sea breeze will kick in. highs in the '60s at the beaches. plenty of eighties in the valleys. 83 in santa rosa. high pressure builds back in for the weekend which is looking good with 80s and 90s on mother's day.
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>> let's take look at the drive along 680. reports of a new accident south bound by mckee. it is blocking a few claims. northbound 101 is very slow out of san jose. northbound 101 slow, southdown
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101 near embarcadero, we have reports of an accident in the roadway. drive safe out there. ,,,,,,

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