>> pelley: tonight, breaking news on the government crisis. a late meeting between the president and the republicans. major garrett is at the white house. nancy cordes looks for answers on capitol hill. >> what do you need in order to reopen the full government? >> that government shutdown sows trouble on america's farms. dean reynolds reports. a cbs news investigation bm axelrod becomes a congressional hearing on dangerous prescriptions for veterans. and the source of a salmonella outbreak is found, so why did we find suspect chicken on supermarket shelves? john blackstone has the answer. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening, in the

battle over the budget, every clock in washington is ticking towards the first government default in u.s. history. every clock but this one. the ohio clock, as it is known, has stood in the senate for two centuries, but it stopped because the people who wind it have been furloughed by the government shutdown. that shutdown started nine days ago when republicans in the house refused to fund the government unless they could roll back obamacare. next week, the government will not be able to borrow enough money to pay its bills unless congress raises the so-called debt ceiling. these two crisis-- the shutdown and the debt ceiling-- were discussed at the white house late today by the president and republican leaders. we have reports from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. we're going to go first to major garrett at the white house. major, the meeting just broke up. what's happened? >> reporter: well, scott, this is a very, very fluid situation. white house aides are scrambling at this moment to put together a statement to characterize

exactly what went on when the president met with 18 house republicans today. they're not characterizing it in any way right now as either productive or nonproductive. what they are avoiding are terminology of is saying the republican off was rejected by the president. it's clear talks will continue on the subject of day which was not resolving or ending shutdown but trying to find a way to extend the legal authority of the government to borrow to avoid a default. which as said comes due october 17. the republicans came with a proposal to the president to extend borrowing authority for the government until november 22. and we are told the president is taking that offer under advisement, considering it, and talks will continue. nobody here-- either congressional republicans or the president-- talked after the meeting, but upon returning to capitol hill, the house majority leader eric cantor said this. >> the takeaway from the meeting was our teams were going to be talking further tonight. we'll have more discussion.

we'll come back to have more discussion. the president said that he would go and consult with the administration folks, and hopefully we can see a way forward after that. >> reporter: well, we do know, scott, house republicans had hoped that tomorrow they could put this idea in legislative language and have the house vote on it. that appears to be delayed, subject to more negotiations. the talks continue but a way out has not been found. >> pelley: major, thanks very much. even the prospect of averting default sent the stock prices soaring. the dow gained more than 323 points, the biggest point gain in more than a year and a half. what about the government shutdown? nancy cordes is on capitol hill and has more news about that tonight, nancy. >> reporter: house republicans are actively looking for a way out of that standoff, too. as one g.o.p. aide put it to me today, if the president could give us any kind of fig leaf, any kind of concessions we'd reopen the government tomorrow. speaker boehner seemed to drop

his demands today for big changes to the president's health care law in exchange for funding the government. what do you need in order to reopen the full government? >> i don't want to put anything on the table. i don't want to take anything off the table. >> reporter: it's a fight boehner didn't want in the first place. the tea party conservatives who pushed him into it expressed support today for this new approach, testing the president's offer for a far- reaching talks on the budget, obamacare, and entitlements, like medicare. robert pittenger of north carolina: >> i think what we're looking at is coming together in a reasonable way is and say, hey, we'll meet you halfway. >> reporter: the change in tone say nod to reality. business groups who were worried about the shutdown and default, had begun threatening to campaign for democrats and gallup's latest poll found the public's approval of republicans has sunk to an all-time low-- 28%-- well below the democrats' 43%.

senate republicans aren't entirely comfortable with the plan that their house g.o.p. colleagues put forward today for two reasons. first of all, they think that the government should be reopened immediately. second of all, they worry that six weeks, a six-week increase in the debt ceiling doesn't give the g.o.p. and the president enough time to negotiate over very thorny spending issues that the two sides have been at odds over for years, scott. >> pelley: nancy the meeting at the white house just broke up. things are very fluid. what happens next? >> reporter: well, house republicans are all telling us that they're going to be working throughout the night, going back and forth with the white house. it does appear that the big sticking point right now is over reopening the government. the president saying he likes their plan to extend the debt ceiling for six weeks so they can negotiate, but he wants to see the government reopened, too. house republicans are going to want some kind of concession for that, so that's probably what they're going to be discussing all night long. >> pelley: but at least they're talking. nancy, thank you very much.

on this tenth day of the shutdown, 400,000 federal workers remain on furlough. 800,000 more are working without pay. and the shutdown is now estimated to have cost the economy more than $15 billion. the impact goes well beyond washington and federal workers. dean reynolds shows us that the shutdown means trouble on the farm at harvest time. >> reporter: the corn is tall and the pigs are plump in polo, illinois, but farmer brian duncan is preoccupied by the government gridlock 800 miles to the east. what's the biggest headache for you connected to the government shutdown? >> well, dean, i would say it's lack of information. >> reporter: daily reports from the agriculture department, which help farmers read the markets for corn and livestock prices have ceased. >> we don't know the value of a hog in the marketplace starts out as an annoyance.

goes to frustration and then a headache and then it becomes a become deal because just because the government is shut down doesn't mean agriculture stops. >> reporter: as for grain, the monthly reports on production and global demand were set to come out tomorrow. >> it's not going to happen. >> reporter: no report. >> no report. it's been postponed. there's no one there to report is it. >> reporter: on the commodities trading floor, instead of brisk transaction, the lack of government data is stalling investment and sapping confidence. so this bulldozer is here to do what? >> well, it should have been working. >> reporter: he wants to build a new environmentally friendly pig pen but approval for federal assistance has stalled with winter only weeks away. farmers also can't apply for new loans, or receive some government checks. >> the food chain keeps rolling. >> reporter: there's no such thing as a dormant pig. they keep getting bigger. >> well, last i checked, people are still eating, even though the government is shut down, isn't that right?

>> reporter: when i asked him what he would tell the politicians in washington, scott, he said, "they should try to be good shepherds, try to be true to their calling, and try to handle their disputes with wisdom." >> pelley: dean reynolds on the farm in illinois. dean, thanks very much. despite the shutdown, a house subcommittee today heard testimony on a problem our jim axelrod exposed last month, that many returning war veterans are being over-medicated, some receiving lethal amounts of pain medication from v.a. hospitals. jim there was as congress opened the investigation. >> reporter: on capitol hill, two veterans crippled by debilitating pain describe their v.a. doctors increasing their narcotic dosages, instead of treating the underlying causes. >> i struggled with years of dependence on opiod therapy that was my only option, made available to me for my chronic, debilitating backpain. >> justin minyard, a retired special ops interrogator, hurt

his back as a first responder at the pentagon on 9/11. >> at my worst point i was taking enough pills daily to treat four term neil ill cancer patients. >> josh renschler, hurt by a mortar blast in iraq, needs a cane and can barely hold his childs. the va has him on 13 medications for his pain. >> and when i cry out to the v.a., my only source of medical care, to help me with this situation, and i'm hit with a brick wall, and a bottle of pills, that does not end the hopelessness. >> reporter: federal records we obtained detail numerous concerns of narcotic practices at v.a. facilities around the country. v.a. pharmacists were reported to be forced and coerced by management to fill and refill narcotics. a doctor reported to a v.a. hot line she was resigning because of excessive narcotics

distribution at a v.a- hospital in alabama. a v.a. undersecretary for health, dr. jesse, turned and promised these two men, and all veterans to do a better job of looking past medications and get to the root cause of veterans' pain. >> to mr. wrenchler and minyard, thank got you're still with us and whatever we can do to restore your trust in the v.a., please give us a chance. >> reporter: the hearings chairman hold dr. jealousy he expects to hear from him in a month with more specifics and what exactly the v.a. plans to do to restore that trust. >> pelley: jim, thanks very much. the u.s. military, of course, helped with the downfall of the libyan dictator muammar gaddafi. since then libya has become a country without laws and today the prime minister was kidnapped at gunpoint. though he was later released unharmed. mark phillips looks at who may have done this and why.

>> reporter: there was a lot of fuss made when libyan prime minister ali zidano finally showed up at the office. he had had quite a day. from the hotel in tripoli where he lives behind cordons of security, zidan had been kidnapped or abducted or arrested-- depending on your point of view, by a gang of gunmen. no shots were fired. zidan was held for several hours while speculation swirled on who had taken him and why. most of the speculation centered on abu anas al-libi, who was snatched by u.s. forces from the streets of tripoli last saturday. zidan's opponents claim the libyan government must have had advanced knowledge of the operation, and after the raid secretary of state john kerry was carefully diplomatic on what if anything the libyans knew. >> we consult regularly with the libyan government on a range of counter-terrorism issues but we don't get into the specifics of

our communications with the foreign government. >> reporter: since the overthrow of muammar qaddafi two years ago, the militias that rose up against him have not been molded into a unified security force. quite the opposite. they've been separate, often competing armies, representing regional, political, religious, and tribal divisions. the group that abducted the prime minister calls itself the revolutionary operations room. and he may have been freed only when his captors were confronted by another militia. according to the state department, united states personnel in libya were not in any danger due to the kidnapping drama, but it hasn't made the country a safer or more stable place, scott. >> pelley: mark phillips in our london newsroom, mark, thank you. now, we wouldn't usually take note of the election results in the former soviet republic of azerbaijan but you'll love this.

the results were announced it, which was remarkable because the elections wasn't held until the next day. the president in charge thereto last 10 years was re-elected with 72% of the vote without the neceworáy of casting any ballots. but here's the beauty part-- that landslide wasn't enough. after election day, it was announced he'd actually won 85% of the vote. apparently, old habits die hard in the former soviet republic. why is chicken linked to salmonella still on store shelves? one of the last of the seven mercury astronauts has died. and a vatican typo heaven only knows how it happened when the cbs evening news continues. y ni. i don't use super poligrip for hold

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in a letter to foster farms, the nt, inspectors found u.s.d.a. says: 25% of in one plant, inspectors found salmonella in more than 25% of the samples tested. >> i'm getting a little freaked out about the chicken situation. >> reporter: consumers like laura drexler in los angeles are confused about why the chicken is still for sale when it made more than 270 people sick sending 40% of them to the hospital. >> i think that every company, including foster farms, has an obligation to the public to do whatever they can to ensure our safety, including pulling it off the shelves if that's what they think is in our best interest. >> reporter: but the u.s.d.a. does not require recall for salmonella because it's widely found where chickens are raised. its presence doesn't lead to the same kind recall as e-colie. the u.s.d.a. classifies e. coli as an adulterant, a substance

that can make people sick. it's not illegal to find salmonella in chicken? >> right, so u.s.d.a. only haltz the authority to recall products that are misbranded or considered an adulterant, and because salmonella is not considered an adulterant they cannot recall it even though salmonella is the number two cause of food poidzening in the u.s. we're told the u.s.d.a. and foster farms are still in talks about how it will lower salmonella levels in the processing plant. scott, foster farms says its facilities have always met and exceeded u.s.d.a. standards. >> pelley: john, thanks very much. the scripture says an eye for an eye. but at the have the, it's an "l." for a ""j"." on a new coin commemorating the

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enough to keep bart trains rolling? next at six. weather talent appears at wx center with generic >> pelley: malala yousafzai is a favorite to win the nobel peace prize tomorrow. today, european lawmakers awarded her their top human rights prize. malala, of course, is the pakistani teenager shot by the taliban last year for supporting girls' education. two schoolmates were also wounded in that attack, and elizabeth palmer caught up with them. >> reporter: it would be hard to imagine a better refuge from taliban bullets than this 12th century castle, now an international school called atlantic college. here shazia ramzan and kainat riaz started 11th grade this september on full scholarships.

we last met kainat a year ago in pakistan, recuperating after being shot in the shoulder. she and shazia, who that day was in the hospital, were both wounded by a taliban gunman as they rode next to malala in the school bus. their school stayed open but in the remote and conservative swat valley the girls still felt threatened and had to leave. today, a world away, in rural wales, kainat showed us her wounds have healed well. can you lift your arm up all the way? >> yeah, why not? >> reporter: but the nightmares about the shooting haven't stopped. >> i have a little bit dream like something, i was like somebody's coming and shoot me. not shoot me, shooting my friend. >> reporter: atlantic college has meant big adjustments-- unfamiliar food, and classmates from around the world, including

what would have been unthinkable in pakistan-- boys. but they're loving it. both shazia and kainat want to study medicine, and then... do you feel a responsibility to try and help girls get an education in pakistan? >> yeah. i feel this is my responsibility. you help the pakistani girls in human rights, especially for girl' rights. >> reporter: especially girls from poor families, says kainat, we are symbols of what girls can do. "things like survive a taliban assassin, move to a new country and head back to the library on a sunny day because these girls are determined to lead by example. an education comes first. elizabeth palmer, cbs news, wales. >> pelley: and that's the cbs evening news for tonight. for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night.

your realtime captioner is mrs. linda m. macdonald it's down to the wire if bart and its unions don't reach a deal in just a few hours, your commute could be crippled as soon as tomorrow. >> good evening, i'm elizabeth cook. >> i'm ken bastida. we are just six hours away from the midnight deadline when that cooling-off period ends. bart put a new deal on the table this afternoon. it's now sitting with the unions and we're waiting to hear if they will accept that deal. mark kelly is at the fremont bart station. he had a chance to talk to some riders who are had enough of this back and forth. right, mark? >> reporter: absolutely, ken. i talked to a handful of riders today. one woman told me in her opinion, both sides are acting like children. but in our most recent kpix 5/surveyusa poll, about 75% of

those surveyed favor bart over the unions. >> reporter: riders worry this could be their last bart ride for some time if there's a strike. >> i just wish they would come to some kind of agreement and just settle it. >> reporter: our exclusive poll shows the public does not support a strike or the union's demands. asked which side has made the better case for its position, management or workers, management takes a double-digit lead with 44%. >> i don't support either. >> reporter: and then there are riders like susan who have had enough with both sides. >> i think they are acting like children and they need to start growing up and start acting like adults. >> reporter: pollsters also asked in order to avoid a strike, should workers accept management's offer or vice versa? this person takes the workers' side saying he would sacrifice the convenience of bart to support the workers' cause. >> i