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thank you to gianna and all of you for watching kpix 5 news this morning. don't forget the news continues all day on cbsn bay area. >> "cbs this morning" is coming up next. have a great day. ♪ good morning to you, and welcome to "cbs this morning." it's monday, june 8th, 2020. i'm gayle king with anthony mason and tony dokoupil. >> defunding the police. minneapolis council members say they'll dismantle the city's police department. the city's mayor refuses and gets booed out of a protest. and we talk to police chiefs from around the country about racism and reform. >> marching for change. new demonstrations are planned after huge protests sweep the country as george floyd is honored in his hometown. what's next in the push for a fresh direction. breaking their silence. a rising number of former generals are criticizing the president over his handling of
the protests. how the lafayette square crackdown is putting new scrutiny on attorney general william barr. and risky business. hard-hit new york finally starts to reopen from coronavirus lockdowns. how the u.s. pandemic plans to keep people safe. >> want to keep people safe but first, your world in 90 seconds. >> completely dismantle the minneapolis police. >> i'm not for abolishing the entire police department. >> a veto-proof majority say they plan to defund and dismantle the city's police department following the deaths of george floyd. >> it's an absurd assertion and i don't understand it. it's a very political statement to make. new york city, once the epicenter of coronavirus, is preparing for phase one of reopening. >> this is a moment that every new yorker can celebrate as our
achievement. >> tropical storm cristobal made landfall in louisiana. >> we do have a whole lot of flooding here. a whole lot of storm surge. >> prosecutors in new york have formally requested to speak to britain's prince andrew. the federal investigation into jeffny epstein. republican senator mitt romney marched in a washington, d.c., protest. >> black lives matter. >> all that -- >> a protest in philadelphia briefly turned into a celebration of love for a newlywed couple. >> and all that matters. ♪ >> congratulations to the class of 2020. >> the stars aligned on youtube. some of the biggest names congratulated the class of 2020. >> you are showing that your generation is the one that's going to heal this. >> on "cbs this morning." >> graduates, anger is a powerful force. it can be a useful force. but left on its own, it will
only corrode and destroy and sow chaos. but if you hold strong with the same faithhat carried all those giants before you toward real, measurable progress, you will change the course of history, and i know that not only can you do better than those who came before you, you will. >> wow. wow. welcome to "cbs this morning." on this monday. we made it through the weekend. anthony, a lot of the graduates were crushed that they wouldn't have the ceremonies they wanted. but so many people, guys, have pulled out all the stops to make sure that it's special that in a way, this is very, very cool. >> exactly, gayle. we've said it before. this class is graduating at an extraordinary time. they'll never forget it. >> yeah. they will never forget. i forgot who spoke to me at my
graduation so there you go. we begin today, though, with an historic pledge in minneapolis where a majority of city council members promised to dismantle the city's police department and replace it with a new system of public safety. now this follows a weekend of massive but peaceful rallies demanding real change on the issue of racism and policing. anthony? >> the minneapolis plan still faces hurdles, including opposition from the city's mayor, jacob frey, whose appearance at a rally saturday did not go well. >> go home, jacob, go home! >> those are chants of "jacob go home." the mayor does favor major police reform in the city, but does not support dismantling the department. jeff pegues has the story from minneapolis. >> we are here because in minneapolis and in cities across the united states, it is clear
that our system of policing is not keeping our communities safe. >> that's minneapolis city council president lisa bender. she is leading the charge to defund or eliminate and replace the city's police department after george floyd was killed. >> our commitment is to end our city's toxic relationship with the minneapolis police department. >> george floyd! george floyd! >> reporter: there are calls to rethink policing in cities across the country following a similar move by the mayor of los angeles. new york city mayor bill de blasio vowed to cut funding to the police department and divert it to social services and youth initiatives. >> we will only do it in a way that we are certain continues to ensure that the city will be safe. >> reporter: but the pledge going the furthest so far is in minneapolis. before the city council can defund the department, they need to have a plan for a new system in place, something they admittedly don't have yet. the mayor could then veto that
vote. and the city council can override that decision with a two-thirds majority. when asked if he would consider defunding the department, minneapolis mayor jacob frey ruled it out. on saturday, protesters booed him. frey says he considers police reforms to be a better option. >> if you're asking whether i'm for massive structural reform to revise a structurally racist system? the answer is yes. >> reporter: so if the city council does pass that law, the state could intervene to try to stop it, but it's unclear if it will even get to that point. derek chauvin will be in court video video link from jail. if convicted, he faces up to 40 years behind bars. tony? >> all right, jeff, thank you. this nationwide movement against racism led to protests in cities large and small over the weekend. tens of thousands turned out at marches over the last few days alone. and many more rallies and vigils
are planned for today, including in new york city. our national correspondent jericka duncan is there. good morning. you followed a march yesterday through the streets of new york. what did you see? >> well, what i notice and what i saw was organization, consideration for traffic, but most importantly i saw hundreds of people that are hungry for change, tony, and said they believe this movement feels different than previous ones. >> wake up! wake up! >> reporter: protesters here hit the streets for an 11th straight day sunday. >> george floyd! >> reporter: and what has become a national call to action, not just against police brutality, but systemic racism. >> this is everybody's fight. without some people there will not be change. >> reporter: in washington, d.c., this weekend, one of those people was republican senator mitt romney, breaking from the president and some of his gop counterparts by vocally supporting the protests. >> a way to end violence and
brutality and to make sure that people understand that black lives matter. >> reporter: that message is now painted on the road to the white house where congressman and civil rights icon john lewis stopped to pay his respects sunday. it's also reverberating across the country from savannah, georgia. >> black lives matter! >> reporter: to chicago, where thousands took to the streets in protest. thousands more gathered in los angeles to ask questions like this one -- >> we're treated so harshly. why we are so feared? >> reporter: even in texas, a city once known as a haven for the kkk, more than 100 people organized to promote change. >> what do we want? >> justice! >> reporter: the quest for justice comes in the wake of george floyd's death at the hands of police in minneapolis. and after breonna taylor was shot and killed by police in her own louisville, kentucky, apartment. the officers in that case have not been charged. friday would have been taylor's 27th birthday.
in oakland, an artist dedicated a mural to her. in pittsburgh, protesters honored her with a moment of silence. and a break from the largely peaceful weekend protest, a suspect is in custody in seattle after police say he drove into a crowd and shot a protester who survived. and as the nation reckons with cases of excessive force by police against people of color, virginia police officer tyler timberlake is on paid administrative leave -- >> relax. >> reporter: after body cam footage captured him tasing a black man who previously told the emt he needed to detox. timberlake is charged with assault. here in new york city, the nypd has one of the largest local police budgets in the country at around $6 billion. in response to the protests this weekend, mayor bill de blasio announced he wants to move an unspecified amount of money for
policing to youth programming and social services. gayle? >> generating a lot of conversation. thank you, jericka. a public viewing for george floyd will be held this afternoon in houston. that's where he grew up. floyd's family and loved ones will attend a private funeral service tomorrow. "cbs this morning saturday's" co-host michelle miller is in houston at the church where that viewing will be held. this is the last time people will be able to pay their respects to george floyd. what can they expect? >> there will be a lot going on here. former vice president joe bien will meet with the family today to offer his condolences. he is just one of the list of dignitaries and celebrities expected to support the family. people who are honoring floyd this week say his life will change the nation forever. >> who was george as a person? >> george was a loving guy. they called him a big gentle giant. >> reporter: family and friends of george floyd will say their
final good-byes to him this week. his family attorney lee merritt says they hope their loss turns into hope for others. >> every family that i've ever worked with, they said they wanted to make insure thsure th happens to anyone else's kid or loved one. this family is closer to making that a reality than any other family that i've had the pleasure of representing. >> reporter: floyd is being laid to rest in his hometown of houston where a line of flags stretch along the road where his body will be carried on its way to the church. volunteers say the flag means all people should be treated equally and equality is something the houston mayor says floyd did not receive. >> it's about doing the right thing. justice for george. justice for george means justice for a lot of other people as well. >> reporter: floyd died after a white police officer kneeled on the back of his neck for nearly nine minutes. even after he complained he could not breathe. >> please! i can't breathe. >> reporter: merritt says
floyd's death was a catalyst in the modern civil rights movement. >> the american public is responding to this murder in a way that validates human life. everyone has stopped and paused and said, can we make this one the last one? >> reporter: merritt says though the spark has been lit in many americans, the country has a long way to go for equality. >> we have a criminal justice system violent toward african-americans and that includes unlawful incarceration, overincarceration and criminalizing poverty. >> reporter: george floyd's funeral service takes place tomorrow. president trump is reportedly not planning to attend, but houston's mayor sylvester turner, reverend al sharptson and boxer floyd mayweather are expected to be there. gayle? >> michelle, thank you very much. join us tomorrow for live coverage of george floyd's funeral service. norah o'donnell will anchor a
"cbs news special report" from houston. tomorrow night i'll answer the primetime special "justice for all." at 10:00, 9:00 central here on cbs. it's about the change that we can see on the issue of race and policing after all these protests and demonstrations. a lot of people are asking, now what? what are the next steps? we also have an interview with amadou diallo's mother who was killed by police who fired 41 shots. anthony, i know you remember this case back in 1999. amadou diallo was 23 years old. he was unarmed at the time. reaching for his wallet. police thought it was a gun. four officers were involved in that shooting. they were all acquitted. needless to say, this has raised very, very painful memories for diallo who says, you know, it's tough for her to realize that after all this time, this is still happening. she has a lot to say. >> yeah, i look forward to that interview and to the broadcast, gayle. attorney general william barr says the decision to force out protesters near the white house a week ago was not related
to president trump's photo op that evening. in a "face the nation" interview, barr also denied a cbs news report the president demanded 10,000 active duty troops be deployed on the streets to shut down protests nationwide. cbs news stands by that reporting. retired general colin powell is now backing joe biden for president as ben tracy reports. he's one of a growing number of retired military leaders criticizing the president. >> we have a constitution. and we have to follow that constitution. and the president has drifted away from it. >> reporter: president trump's response to protests across the country has top former military commanders speaking out. >> our military should never be called to fight our own people as enemies of the state. >> reporter: the criticism comes after president trump talked about using the military to dominate the streets. and attorney general bill barr
ordered law enforcement to clear peaceful protesters out of lafayette park across from the white house last monday. on "face the nation," barr said he did not know president trump planned to walk through it to stage a photo op in front of st. john's church. >> i gave the green light at 2:00. obviously, i didn't know that the president was going to be speaking later that day. >> reporter: he defended the amount of force used. >> there were chemical irritants -- >> no, there were not chemical irritants. pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. >> pepper balls. >> a spokesperson for the park police said that pepper balls contain an irritant powder and chemical agents designed to produce tears. >> do you believe there is systemic racism in law enforcement? >> i think there's racism in the united states still, but i don't think that the law enforcement system is systemically racist. >> it's not about a bad apple. it's about a system.
a system of actors and those who are complicit with those actors. >> reporter: on "60 minutes," the head of the naacp legal defense fund criticized the response to the protests. >> responding to protests that emanate from anger about the excessive use of force with an excessive use of force strikes me as not a good strategy for law and order. >> has attorney general barr reached out to the legal defense fund? >> no. >> at any time? >> no. >> reporter: president trump continues to call for law and order even though the vast majority of protests this weekend were peaceful. here at the white house today, the president is having a roundtable discussion with members of law enforcement, but the white house has not said who will be there or what will be discussed. gayle? >> i'll take this one, ben. thank you.
moving on to weather over the weekend. the remains of tropical storm cristobal are dumping heavy rains on a wide area near the gulf coast. the storm made landfall yesterday south of new orleans hitting hard in coastal communities like waveland, mississippi. it's now moving up the mississippi river valley bringing a chance of tornadoes. jay cunningham of our new orleans affiliate is in man deville, louisiana near lake pontchartrain. >> we saw about three inches of rain and you can see it had an impact on the area. forecasters say in louisiana, we saw about four inches total. in florida, almost a foot. a storm surge of up to seven feet put this coastal mississippi neighborhood under water. floodwater submerged streets and cut off access to several homes. further east emergency workers rescued dozens of stranded motorists. the storm's destructive path stretched more than 500 miles to
florida, flooding streets in jacksonville and spinning off two tornados. the first one touched down saturday in orlando. there were no reports of injuries. the second hit sunday afternoon south of lake city, damaging trees in the area. cristobal is the earliest third named storm on record in the atlantic basin forming just two days into the hurricane season. we still have 175 days left to go of this season which is already predicted to be more active than normal. >> jade cunningham reporting from louisiana about storm cristobal. that's a different name for you. ahead, how new york city is coming back to life. 80 days after the coronavirus forced sweeping
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welco welcome back to "cbs this morning." new york city was once the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak here in the u.s., but this morning after nearly flthr months of being shutdown the city is beginning phase one of reopening. as states reopen across the country, 17 have reported an increase in average daily new cases compared with two weeks ago. that's raising concerns among health experts. david begnaud is in new york city, good morning. so here we go. what does phase one look like? >> reporter: well, tony, construction projects can restart. manufacturers can fire up their floors again and nonessential e retrailers can reopen.
this is a kids clothing boutique. you can't go in and browse you can come curbside pick up. there were a lot of businesses in this area of upper west side manhattan that had to close down because of the shutdown. they couldn't afford the rent. you can't imagine how happy this woman is to have that door open behind me. >> it's personal, and it's a small store, i feel connected to my workers. >> that's stephanie goldstein. she said her online business took off. >> how much do you pay a month in rent for the store? >> it's close to $24,000. >> has that made you think i should do this online because i've done well online? >> no. >> why? >> i love having my store. >> reporter: officials estimate
400,000 new yorkers will return to work today. bill de blasio is the mayor. >> every new yorker should celebrate as our achievement together, your achievement. you did the hard work to fight back the coronavirus. >> reporter: to date more than 200,000 residents have tested positive for the virus. the death toll is estimated to be just over 21,000. now the next phase of reopening could be just weeks away. but after months of hard-won progress against the coronavirus, there are concerns that the massive demonstrations in the wake of george floyd's death could have given the virus a chance to spread again. just listen to the governor, andrew cuomo. >> we've tested everything else. we've measured everything else. everything was going fine. then we had these large number of protests. we don't know what the affects of the protest are. and we're concerned about it. >> reporter: that concern isn't specific to new york city. this was washington d.c. on sunday.
tens of thousands of people have marched there over the past ten days. about a week before the protests sta started dr. deborah birx said this. >> the number one metro with the highest positivity rate is the district of columbia. >> reporter: dr. birx also called attention to the rates of positive cases in chicago where tens of thousands of people protested there over the weekend. and she warned that cases were still rising in minneapolis. since george floyd was killed there on may 25th, that city has been the site of some of the largest memorials and demonstrations around the country. we're going to see transmission coming out of the gatherings, no question about that -- >> reporter: that is the former fda commissioner scott gottlieb. he said people that attended protests in many any u.s. city should maintain social distancing and take extra precautions, like avoiding the elderly. >> these are occurring in hot
spots. we're likely to see cases go up. i think trying to tease out what the contribution is from the protests just from the general reopening is going to be hard. >> reporter: here in new york city there are 15 testing sites set up to test people who went to the demonstrations. the governor of new york is hoping they're able to test 35,000 people every day now that the city is starting to reopen. gayle, i cannot tell you how exciting it was to come from my apartment to this store and look down the block and see lights on, doors open and people inside. >> i feel you, david. listen, i think people need to remember just because we're reopening doesn't mean it's over. so you have to be careful. i don't know what the stoopher is, but i'd like to look at that store. ahead, anti-racism protests are spreading around the world. what demonstrators say about george floyd and the problems they see in their own countries.
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for one of the largest protests. >> black lives matter. >> reporter: in london, joining this protest mattered far more than the lockdown rules. thousands, many masked against coronavirus, gathered outside the american embassy. >> what's your message to your american brothers and sisters? >> that we're with you and we love you and we want -- your message is heard over here. and we'll keep fighting the same fight that you are. >> reporter: a few hours after the peaceful demonstrations, a small knot of troublemakers faced off with riot police, being pushed back in an attempt to calm the violence. in the end the police cleared the area around parliament with only a handful of arrests. earlier in bristol, a crowd pulled down the statue of the 17th century slave trader edward
coston and then this symbol of britain's own racist past was heaved into the river. in paris they marched, as they did in rome and tokyo. in hungary, a silent crowd took a knee for eight minutes and 46 seconds, the time officer chauvin had his knee on george floyd's neck. covid-19 kept thai protesters off the street but on screen in a massive zoom session. but in brazil which has one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks in the world, demonstrators came out anyway in solidarity with what has become a world-wide movement. the focus of the protests in sydney was on abridgeal people beaten or killed in custody. in 2015 australia had its own
george floyd, david dungay who died in prison shouting i can't breathe. those words transformed into a demand for racial equality and justice. u.s. embassies around the world like the one behind me here in london have become the focal point for demonstrations and black lives matter, a powerful new international rallying cry. anthony? >> elizabeth palmer in london for us. thank you, liz. ahead, vlad is looking at
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good morning, what do you have for us? >> good to see you. i'm thinking a lot of people want to go back to the weekend but i am here, tony. it's good to see all of you. happy monday, working from home. we're looking at some of the stories we think you'll be talking about today. including this, u.s. prosecutors have asked the british government for an interview with prince andrew, they want to question him in the criminal investigation of jeffrey epstep, they say they bypassed the palace. for months they've been trying to speak with prince andrew, a friend of epsteins, back in november the prince said he was willing to work with prosecutors and denied any wrong doing. epstein died by suicide in august while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges, a
anthony. >> he knows a lot which is why the federal investigators want to talk to him, he visited his house, the hiisland, he's a frid with maxwell, that's why the friends are interested. he said he'd cooperate but apparently he hasn't yet. what else you got, vlad? >> new zealand is reporting no active cases of coronavirus for the very first time since february. so, the prime minister is lifting nearly all covid-19 restrictions. >> i did a little dance. tomorrow we'll be able to move around with freedom that very few other countries in the world have, it's because we are maintaining. >> the prime minister said the country will focus on rebuilding its economic health. they imposed some of the toughest restrictions, including a lockdown, had one of the
highest testing, and contact tracing of all patients. it's a different story than here in the united states which on reopening have seen spikes. but what is infectious is the pm's joy. you saw that in the video. >> yes, i remember when she came to our table i had such a girl crush on her, still do. she's such a bad ass, countries could take notes how she runs things. she's amazing. you have news in the sports world, too? >> yes, the u.s. soccer federation may repeal its policy requiring national team players to stand for the national anthem. the federation's board of directors will hold a conference call tomorrow to discuss the policy and could vote on it friday. and nfl commissioner roger goodell is encouraging players to speak out and protest peacefully. here's what he said in a video posted friday. >> we the national football
league admit we were wrong for not listening to football players earlier. the i will be reaching out to players who have raised their voices and others on how we can improve and go forward for a better and more united nfl family. >> tony, the president of the united sretes has been tweeting about this, reopening this debate. collin kaepernick is still without a job, as i said on friday. >> that's a great point. i thought it was a remarkable statement from the commissioner. you almost expected him to get out of that chair and take a knee in solidarity, he didn't do that. the big open question is, will players be able to kneel in protest peacefully when play resumes. remains to be seen, vlad. >> we'll see. more for us? >> tony, gayle, anthony -- >> i do. a hidden treasure chest filled with more than $1 million of gold and jewels was found in the
roc rocky mountains after a decades long search. the person who hid the stash said a treasure hunter found it two days ago. he posted clues online and his auto biography. despite our reporter's probing questions, he remained tight lipped about the location five years ago. >> the only way to prove to you that the treasure is hidden is to take you there. >> what are my chances you'll do that? >> there's an old saying, two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead. >> it's estimated over 350,000 people searched. but i was inspired to treasure hunt years ago after spanky and
them found the golden jewels. >> i have good news for would be treasure hunters. i wrote the first big national article about him, spent a month on it, spent a week with forest himself. i do not believe that treasure has been found until forest, who knows how to spin the story, until we see a picture i do not believe it. forest, i know you, you know me, i want to see a picture my friend. >> tony. >> i stand by it. >> vlad, thank you very much. we'll be right back. stay with us. >> wow. how do you get skin happy 24/7?
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this is a kpix 5 news morning update. >> good morning, everyone. it is 7:56. i michelle griego. the 1800 acre quail fire burning there vacaville is 40% contained. all mandatory evacuation orders have been lifted. a red flag warning has been issued for the region. the national guard is pulling out of philly hope. there were called in last
tuesday night to assist after protests got rowdy. the coronavirus has reached san quentin state prison. officials report more than a dozen inmates have been affected by the virus. as of yesterday, the number stands at 14 cases. as we take a look at the roadways right now, babe breach lights they bridge median lights remain on. heading toward the toll plaza you get -- into the city, the earlier trouble spot on the upper deck has been cleared but we do have an accident at the berkeley curve westbound 80 blocking lanes so about a 27 minute drive time is you were away from berkeley headed toward the bay bridge toll plaza. give yourself some extra time there. traffic and toll continues, -- mary? a pleasant day across the bay area with sunshine, temperatures on the rise today and especially for tuesday and wednesday.
it's monday, june th, 2020. welcome back to "cbs this morning." rising voices. nationwide rallies draw massive crowds as a push for change intensifi intensifies. we'll talk to congresswoman value demings, also a possible v.p. con ttender. and lessons in leadership. chris wallace talks to us about big decisions in america's past. and the divide in today's republican party.
>> first here's today's eye opener at 8:00. a pledge in minneapolis where a majority of city council members promised to dismantle the department. >> the state could intervene. it's unclear if they'll get to that point. >> i saw consideration for traffic. hundreds of people who are hungry for change who said this movement feels different than previous ones. joe biden will meet with a family today to offer his condolences. it's just one of the dignitaries expected to support the family. at the white house the president is having a round table discussion with members of law enforcement. the white house has not said who will be there or what will be discussed. ♪ >> national guardsmen danced with protesters this weekend. >> they started doing it after
somebody brought a boom box out there and started playing the song during recent protests. and they couldn't deny the rhythm and started dancing along. welcome back to "cbs this morning." anthony, we see dancing always reunites. it always unites. healing. going old school with that one. we're going to keep it moving here. today we're -- yes, mine too. there are others i would recommend. today marks two weeks since the death of george floyd, massive wide protests. no signs of slowing down, and there are calls around the country to defund police departments. amid demonstrations in minneapolis, a majority of city council members announced plans to dismantle the department in favor of a new system of public safety. they did not say what it may look like.
the city's mayor does not support the idea and was booed during a weekend rally. in washington today democratic lawmakers are expected to introduce legislation that would overhaul police departments across the country. among the changes it would ban the use of choke holds to subdue suspects, and make it easier to prosecute officers for police brutality. the attorney general told face the nation he believes systemic racism is not a problem in u.s. law enforcement. congre congresswoman val demings calls it the ghost in the room. the florida democrat is on the short list of potential vice president for joe biden. congresswoman, good morning. a lot of news to get to. i want to start with the news out of minneapolis. the city council voting to dismantle and rebuild the police department there. is that a strategy you could
agree with? >> well, first, good morning to you and everyone. it's good to be with you. there are a lot of things being proposed throughout the nation. i think it's the result of people being hurt, disappointed at what happened to mr. floyd. that's all too familiar to them. but also angry and demanding change, and i believe that that everyone has a right to look at any proposal that is put forth, because there needs to be change. i also believe that the council is being thoughtful in terms of looking at all of the services that police provide. you know, there are some cases that statutory, law enforcement is responsible for investigating. they do a lot of things associated with natural disasters and terrorism, and so what i believe, the council along with law enforcement authorities and other community
leaders will sit down and look at everything and come out with a plan that allows them to keep minneapolis safe but also bring the community and the police together in a much needed and long overdue way. >> yeah. so congresswoman, you mention the context and you also mention very statutes that call police into situations where a badge and a gun may not be necessary. on the question of defunding the police, what many people mean is move that money out of law enforcement hands and into another sort of community engagement fund. do you support that strategy? >> as live listened to what has occurred and watched, certainly over the last two weeks, what happened to mr. floyd, there is no one on planet earth, i hope, that believes anything about that situation should have happened. a lot went wrong there. but i'm also reminded of the words of former chief david brown out of dallas, texas when
he had five of his officers executed. he said something to this effect. every time society fails, the police are called in to if i can it. and we all know usually by the time the police are called, something has already gone drastically wrong within society, and look, as a former law enforcement officer, and as a police chief, i know that the police are pulled to respond to situations on the street and in communities that they are not prepared to respond to. and not trained, quite frankly, to respond to. while they have received several amounts of trainings and critical indents, people suffering from mental health, i believe there is opportunity for the police and the community to come together and kind of spread. look at the responsibilities, things that police are taking on that they were never supposed to take on in the first place. and come out with the better plan.
>> congresswoman, yeah, it sounds like you're not using the words defund the police but in terms of narrowing the scope of the police mission, it sounds you agree that could be in the future of this country. i want to talk about the bigger future of this country and the past. attorney general barr says systemic racism is not present in law enforcement. others have said the same thing. how can you fix a problem that roughly half the leadership does not recognize exists? >> well, i said it multiple times long before the tragedy that happened with mr. floyd c that racism is and continues to be the ghost in the room. and look, i hear what attorney general barr is saying. i don't believe he believes that. i believe that is just a talking point, and unfortunately, when you fail to publicly admit that there is a problem, then it is
extremely difficult to address the problem. and i've also said that the president and certainly the top cop, william barr, have a direct speedomet responsibility to intervene and say yes, we have a problem but we're going to put the full weight to right it and show compassion and bring the country together. unfortunately, i don't believe the president nor the attorney general have the capability of doing that and certainly, if they're continuing to stand at the microphone on a public and international stage and say there is no problem, then quite frankly, i think they have served their usefulness for this country. >> congresswoman, we have to go, but i have to ask have you spoken to joe biden lately and what has he said? >> well, i'm not going to share any personal conversations that i have or have not had with the
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president trump is expected to meet with members of law enforcement later today. now this comes after protesters flooded the streets again over the weekend demanding an end to police brutality and the defunding of police forces. i spoke with the heads of four police departments, dallas police chief renee hall, santa cruz police chief andrew mills, camden pluch joseph wysocki and last but not least raleigh police chief cassandra deck-brown. we discussed the flaws in the and the need for change but started with the reaction to the video of george floyd's death. >> i was angry at the profession because it took me back to why
policing even exists in the first place. police officers exist because of slave patrols. so there's something that goes back to that. >> one of the things that was so disturbing is that it seemed so cavalier and so cruel. on some level, he must have felt comfortable doing what he did because in the past, there doesn't appear to have been consequences for their actions. >> gayle, i think you're right. it's a fairly small percentage but a significant percentage of people who feel empowered. the mere fact that the other officers didn't intercede, they're just as guilty. if you see it, you own it. >> i agree. the one thing i think we have to stress, the duty to intervene, we need to stress that. >> do you think most police officers feel comfortable reporting bad behavior from another officer? >> yeah, you know, i think it is tough to turn other cops in because you depend on them for your life. and they make -- sometimes make poor decisions and you're going to try to do what you can to
protect them. we've got to get past that. >> generally speaking, could i have a show of hands, do you think that black people are treated differently than white people by the police in this country? that was a unanimous. that was a unanimous. >> i think there are differences, and they are systemic. it's community based, as well. it's not just in law enforcement. how many of us have been in a store and people have walked around while you're shopping? >> me. >> because of the color of your skin. >> yes. >> and i think now is that time to really pay attention to where we are and to really be a part of the change. >> here's the reality for me -- i'm a 63-year-old white guy from a middle-class family with an education. i'm privileged. nobody's going to kneel on my neck. i would guess 4% of our police agencies shouldn't be there. but those are the 4% that we've
got to get rid of to figure out how to do that. that is where the racism occurs. i think we need to look at how unions are empowered to protect the officers. >> immediately the police union there said don't condemn the officer and don't rush to judgment. and i think that's another thing that bothers people, that even when we see something that appears to be so blatant, it's still, wait a second, don't rush to judgment, let there be an investigation. >> some of the issues that have come up have been that same issue, is that police association coddle officers, and thy make their behavior acceptable. >> do you think that's true? do you think that's true? >> absolutely i do. i think in some instances there are association members who regardless of the behavior of an officer, we blame everything else. >> this is not the first case where an unarmed black man was killed, where people think unfairly, unjustified. this feels different to me. does it to you?
>> yeah, gayle. it does feel different to me. it shocked the consciousness of the profession. this shallow symbolism of just a onetime speaking out, we can't stop here. and i mean, where were we when some of these other people were killed? there was a lot of silence from our profession. and for that, we are wrong, i am wrong, i am sorry. >> why do you think chiefs didn't speak up before? it had to be something this heinous, chief hall? >> these positions that we're in, if we're going to be truthful about it, are very political. i think the balance of what is true and right versus what is politically correct to say gets in the way. but i believe that we're sick and tired of being sick and tired as a nation because we see that there's systemic change that has to take place in order for us to be on the other side of this. and i think what we're seeing now as a result of the pain, of the hurt, of the tired is a
result of not having that seat at the table. >> weren't you all aware of the pain, the hurt, and the tired, to use your words, chief hall, before the murder of george floyd? >> we've seen it in all of our organizations. >> nothing changed. and nothing changed. >> so when we say nothing's changed, i don't think we're being, you know, genuine in that the fact that things have changed, but we may not have done a good enough job of informing them that these recommendations have come in, and we've implemented them. >> i want to talk to you all about the protests. chief wysocki, president obama singled your department out for the way that you handle protesters. so what are you doing that the rest of the country could learn from? >> we weren't in riot gear, we weren't -- the big night sticks, we were in our regular uniform. we marched, and you have to continually be doing community
policing, you have to do community outreach, and you have to listen. >> chief, you made national news for kneeling with the protesters and the demonstrators. >> we stand for justice, and we stand for making sure that racial injustices are dealt with. it's not just the black community speaking out. you have a lot of communities speaking out. but now we have to follow through with real policy changes, legislative changes, training. i hope that there's leadership in washington to ensure that this takes place in a thoughtful way and in a rapid way. >> that was andy mills. listen, all of them were very good talkers. i found andy mills to be especially forthcoming in his thoughts. they all agree that leadership, that change starts at the top. and leadership is key. and they have to be the ones that initiate that to at least start the conversation. they also suggested that maybe it's time for us all to take a look at police unions and the power that police unions have. when you look at officer chauvin
who had 18 complaints against him and only two written reprimands, and that he was still on the force was troubling to all of them. i want to point out that we had the conversation before there was all of the talk about defunding the police departments. because i'm thinking why didn't you ask about that -- it hadn't happened when we had that conversation. i would have been curious to get their thoughts on that. >> but still a fascinating conversation with those four chiefs, gayle. i was particularly struck by the one who said that what is -- it's -- things have been tolerated in the police department in parts because they've been tolerated in society. so you know, all this focus on the police, but it's a larger issue. i really -- it was a very interesting conversation. >> yeah, and they admit this feels different. tomorrow night i will anchor the cbs prime time special, we're calling it "justice for all." it's at 10:00, 9:00 central on cbs. it explores how the activism we're seeing following the
update. >> good morning. i am len kiese. hundreds of people who are homeless in san francisco were tested for covid-19 this weekend and the host of the event with results expected in a few more days. in chinatown 300 volunteers helps clean businesses targeted by vandalism and looters. they plan to hold another event in the future. a santa cruz boardwalk is partially open and you can walk and do shopping and grab something to eat but the rides remain closed.
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welcome back to "cbs this morning"ment time it bring you some of the stories that are the "talk of the table" this morning. this is where we each pick a story we'd like to share with each other and with all of you. tony's going to kick it off. >> all right. i got a great one. pro-baseball resumed in south korea last month, you may recall. this was after the country contained the coronavirus. fans are not allowed in the stadiums. so one team has found a cute alternative. take a look. pretty good swing there. but all eyes on the stuffed animals filling the seats behind home plate including teddy bears. i note spongebob square pants
making an appearance. pikachu also in attendance. so the idea is to give the players some sense of a presence in the stadium, gayle. but while i do think it has a good chance of attracting young fans to the game, it's still a little bit weird to be in a completely silent stadium with a bunch of stuffed animals. that's just me. >> it's not just you. it is a little weird. but you have to say the stuffed animals are a little comforting. i'll try that tactic and see how that goes. no, tony -- tony's not buying it. i get it. i get it. my "talk of the table" is interest a father's love for his two young sons and the united states. he's an accomplished violinist who created this video to make a point in 43 seconds. ♪
♪ >> i love that. >> well, his name is john randolph. he's a social worker in connecticut. he's also performed ""the star-spangled banner" around the states. he made the video because his sons had been watching the news and had a lot of questions. as simply as you can when your kids are 6 and 2, he said some police officers are here to hurt, some are here to harm. his hope is that they won't grow up in fear of the police and that they will be seen for who they are and not the color of their skin. i saw this, someone sent this to me. it made the hairs stand up on
the back of my neck. as a little kid, you're told "call 911," the police will help you, don't be afraid. and families, black families and white families, are having this conversation in their homes about what do you say to your kids, how do you help your kids. and i thought john randolph's video was very powerful. anthony? >> it's very moving. very moving, gayle. as you pointed out, this is just one of those critical moments for your kids in terms of trying to explain this to them. and that's a very moving way to do it. all right. my story is on a new book by fox news anchor chris wallace on the final months before the u.s. dropped the atomic bomb. it's called "countdown 1945: the story of the atomic bomb and the 116 days that changed the world." it starts with harry truman becoming president and finding out the u.s. was secretly developing a new weapon. the book is published by avid reader press, an imprint of simon shuster which is a
division of viacom cbs. chris wallace joins us now. chris, good morning. >> good morning to you. >> i want to get to your book, but i want -- welcome, thanks for being here. i want to start with some of the events that occurred over the weekend. we had colin powell announcing that he was going to vote for ji joe biden. we have last week mattis criticizing the president he served. you saw mitt romney marching in a protest and saying the word "black lives matter." then george will came out in a column basically saying the whole republican party needs to be rebooted. now some of these people obviously have been critical of the president in the past. but do you think there's -- there is something happening here? >> well, there's certainly something happening in the top levels, the establishment of the republican party. you do see some people breaking with an incumbent president. think about that, this isn't donald trump who was just a candidate four years ago, he's
the republican president. so that's quite impressive. on the other hand, if you do look at the polls, the president still has tremendous support from the republican base. 80%, 90% of republicans support him. so i don't think there is a real stampede away from the president and the party. there certainly is a stampede or at least a bit of a runaway at the top levels. you know, i think donald trump would say i never had those people with me anyway, and i suspect he'll use it to say to his base, you know, i'm with you guys, i'm not with the elite of the republican party. >> chris, we've all been watching the protests. they continue. they were significant this weekend in washington again. do you think it's different this time? >> well, that's -- the big question i keep asking myself. we're all veterans, you and gayle and tony and me, and we've seen this story before. whether it was rodney king or
eric garner or michael brown in ferguson where, you know, there is a case of alleged or in most cases confirmed undue police force and protests. some of them turning into riots. and calls for reform. frankly, nothing much happens. that's the big question here -- and i don't have an answer to it. will things happen? the house democrats are going to propose a bill today that includes things like more transparency. some kind of register for police who have misconduct claims against them. maybe take away some of their qualified immunity. but will that get through congress and the republican senate? i'm not sure about that. and i'm not sure how much of a difference it will make. so we'll have to wait and see. but being a little bit of a skeptic, i think it's more likely that we're going to see this story, tragically, again sometime in a couple of years and say now we need to make some changes. >> one of the things i was struck in in reading your book,
chris, "countdown to 1945" -- and it reads like they willer because you have the new president, harry truman, coming into office and not realizing that an atomic bomb was under development and suddenly facing, whether he should use it or not. one of the things that struck me is there's an extraordinary amount of unity in the government as they consider this decision, isn't there? >> absolutely. i mean, you know, as you're researching and writing a book of history, you're always comparing it to current times. one of the things that really struck me was the extraordinary unity -- we were in the middle of world war ii, but whether it was the top military, the top scientists, the top politicians or folks on the homefront, they were all pulling together. for three years a manhattan project was under way, 125,000
people at oak ridge, tennessee, at los alamos in mexico, hanford, washington, wendover, utah, and not a single bit of the project broke. now obviously they didn't have the internet or social media, things that we have today, but it was a secret, and it stayed a secret because everybody was on the same team. boy, could we use that now. >> yeah. and chris, truman was very methodical, you point out, about his decisionmaking. he took counsel from everyone including generals who disagreed, correct? >> yeah. this was one of the things that i really appreciated about truman. he -- first of all he was meticulous. the choice was do we invade japan, or do we use the atom bomb? maybe the biggest decision any president had to make, and he sought out advice from everybody. he has lunch just a few days before the bomb is dropped with dwight eisenhower, the supreme allied commander. eisenhower says the japanese are
already going to surrender, we shouldn't be the first country to unleash the bomb. truman didn't follow his advice, but he didn't hate it. he didn't yell at him or throw him out of the room. he welcomed it. he wanted the best, straightest advice from everybody around him. but he said, "when i make the decision, you back me." >> right. chris wallace, it's a fascinating read. up this for being with us. "countdown to 1945" is on sale tomorrow. next on "cbs this morning," how south africa dealt with its violent racist past and the potential lessons on healing
south african struggled to deal with its racist past may hold lessons for the united states. less than 30 years ago the country had one of the harshest systems of legalized racism in the world. debora patta reports from johannesburg on how the nation faced the trauma of its history and continues to deal with it today. >> reporter: this is constitution hill. it used to be a prison where former president nelson mandela was held during his treason trial. he believed that no one was born hating another person because of the color of their skin, and despite 27 years behind bars, he forgave his jailers and tried to
reconcile a country after decades of brutality. this is what state-sanctioned police killings looked like under south africa's racist regime. [ gunshots ] known as the trojan horse massacre, white policemen hid inside wooden crates and opened fire on unarmed protesters, killing three of them, the youngest an 11-year-old boy. the incident was captured by cbs news in an age before cell phone cameras. this type of brutality was rarely caught on film. [ goifunshots ] which is why over three decades later the police killing of george floyd still takes an emotional toll on black south africans who find themselves reliving the trauma of apartheid which legalized systematic and violent racism. that system was eventually
dismantled in 1994 through a negotiated settlement. >> let freedom ring -- >> reporter: under former president nelson mandela, the country began a process of truth-telling in a bid to heal the wounds of its racist past. for seven years, the truth and reconciliation commission was broadcast regularly on national television led by nobel peace laureate archbishop desmond tutu who spoke to "60 minutes" and bob simon. >> it's not easy to open -- it's painful. if you don't want them to fester, you must open them and cleanse them. >> so help me god -- >> reporter: perpetrators like the leader of a state-sponsored death squad, were given amnesty in exchange for the truth. he told "60 minutes" how they routinely murdered black activists. >> you guys were playing god. >> we -- we were god. >> reporter: the survivors of these unspeakable atrocities
were promised reparations. >> then they went about cutting his fingers off. >> reporter: more than 21,000 victims testified, even tutu broke down and wept. former anti-apartheid campaigner reverend frank chikane nearly died after being poisoned by the apartheid government. he forgave his perpetrator. >> bitterness destroys you, it doesn't destroy the person who caused you the pain. >> reporter: he has not forgotten. >> forgiving doesn't mean forgetting. the guy who taught that to me is still the guy who tortured me. doesn't change. but my attitudes against him becomes completely different. >> reporter: the process was flawed. many victims felt cheated out of justice, but it did open up a national dialogue in which white south africans could no longer deny the crimes committed in their name.
and 26 years later, race remains the enduring fault line of this country's discourse. >> we have more conversations about race. race is a conversation that never ends in our country. >> reporter: patamedi lebea believes south africans are better at talking about race than americans, but reconciliation is hard. if like him you live in a township where some residents still don't have electricity. >> how do you forgive if you're still angry? there's still this thing that stands before me, this blackness that hinders everything i do, how do i then even as a new generation say we forgave? >> reporter: some south africans believe the u.s. would benefit from a similar truth-telling process, and everybody agreed there's no quick fix. you have to keep on having uncomfortable conversations, but words must be accompanied by economic justice. >> that's right, debora patta in johannesburg, south african, with an important report on confronting the past if you want
want to cleanse the wounds of that past. thank you so much. before we go, an 8-year-old's powerful message on racism that is getting attention all across the country. we'll be right back. my name is christine payne, i'm an associate here at amazon. come on christian, step onto the blue line. good! stay safe, man. this device is giving us an accurate temperature check. you're good to go. have a good day. the safety of amazon community is very important. you're good to go, sir. thank you! if i can take care of everyone who is sick out there, i would do it in a heartbeat. step onto the blue line, sir. i have to take care of my coworkers. that's how i am. this is my passion. have a good day. i have a son who is 10 years old. i say, "you know, mommy loves to help people." and he said, "wow, one day i'm gonna be like you too.
before we go, protesters in denver heard a passionate message about racism in america from an 8-year-old. take a listen. >> i think like black people, it's just i don't know why this is happening because it's just how they look. it's just the skin. don't judge a book by its cover, and that's not being taken very seriously right now. black lives totally matter. that's a true statement. [ cheers ] >> wow. that's mac vasquez. she did not plan to take the stage during a black lives matter protest, let alone get a standing ovation as you see. when a local activist invited
young people to speak, she realized she had a lot to say. she was one of many children who spoke to the crowd of hundreds about equality and white privilege. she told kcnc that she was scared at first, but she wanted her message to be heard. if you want the truth, ask a child. that's what i always say. >> yeah, you're so right. go, mac vasquez. this is the thing -- as we all know as parents, kids aren't born to hate. in the beginning kids really don't see color. so they're little blank slates, little sponges soaking up whatever you put on the canvas. when you see little kids like that speaking up, i think it's very, very powerful. i keep thinking about john -- the video we saw for his sons. the symbolism of that with his two little boys, he's in a church, guys, playing with a hoodie, sending a message on so many levels. i see the message he's sending out, the message that the children are sending out. you're right, tony, you want to hear the truth, let the children speak, anthony. let them talk.
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