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biggest hits on television. of course it was her biggest hit, her own groundbreaking comedy which left us feeling to this day, we love lucy. this morning, jim axelrod looks back on her revolutionary show, while mo rocca tells us about a new movie based on her life. >> reporter: it las been 70 years since i love lucy first lit up tv screens in millions of american homes. seven decades of laughter still going strong. not everybody your age knows, or loves, lucy. >> i grew up on lucille ball. >> i care about what's funny. >> reporter: and this week brings a new movie looking at the real lives of lucille ball and desi arnaz, a star-studded film worthy of the ricardos. >> there is music in his body. you can tell the way he moves, the way he talks,

there is always music. >> lucille ball loved that. >> i love that. >> nicole and javier as lucy and desi this "sunday morning." >> pauley: it is a new comedy about a real life and scary threat to our planet. thi morning, two of its stars are in conversation with our tracy smith. >> there is a comet headed directly towards earth. >> reporter: don't like up is a se serious climate change warning. he has done award-winning movies like big short, but are you anchorman fan? >> oh, sure, my second husband. >> reporter: coming up on "sunday morning," adam, meryl, leo, and the end of the world. >> pauley: the calendar

says it is december, and our david pogue says it is time for a visit from techno claus. ♪♪ >> reporter: inflation is raging, the supply-chain is shot, and covid is still going, i know, it's a lot. but thanks to the earth's chronological lures, it is time for a visit from me, techno claus. i can't stop the crazies, but i can find great gifts for the folks on your list. >> pauley: holly williams goes behind the headlines with a jeffrey epstein accuser. michelle miller kicks back with candace bushnell. elizabeth palmer remembers the legendary entertainer josephine baker. plus steve hartman, jim gaffigan and more, on this first sunday morning of a new month, december 5, 2021. we'll be right back. ♪♪ [trumpet] ♪♪

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hollywood lot, where one of america's biggest stars ever first filmed her groundbreaking show, a young artist named yolanda glass has been hard at work. >> one of the workers who came by, who worked on the lot, he looked up and he was, like, lucy would be proud of it. i can't describe how encouraging that felt. >> reporter: yes, count this 30 something among the millions who seven years after the premiere of "i love lucy," still loves lucy. >> speed up! >> reporter: still love lucille ball stuffing her mouth to keep pace at kramer's kandy. >> get a great big bottle of v vitameatavegamin. >> reporter: and they

still find lucy both relevant and influential. >> there wouldn't be a myriad of the female and people of color who are comedians out right now without her foundation. ♪♪ >> reporter: the 180 episodes over six seasons on cbs followed the mad-capped adventures of lucy ricardo and the trouble she whips up trying to break out of her mid-century life. married to cuban band member ricky ricardo, played by desi arnaz. ♪ i love lucy, and lucy loves me ♪ >> reporter: nowhere is the hold the show still has on the public still easy to see than in jamestown, new york, where lucy was born, and two museums feature i love lucy featuring the iconic

sets. >> i think of the extraordinarily well-done physical comedy. >> this is so evocative. >> reporter: journey gunderson is the executive director of the lucy- desi museum and the national comedy center. 70 years later, why is lucille ball still relevant? >> i think in some ways, lucille ball's legacy can be appreciated now, through a 2021 lens, perhaps better than it ever has been able to be appreciated. >> reporter: start with i love lucy's enormous popularity. >> ricky, this is it. >> this is it! >> reporter: the episode where lucy gave birth on january 19, 1943, reached 43 million viewers. >> i will faithfully execute the office of the president of the united states. >> reporter: that is when dwight eisenhower was sworn in.

lucy and desi marks new territory for television. she was the all american girl, and he was a cuban born transplant. it was controversial casting that lucille ball insisted on. >> oh, ricky! >> she risked everything. >> reporter: remember, this was more than a decade before the height of the civil rights movement. >> i think america raised its eyebrows, but then they quickly started laughing. >> reporter: lucille ball and desi arnaz were tv pioneers in an impressive list of other ways as well. [laughter] >> reporter: the laughter was so loud when they filmed, it was recorded and used for other shows, helping to launch canned last as a standard production technique. that show where she gave birth cast tv's first ever pregnancy plot line on a big three network sitcom. >> it was still taboo for a woman who was pregnant to be out in the open in

front of everyone. >> reporter: and when lucy needed some time off post-delivery, desi offered up a first that changed the hollywood business model forever. just repeat some episodes that had already aired. desi arnaz the father of reruns? >> yes. and the story goes that cbs executives laughed him and said who going to want to watch them after they aired? >> reporter: it turned out everyone would. which is why 70 years later, lucy and desi are cultural icons. the subject of the movie, "being the ricardos," with nicole kidman and javier bardem. >> she was famous to a degree that hadn't existed before her, really. >> reporter: while intrigued by her im immense

public appeal -- >> when the commercial came, the entire public was going to the bathroom at the same time. >> reporter: look at this face, though? that's not acting. >> that is grehe and desi were t together except for the fact they weren't. she loved him, he loved her, and yet they couldn't live together. >> reporter: on camera, desi was an understanding, loving husband. off-camera, he was an alcoholic and a womenizer. >> she knew she couldn't divorce him because of the public. >> reporter: in his novel, strauss gives lucy love in the form of an affair with his own grandfather. >> i wanted to give her a love story of her own. that's why i told this story in this way. >> reporter: that is fiction. but the fact, lucy and desi did essentially divorce. both remarried, but most

poignantly -- >> we asked here at the end of her life, who was the love of your life? >> desi, absolutely. >> they were connected by their souls. >> reporter: kate luckinbill agrees, and she should flow. >> we had a very special bond. >> reporter: she is their granddaughter. >> your grandparents remained in love until the end of their lives? >> uh-huh. completely, madly, deeply. >> reporter: now the head of creative direction at desilu, the studio founded by her grandparents. that's right, years after "i love lucy" lucille ball shows like star trek, the untouchables, and the twilight zone. the keeper of the "i love lucy" flame? >> there is a healing quality to that show. that's what i feel i'm here to do, to remind people of the elixir that they brought the bill. >> reporter: she is protective of her

grandfather who died at the age of 86, and her grandmother who died three years any other at 77 from an ao an a aotic aneurysm -- les look at the reality? >> and why it's so important not to let people die in their 70s from a heart explosion and alcoholism. because neither of them should have been gone. they died of sadness and trauma, both of them. >> reporter: no hollywood ending perhaps, but what lucy and desi did give the world still has an impact 70 years later. >> that was the first time i got to see a female being funny and embarrassing, and it was cool. >> reporter: just ask this young artist. >> i feel like when i was really little, there is idea you have to be polite and quiet as a woman. and when i watched her show, that was the first introduction of you don't

have to be quiet. you can be funny. you can be loud. and it was okay. >> ahh! >> reporter: and, guess what? america is going to love it. >> and they're going to love it so much, you're going to be on for decades, and people in my generation and the next generation and the next generation are going to know.

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epstein and ghislaine maxwell, but it begins with a chaotic childhood in her native south africa, a mother, who she says struggled with addiction, and a rape in her childhood by a stranger that disabled her alarm system. "i had no boundaries joanna she writes, "i had no bells." >> i grew up with people hurting me, strangers hurting me, and so it became it was my fault. there is something wrong with me. and it has taken me to about 37 years old to finally get an ounce of self-respect back that was taken. >> reporter: you write about your traumatic experiences in childhood almost priming you to be victimized in your adulthood. can you explain how that works? >> i think being a victim,

a survivor of sex abuse, it robs you of your self-worth and dignity. >> reporter: ransome says she met epstein when koun wom22, intuced by nightclub, who she later discovered was paid to recruit her. she flew tos private island, little st. jame's, thinking she was going on a vacation, she writes. >> it was amazing, and then, poof, you're on this island and that's it. lock and key, there is no escape. there is no one to hear your screams and cries. >> reporter: it was there she says she first met ghislaine maxwell and alleges she was repeatedly raped by epstein. >> it was made very clear to me that first trip, if i ever went to the authorities, if i told my parents, if i told my friends, if i ever left, jeffrey said to me, i will kill you. i will hunt your mother

and father down and i will kill them. >> reporter: you were terrified? >> of course i was. >> reporter: and you were frozen. >> i was frozen, i was petrified. >> reporter: now living in a small village in england, ransome says her book is an attempt to make sense of what kept her enthralled to epstein and maxwell for nine months, and why she returned to the island on several more occasions. she concludes she was a victim of coercive control, an easy target for exploitation, using financial despair and fear. >> it became a relationship of you needed him, and he gave you a enough, where you would always continue to have that need, on top of that, knowing that you had nowhere else to escape or run, otherwise you and your entire family would be murdered. >> reporter: you're saying it is a situation where you're stripped of your ability to act? you're stripped of your own agency? >> you're affectively --

they take your complete ability to function as a human being. >> reporter: ransome believes epstein was a satist who propped up his inflated ego by dominating the weak. what role did ghislaine maxwell play? >> she was the organizer. she was thenary. the engineer. she argnized everyt organized e. >> reporter: the daughter of a wealthy newspaper tycoon, she reportedly introduced ep teen to the famous and the powerful. but ransome describes her as an a pimp. >> i think ghislaine maxwell is a very sick woman. she enjoyed humiliating us. >> reporter: ghislaine maxwell has consistently

denied all sexual abuse and trafficking allegations against her. finally in 2007, ransome says she escaped. fearing epstein would kill her, she flew to the u.k. to join her mother. she sued epstein and maxwell in 2017, settling with them the following year for an undisclosed sum. are you still happy with that decision? >> no. >> reporter: you wish you had your day in court? >> yeah. and that's one of my biggest regrets, that i'll never have my day in court. and it's a decision that i thought it was right at the time. and i made it to protect my family. and i regret it. and i'll regret it for the rest of my life. but my book is my day in t lainmaxwell's trm tw >> have sch respect for the girls that are testifying. i just want them to know that i'm there for them,

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>> pauley: just a few days after nasa launched a spacecraft it hopes will push an asteroid traveling towards earth off course comes a new comedy, covering some more ground. tracy smith speaks with the director and two of the biggest stars in the universe about "don't look up." >> so how certain is this? >> there is 100% certainty of impact. >> please, don't say 100%. >> can we just call it a potentially significant event? >> yes. >> reporter: just in time for christmas, the end of the world. >> there is a comet headed directly towards earth. >> reporter: in the new movie, "don't look up," a giant comet is on a collision course with planet earth. >> this comet is what we

called a planet killer. >> that is correct. >> reporter: and who better to tell the story than some really big stars. >> 99.78%, to be exact. >> reporter: there is leonardo dicaprio as the scientist trying to warn the world, and meryl streep as the president who won't take him seriously. >> and then what happens, a title wave? >> there will be mild-high tsunamis fanning out all across the globe. >> reporter: it is quite a vision. and the guy behind it all is screenwriter/director adam mcky. >> that is one of my favorite things you put in. >> reporter: he let us sit in as he and editor hank corwin cut the final version. >> did you, in casting this, look at the two front rows of the oscars and say, these are the people i want in the movie? >> i mean, i guess. for instance, with the president, president orlean, of course you

think meryl streep and you just assume she is going to say no, and you'll move on. >> reporter: is there a moment where you kind of said, oh, c'mon, this can't be happening. i want a leonardo dicaprio type and you get leonardo dicaprio? >> he was the moment. when he said yes, i was, like, this is crazy. >> it is not s easy to attend a full cabinet meeting. >> what about us? >> you're not cleared. >> reporter: jennifer lawrence is a snubbed reporter. >> the meeting is stressing me out. >> this will affect the entire planet. >> i know, but it is, like, so stressful. >> reporter: it doesn't take long to see that the comet is a metaphor for climate change. and while there is nothing funny by global annihilation, the movie sa comedy through and through. >> what if we have to go to the bathroom.

>> we lay out the newspaper and grab a can of febreeze. >> reporter: did you feel like it was a comedy? >> yes. because when we're laughing, we can deal with things. when we get overcome with depression, things get hard. as soon as i realized we needed to laugh when it came to dealing with the climate crisis, i knew where to go. >> reporter: adam mckay dropped out of temple university to join the second city improv troupe, and was hired as a writer at "saturday night live" where he met his comic soulmate will ferrell. >> the experience of writing with him and getting the sketch on air was so fun and pain-free, neither one of us was overthinking things. we were just having a good time. and that was kind of the beginning of it. >> that will do it for all of us here at channel 4 news. you stay classy, san diego.

>> damn it, who typed the question mark on the teleprompter. >> reporter: mckay and ferral did movies like legend man and taladaga nights. >> 160, i'm going fast again. >> reporter: but even with run-away success at the box office, mckay wanted to stretch his legs. he got his chance in 2015 in michael lewis' best-seller, "the big short." >> the whole housing market is propped up on these bad loans. they will fail. >> reporter: i'm not sure the people who read the big short would think this would mke an interesting feature film. >> i couldn't put it down. and since i was done, all

these people said, i never thought this could be a movie. i thought this is a movie. >> reporter: it was a movie, all right. >> triple "b"s, zero, and then that happens. >> what is that? >> that's america's housing market. >> reporter: mckay turned a confusing story into a box office hit and shared an oscar for screen writing. for him, it was all personal. >> you know, my father lost his house in that collapse. i mean, people think, oh, big shot hollywood guy, but, no, this collapse affected people that were close to me. it was definitely a project that i felt a real emotional connection to. >> do you know how many "the world is ending" meetings we've had? >> drought, salmon -- >> reporter: and now adam mckay has an emotional connection to the climate crisis. it is a passion he shares with some of his best-known cast members. why did you decide to do

this movie? bikers >> because of him, becaue of adam. i'm a huge fan. nobody makes me laugh harder in this movies, and nobody makes me think more. >> i've been waiting patiently for something like this. and it sort of landed in my lap. and, of course, i got to work with amazing people like this. >> he has done award-winning movies like "big short," but are you anchorman fan? >> absolutely. >> oh, yeah. my second husband. [laughter] >> reporter: it turns out they all needed a few laughs onset. the movie was filmed at the height of the pandemic, masks and all, but to leonardo dicaprio, that only made the film more meaningful. >> it was a fascinating thing, the 100 year pandemic, but to realize everyone was going through the same thing simultaneously, and that's why i connected with this screenplay that was about the climate crisis.

we're all going to feel the ramifications of this. what we're seeing right now with the wildfires and the massive hurricanes and all these catastrophes, it doesn't get better than this. okay? it doesn't get better than this. it slowly becomes worse. >> it would damage the entire planet. >> the entire planet, as it is damaging, will it hit this one house that is in particular, on the coast of new jersey, which is my ex-wife? it was played by tyler perry and kate blanch cate blanchett.>> are we not be? we're trying to tell you that the entire planet is being destroyed. >> it is something we do around here, we keep the bad news light. >> it helps the medicine go down.

>> reporter: from where you sit, is that accurate? >> yeah. >> yeah. [laughter] >> i asked for it. >> here we are, and we all get fluffed up and we come on and we're talking about our movie and we're on tv, and, you know, he shaved, and, yes, we try to give the people something to lift them. and i think it's actually about everybody's very human desire not to look at the bad things. >> i totally agree. i think that, you know, again, talking about climate, i've talked about it a lot. you can kind of see people's eyes glaze over. >> reporter: can one movie make a difference? >> hopefully, but at this point, i'm debbie downer. so you're asking the wrong guy. to me it is about a little less conversation and a lot more action. >> at this very moment, i say we sit tight and assess.

>> sit tight and assess. >> sit tight and assess? >> you just want to sit tight. >> and then assess. >> reporter: adam mckay isn't the first filmmaker to use comedy as a way to get a serious message across. he is just hoping he won't be one of the last. >> we can overcome this, but what is scaring me now is it is really getting to be down to the last second. so hopefully this movie is something where we get a lot of laughs, but we also get a kick in the pants.

>> pauley: sex and the city is one of those pop cultural shows that resonates to this day. the woman behind is, candace bushnell. she is talking to our michelle miller. >> reporter: so do you still love new york city? >> i do, i really do. ♪♪ >> interesting things happen every day. >> reporter: new york city has inspired writer candace bushnell for decades. sex in the city, based on her best-selling book, catapulted her on to an international stage. >> hold on! i'm coming! >> reporter: now 25

years later, at age 63 -- >> good news only. >> reporter: -- she finds herself under the spotlight again, this time in an off-broadway show. >> do i have a shoe obsession like carrie bradshaw? no, carrie bradshaw has a shoe obsession because of me. >> reporter: what's the most fun about being up here? >> honestly, the most fun is interacting with the audience. i have women here sometimes who are, like, yes, you go girl! and it's great. do you want to hear the real story of mr. big? >> yes! >> i think what i'm doing is, i'm looking back and i'm tracing the steps that it took to get here, to see what it adds up to, i guess. it's my book. >> reporter: the show is largely auto biographical,

including bush bushnell's take on her life in the 60s, and, of course, sex. >> there are too post-menopausal women: those who go sex crazy, and those who never want to see another penis again in their lives. some people, when they get to a certain age, they're done with sex, and that is fine. you can take a break. it's okay. >> reporter: that might sound surprising, coming from a woman who for decades has written about just that. bushnell's career began when she was 19 and left college for new york city. >> sex in the city, it has one foot in sex and one foot in society. >> reporter: in her 30s, she landed her own column, based on her own life. within five years, that column morphed into the best-selling book and the

hit hbo series starring jsarah jessica parker. >> so much of that character comes from my real life. >> i've been dating since i was 15. i'm exhausted. where is he? >> who, the white knight? the series followed charlotte, amanda and samantha as they navigated life and love in new york city. >> we were all living unconventional lives. and it was always this idea that, you know, you don't have to feel bad if you haven't followed society's rules about how you're life is supposed to be. >> reporter: does it shock you all that it is so incredibly relevant? >> no, because we're

analyzing human beings and human behavior. and those things are universal, really. >> reporter: bushnell herself married ballet dancer aseguard, but they divorced two decades later. >> you don't have to be partnered or live in a family structure to survive. at one time you kind of did. >> reporter: to date, bushnell has written 10 novels, three that were turned into television shows. >> i love you. >> reporter: sex in the city, however, turned into a global ens satio sensation, inspiring two films and a new hbo series premiering this week. what is life after not just success but huge, monumental success? >> i don't feel like i've had huge, monumental

success. >> reporter: you don't? >> no, i really don't. many other things that i want to do. i still get up every day and work and just keep working. and i have things on the back burners. some things work; some things don't work. there is, you know, happiness. there is disappointment that that didn't work out, but i accept where i am and i'm happy about it. >> reporter: but make no mistake, candace bushnell is still looking forward to the next chapter. >> i love this. >> reporter: this show is called "is there still sex and the city"? >> yes. >> reporter: why was that a question for you? >> it is not necessarily about sex, just sex per se. it is about things that are sexy, you know.

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>> tell me something, do you play that thing? >> what? >> do you play that "thin"? >> what thin? >> never mind making fun of my english. >> that's english? >> it's "sunday morning" on cbs, and here again is jane pauley. >> pauley: first came the sitcom, and now the movie. it's called "being the ricardos." mo rocca talks with some familiar performers playing some of the most famous people in television. >> well, maybe i wasn't exactly a star, but would you believe i was a featured player? >> lucy and ricky, fred fred and ethel, seven decades on? and he world is still on

a first-name basis with characters made famous by lucille ball, her husband, desi arnaz, william frawley and vivian vance. >> good morning. >> reporter: which is why expectations are high as a movie about the real people behind "i love lucy" is about to hit the big screen. >> here you are, ethel. >> thank you. >> reporter: there are many people who feel very strongly about these characters, like they're family. >> yes. >> absolutely. you don't think about it when you're doing it, right? >> reporter: can you assure the public that you've done your best to do justice to these characters? [laughter] >> look at our faces. >> i mean, i've done everything that was in my ability to, yeah. >> i got it, i got the part! >> reporter: nicole kidman and javier bardem have the awards and box office clout to headline

hollywood's biggest movies, but along with co-stars j.k. simmons and nina, who have an oscar and a tony between them, they felt intense pressure to get their roles right. >> i know we did our best, but we were absolutely obsessed with it. the four of us, in our own ways. and also, i had to learn how to sing and play the congos. >> yeah. like c'mon. >> reporter: you got to sing babalu. >> yeah, babalu. ♪ babalu ♪ >> reporter: with the driving cadence of an aaron sorkin script, being the ricardos races through a frantic week in which lucille ball is accused of being a communist, and desi arnaz is accused of cheating on lucy. >> we took time on that. >> reporter: and the

couple announces lucy is pregnant. >> with a baby. >> action. >> lucy! i'm home! >> reporter: all againstgh-stakn of "i love lucy." >> i'm guessing there are many things that surprised you, but what are some of the top things that surprised you learning about lucille ball. >> all of it, how they built the production company. the way in which they were such a team. i didn't know how clever she was, how she would always say she wasn't funny. you name it, i didn't know it. >> you should remind props that i need garden shoes. >>you don't have to explain it. >> reporter: was she a great actress? >> she actually was, yeah. yeah. she was a great dancer, too. >> dah, dah, dah -- >> she moved beautifully, which makes sense when she was doing physical comedy, but she was a beautiful

dancer. and i always say she had the most beautiful hands. she used her hands all o the ti p lked. which i love.smart and that is really depicted. and she and desi, it was a love story. >> i think the deep love they have for each other, it is still alive. >> reporter: do you think the comedy between the two would have worked if they didn't love each other? >> i don't think they would have been able to withstand the stress. it was an enormous amount of stress. when you're doing a show -- and also the perfectionism, which lucille had, which was, like, it has got to be great. >> i did the calculation, in the course of one week, i see you 1/20th as your second trombone player. >> well, learn to play the trombone, and i'll givepyou the. >> how hard is it to

learn? >> reporter: they were one of the country's most famous couples. >> it is a colorful love story. >> make a lot of love. >> it is these two people that create this amazing show, and the price you have to pay for that in some ways. they were exposing themselves in a way. >> reporter: they were exposing themselves, right? and speaking about that balcony scene -- >> i borrowed part of your tuxedo. >> reporter: that was the kind of lucy and desi you never saw in sitcom, obviously, because it was the 1950s. >> it comes with pants, that i'm wearing. >> not for long, pal. >> they have this force. they embody this sexual energy. which doesn't mean you have to have sex continuously. it means, like, there is a force that is unstoppable, it is a rush. it is more animal. and i think one put the fire to the other.

>> reporter: if lucy and ricky ricardo were fired, downstairs neighbors fred and ethel mertz were ice. >> for the love of god, old man, this isn't hard. >> reporter: jake and nina discovered that the mertz's onscreen bickering was not acting at all for william frawley and vivian vance. >> don't tell me it is a comedy. >> i was really surprised that bill and vivian couldn't stand each other. i thought that was characters. i thought that was the mertzes. >> what was the source of the animosity? >> rumor has it before they even set eyes on each other, bill overheard vivian complain that she was going to be paired up with this old man, that

you're marrying me to my grandfather. that did not go over well with bill. >> reporter: there was a big age difference? >> big age difference, 22 years. >> this is art very closely imitating life. >> reporter: in real life, of course, lucille and desi divorced three years after the series ended. why didn't the ma marriage work, javier? >> oh, my god, i knew that question was coming. >> can you explain to me why you couldn't stay home? >> i don't know. what do i know. it worked. i mean, it worked. >> uh-huh. >> they worked together for a long time. and they loved each other, exactly. and that is sexy in itself. and then something went wrong. if you want to know, you have to watch the movie. >> one of my favorite things just learning about them as a couple, long afte they were not a couple anymore, every time

you would hear them speak about each other, whether in their books, in public appearances, they had such regard and respect and love for each other as artists, as human beings, as parents. whatever was incompatible about them as a couple, they were both very generous with each other. >> are we silly? >> yeah. >> reporter: and it is their unmistakable bond that is forever recorded in black and white. why did she insist on desi as her husband in the sitcom? >> because they had great chemistry, they were fantastic together. >> reporter: you think -- >> are you asking me -- >> that was the pitch. >> oh, my gosh, i sound like her. lucille, go away! [laughter] >> the plot thickens.

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>> pauley: france bestowed a rare honor on an american-born legend

this last week. elizabeth palmer tells us about the remarkable life of josephine baker. >> reporter: deep in the french countryside sits a medieval castle, chateau des mont. appeal and his brother, from nigeria, have returned to visit the place they grew up with their siblings, 12 auld all together, from all around the world. >> the children were adopted from all around the world to prove people can live together. they>> reporter: they were known as the rainbow tribe, an experiment in racial equality devised by their legendary mother. ♪♪ >> reporter: one of the first black entertainment mega stars, jo josephine

baker. ♪♪ >> reporter: a show girl extraordinaire, she took paris by storm in the roaring '20s. >> the rage is josephine baker, the daughter of a washer woman. >> reporter: josephine baker grew up poor in the slums of st. louis. as a young dancer, she made it as far as new york and then beyond with an american vaudeville show to paris in 1927. ♪♪ >> reporter: at the time, segregation and racism limited opportunities for black performers in america. but in france, there was at least some legal segregation. baker rocketed to fame across europe with her exuberant style, and a then scandalous dance wearing only a tiny skirt.

on stage, she was playing to a racial trove, but in life, she was impossible to stereotype. professor and biographer benetta jules-rosette. >> in addition to her performing, she is a business woman. she has a hair cream called "baker fix." her picture is going on actual bananas because of her banana skirt. not only is she a musical star, a movie star, but she is an entrepreneur. >> reporter: and, believe it or not, a spy, working with the french against the nazis in world war ii. >> she could also fly a plane. so she was actually an air force pilot. ♪♪ >> reporter: on wednesday in paris, josephine baker was awarded france's highest honour: the first black

woman to be inducted into the pantheon mausoleum, more than 45 years after her death. french president emmanuel macron hailed her as a war hero, entertainer, civil rights fighter, and, of course, a mother. so it was like a fairytale to live in a castle, or was it? >> yes. >> reporter: one of her sons, brian bouillon baker, met us at the castle to give us a tour and reminisce. >> there is gari from finland and my brother -- >> reporter: the rainbow tribe was more than a family for baker. it was a living commitment to her ideals. >> showing to the world when kids, babies, grow up together from all kinds of continents and countries and cultures and religions, they can live together. >> reporter: what would you say your mother's legacy is?

>> the idea of the universe coming together. >> reporter: baker would eventually return to the u.s. on tour. where she was among the first to insist of integrated audiences. >> many people credit frank sinatra and the rat pack with desegregating las vegas, but josephine was the first performer at the flamingo club, requiring the club to be desegregated. >> don't you think to help your race, you would serve your race far better if you remained in the united states? >> my race? >> the negro race. >> uh-huh. you see, i think a little differently. for me there is only one race, the human race. >> how long are you going to stay? >> you want me to stay. >> i think you can help the negro movement. >> oh, don't say that. >> why not? >> because it is not a negro movement; it is an

american movement. >> reporter: her role earned her an invitation to join martin luther king, jr. to speak at the march. josephine baker died in paris of a stroke in 1975. crowds poured into the streets as she was buried with full military honors, a salute to her life and her legacy. where did she get that kind of self-possession and recognition of her own power? >> i think it was innate. innate poise and self-confidence. her legacy, i think, is one of courage, courage in the face of adversity and all of the things she was able to overcome in her lifetime. ♪♪ >> reporter: and like all truly great performers, she made it look easy. >> and there we have it.

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