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vote, former president donald trump false claims the election was stolen lived on. this morning we'll take a closer look at events still testing the limits of our democracy. starting waort from major garrett. >> it is also clear that we have won georgia. >> reporter: george's republican secretary of state brad raffensperger has spent the last year as if he was howling into the wind. >> truth has become a casualty. >> this election was stolen. >> reporter: the so-called big lie fueled the january 6th riot and death threats against election officials nationwide. >> you watch yourself. you watch your back. >> reporter: coming up on "sunday morning," echoes of the 2020 election still ringing one year later. >> pauley: the curtain is slowly going up on broadway. and a new version of an old favorite is in the spotlight.
i'll be talking to the star. >> i'm not sure, but i think hugh jackman is back. >> i am back. >> pauley: on broadway, the show will go on. >> people always say, what do you prefer, the theater or the movies. i always say i love them both, but if i had to pick one, it would be the theater. >> pauley: ahead, music man hugh jackman. ♪ 76 trombones ♪ >> pauley: as you've probably heard, the legendary betty white, a beloved television main stay for decades, passed away on friday. we'll have an appreciation from mo rocca. >> s sue ann, guess what? i may be having prince charles on my show. >> oh, mary, you and he would make a wonderful couple. >> reporter: she had
impeccable timing but she was timeless. >> she sparkled. she walked into a room, and you could not not notice this kind of light and energy she carried with her all of the time. >> reporter: later on "sunday morning," remembering betty white. >> pauley: rita braver talks with congressman jamie raskin about a year of political turmoil and personal tragedy. martha teichner invites us to feast on the life's work of artist judy chicago. with seth doane, the world is our oyster in waters off cape cod. tracy smith takes note of music phenom lil nas x. plus a story from steve hartman, thoughts from jim gaffigan, and more on this "sunday morning," january 2nd, 2022. we'll be back in a moment. ♪♪ [trumpet]
motion his most brazen effort to overturn election defeat. >> president trump: i just want to find 11,780 votes. which is one more than we have. >> reporter: in a recorded phone call he told georgia's republican secretary of state brad raffensperger he could face unspecified criminal charges -- >> that's a criminal offense. >> reporter: -- if he did not bend. >> i listened, but i'll submit you can dig all you want, mr. president, we have the facts. and i'm sorry you lost. >>reporter: did you shock you? >> i was going to make sure we followed the law and we followed the constitution. and i wasn't going to be swayed, pushed, or deviating from that. >> reporter: raffensperger recounts that call and the turbulent months after the 2021 election in his new book "integrity counts." raffensperger was dogged by accusations that he helped steal the election from mr. trump.
he faced death threats. his wife was threatened with sexual violence. raffensperger, a life-long republican and conservative who voted for mr. trump felt hunted by fellow republicans. >> what has that been like? >> you watch yourself and you watch your back. and you start looking for people's tells. >> reporter: what is that? >> hands on the side of their hip, things like that. >> reporter: and raffensperger also got a dog. is it a guard dog? >> no. but he is an awareness dog. >> president trump: they steal and rape and rob. >> reporter: based on fraud in other states, amplified by mr. trump -- >> president trump: this election was stolen from you, from me, and the country. >> they were misled, deceived, and given falsehoods about the results of the election. >> reporter: those falsehoods were on display in full color in
maricopa, arizona, where they sponsored a so-called election audit last may. it concluded that mr. biden actually won. a summer symposium on 2021 election fraud conducted by the c.e.o. of my pillow yielded no evidence. even so, 2021 saw 19 states, most led by republicans, tighten election laws. one irony of all of this: the conservative-leaning heritage foundation found four of the states president trump contested had some of the nation's most secure voting procedures. helen butler is a proud democrat who served in morgan county georgia for more than a decade. republican county leaders there recently enacted new rules, allowing them to purge board members, including butler. >> if you reconstitute a board with a lot of members made up by
one political party, and political lie of that party is that you have to change the outcome of the election to keep someone in power, this is the way to do it. >> reporter: meaning, as the old saying goes, it doesn't matter as much who votes. it matters more who counts. >> i see it as we didn't get it done this time, but next time i'm going to get it done because i have total control of the election process. >> reporter: threats of violence still stalk americans who did nothing more than count ballots. >> this is where it would start. >> reporter: one of them is tom freitag, director of elections in bucks county, pennsylvania. >> reporter: angry calls, threats, what kind of things are we talking about? >> we received one e-mail that said we would all hang for treason. >> reporter: bucks county is a swing county. mr. trump won pennsylvania by 24,000 votes in 2016, he lost by nearly twice that many in 2020. >> there are high-speed scanners
over here. >> reporter: we met freitag in september of 2020, when he was working to build a vote-counting facility for scratch. tom, i love what you've done with the place. it is a lot different than the last time you were here. >> reporter: how did it all play out? >> we were all nervous going into it. over all, i think it went very smoothly with the hand we were dealt. >> reporter: and yet the threats and bullying continued for a full year. are you frustrated so much you might quit? >> there are days when i wonder why i'm still doing this. i don't think i've gotten to the point where i want to quit just yet, but there are days where i really don't want to come into work. >> this is not something i've seen in the history of this country, accept before the civil war. >> reporter: bob harvie is a commissioner in bucks county. we asked about january 6. >> if you wanted to destroy democracy, the first thing you do is turn members of that country against each other.
the second thing people to start doubting the validity of the elections. >> reporter: doubts, they circulate the country. >> if you count the lawful votes, trump won wisconsin. >> reporter: wisconsin is in the throes of the a public investigation into voter fraud in 2021. >> i am a republican. we can't continue to beat a dead horse. we need to move on. >> reporter: state senator kathy bernier, a former election administrator herself, is a loud trump supporter and among the most conservative voices in the legislature. were there voter fraud cases? yes, they were. and they are being investigated now. but there was no organized, widespread voter fraud in the state of wisconsin that anyone has provided proof of. >> reporter: the man leading the effort to find it, republican state assembly speaker robin vos, declined our interview request for this
story. for some pro-trump republicans, contesting or denying the 2021 result is no different than democrats refusing to accept mr. trump's election. no less harmful they would say than persistent allegations of russian collusion. bernier accepts biden as president, but -- >> the democrats are just as guilty as republicans for perpetuating misinformation or outright lies. >> the stolen election claims, what they do is undermine voters' confidence in the election process. >> reporter: he is more focused now on his next election. a g.o.p. referendum of sorts on election denialism. >> the election conducted on november 3rd was faulty and fraudulent. >> reporter: to certify georgia's election results. how do you feel about this coming up, the primary? >> i can stand on the truth.
what is he going to stand on? >> reporter: hice did clined our repeated report to speak with him. >> i think at some point people have to deal with with the results of the election were. >> reporter: do you feel like your howling in the wind? >> well, like a voice in the wilderness, yeah. our strength, our power, our purpose... starts within. so let's start there. with collagen that supports our body
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>> pauley: it all sta start decades ago with a dinner party. martha teichner offers a closer look at the work of artist judy chicago. ♪♪ >> i wanted to s substitute female heros for male heros. >> the dinner party, a triangular table set for 39 single women. >> you have virginia wolf next to... >> reporter: with the names of nearly 1,000 others on the floor around it. in porcelain and needlework, it has a spiritual, last supper quality intentionally. women volunteers did the sewing. >> you know, all those anonymous features in the broidery class.
what if we talk our techniques and put them in service to our own achievements? >> reporter: considered shocking and provocative when it was first shown in 1979, it was eviscerated by the critics, most of them male. one of them called it "vaginas on plates." >> it tells this story of centuries of struggle, achievement, e eraser. >> reporter: since 2007 with pride of place in its own gallery at the brooklyn museum. >> i used to go around saying, i wonder if i'll live long enough to see the huge body of my art emerge from the shadow (indiscernable). >> reporter: a career retrospective at the de young
museum in san francisco is her first ever. she is 82. this woman acknowledged as the founding mother of feminist art. >> and when i walked in, i got very emotional, actually, because it was not just seeing the work, it was seeing my entire life. >> reporter: in the beginning, all she wanted was to be taken seriously as a woman artist. >> i mean, i would watch these male artists, you know, being moved along in a little choo-choo train to success, and i would have a big show and nothing would happen. >> reporter: born judith cohen, she was married at 21 and a widow at 23, her husband killed in a car crash. just out of graduate school, she threw herself into the southern california art scene and tried to be one of the boys. >> i tried to look tough. i tried smoking cigars for a
while, but that didn't work. >> reporter: by 1970, she had had it. she declared her independence and affirmed her gender and took a name of her own choosing: judy chicago, after her home town. >> i was not going to hide who i was. i was just not. >> reporter: she became an artistic chameleon, matching technique to subject matter. she even went to auto body school to learn spray painting. the result: car hoods like no others. she tackled tough subjects. the extinction of animals, birth, toxic masculinity, the holocaust. a lot of artists don't do 10, 15 techniques in a lifetime. they do one. >> i would be bored. i would shoot myself. now we're going to do purple, blue, green, right?
>> reporter: she and her husband, donald woodman, live and work in an old hotel woodman renovated in belen, new mexico, south of albuquerque. they have been married since 1985. >> the green will blend... >> reporter: woodman is a respected photographer, but also a collaborator on his wife's projects. >> yeah, white. >> white? >> reporter: here judy chicago exists in a kind of exile from the hostility of the art establishment. >> anger can fuel creativity. and in my case it did. i had a burning desire to make art. that is what was the most important thing to me in my life. i gave up everything for it. i don't care; that was my goal. >> reporter: but a funny thing
happened: times changed. the me too world finally got judy chicago. suddenly she was a star. she designed the set for 2020 dior show in paris and a line of dior handbags. last summer judhe an autobgraphe flowering," just in time for the opening of the de young show. >> i think one of the things that actually makes life meaningful is the fact it is going to end. >> reporter: the exhibition begins with the end, her most recent series. so the viewers have no choice but to take in the breadth of what judy chicago has done. >> and then they'll come into this room and they'll go, oh, thank god! [laughter] >> the pastel color and light. >> right. and abstraction.
>> reporter: she has always loved color. her favorite is purple. you'd never guess. on a perfect mid-october evening, outside the de young museum, she set off an explosion of color. >> look at that! >> reporter: the non-toxic smokes billowed and blended. [cheering] >> reporter: for thousands of fans, and they watched art ter:ed o two feet. the art world be damned. for judy chicago, validation after all of this time looks like this. >> thank you. [applause and cheering] > >> thank you.
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that's a great moment right there. the ref going to the rule book here. what, wait a minute! harris is off to the races! we don't need any more trick plays. touchdown!! but we could all use more ways to save. are you kidding me?? it's going to be a long bus ride home for the defense. switch to geico for more ways to save. >> pauley: it happened this past friday, the death of betty white, the beloved comedian just two weeks shy of her 100 100th birthday. with mo rocca we look back with laughter. >> by the time i got to high school, the kids made up this mean name for me because i had hairy legs. >> what did they call you? >> rose with the hairy legs. >> if you have one good series,
you know, it's a blessing. two good series is unusual. three is, where do you get privileges like that. >> that's why you're always avoiding me. because you know if you get too close, you're afraid the pilot light of desire that flickered within you might turn your whole oven on. >> reporter: she portrayed sue ann nivens on the "mary tyler moore show". james l.brooks was the show's creator. >> oh, my poor baby. >> there is a great show where sue ann pulls out a collapsed souffle. >> she was inventive. i think there was less direction
of her than anybody. she had it all. i think she could have been a tremendous dramatic actress if she wanted to. >> reporter: in 1985, betty white did a 180 and played a lovable dim whit rose niland. >> it was 1951, it was the first year they humans end the pageant. >> reporter: in 2010, white co-starred with wendy malick in "hot in cleveland." >> they are naming the show after me. >> did they loose a bet or something. >> i turned 60 on "hot in cleveland," when we were working together, and she was on the cusp of 90 at the time. and i thought there is a whole ot act ahead of me. >> reporter: white's career in television predated television itself. months before the medium was
introduced to the public, 17-year-old betty appeared on a experimental audition in los angeles. off-screen, white had two great passions in her life, including animals of all times. >> people would come up to her and say, i want to show you a picture of my kids. and when they would show her actual pictures of their kids, she would look so disappointed. she was hoping for a little lamb. >> reporter: the great two-legged love of her life was her husband, allen luden. he was a contestant, and he, soon enough, popped the question. >> i wasted a whole year. i might have been a good game player, but you dumb as a lady. >> what were they like? >> they were trumpedly loving. they were precious to each other. >> why, betty white, it is nice
to see you again. >> nice to see you. >> when i look at youtube on the game show, you can see how much they liked each other. i think adored was the word. >> reporter: after luden died, white kept on working hosting "saturday night live" when she was 88. something wendy credits to her unfailingly positive outlook. >> i remember somebody coming up to her once, and said, you know what i hate? and she said, no, and frankly, i don't care to know. that was pretty much betty. she didn't want you to dump your dark woes and worries and an angst -- she wasn't interested in that. she thought there was always something you could be thankful about. >> why is she so beloved? >> betty was a deeply good person, something of a higher quality about her that i think
everybody sensed. we all kidded around and palled around, but we treated her a little differently, i think. there was something special about her. >> i'm honored to be able to say a few words about how truly wonderful she was. because sometimes you're asked to do these things and you have to sort of pull out the good parts and ignore the rest. with betty, there is no leaving the rest behind. it is all good. >> reporter: white worried people were sick of seeing her on tv. she even speculated this for her gravestone... >> at last she is gone. she finally got off (laughing). >> reporter: but even at 99, betty white left us wanting more. [laughter] [laughter] >> rose, it is not that funny. >> e i know. i think i better keep the lid on this paint thinner.
>> pauley: steve hartman now on the power of a mother's love. >> these are the presents? >> at first blush, this may look like another one of those viral videos, a soldier surprising her family after months apart. >> mommy! >> but our story isn't about this reunion. it is about the woman who made it possible. mattie mitchell is the unseen hand behind this untold number of joyful surprises here in nashville, tennessee.
this stay-at-home mother of two with a third on the way got started making other people's days after her worst day. a fourth child, liam, a preemie, died at just five weeks. >> i felt like my son can't just come in this world just to suffer and then die. >> reporter: he found his purpose? >> uh-huh. and it has helped so many kids. >> reporter: how many good deeds has your group done? >> hundreds. >> mattie started a non-profit called "liam changed the world," and in the 10 years, he has. from planning a parade for a kid with cancer, to collecting supplies for flood victims. if kindness is needed, liam's mom is there. she wanted to help harmony jackson surprise her family. harmony had seen her kids in person -- >> i said i love you.
>> -- in seven months. she offered to o orchestrate the reunion. she showered them with gifts and finally the ultimate present. of course, for matt tie, the moment was tinged with irony. a hug like this is something she and liam will never know. but m mattie insists every good deed she does reignites her, too. >> i would say that is him doing his work from heaven. he is still working his presence from up there. >> nice work, liam. you're raising a great mom. >> thank you so much. >> i just want to do good. >> mission accomplished. >> thank you. about covid-19
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president trump last february. >> this trial is about who we are, who we are. >> reporter: and they now see him on the committee investigating the january 6 capitol assault. >> we have a duty to collect all of the evidence we need to report back to congress and to the american people. >> reporter: but many viewers may not know that raskin has carried out these duties under circumstances most of us could not even imagine. after all, jamie raskin seems to have lived a charmed life. since 2017, representing a maryland congressional district that shares his pragmatic progressive ideals. >> this is a community of activists and dreamers. it always has been. >> reporter: he met his wife, law professor, sarah bloom rskin, a former deputy treasury
secretary when they were both students at harvard law school. so why did you marry him? >> i knew life would be really, really deep and beautiful with jamie. >> reporter: jamie raskin's mom, barbara, was a best-selling novelist, his dad an anti-vietnam war activist who ended up on president richard nixon's enemy list. >> it gave me a sensitivity for people who get into the highest office of the presidency and then abuse it for their own political purposes. >> reporter: when raskin, a long time professor of constitutional law at american university, decided to enter politics, his family was all in. sarah, daughters hannah and tabitha, and especially son tommy. >> tommy was pure magic. he just was. he was always writing plays.
he was always writing poems. everybody wanted to be around him. >> reporter: as gifted as he was, he also, as he went into adolescence and beyond, started to have some problems with anxiety and other mental issues? >> yeah, he did. like so many kids today, he had a struggle with mental health. >> reporter: during the pandemic, tommy took his harvard law school classes remotely from the raskin's maryland home. he was shaken by both george floyd's death and president trump's false election claims. >> the darkness of the time overcame him. >> reporter: and on the night of december 30th, 2020, tommy raskin would take his own life. and the next morning you were the one that found him? >> yes. >> reporter: i can't even
imagine what that must have felt like. >> like the end of the world. >> reporter: tommy left a note -- >> yes. >> reporter: -- for you and the family. what did it say? >> please forgive me, my illness won today. look after each other, the animals, and the global port for me. all my love, tommy. for him to ask for forgiveness of us means that we can ask forgiveness from him. >> reporter: but jamie raskin's new book, " unthinkable," is not only about the tragedy of his son's suicide, but also about the tragedy that befell the whole nation a few days later. on january 6, raskin felt duty-bound to be in the house
chamber when congress was to certify joe biden as the next president. >> madam speaker, members of congress... >> reporter: he breathed a sigh of relief when mike pence refused donald trump's demand to reject from electoral votes. was vice-president pence a hero? >> on that day he was a hero. this is a guy i thought went along with way too much with the trump administration, but on that day he was a constitutional patriot. >> reporter: once the proceedings began, raskin got up to speak. >> i want to thank you for your love and tenderness which my family and i will never forget. >> everybody was in a standing ovation, and i was absolutely o overcome withemotion. and i thought for a split second, maybe the two sides weren't going to fight, but that was a bit of a fantasy.
>> reporter: after president trump repeated the big lie that the election had been stolen from him, trump supporters were seen storming the capitol, trying to break into the house chamber. >> boom, boom, boom! at that point it was pandemonium and chaos. >> reporter: raskin and other members found themselves running through the hallways, trying to find a safe place to shelter. >> were you terrified? >> i didn't feel any fear the entire time. and i think that was because of tommy. the very worst thing that could ever happen to me has already happened. and then i felt like tommy was in my chest. i felt him by my heart. he was giving me strength. >> reporter: last february, after the house voted to impeach donald trump for incitement of
insurrection, he became a lead in the house. but the dems c democrats could not get the two-thirds majority to convict. did you ever think impeachment would carry the day? >> i believed from the very beginning, up until the moment when the roll call was called, i thought we could get 100 votes. >> reporter: undaunted, congressman jamie raskin agreed to serve on the january 6 committee, trying to uncover what he now sees as a plot to stage a coup. >> there was a plan essentially to set aside the presidential election of 2020, despite the fact that joe biden won by more than one million votes. >> reporter: given your own personal tragedy, why do you stay in the fight? >> look, i already lost my son, the thing most precious to me. but i'm not going to see american democracy go down the
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and ever-shifting tides, which expose yet another pearl of the cape: oysters. >> these guys are scattered all around here, but the trick is to know what is a live one and what is just a dead shell. >> reporter: it is a centuries-old search on this peninsula, which still captivates and challenges many, including my dad, paul doane. >> it is kind of like a treasure hunt. >> it is like a treasure hunt. >> reporter: and while it might not appear so appetizing, he is h harvesting a delicacy. >> this one isn't big enough, but this one is. >> reporter: today, oysters are devoured by the dozens in raw bars. and here locals insist theirs are the very best. >> you can tell a well souffleed oyster. everything seems to blend well,
the temperatures, the tides that come in. >> reporter: there is a massive 12-foot tidal exchange, feeding these m molesks. they're quite firmly attached to rocks and shells. my dad, an 11th generation cape codder and former state senator appreciates the history of oysters and the lack of politics, and, well, people, out here. >> it is a tranquil place and i find it very therapeutic. and i find the worst the conditions, the more i enjoy it. >> why? >> it is kind of like being out there alone, as opposed th to a gorgeous day when people come out in droves. >> reporter: he holds a few licenses here, allowing him each
week a bucket of oysters of a certain size. just off the flats, award den makes sure that folks are following the rules. her workday runs by the tides. >> you have the tides in your calendar? >> i do. >> reporter: like going to the dentist or going grocery shopping -- >> i really do. >> reporter: nancy civetta is the shellfish constable. her accessories are on point, an oyster and a clam. >> i do that to honor the two products that make this town tick. >> reporter: she is charged with keeping wellfleet's $8 million shellfish industry healthy and productive. >> of course, we're a tourism town in the summer, but this industry is what makes us survive. >> reporter: we watched her colleagues, including a manic named johnnie clam, dump raw oysters offshore, where they'll spawn in the wild.
but a maturity of oysters h harvested are raised by 135 farmers. how many oysters are you growing at any time? >> a million. >> reporter: a million? >> yes. >> reporter: jake puffer learned the business from his dad, irving. >> pass the torch, or the clam bake. in this case, that is more appropriate. >> reporter: their family has roots back to the nosset tribe, whose ancestors fished in these waters years ago. the puffer's underwater farm spans 16 acres. they are not deterred by rain or heat nor gloom of night. >> we come out in just about anything. as the mail goes through, so do the oysters. >> reporter: my dad has his sort of oyster delivery, too. he can squeeze nearly 12 dozen into that bucket. >> but you can't eat 12 dozen
oysters? >> but i know people who can eat 12 dozen. >> reporter: he shares these oysters with friends. on his drive back home, he stops along the way. first to see dale and pete wade. >> these are great. perfect'5k size. >> as always. >> reporter: and then after dark, packed some for patti smith. >> when you called and said you had some oysters, i don't think i've ever said no. >> no, no, you haven't. >> reporter: at home, the holiday tradition continues. >> i like the gathering of them better than the opening of them. >> reporter: it is a lot of work, at least for him. my mom, helen, and i usually come in for the easy part. >> salty and cold. they're good.
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army general, steven anderson. >> 43 years ago, i swore an oath to protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. back then who could have imagined the domestic attack on our democracy a year ago this week. i have become concerned that our military has become politicized, and affected by the acrimony ne that plagues our society today. consider this: at least 10% of the january 6 insurrection was charged with crimes were in the military. over 100 senior militaries signed an open letter supporting trump's big lie about the 2020 election. mikemichael flynn advocated military action to support this claim. and a republican party spent the last year downplaying the insurrection and obstructing investigations. all of this nonsense may confuse or troops about allegiance to a leader and allegiance to our
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>> pauley: he is a super hero in the movies, but you might call the stage his first home. that's where i found tony-award-winning actor hugh jackman. 76 trombones heralded the covid-delayed revival of the music man, and the return of one of the biggest names on broadway. >> hugh jackman is back. >> i am back. >> pauley: finally beginning a run that is supposed to have ended a year ago. >> gentlemen, you intrigue me. >> pauley: full houses, fully vaccinated and masked, welcomed him with show-stopping ovation. >> what better job to have than to allow people come and put
your troubles aside for a second and let's go on a little adventure. ♪♪ ♪ with a capital "d" ♪ >> pauley: set in a little iowa town with no taste for adventure, "the music man" is one of broadway's most enduring hits. >> reporter: your first stage experience was? >> the music man. hello. >> i knew that. >> so i auditioned and i did that whole salesman thing. >> ever meet a fell fellow by the name of hill. >> hill? >> hill. >> hill? >> hill, no. >> i did the entire thing. ever met a fellow by the name of hill? >> hill? hill.
hill? hill. >> pauley: how many others did all eight parts? >> none. >> pauley: a go-getter since 18, and a newcomer to broadway. 18 years ago, he won a tony for his portrayal of flamboyant fellow australian peter allen. >> there is a scene with my boyfriend, and we kiss in the scene. and someone had clearly come who was an "x" man fan. and as we kiss, i hear this don't do it, wolverine, no! >> i had to turn and say, i'm sorry, man. i'm sorry. >> pauley: most people know hugh jackman as wolverine in the "x" man movie franchise. but just when it was tempting to think maybe he did have some super powers, not long after
sutton foster tested positive for covid. on tuesday, the music man tested positive, too. >> i'm just going to do everything i can to get better asap, and as soon as i'm cleared, i'll be back up on the stage, heading to river city. >> pauley: ironically, the word "positive" defines hugh jackman. you've got a little professor hill in you? >> a little bit. i'm an optimist, yeah. >> pauley: in the show, so-called professor herald hill is a hot star. >> harold hill loves danger. he gets off that train because they're talking about there is no way he could do what he does in this town, no, no, not in iowa. and that's when he goes, oh, gentlemen, you intrigue me. it's, like, all right, now i've got a challenge. yeah, you've got it. >> pauley: and so does he. at 53, he has taken on a part so
physically challenging he has lost 10 pounds since the start of rehearsals. it is easy to see why. >> that was it. >> pauley: jackman didn't come from a show business family. his parents, christopher and grace, emigrated from england to australia in the 1960s. but nine years later, his mother went back alone, leaving five children. he was the youngest. >> from the age of eight, my father brought me and my siblings up. if i think to what those 10 years must have been like -- >> pauley: for him? >> yeah. i was eight, and my older sister was 16, and so five kids in there, and working full-time and cooking and cleaning and all of that, it was extraordinary. >> pauley: today jackman has a close relationship with his mother. but he had an even closer one with his father, who he lost to alzheimer's in september. >> it is the first time i've
talked about it, so it is hard. but, um, when i went to see him in june, he would smile, and he was there. and he would connect. but, um, in many ways he was gone as well. >> pauley: look for scars from his childhood trauma, and you'll find a chronically nice guy. >> i think, for me, my default was, yeah, sure. >> pauley: and why do you think that was? >> i think -- i know, actually -- that that was my way of finding security. what do i need to do in thisath
>> pauley: and it nearly derailed a brilliant career. >> i said, dad, can i get dance lessons, and my brother overheard, and he was like sissy. >> pauley: he didn't take those dance lessons until eight years later. >> i'll never forget it. my brother said, i said something to you really stupid years ago. and i'm really sorry i said that because i think you belong up on that stage. and i said, what? and he said, i said something really stupid about dancing. and i said, oh, yeah, i did miss dancing. and i signed up for tap dancing the next day. >> pauley: after broadway shut down in 2020, jackman kept working with the choreographer to stay on. >> ready?
>> what? no. >> pauley: i do not have dancing feet. >> c'mere. come over here. >> pauley: i'm coming. but as they say in australia, give it a go. aren't you aware -- >> i am clearly when i'm learning, so when you're going like that, it just means your caught up in your head. >> when i'm following you around, i'm thinking hugh jackman. i'm not thinking of my wobbly knees. >> it is just your attention is outside of yourself. >> i'm not even thinking about my hands now. >> and the more you can get out of your head and have somebody do -- on stage for me it is about connection with the audience and connection with the other actors. >> pauley: he is a very good teacher. now here i am, i'm dancing rings around hugh jackman. >> look at her hands.
dah-dah-dah. >> pauley: this is dancing. and later this week, with sutton foster and company, hugh jackman, the music man, will take a bow once again. ♪ 76 trombones ♪ >> pauley: what does a standing ovation mean to you? >> to me, it is kind of a confirmation of the very best of why we do what we do. ♪♪ [applause and cheering] >> it's, like, something has happened, and afterwards you go and hug each other because you don't know what else to say. that's what it feels like. [applause and cheering] or worse, that it was some way to take your home.
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he has done rap, pop, and country. and he is all of 22 years old. tracy smith caught up with him. ♪♪ ♪ long ago ♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: don't be fooled by his name, lil nas x does things big. his debut album has number one hits. two billion streams on spotify, and five grammy nominations, including album of the year. ♪♪ >> reporter: what is the story of montero? >> this album came during quarantine. i was like in this place in life where i had this huge moment. >> reporter: that moment was thinks to his breakout single "old town road." ♪♪ >> reporter: it was, you could say, a bonanza, a mega hit that made him an almost instant star. ♪ i'm gonna ride until i can't
no more ♪ >> it was, like, okay, what do i do now? so i just went for it. >> reporter: when you say you went for it, what do you mean? >> i mean, i went for it as in okay, how do i reinvent myself and express myself more than i did last time. ♪ call me when you need, call me in the morning ♪ >> reporter: so this time lil nas x wrote songs about his real life as a gay man and called the album by his real first name, montero. all by a gen "z" master of self-promotion and provocation. if you could do this year in a word, what would it be? >> transformation. >> reporter: transformation? >> yeah >> reporter: why transformation? >> i feel like i've bloomed into an entirely new version of myself. >> reporter: montero lamar hill grew up in the atlanta area, a class clown and an honor
role student. >> i had a lot of fun and a lot of sad moments, too. >> reporter: what were your parents like? >> here we go. my dad, he's a great guy. he got custody of me around the age of 10. me and my mom, we were kind of close growing up until addiction got in the way. right now, you know, we're on good terms. i try to make sure she is always taken care of. honestly, i'll say this: i've never, i guess, been super close with either of my parents. i've always felt like, i guess a lone person. >> reporter: what do you think that did, not really being close to your parents? >> i think it is one of those thing that could help and hurt you at the same time because i had to find independence within myself. >> you know, you're so focused on a goal you are trying to achieve, you forget about the things that make us human, like love. who wants love?
[cheering] >> reporter: did you find comfort in social media? >> yes. that is probably one of the first places where i was, like, oh, my gosh, this is for me. >> reporter: what is your relationship with twitter? >> it has been, like, my actual home, my actual family. i've become closer to people i've met on line than people i've met in real life. i've learned the ways of the internet. i've learned how to go viral and what to stay out of. >> reporter: and when to crack a joke. there is one, god, i love me, i'm so smart and hot, really wishing me the best in life. >> yes, that sounds like me. i want to always bring goofiness and entertainment to everything i do, even if it is a serious topic. ♪♪ >> reporter: he channelled that goofiness into a song he first posted on social media. what i was your life like? >> i had just got kicked out of
my sister's house and my brother's account. >> reporter: and your bank account? >> i had negative $6.50, if i remember correctly. >> reporter: that changed overnight. "old town roads" sat on the top for nearly five months, an all-time record. it became a viral pop culture phenomenon. at the time you have the number one song in the country, that's when you decided to come out. >> yes. >> reporter: why then? >> that would be the most authentic time. i'm not doing it for attention. i'm the number one artist in the world right now. >> reporter: were you at all worried about being your true self? >> there was definitely some fear there. there is always going to be fear when you're doing something that is literally life-changing. >> reporter: nas is not the first out gay rapper, but he may
be the first to celebrate his sexuality so openly. >> i feel like i'm definitely much more out there with it. it has always been okay if you're gay, but this needs to be sanitized. it was like be gay without being gay. we don't want to know what happens behind closed doors. >> reporter: and you're saying? >> i'm going to do that if i want to. and i want every other artist to feel the same way. i see everybody has been talking about this issue. >> reporter: he marketed satan's shoes with a drop of blood in the sole. and in the music video for montero, he wrote "a stripper pole to hell for a lap dance with the devil." what do you mean by that? >> you know it is like gay people go to hell.
so i went to hell. and o my gosh, why did he do that? wasn't i going there anyway? >> reporter: he bends gender with what he wears, favoring the bold. >> a lot of people want to be in their suits, but me, i want to be shiny. >> reporter: and you better believe he knows how to work a red carpet. ♪♪ >> reporter: it all takes a certain amount of confidence, especially on stage, but sometimes even nas has to summon that up. >> i still feel a lot of anxty e feel very confident. ♪ i want to sell what your buying ♪ >> reporter: at a concert last month, he kept the nerves in check. he knows he has to. >> all of the artists are amazing at performing. i just want to get better and better at it. >> video of the year, lil nas x. >> reporter: and at only 22, he has got plenty of time to do
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