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from nbc news, decision night in america. here is lester holt. >> here we go, ladies and gentlemen. welcome to decision night in america here at nbc's democracy plaza. it is 7:00 p.m. in the east, polls have just closed in six states. we have our first projections up on theac plaza. nbc news projects that donald trump will win the state of indiana. we project, donald trump will win in kentucky as well. vermont goes to hillary clinton. the projected winner in vermont. we're watching virginia. the polls have closed there. too early to call, clinton however leading in virginia. georgia, also, too close to call. and south carolina, too early to call.
to 270 electoral votes. here is how it stands based on the calls. trump with 19. clinton with 3. we map it out on the ice for you in democracy plaza. the map will fill in with a lot of red and blue before this night is over. again, 270 its the magic number that will elect our next president. come on inside, we say a big good evening. i'm lester holt alongside election night team, savannah ri savannah, whatever happens tonight. history will be made? >> we have an unconventional candidate against an unprecedented candidate. this election has changed so much about our politics, it up-ended every assumption, redefined what it means to be a republican or democrat in this country and it will be very exciting to see who turns out tonight. who shows up to vote. what that coalition might look like for hillary clinton or donald trump. i think we are in for a cliffhanger on the senate side. who is going to control the
tonight? >> we will learn a lot early. look, we are learning something now. the quick indiana call means that republicans came home. you know it was three weeks ago before comey, indiana was neck and neck. and the fact we can call a poll close, a sign, republicans came home, mike pence's home state. look at virginia and georgia. we may be talking about the story. the southeast corner of the united states over the last 12 years we have seen this battleground map change and now om battleground joining florida, virginia, north carolina the atlantic seaboard. spending a lot of time tonight, in how quickly those races get called will tell us how long this night is going to be on the presidential front. >> tom, a lot of big themes that will extend far beyond 2016 we'll be watching tonight? >> this country has been simmering for some time. this election is not going to end all of that. the question -- does it boil over depending on who wins? i think that is the real test for who ever wins this race. also the test for the country.
there is a lot of absence of confidence in the institutions of governance. 54% of the people said recently they would defeat every member of congress, republican or democrat alike. who ever wins tonight, going forward from here is going to have to find a way to reach across the lines to the red state or blue states because there are a lot of each. however you look at the map. and get them to work together toward a common goal. that's the big, big challenge, lester. >> hallie jackson in the newsroom here with a full team working on rti >> hi, lester. our team of correspondents blanketing the country coast to coast, not just polling places and election watch parties but in key battleground states. of course campaign headquarters. i will be digging through exit polls here. and this is the engine room of our election center the we have our vote watch unit here led by cynthia mcfadden, pete williams checking for voting irregularities, legal issues that might pop up. political unit with pollsters
be bringing you all the coverage for the next seven hours, maybe more. lester. >> okay, thank you very much. keeping a close eye on clinton and trump election headquarters. manhattan's pretty small town right there. all located a short distance from each other and us here in midtown. let's check in with them now. starting with andrea mitchell at clinton headquarters. hello, andrea. >> reporter: good evening, lester. this is the night that hillary clinton has been waiting for. she is in a midtown hotel with her husband of c president clinton, and other close friends and family. but they're hoping this will not be a nail biter. but we have learned they have written two speeches. they're hoping of course it is a victory speech that she declares and she is able to finally shatter that glass ceiling. and the convention center here has a glass ceiling. so that is the symbolism of what they're trying to do and hope to accomplish tonight. the real issue -- what happens in north carolina? they see north carolina as the
states. they say they're confident. but where they have gone in the last 24 hours tells the story. we were at 1:00 this morning at a rally in north carolina. raleigh, north carolina. earlier in pennsylvania. pennsylvania, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell telling me it is not a done deal. they can't take pennsylvania for granted. so therefore, that big extravaganza with both obamas and clintons in front of the independence hall in philadelphia last night. and earlier in the day, she went so that tells the story about just how nervous they are. they don't want to leave anything on the table and again hoping she can finally achieve the goal that she has sought, so hard, for 18 months and in fact for decades earlier. >> andrea mitchell at clinton headquarters in manhattan. katie tur at trump headquarters in new york. hello, katey. >> hey there, lester. donald trump is watching the returns come in at trump tower. surrounded by his family and his close aides.
confident. they're already touting a record turnout from what they call a white republican counties in new hampshire and in michigan. but i spoke to a couple new hampshire source whose tell me they're not as confident as the the donald trump campaign. they describe the state, tense, close, sickening. i spoke to multiple sources inside and outside the campaign, absolutely everybody believes this is going to be a tight race. they're focusing on four states. theiror conway puts it, ohio, florida, iowa, north carolina. from there they will look to michigan, a blue state that they hope to turn red. and get donald trump the presidency. but this is a campaign, lester that has conceded from the beginning that they're the underdogs, the infrastructure, the money, the electoral map was never in their favor. >> katie tur tonight. katie, thank you very much. let's talk now about some of the results we ticked off at the top
georgia. chuck, too close to call. georgia is considered a deep red state. >> well it has been. the clinton campaign talked about investing it, they said "well you, know what, we need to put more, takes more time to make georgia competitive." obama flirted with it. now looks like firmly battleground. talked to republicans they were surprised in the last weekend, surprised the clinton campaign didn't make more play for georgia early, the same way the democrats talked about is a problem for the democratic side. but here's what we are, i am going to keep an eye on. outside of atlanta, kalb county, romney won by double digits. college education split in this electorate. if she carries georgia, we'll see the evidence in kalb, doesn't have to carry kalb, but has the to be a swing. to win georgia. we'll find out out. >> fascinating watching where
side makes them think they should be worried about. thinking of the to do list that has so many things left off of it. >> absolutely. you are going to hear chuck talk about the suburbs all night long. that ultimately might be one of stories that emerges here. whether or not hillary clinton can pull more of the married white women, might have traditionally voted republican into her corner if she can that's potentially a fact tr that could be decisive. and they have all kind of once again, gone to the same starting to see the glimmers of new demographic battle grounds, as i just mentioned and also new geographic battle grounds. chuck talked -- georgia, airs airs -- arizona got a late visit from hillary clinton. i think we are going to see a lot of that kind of conventional thinking about politics and the map. potentially up-ended tonight. >> tom? >> what you see tonight -- what
this country is changing at warp speed. look at the hispanic vote. republicans rejected the hispanics, going back, pete wilson ran hard against mywards in california. republicans said we lost a constituency that belonged to us. these are family oriented people. they're very faithful. they work hard. we have given them to the democrats by our attack on them. look at women taking a more prominent place in not just in the congress of the united states, the number of governors around the country, number of women, heads of corporations, big bankers, half the law school classes now are filled with women. here is one of them. and doctors as well. so, that is a changing map, that is going on out there. and these two candidates have been running behind the curve in my judgment. and not reaching out to figure out how they're going to get ahead of the constituency that is out there looking for
they could have. >> all right, chuck, walk me through the states that really could determine this thing tonight. >> yeah, look, i think we know. we have talked about florida. i kind of want to build on this larger point here. we know that i think -- and just in this respect. if clinton wins this election she is going to win it because of this southeast corridor. and if donald trump wins this election it will be he overperforms. that's what is going on here. we have seen the gro the southeastern states are becoming more diverse. the difference in georgia, north carolina, florida, virginia. isn't going to be african-american vote. going to be hispanic vote. up here there isn't a lot of hispanic vote in michigan. isn't a lot in pennsylvania. that is what has given trump real chances in both michigan and pennsylvania. iowa, ohio. we are seeing, by the way, the map may look very similar to 2012 when it is all said and done. i want to emphasize what tom
underneath in the state maps are going to look a lot different. once we start seeing real numbers come in. for what it is worth. very little actual vote is in. keeping a huge eye for instance on florida. because we are seeing more vote come in right now in florida than anywhere else. but again, 2% in. so, as you can see all coming from essentially one semirural county. >> yeah, right now. a lot of what we are dealing with is anecdotal conversation what has been happening in the states. let's go to kerry sanders, to sweep around battleground states. kerry in florida. what are you seeing there? >> well, the polls closed at 7:00 where i am. inside there is about a half dozen voters still inside. about a men out before they close the polls they made an announcement. two people literally sprinted inside. the reason they're still inside voting is, while it is the presidential election that everybody is watching, of course, the vote itself. the ballot is rather long. so it can take up to 20, 30 minutes for some people to actually vote here.
zones. so while the polls have closed here, as you go out to the panhandle, the polls are still open for, well, till 7:00 that type. then people can, continue to vote as long as they have been in line. it is likely that we are going to have a pretty long night here because of how close things are. i am along the i-4 corridor. while it is all indications are that the real determination of who is going to take the state will be along this corridor, as you were just talking, the hispanic vote may actually turn this sta is those puerto rican whose have moved along the i-4 corridor that are really likely to perhaps determine who wins or loses here. consider this fact, since they have had their economic problems on the island there, about 7,000 puerto ricans a month have been leaving that island and many of them coming here, in fact, with the current projections we may wind up having the largest puerto rican showing here not in new york where they are still
>> how much have you seen here of the ground game that we hear so much about -- this getting out the vote effort? >> well the ground game on the democratic side has been much stronger than on the republican side. hillary clinton's teams have actually gone door to door and had people in cars bringing voters out to the polls where on the republican side it's been a little bit more of people being self-motivated to come out. i think it will be very interesting. because donald trump made it supporters would just show up at the polls because he saw such huge crowds and many of them of course showing up in the state. we'll see whether that translates into the votes that he thinks will result. >> kerry sanders. thank you very much. let's move on up to north carolina, a part of the country, chuck was circling. rehema ellis is there. tell us what you have seen there throughout the day? >> reporter: well i can tell you the polls are still open here.
it was a long line of people here. later on not so much. it was steady. officials say it has been like that statewide. they say it is primarily because there has been a record all-time early voting here in this state. with 17 voting days before today. it's added up to 45% of registered voters here in north carolina who cast their votes before this day. making this a tossup state for clinton and for trump. i can tell you what happened when i talked to some folks who came out ofhe the republican and clinton voters alike were happy they voted and more than that they're relieved this is over. >> all right, rehema ellis for us, polls close in north carolina at 7:30 eastern. 15 electoral votes there. tammy leightner at a polling place in manchester, new hampshire, have seen a lot of movement there, tammy over a week or so. notoriously hard place for
>> you know, lester, new hampshire still a wild card the we have been speaking with voters all afternoon. i can tell you one thing, this state is divided. now, keep in mind this is where trump got his start. this is where he won his first primary. also, something to keep in mind. 40% of the voters here are declared, undeclared, both making a push here. trump has been here nine times. president obama was here yesterday campaigning for clinton. i can tell you tha one other thing we want to mention, lester the crucial senate race. i can tell you tonight when the polls close everybody is going to be looking at new hampshire. to see one, who is in the white house. and two, who takes control of the senate. lester. >> tammy, thank you very much. we are here in our nbc news election center. barely getting started. await more poll closings. we are going to dig into the exit polling coming up. see what we can glean from that. we are learning some very interesting things about what
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democracy plaza. welcome back from our nbc news election center. she and her team have been digging into exiting polling we are getting. what have you got? >> lester, looking at three big themes tonight. the first character for each of the candidates. remember this entire campaign, each candidate has tried to paint the other as basically unfit for the presidency. take a look at these numbers of honest and trust worthy. you can see voters nationwide, found 60% of them rather found hillary clinton to not be honest or trust worthy. so that means, 6 in 10 voters
little higher. this is still clinton again. for donald trump, it's 64% of people who feel that way. so what does this mean? it means there is still a considerable character problem. no matter who ends up in the white house. we want to talk, the trump numbers behind me. another team tonight. hispanic voters. heard chuck talking earlier this hour, how key the latino vote will be. right now we see hispanic voters breaking for hillary clinton, not so surprising, what we are underperforms mitt romney in 2012. right now no indication he is. remember, still early in the evening. these are our early exits. which means we are waiting on west coast figures to come in. the final point i want to make sheer, we are closely watching what happens with college educated white women. this is kind of a swing group. went for barack obama in 2008. mitt romney, 2012. look where they're breaking right now. for hillary clinton by 8 points. she has flipped that group from last cycle. but take a look at where trump is doing better.
educated white women. he is up over hillary clinton by 24 points according to our early exit polls. this is decisive for him. and it illustrates, guys this is not so much a gender gap that we will be talking about tonight, more of an education gap when it comes to white women voters. >> all right, hallie, let's turn to savannah. struck by numbers, honesty. trump and clinton viewed the same by voters. she was the one that seemed to be labeled with the truth issue. >> by the way, donal called her crooked hillary for the better part of the general election. what is interesting how remarkably stable the negative ratings are. they haven't gone too much hyperor too much lower. let's be clear. they're astronomically high for both candidates. the two most unpopular presidential candidates in history. they have very high negatives. but in a sense they're kind of washing each out since they both viewed unfavorably by voters by the way even by some of their supporters.
unpopular than him. our pollsters will say you are right. but at this point, look at the difference of those negatives. that matters. >> stay with us. we are just getting started. we are minutes away from poll closings in north carolina and ohio. we'll characterize those races for you when those polls close. decision night in america continues right here on nbc. around here, i'm lucky to get through a shift without a disaster. heads up!
of the next set of poll closings. 7:30 eastern closings. north carolina, ohio, west virginia. i want to go quickly to chuck todd right now. how late do you think north carolina is going to keep us? >> yeah, what are you doing thursday? >> oh, come on, no. >> between the senate race and presidential. could keep us up, i think north carolina is that close. it is a state with very few swing voters. that's what makes like the countr r hard. it is why it is such a polarized state. let's not forget north carolina. hb 2. the last battle taking place tonight in north carolina. >> ohio is going to close. historic battleground state. how large does it loom right now? >> it is interesting here. hillary clinton can win the presidency without winning a ohio. and she would be the first democrat to do it since john
white house without ohio. much more important path to 270 for donald trump than it is for hillary clinton. >> this is what we talk about, the idea that she came in with multiple paths. thinking she had multiple paths. >> she does. always, the atlantic seaboard has allowed her to essentially lose ohio, lose iowa, and still have various paths to 270. because of what is going on, the atlantic coast. >> polls close in 5:30. stay with us. polls are going to close in more states. includin ohio. our decision night in america
welcome back from our election center. 7:30 in the east. polls have closed in three states including two very important swing states. take you through them right now. the state of ohio. too close al north carolina -- too early to call. west virginia, nbc news projects when the votes are counted, donald trump wins west virginia. a state where his message played well. it is coal industry has taken a beating. hillary clinton, made a misstep there when she talked about putting coal workers out of a job. trump goes, gets west virginia. as we look at the race to 270. we move done to the ice there on
clinton with 3, 19 to trump. at this early hour. nicole wallace joins our panel now. i want you all to react to some numbers we are seeing coming in from florida now. keeping in mind all the polls have not closed there. but we are getting some raw numbers. what are you seeing as we put them up, chuck? >> i am seeing, look, we have got, 40% already of the vote in. all early vote here. but here's what's not in. we only half precincts in broward county at all. barely anything out of miami. what you are seeing now, watching the map. clinton up a point. what that is, that's where the vote is currently coming in. if you see any gray there, means we have had zero vote in from there. all that is telling you is who is leading in the county. as you see there, obviously it's the southeast corner where the population is, miami, broward, palm beach. you see no broward.
florida. the fact that she has a lead right now in the raw vote, before we have anything out of broward county, you are going to have a lot of nervous trump people. and a lot of very, very, excited clinton people. >> nicole. let me ask you. even trump said florida was must win. but then down the stretch here we saw, let's go to michigan. looking for other paths and suggesting they might have them. do they exist? or is this a head fake we have seen? >> so even some of trump's closest vi afternoon today were starting to talk about what if? what if donald trump hadn't engaged in a month long battle against the kahn family, what if donald trump hadn't taken so long and never properly apologized for access hollywood, and the what if, the answer to the what if -- what if he focused instead on a strategy that remade the map where his economic message, direct line into people experiencing economic despair in upper midwest what if they had a real campaign could have targeted
then it wouldn't be a lights out moment for them if they come up short in florida. call this the checkmate state. i agree with that. but this story if they've comep short tonight will be about a campaign that was, was not lost at the beginning. they had the potential to take his economic message. take his outsider message and turn some states that really haven't been available to republicans they could have taken that message in a concerted manner with real traditional. maybe boring in trump eyes. turnout operation. could have done boring things. they could have done some of the twitter. i think what they will talk about if they come up short how they might have been able to remake the map so states like north carolina and florida weren't do or die for them. >> did donald trump have his finger on the pulse, tom, of what americans cared about? >> any number of people. he ran a brilliant campaign from the ground up at the beginning. but he continued to run through the general election like it was a primary. that the voter turnout was much different in the reality than
him. 60% of the people who voted for him today according to the exit polls and the surveys that the we did, thought he did not have the right temperament to be the president of the united states. these are people who voted for him. any number of republicans went to him, you have to shift gears, change, be different. he has a very strong ego. he knows how well he did. giving them the trump act from state to state to state. but he didn't shift the gear in time for the general election. and he is paying a price for that in some of the states so but they have got to scramble to win tonight. >> to your point, he was on to something and in so many ways is remaking republican orthodoxy. here is a guy who is saying he is against, against the free trade agreements. where free traders were, that was an article of faith in the republican party. some of the foreign policy of the traditional republican party. he completely up-ends. so, it is because of some of those positions, he is opening up a path to rust belt states
flip side of it. what he did, i mean to nicole's point. it wasn't over before it started. this is a winnable race in the republican year, history is on the side of republicans. on the other hand when he had his first announcement speech, disparaged mexicans and kind of put the battle lines down. if we see in florida the hispanic vote goes up and that ends up being decisive, a lot of people will look and say, boy was that lost on the >> one of the early piece of this drama we will be watching what is happening in florida. want to get around to battleground states now where our correspondents are in ohio. which we as we know the polls close here a short while ago. too close to call. we have got -- nbc's chris jansing and jacob saberoth in pennsylvania. first to ohio and chris. providing the drama, as it always does, chris. >> boy, does it. i can tell you both campaigns
now. look, the heart of the rust belt you were just talking about this. the union workers who have been really responsive to donald trump's message. on the other hand i'm standing in cleveland, in cuyahoga county. a place where barack obama won twice overwhelmingly where the clinton folks were down at end of early voting now. they had hoped that there would be lines long enough to keep this place open after 7:30. but as you can see, the doors close. no one is here. there is some nervousnen and a lot of confidence, more so than, in other states. i am hearing front trump campaign. having said that, if they're able to pull it out, the clinton campaign, it is going to be about the ground game. today they did something really interesting. lester. they took 400 paid staffers out of the offices. put volunteers in. sent them out canvassing four times. they knocked on the door once. somebody wasn't home. they went back, a second time. they belief that ground game can
that's what they're holding on to. thinking there is a chance they could pull out ohio, lester. >> all right, chris, thank you. >> jacob in pennsylvania. not a coincidence the clinton folks ended in pennsylvania. and we know as watching florida it would be critical to a donald trump path. describe what you have been seeing on the ground, jacob? >> there is no doubt about it. as to the reason that the president and the secretary were here in philadelphia last night. there were 1686io divisions in the city of philadelphia, lester. perhaps this is the one with the longest lines in the entire city right now. this is the main polling location for temple university in north philadelphia. some of the young folks told me they have been in line, three, four hours. somebody came by and dropped by pizza for the students. the line snakes around this way. all the way around. through this area. and down under the overpass. down that way. i have to tell you, lester.
strategy to winning the area. with philadelphia. drive up the margins particularly amongst the young people you are seeing right now that have been waiting on this line for hours and hours and hours. they could potentially close the margins that donald trump is running up in the center of this state in the areas between pittsburgh, and philadelphia. we will be watching this. polls close. all the people on the line down to the overpass are more than likely, in fact, are certainly going to be let into this >> well they are well-fed. good to see. jacob, thank you. hallie jackson in the newsroom and a look at exit polling. hallie, fascinating stuff coming out of exit polls. what are you looking at? >> how people feel about the federal government? listen, people don't like the federal government according to early exit poll. 2/3 of folks are dissatisfied or angry. keep in mind this does not mean we are a nation of angry people. only 22% say they're actually mad at government. let's dive into that slice of
who are angry with government, an overwhelming majority of them, 75%, broke for donald trump according to this early data. donald trump has run a campaign trying to tap into that voter dissatisfaction. you are seeing some of that reflected in early numbers. want to switch gears and talk little bit about a key swing state, chuck brought up earlier in the night, north carolina and the gender gap. another theme we are following. take a look at this -- hillary clinton. of men, most of them went according to some of the early exit polls. but basically the flip of it. most women went for her. double-digit gender gap in north carolina. part of the reason the state is so close. potentially, reflection of what we have seen this entire campaign. >> all right, nicole, pouring through exit polling data on your own. going rogue, what are you seeing in there? >> so, savannah, matt were kind of enough to let me follow the mom vote this cycle. a year ago, i sent a note.
determine whether a republican can win back the white house, watch the mom vote. the last time it was done, was george w. bush in 2004 was able to tap into the security mom, some call them nascar moms. it is impossible for a republican to win the white house without narrowing the gender gap. what i am looking at so far, it does not look like, trump is on track to do that in enough swing states? >> going to go to the map here. going to show one of the counties that have the moms in it. in virginia. >> moms are everywhere. >> they are ev will -- >> my mom. >> quickly. loudon county. how loudon goes, so goes virginia. obama won virginia last time. won loudon. seven points. look at right now. we got a quarter of the vote in loudon. basically, you know, college educated, a pretty high income county. sort of the next suburb out of arlington and fairfax and northern virginia. and she is up by 16 points. essentially doubling.
pulling out of virginia. >> before the break, show me where we stand in virginia. too early with clinton leading. >> still early. not a ton of vote in here. here we go. show you here. here it is. so far most of the vote has come in from republican areas. you can see arlington. we have ? ? -- no vote at all. the strongest democric only, like i said, i showed that loudon, you brought up that. i was stunned that already she has a double digit lead out there. we still have more vet to come in. >> we need to got to a break. invite you to stay with us. more states. more calls. our panel. the man who helped orchestrate bill clinton's campaign to win the white house, james carville will join us. decision night in america continues right here on nbc.
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welcome back. democracy plaza here on election night. decision night in america. just keep in mind we are 15 minutes away from 8:00 eastern. we will see a slew of poll closings. 16 states plus the district of columbia. center, joining our panel is a guy who knows what it is look to help a clinton win the white house. james carville. hey, james. >> little nervous tonight. feeling good. >> where are the clinton nerves right now. looking at the same data we are looking at. >> i do know this, turnout in brow ward, fort lauderdale, dade, miami. city of philadelphia are all eye-popping. now what i don't know is what the turnout is in trump areas. i do know the turnout in the
boulder, colorado. college towns. i think the story at the end of this night if i guess is going to be the clinton ground game. the logistical thing that they put together in the amount of money that they did, these numbers are beyond anything like i think chuck or none of us, nicole, think right now. >> is that a gift? >> yeah, a lot of people. a trump gift too. had something to do with it too. >> funny you bring this up. yes, she ran against somebody who had no ground game. who did >> i understand. >> what would have happened if she had run against somebody with a ground game. you see what i mean? is this a very different election or not? >> when political scientists study this. we will ascertain what a ground game means. you're right. he has none. they have hundred of thousand of people. i think they said 3 million touches on saturday alone. but, i mean, you know, this is, some extent. you have to say this is democracy at work. people out knocking on doors. people standing in line. people bringing pizzas.
about this. >> james, if it works out the way you hope. she gets the presidency. the country is still badly fractured. >> absolutely. >> she is a known factor the everybody knows of her. on the other side they didn't like her very much. they're talking about a target rich opportunity in the congress of the united states. so what does she do right away if she wins. we don't know that. >> the one thing is. once she gets in office, much more popular. much more popular office holder than candidate. i think, that to do is acknowledge the fact that all of this trump voters, people, they have something to say. they want to be heard. and i think she has got, i think a lot of democrats say, you know these people are really hurting. they're trying to say something. you know, she should reach out, and say, you know, you were sending me a messagen't i heard that message. you came out. when i say we are stronger together. i hope she says when i say together i mean everybody. i don't mean to be just like. >> should she go to red states and listen? >> i think so.
i think before she is inaugurated. i would love to see her go to some parts that were, heavily, trump areas. sit and talk to people. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, i mean. >> i mean it. >> yeah, good place. >> it's not a -- not a bad idea. there are a lot of places she can go. i do think there are a lot of democrats that are like these are our people. this its why a lot of us became democrats. yes, we want to win the election but -- you know, these people are, they're screaming that they want to be heard about something. i think, you know, my guess is that, she gets it. i just really believe that. >> what are your thoughts on the comey factor? the polls didn't really detect anything. when you got to this notion of republicans coming home. there was, we had a ten day stretch there where all the bad news was pointed in her direction. >> right. it was. politics, have become so tribal.
i was very glad on sunday when i was talking to somebody on the phone. said my god look what happened. it had, robbie mook, it helped fund-raising a lot. they had started to see some declines before that. you don't know. but it might have motivated a lot of democrats. you don't know that for sure. >> i think you are right. i think we have to unpack this after the election. what it did t immeasurable. it changed donald trump. you can't tabulate that effect. >> he became focused. >> he became focused. described by sources close to him that it was like a thunderbolt. that it struck him for the first time in, in many weeks, or several weeks, that he could win this thing. he gave up his twitter. he read from a teleprompter. he did all that boring stuff that i talked about a couple of minutes ago. you can never, i mean, i think the polls are hard to decipher because this was a time in elections when peach party goes
said. but, you can never measure what the effect is of donald trump being disciplined for ten straight days. >> by the way, every tim he was disciplined for ten straight days there was a coinciding rise in the polls. >> exactly. >> disciplined for ten days. stuff he did on announcement day. the stuff he did, that gets back in the cake. that makes impressions that last on people. you know. ten days of discipline. going to help some. >> james, curious, what does bubba vote? i say this because bill clinton's map in 1992, these were his people. >> i -- i am very relctant to talk about conversationize have with president clinton. but he is not happy about it at all. i can assure you that it is a topic that, that gnaws on him. >> people in arkansas. >> some people he grew up with. >> some democrats say that look, our coalition is growing.
which is true. a lot of people in the coalition. >> i will interrupt you. we have got a call here in south carolina. nbc news projects when the votes are in, donald trump wins south carolina. chuck? >> not a huge surprise. it is the one state though in the southeast corner down there that hasn't moved into battleground territory the i can tell you there are a bunch of democrats there that think with time it could. >> look at, gon where things stand on the electoral count. the race to 270. 33 for trump. 3 for clinton. the night is still early. the map barely filled in. but there you have it right now. play the threes right now in the -- on your lotto numbers right now. see if it hits before 8:00. >> not encouraging that behavior. want to point that out. all right. we are staying with us. and minutes away from the 8:00 p.m.
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florida. the part that the polls are closing in, of course central time zone area there. i till you this. we have 71% in. clinton pulled the lead in statewide. here is your swing county of florida. as hillsboro goes in tampa. so goes the state of florida. she has a ten point lead here, you can see, still a lot of vot vot -- of vote in hillsboro. quickly show you the spread in mi miami-dade. 30-point spread. see if there is hispanic surge for her. looks like it so far. but this is just early vote. we don't know what election day voting is going. >> if this goes to clinton. a lot of eyes will lock on pennsylvania. >> becomes he has to win pennsylvania and michigan. if he loses florida. he need pennsylvania and michigan. can't just get away with one of them. >> this comes back to the same area of the country. move up from florida. >> her power center. really, really could be
talking to robbie mook earlier. florida, virginia, pennsylvania. he said that's their backbone to 270. they think they're going to within all three. they think once they do it is checkmate for donald trump. >> we have big ones again coming up. 16 states. district of columbia. grab a drink. grab a snack. hurry back to the tv. 8:00 p.m. poll closings, moments away. a lot of important states. florida, florida, florida, chuck said. our decision night in america
we are back on this decision night in america. it is 8:00 in the east. one of the biggest moments of the night as polls have just closed in a slew of states. 16 in all and district of columbia. let's t y florida, we have been watching that raw vote come in. right now too close to call in florida. pennsylvania. another big one. battleground state. too early to call. pennsylvania too early to call. new hampshire. too early to call. now we have hey bunch of states here in which there are projected winners starting with alabama. we project that donald trump wins alabama.
delaware, will also go to hillary clinton. district of columbia to hillary clinton. illinois, her home state goes to hillary clinton. as well as the state of maryland. and massachusetts also in the clinton column. mississippi, we projected donald trump wins in mississippi. new jersey, to clinton. oklahoma the projected winner donald trump. rhode island, hillary clinton. let's look at the count right now in the race to 270. at this hour, based on the projections, clinton stands with 75, trump with 66. 66 in the race to 270. now, a couple others we want to mention right now. we are watching -- maine. too early -- actually. looking at missouri up there. but too early. maine is too early. but, clinton is leading there in mississippi.
sorry. my bad there. missouri was too early. we got trump is leading there. the colors begin to fill in. the race to 270. savannah guthrie. watch big senate races. >> yeah, promise you a cliffhanger. the democrats are trying to wrest control. they have a pick up. one seat into their corner. they need four if hillary clinton wins. tammy duckwort senator from illinois. displace the incumbent. mark kirk, widely believed to be the most vulnerable in come come -- incumbent. tammy duckworth. wounded warrior. mark kirk one of thepub -- republicans to distance himself, after trump questioned impartiality of a judge that had mexican heritage. one of first. as we have seen in so many senate races.
the race tried to tie kirk to trump as much as possible. a deep blue state. the president's home state. so not a big shocker. but, if you are keeping score at home, we hope you are, the democrats have netted one. >> lot's bring in now -- our panel. james carville remains with us. we welcome in friend, hugh hewitt, host of the "hugh hewitt" show on salem radio network. >> i am happy senator portman is re-elected. a campaign built on civility, hard nosed politics, james did when he first within a state race in pennsylvania. educate the the country about the opioid epidemic, takes more lives than cash crashes do. love the fact that he has gone back. good signs out of indiana for todd young. that would mean two new war veterans in the senate. senator-elect duckworth and
combat veterans. >> good you brought that up. lost vietnam vets. gap with little military. >> jason kantur. >> tom cotton. >> dan sullivan. >> dan sullivan. now starting to see the new generation, tom. >> the fact is this generation -- very impressed with. because they have come back and they say we want to be involved in public life. they're doing it not just by running for office. but they have got all kinds of foundations going on. they're running off to south america, africa, got any projects going there. they were trained so well in the military. they came back. they wanted to use the skill that they were trained with there. and my own hope is that we can expand that for young people, the same kind of military training that they get, you can do in public service and other ways as well. and give them something to shoot for. the millenials are going to be the fastest growing, most educate the. most entrepreneurial generation we have ever had in this country. and we don't want them on outside looking in. we got to get them into the system in some way.
actually. interru interrupt. kellyann conway. great to see you. >> hi, lester. >> tell me what it is like. you have done everything you can do. now you like the rest of the country are waiting. what is it like? what are you seeing in the numbers so far? >> high energy here. i just was with mr. trump on my way down here. he is watching the returns. and we have a whole digital and data war room, not atypical. we are getting many different inputs from all across the country. trying to piece together our fact that we have kept this race very competitive with a political veteran who many advantages and a ton more money than we do. and i just think that the movement that donald trump has built has been able to grow the party in a very different way, be more pro worker, little less elitist. frankly a part that really represents change and not the status quo, we haven't always been able to claim that mantel. >> you said florida is a must
we have it too close to call. but clinton with a 49-48 lead. what are you seeing in the number does it worry you? is there a path without florida? >> we have seen the same thing with our internal polling in florida, lester, we never had donald trump or hillary clinton at 50% in any of the polls. that's happening. not because the other party candidates were growing their electoral vote. they weren't. their vote share was actually stein or gary johnson in most states. it is really just how divided the country and the states are. florida is always a very tight, even in, in the year 2000, all came done to florida. when you look back, george w. bush had been the nominee for a couple year. cleared the field for him. he had the entire republican infrastructure behind him. all the elected officials. his brother was the governor of the state. he within by 527 votes. went all the way to the supreme
we are hopeful as the the panhandle, closes they vote a whole extra hour because they're an hour behind time zone wise. that we will be able to catch up with her. hillary clinton thanked a big early vote in florida. but we saw that, mitt romney was losing early vote in florida by 167,000 votes or so. we cut that number almost in half to about 88,000. >> do you envy her ground game? >> i don i would say they have a sophisticated ground game. running for president for eight years sense she lost last time. one could argue she should have put us away a long time ago. you have the ground game, all the money, all the king's horses, all the king's men, all the current sitting president who is incredibly popular and first lady incredibly popular, a former president who is popular just happens to be your husband, lots of celebrities.
-- reluctance, to go there with hillary clinton, who says if i am one of 70% of americans who want change, take in a different direction, how can i vote for hillary clinton? are has been a great reluctance. >> we have a call in the senate race. marco rubio, projected winner in florida. what do you take from that? >> i think that's terrific. a great senator. and, florida is looky to have him. he would work very well with president donald trump. race. and i am very happy that floridians put him over the top. >> kellyann. this is chuck. interesting to seat performance between donald trump and marco rubio in florida. basically overperforming you by three points. a good 150,000 votes more than donald trump. was rubio a help to you? is this a case where -- you're
the finish line in florida? or how do you read it? >> well a great ticket to have trump rubio on the same ticket. ill tells people that they're two people who want to improve upon obamacare, they're two people who want to defeat radical terrorism, create economic growth, more jobs. and they're very similar in many ways. certainly policywise. we would hope, perhaps he can help us. i do, i back to an earlier point though, chuck, too. there are senate races, particularly governor races to of the candidates in the states. hasn't been a lot of talk about that. talk about the reverse many time. in the four states that have governor races in the last polls we were ahead of republican gubernatorial candidates. we look to think we are helping some of those. >> kellyann. great to have you on. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> katie tur at trump headquarters in new york. katie, what do you have? >> hey there, lester. spoke with a gop source in ohio, high level source tells me they believe it is going to go down
but they do have a bit of good news. they believe that donald trump didn't come in with such a deficit the way romney did in early voting. they believe that he could potentially make good numbers up in two counties. west ohio and -- the clinton team on the other hand, is also feeling quite good about the state. a state that donald trump visited 26 times. a state that he was leading with many, many of the polls to say that they started to feel very confident in. but now the clinton campaign is saying that they are they're optimistic. they're saying that no one wins in ohio. without putting in the work. without a ground game. i spoke to my gop source. asked them. what sort of ground game did donald trump have in addition to the rnc. the trump campaign heavily relying on the rnc ground game effort. the source said, i have no idea. again a race that is very, very, very close. and that gop source believes it could go, so late into the
went be able to make a call tonight. maybe well into tomorrow as well. lester. >> all right. right now we have it down as too close to call. katie tur. thank you very much. talk about it if you can. republicans coming home you. were one that a few weeks ago you were calling for donald trump to leave the race. what transpired? >> well he didn't. i wanted him to withdraw. i think mike pence would have won easily tonight. he didn't. i voted for him. he is running. wracking up states on the electoral college map that go down in history. never thought he had a prayer of getting nomination. never thought we would be talking about this tonight. he changed the issue set in the race. but he is running behind the senators. i want to go back to that. significant where there are portman is a lot ahead of him in ohio. rubio is called. put florida away. and, and todd young is probably doing better in indiana. mike pence. if dr. joe heck gets the same bump over donald trump in nevada
next senator, dr. general joe heck in nevada. >> going to say interestingly enough. rob portman thought at the beginning that trump would help him. down in that corner of ohio. appalachia, comes together with west virginia and kentucky. and in the end, then, portman was helping pull trump. >> consider this, guys. there may be a presidential, somebody who ran for the presidential nomination who will be giving the victory speech tonight. marco rubio. president this cycle. >> the senate, getting back into the race as well. may have saved the senate for the republicans. >> little marco as he was called by the man who is at the top of the ticket. and, so it is sweet revenge for him. >> president obama went to florida. shamed marco rubio by name. how do you call some one in the primary, a con artist, and say you are supporting him. the direct quote from the president, come of on, man. marco rubio prevails.
have coat tails for donald trump at the top of the ticket. >> we have seen nothing surprising or nothing significant in projections. i think that will change in an hour. i advise people to stick around. going to be different an hour from now. right now everything that we have seen is not surprising, imminently predictable. >> stay with us. a lot going on. we'll check in. very interesting exit polls you will want to see our decision night in america coverage continues here on nbc. pizzas to fran but not for the president. for you! you can be president of whatever you want. like president of your own salon... i look good. or your kid's little league team...foul ball! or president of whatever this is! get the domains, websites, and 24/7 personal support to be awesome online. get your dot com domain at godaddy dot com.
states tomorrow morning. half of americans are going to wake up with really deep concerns about the candidate. take a look. people who voted for hillary clinton. 20% of them voted for her, because they didn't like donald trump. that's twice what we saw back in 2012. same goes and even more extreme for, donald trump voters. nearly 30% of them voted for donald trump because they didn't like hillary clinton. that's three times what we saw in 2012. so, call vote if you will. somebody casting their ballot, but holding their nose and doing it. talk about a couple key swing states. talking about all night. the first one, florida. here's the breakdown so far, remember these are the early exit polls. of hispanic voters. see they're breaking more for hillary clinton. she is outperforming where barack obama was back in 2012. donald trump underperforming where mitt romney was. last take a peek at ohio. specifically union voters. what we are seeing from the
donald trump easy message on trade, on the economy seems to be resonating. we see that here. back in 2012, more union households voted for the democrat, but, donald trump has reversed that trend in ohio. he actually is appealing to more union voters about half of them. he is outperforming hillary clinton by 6% points there. interesting stuff given donald trump's message throughout much of the campaign was aimed at working class voters. lester. >> going to get right on to the campaign kristen welker, hillary clinton headquarters here at the javits senator. >> secretary clinton fighting to make history tonight. watching returns with her family at a hotel in new york. top campaign officials telling me they're feeling confident heading into tonight. feeling good about a robust ground game they have built up. one official telling me they have knocked on 2 million doors today alone. they also feel good about the way that secretary clinton ended
it on the exact note that she was hoping to. arguing that she will be a unifying force if she elected. and talking about why she will be the most qualified president despite all the divisive rhetoric and e-mail controversy which dogged her until the end. the states that they're watching closely. michigan reliably blue state. donald trump making a serious play. north carolina of course florida. she is preparing two speeches tonight but hoping she will deliver a victory speech. lester. >> headquarters at the hilton down the block. what are you seeing there, peter? >> lester, good evening. i spoke to a top source close to donald trump. feeling good. touting epic numbers. turnout specifically in white republican counties in states like michigan and new hampshire right now. this source close to donald trump is now predicting victories in states like ohio, iowa, north carolina, new hampshire, and the second district of maine. gives you a sense of the real confidence they have right now.
turnout in michigan and north carolina they think will have a benefit. the bottom line this source says right now is i am going to be realistic. you have got to be lucky. this race is certainly going to be a lot closer than most americans may have thought. lester. >> peter, thank you. chuck, over to the map here. >> look, the turnout, the fact is everybody has higher turnout. i want to give you an example of how trump territory is turning out in much bigger numbers. i want to tell you the story here in up here. mitt romney won the county by eight points. you see here the total vote over there. going to show you here. total vote here, you can see. you know, about 87,000 total on this. now, let me take you to 2016. map here. trump is winning by a whopping 29 points. there is more vote. that is good news. that is a big deal.
>> he increased the number overall. and getting 30% more of 10,000 new voters. take you to miami-dade. 80% in. they're still 20% of the vote. add this up, you have, basically a million votes right now. in miami-dade. they didn't top 800, didn't top 900,000 during barack obama. she is winning by 30 points. barack obama won it by 24. point is good news for both of them. their bases are up voters. he is winning big among a smaller group. >> obsession with florida on election night continues. >> we need to get to a break. take a quick break. lot more coverage. race to 270 electoral votes under way. our decision night in america coverage continues here on nbc. see me. see me.
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we have got poll closings in another 7:30 or so. as we look at the map there on, on arkansas. will be the next poll closing. look at the map there. i want to talk briefly if i can, savannah, chuck, about every four years we are confronted with the way we elect presidents, this electoral college. the 270 number. florida put it in our face. and we always visit the idea.
that doesn't make it any less odd. for a lot of people watching the election and shows like ours. they're hearing about national polls. that's not how we elect a president in this country. as we learn distinctly in 2000. win the popular vote but not win the electoral college. so basically, our founders set it up. that each state has a certain amount of electoral votes. it's based on population. you have got to reach that magic number of 270. >> why you may not have seen candidates come to your state? >> it there is a bug in the system. you have an even number of electors, you can win in a tie. way too easy to win in a tie. ridiculous to create a constitutional crisis under that. >> lester don't get chuck started on the electoral college. >> used to be a big defender of it. i will tell you this. go explain it to somebody overseas. and when you no longer, the great american democracy, you can't tell them it is one person, one vote. it is like, well, it is, let me. you are just like by the time you are explaining what have i
your own voting system to somebody overseas, maybe you need a new one. >> the playing field we have, right, james? >> look. it may not be the system we want. but the system we got. that's what we are going to have tonight. going to go through with it. >> that's huh we roll as we say. stay with us. polls about to close in the state of arkansas. bill clinton served as governor before winning the white house himself. we'll have that and more on decision night in america
we are back with more coverage. representatives. nbc news projects that republicans will retain control of the house of representatives. now quickly take you outside. where we have got a call from the state of arkansas. and as we move up the building, nbc news projects that donald trump will win in the state of arkansas. of course the state that hillary clinton was for many, many years the first lady. we're back with our panel right now. and, chuck, you are going
>> he is -- you can tell. >> that's right. >> she worked in florida before she worked for president bush. back in, back in the day when we were both young bucks. we were just both sitting here, what's out in florida. 91% in. i think trump is leading by 60,000 votes. and -- we're both noting, like why is the clinton campaign feeling good, and trump not feelgo gainesville has then't come in. college town. you have a lot half of the broward vote hasn't come in. half of palm beach. and 15% of miami-dade. and as we showed you, she is winning miami-dade by numbers that are landslide like for miami-dade. >> why do we care so much about florida? because for trump it is a, close to a must win as there is. it's not that he can't put together 270 votes without florida. becomes exceedingly difficult.
>> ptsd. look at tom. i can't go there. >> talking about. >> you have seen the movie. >> florida, florida, florida. at one point. bill dalien one ear, karl rove in the other ear on the phone saying what is going on. if you don't know. how do i know? >> back to 2000. >> florida, florida, florida. the late tim russert, miss on nights like this. >> could be. >> the bigger story is both, both bases came out. you know, the fact is everything came out. it just may base. >> and just a record keep now. ohio too close to call. florida, too close to call. pennsylvania too early to call. so those are big ones hanging out there right now. we want to go to andrea mitchell. hillary clinton headquarters here in new york. are they -- are they feeding into any of this. watching these numbers, the way we are? >> you can imagine how much they're watching it. boiler room, war room, looking over at peninsula hotel. few blocks from here.
they will be delivering. two versions as we said. one is a victory speech. and the so speech writers were in, in the hotel. with both bill and hillary imagine having both editing your speech. now the speech writers are going back to work making some changes. so we have all been edited by editors and producers. pretty high powered team of bill and hillary clinton editing. the thing to report is that my democratic sources, this is not campaign sources, these are michigan telling me, they're getting a little nervous in michigan. because the democratic areas of detroit and flint are not showing the kind of vote that they had wanted to see. obviously early. but raining. they're a little worried about this michigan could be tight. as you know. both hillary clinton and donald trump were there yesterday. it would be far more important for donald trump's path, his, he really wants to flip a blue state. not critical for clinton. but of, still like to win
surprising upset by bernie sander, trader to a big factor there against clinton and for trump. lester. >> andrea. thank you. joining us from clinton headquarters, former michigan governor, jennifer granholm. great to have you on. >> great to be on. >> watched you on msnbc, earlier today, you couldn't wipe the smile off your face. >> i know, it is democracy. >> earlier now, you are starting to see raw vote totals, watching florida, how is your level and right now? >> i think we feel really good. because as chuck was saying, there are still huge sectors of electorate that have not come in. a lot of that, are our people, whether it is broward county, or, you know in michigan. as you know in many of these states. that we count on. a lot of the urban areas come in later than the rural areas. so we are feeling really good still. >> all right. now, we talked about florida being a must win.
folks. but without it he may, made you defend pennsylvania. look where the clinton campaign ended yesterday. how do you feel about pennsylvania? >> good about pennsylvania. in fact, we think -- between pennsylvania and virginia, and north carolina. again, it is still early. you have got to see the rest come in. we are feeling really good about the ground game we have what we are hearing on the ground. anecdotally, and in the numbers. we know what is out there the everybody just take, on my side, take a deep breath. it is going to be okay. and by the way, can we not all just celebrate that it is record turnout in democracy. people really love this country and care about it. >> come on something has to be making you nervous right now, what is it? >> michigan always makes me nervous. because that's my, that's my state. and i am concerned about the numbers in detroit and flint.
is made up for by the very large, for exam pull, arab-american community that is in michigan and deerborn. president clinton visited. there is huge turnout in that community. if there is a diminution in votes in detroit, we have made up for it, i think with the votes in the arab-american community, the latino community, and frankly we had banked, 50,000 of the absentee votes. so we still, i mean, still close. closer than be. but i feel very good about michigan anyway. still makes me nervous though. >> governor, always good to talk to you. >> until it is in. >> thank you for joining us. savannah, senate call here. >> state of indiana, deep red. republican hold for the senate. we have congressman young todd young going to the senate, evan bayh, former senator from indiana, vying to got his seat back. what an interesting story. because, this is -- a case where
a battle ground. for a moment it seemed it might be. because of the strength of evan bayh's connection to the state of indiana. lot of democrats were excited. hey, maybe make this competitive. >> -- an outsider? >> too much of an insider. way too much insider. somebody who lost his indiana roots. somebody who barely had an address in indiana. >> couldn't remember the correct address. got a court avenue confused. >> deep indiana roots. it wasn't enough. so we see that indiana hold. that's a doesn't alter our ultimate senate map. we have one democratic pickup on the record i believe. so far. but one of the races we were closely watching, it had potential to be competitive. >> interesting thing about, young/bayh, got whipsawed by his prior job. working for the u.s. chamber of commerce. came out against him. been away a while. assumed he would go back. >> he is a democrat from another era. >> okay. a centrist democrat that just
trump is unpopular, maybe i can sneak back into the senate." >> never forget when he left the senate he, he penned this op-ed. you and i were covering the white house then if i don't love congress. i think there are better ways to serve. here in 2016. trying to get back in. no dice. >> no dice. >> mentioned karl rove. this is don rumsfeld's known/unknown. republicans hearing from all over the country. fearing cheered by ballot races. >> hallie jackson and exit polling and what women voters are saying. hallie something we continue to focus on in the race. >> lester, started talking, a year and three month as go. the first primary debate for republicans. the first question to donald trump about his comments about women. here on election night. take a look. 51% of voters across the country are bothered a lot by donald
purple section of the pie when we dive into how this breaks out. of those voters who say they were bothered a lot, look at how it breaks down. eight in ten say they voted for hillary clinton over donald trump. not particularly surprising when you look at the fact that they say they're bothered by women. certainly notable that hillary clinton made her closing argument, part of it on trump's treatment of women. and for these voter, lester that is something that has resonated. >> i want to continue on what you are talking about. kate snow joins prussia, pennsylvania. talking with women voters. kate. >> hi, lester. we are in the collar counties outside of philadelphia. the suburban county. outside of philly. and these counties since 1976, have really predicted the way the state of pennsylvania will, will go. so that's why we are here. we got a lot of trump supporters here. behind me. wanted to talk to a few women over here. all hillary clinton supporters.
jennifer, you voted republican until recently. today you voted for hillary clinton. >> definitely. >> why? >> because she is -- knowledge bum. the most qualified canned date running for office. and i agree with a lot of things she stands for. >> we were talking about the exit polling. a lot of it is showing that women, many women were turned off by donald trump. is that part of what, what motivated your vote? >> definitely. i think that the derogatory things he said, and to the media, have been like repulsive. and also, reproductive rights are important to me. sheila and vicky, wearing white and lace, what's that about? >> callout to the suffragettes who called for the original women's votes. such an historic day having a female candidate for a major party. we wanted to kind of recognize that. >> if she wins tonight, you told me you are in your 30s. you are millenials. what does that mean for you if hillary clinton pulling this
event. i've will be so impressed if she wins and so happy. because of what i value. and, she really -- you know, epitomizes that and can speak well on that. just an incredible candidate. >> thank you guys so much for sharing a little bit. appreciate it. you know, lester the thing is, as i said, these counties really can be important in the way that pennsylvania goes. we're checking in with all the offices here in terms of the four counties. turn out does seem to be pretty high according to both the democrats that i talked to and the republicans that i have talked to. ta l county, chair of the democratic party who thinks they're going to be counting votes here for a long time. after the official poll closing. polls closed here at 8:00. they think there are people in line, lester. they may be at it until late, late tonight. >> yeah, suspect so. kate snow. thanks again. pennsylvania. too early to call. we'll take a quick break. check in with more of our
things stand as we await states. >> a little bit. we need to remind people here, virginia, we moved too close to call. now, the numbers have been creeping up. still a lot of northern virginia vote still to go. as you know, loudon, as loudon goes, so goes things. that's the good news for clinton. but as we told you, and i want to make sure see if i get campbell county here just right. get this just right. this would do well with evangelicals. the numbers are big for trump in trump territory too. those two. nicole you were sharing with me. steve shales who ran florida for obama in '08 and '12. everybody's vote totals have been shattered in the state of florida. record turnout in florida in the red county and in the blue counties. now we'll see how this balances out. explains why, we are seeing, some of the battleground states. virginia was something that a
he is doing well in trump country. >> all waiting with badd breath for when polls close in michigan. clinton folks were rushed in to defend what they felt was a sizable lead. kevin tibbles, a trump watch party in grand rapids. how are they feeling tonight? >> listening to you, lester, talking about how michigan all of a sudden seems to come into play here. which is where grand rapids is, you are right that hillary clinton campaign had to come in here yesterday. but of course, being a gop rally here this evening, they were all out after midnight last night. because donald trump made one of his final stops here. grand rapids all of a sudden is on the map with regards to this election campaign, lester. they were also listening to the fact that, in the democratic
was not very good. while here in western michigan, which there are very strong republican pockets, like the one i am speaking to you from, they're saying the lines were down the street when they got there this morning. they are very sort of encouraged by what they -- say, they saw on the streets here in michigan today, lester. >> all right, stay in the middle east -- middle east? the midwest. kevin, thank you very much. kelly o'donnell. paul ryan'sea jamesville, wisconsin. midwest. hey, kelly. >> good evening, lester. this is unusual. house speaker, paul ryan is in the room here. he is over my left shoulder milling about with some of the guest whose have come to his headquarters tonight. for paul ryan, really a three-level night. his own house race which he expects to win easily, kind of a position for the future of the party. will he be and continue to be the highest ranking republican in elected office. of course, if donald trump were
and what happens next for the congressional majority? it is expected the house will hold its majority. what will happen on the senate side. and how will congress have a partnership with the new president whomever that is. but it is a bit unusual. i guess it is a since of how paul ryan expects his own personal night as a candidate to go. he is here in the room. greeting supporters. hugs directly behind me. talking with folks who have been a part of his life here in jamesville. i am told early this evening. reflect on his own race. not wait for the whole night to resolve itself. he'll have plenty to say about all that in the next few days. lester. >> paul ryan. and what his future is like. no matter how the thing shakes out tonight. >> nobody gramled more publicly or painfully with their endorsement of donald trump than speaker ryan. people who were long-time, paul ryan, staffers and advisers and
'12, romney ticket, remained advisers hoped he would take a stand against a nominee many establishment republicans thought stood for everything that paul ryan had worked for. paul ryan is one of the architects of modern conservative policymaking. he is an expert on the intricacies of budget making and conservative solutions for education and poverty. whatever you think of the idea, he is one of the chief ar thinkers group. when he endorsed donald trump it was a set back to the never trump wing of the gop, which at that point had unrealistic expectations. he has the job of being the top wrangler and the gop caucus was pro trump. reality he is dealing with whether trump wins or loses. a lot of rumors, just rumors, sort of an undercurrent, additional anxiety for all of us
little bit of jeopardy in terms -- >> another thing. especially the other thing about speaker ryan is that he has not given up his own presidential aspirations. that had to be a conflict in his mind. play the part of leader of the house republicans, try to keep that intact. same time, keep his eye on the far horizon. if trump does go down, then he is obviously going to be the front-runner. if trump wins tonight, would we still believe there is a possibility that he could do that. then, paul ryan has got a handful of trouble. not just with the people who are in the house with him. but with the new president of the united states. as well. >> don't you think he has trouble no matter who wins tonight. >> no win proposition. >> it is. if trump loses there will be a lot of people who look hard at paul ryan and other establishment republicans, saying where were you if you had been more enthusiastic for our nominee maybe we would be having a different result tonight. >> paul ryan maybe has the worst job in washington.
>> we are going to take a break. a lot coming up. in a moment take a lay of the land. where does the map stand? which states are still in play? which poll closings are upcoming. stay with us our decision night in america coverage continues here on nbc. [vo] wells fargo is making changes to make things right. first, all customers who have been impacted will be fully refunded. second, a confirmation will be sent when new personal or small business checking, savings or credit card accounts are opened. for our retail bankers to ensure your interests are put first. we're taking action.
jolene kent out on democracy plaza. a pretty sizable crowd now, watching our coverage, watching these numbers come in. jolene. >> lester, that's right. out here on democracy plaza, where situation here is very electric. i want to take you through the crowd here. show you some of the voters. we have a lot of clinton voters over here. we have trump supporters behind us. what we find is about, 50% of this country, 60% of this country believe that this country will be wake up tomorrow. and so, this is an area. oh, oh no. we have got a voter from arkansas as well. lester, what we want to till you is, yeah, right here. okay. so here in democracy plaza. a lot of action. a lot of voters from all over the country here. and we'll send it back to you in studio. >> jolene. thank you. if you are in the neighborhood come on down.
be careful when you walk. we mentioned this coming hour -- arizona, new mexico. still watching florida. >> want to show you really quick. florida. less than 100%. 100,000 votes. georgia don't have a lot of vote in. north carolina, you can see here, clinton narrowly ahead. still a lot in. and virginia too close to call. wow. the backbone states of the battleground are all too close. >> help you didn't make a dinner reservation. going to be here a while. >> ]. fast. >> polls about to close, minutes from now. a lot of news to got to.
we are back now from our election center here at 30 rock in r new york city. it's or9:00 in the east, 6:00 i the west. polls have just closed in 14 more states. take a deep breath nbc news projects hillary clintonct will win in her home state of new york. and now we have a slew of trump calls starting with texas. trump is thes. projected winner. in kansas, trump wins. louisiana, trump is the projected winner. nebraska, donald trump. we project that north dakota will go to donald trump as well as south dakota and wyoming, all
race to 270. here's where they stand. donald trump at 137 electoral votes. 104, based nton with on those b projections. some other places we're watching, michigan, we've talked about how close things are, too close to call right now. arizona, another important state where clinton has made some ground up, too early to call. colorado, too early. minnesota, right now we have it listed as too close. moving over to now, too early but clinton leads in new mexico. andco finally, wisconsin, wheree visited in the last half hour, it's too early to call. take a look again now at florida. florida is too close to call. look at the. numbers there. very, very close. a differenceos of roughly 140,0 votes. >> we will not call this before tonight. >> you think florida will keep us from --
because the margin, it's so ridiculously tight that it's sort of emblematic of the battleground states right now. >> 2700 votes. >> 2700 votes there in ohio. still a lot of vote out there but 37% reporting. iin feel that that 2700 tells y, virginia, which we'll be here a while, north carolina -- >> let's look at north carolina. all right. 3700-vote difference right there in north li votes cast so far. >> the bottom line is, turnout has been shattered on both basis. we've been telling you this. blue counties, red counties. >> and there's the red and blue states as they stand right now based on the projections. joining our panel is eugene robinson, political analyst with "the washington post." what do you want to say about all ofy this? >> ?gee, what can you say?
while. >> we have talked soo much in te last several weeks, the last several months that the polls have been relatively stable in all of this. > the polls were relatively stable thatel showed hillary clinton with a lead but a slim lead and things could break either way and what we're seeing tonight is what we've been talking about all year, how divided the country is, how acrimonious may not be the right word but it's close. this >> those are the states that trump hast won so far. >> to the extent to which it was a base election and now we see both bases totally mobilized. >> we use that word split but you're talking about people seeing throughe an entirely different set of lens. i mean, we covered the political conventions and we heard two just incredibly different visions of this country. >> you know, i had a really
days ago where he said, you know, it's funny, we never are in the same place even when we're in the same state, meaning the clinton people and he goes, i've never been in a race where there's one voter they are fighting over. >> exactly. >> it was not that. they were fighting between voters whoht were thinking abou voting and not voting. that's what we're seeing here, is sort of a balance by extreme. >> but that's the difference between where d the traditional battleground was. i mean, everything you learned in politics is, okay, primaries you're going for the base but in the middle it's the swing voters and we're all trying to persuade the same people and this didn't just start with thisus year but it's really about turning out your base, getting the most number of people who support you to these polls. and just to do polls 101, yes, we've seen remarkable consistency in the poll and, chuck, back me up here, one thing polls o need to do is mak ane educated guess about who wil actually show up and that's the
we've said this all along -- it's a country that's not deeply in love with d either one of the candidates so they were moving back and forth a lot, especially in the last week or so, we saw hillary clinton way out in the polls and then comey makes his original announcement, he goes down, and then he makes the announcement on sunday and she seems to be making a comeback in the last 48 hours and then as we're seeing tonight, something that looks to be very tight as we go deeper into the hours and a lot of people thought that we manifestation of the country saying it's got to be one or the other, i'mo not sure it's goin to make a big difference to me. they are theirme core groups. donald trump has his passionate supporters. so doess she. the bulk of the country is still angry and the big issue for most americans is change, shake it up, how are we going to change this country to get itng workin again and neither one of them has been able to deliver on that
now. kerry sanders is and things are tight there, kerry. >> reporter: they are really hanging on to the edge here. we're here at the darren soto election headquarters and he turns out to be the first puerto rican-american elected, a lot of have since w moved to the unite states. for those looking at the different hispanic groups who may have influence today, remember, puerto ricans are born with a u.s. b pass board, they comehe to the united states, if they decide to live here, they can register to revote. it turns out that there's been a swell of a hispanic votes in th state. it's too close, as you know, to call whether this is going to be a donald trump victory or a hillary clinton victory but the folks that i spoke to here just a short time ago said that they
of happiness if hillary clinton wins in this state or they'll be crying tears of sadness if donald trump i wins. that's just a snapshot in one room in florida but a lot of people hanging on the edge right now. as chuck todd said, it's going to be ang long night before we know which way florida's going. >> i'm looking at the map right now and 92% is in. chuck is at that map right now. where are the remaining votes going to comes right now,. if you're the clintn people, you're very happy about broward county. there still appears right now this isow only early vote that essentially was dumped in. we expect about another 400,000 out of there. if she wins that by 40 points the way she's winning its here,i don't know if that quite makes up the gap. there is some miami-dade vote. not a lot.t. this has already shattered records here. there's still another 10% of the vote out.
in miami-dade county than we saw before. let me take you to hillsborough. this hasgh tightened up. it's clinton plus six. obamasi won it by a point. so this is something here to keep an eye on. soon look, there's a chunk of ve down here in south florida. but there's still a lot of trump country. we're sitting here and it's so -- you can't sit here and say for sure, look, it's about i think she can get 100 out of it out of south florida. can she find another 36,000 somewhere else? we'llwh see. let me take you, by the way, to virginia. this is going to look very familiar to folks because we essentially have 68%. if you followed the virginia governor's race or obama/romney, she's closing the gap as the vote a totals come in. this is the big one.
of the vote still to come80 in. it's going to be a big clinton county. this iss likely enough to put hr over the top but i can tell you this, we've been here before, brokaw brought up jim webb to me. it took until fairfax county until jim webb won the race and fairfax was counted until mcauliffe won. the pointwo is, until we see northern virginia vote, that is why this thing -- and i tell back smack in the battleground and those bigtl leads were essentially a myth. >> andrea mitchell is at hillary clinton'sil headquarters here i new york where the crowd is certainly taking this in. there's been a lot of confidence at the clinton camp but there's got to be fingernail biting right now. >> reporter: you're right. terryt. mcauliffe is the govern
running mate. they actually took money out of virginia, advertising. they were that solid,ad they thought, in virginia. this is going to be as close as it looks like it's going to be, that's not good news for them. broward county is their big hope. i was just talking to a top clinton official here who said we are s still waiting on browa, there's more votebr to come in t florida is obviously that close. north carolina, they did get a break in t in durham county extended voting hours when there wasg some votig problems there. that's part of the research triangle where they knew they had a t solid vote to come in. still hoping on north carolina. michigan is making then nervous, not getting the vote out of flint. this thing is getting so close. you justlo showed the numbers i ohio as well. all of the information at your fingertips, you reported
nebraska for trump and i checked. that's four out of five congressional districts. warren buffett mades. a promiseo hillary clinton when he endorsed her. he said, i am going to deliver omaha because nebraska is like maine where two congressional districts are counted separately. he said he's going to go door to door today in omaha turning out the vote. i wante to know what happened with omaha. is it going clinton or too close to c call? >> andrea, as you cannu we go back to michigan? is it a double-digit difference here? 71. 7171 difference.er and that's 12% in. 16 electoral votes at stake in michigan. the trump folks forcing the clinton folks to try to defend michigan and it's going to provide a certain amount of drama. katy tur, before i go to you, i want to bring in ohio. the word is. ohio is going to b crazy close and that's what it
the difference of 162,000. katy has been covering the trump campaign from the very start and joins us now. what's the feeling inw. the roo? >> reporter: well, the feeling in the roomhe is obviously very exciting, as you can see behind me. the feeling atd trump headquarters and trump tower is very upbeat. they believe the longer this night t draws out, the better i is for them. you were talking about a few states that they've been paying close attention to. virginia, interestingly, for it to b pulled out their efforts about three weeks ago and if you can hear me y better with the stick mike, pulled out their efforts from virginia three weeks ago. if it's close there, they are certainly going to feel good about that. ohio they put a lot of focus on. the gop believes it's going to be down to the wire in ohio. potentially they say they won't be able to call until tomorrow. but also michigan. that's the state that the trump campaign is really looking to after they get to their core four. that's's florida, north carolin
going to look towardshe michiga. it's a state that they've been to 13 times since the convention. three times in this last weekend alone. it's where donald trump essentially ended his campaign.n he took the stage there at 12:30 this morning to a packed room of thousands of people that were stille streaming in as donald trump arrived. he left a little bit after 1:00. they believe that his job's message is going to cut across all demographics in michigan. they believe, chalso, that t going v to turn out for hillary clinton in the same way that it turned out for barack obama. and they are saying to me that they have seen record turnout in a couple ofn towns in gop counties. they are pointing to that as a very good sign. they also are believing that there is flat turnout in flint, michigan. so the camp -- the trump camp is feeling quite upbeat now. they are n cautiously optimisti but feel that they have a chance
let's go to ohio. chris jansing is in cleveland watching that very tight race. chris? >> reporter: yeah. and both sides are very nervous, i can tell you this right now, and both feeling like they have an opportunity here. if you're going to watch what's going on,t' you've got to look where i'm standing, which is in cleveland. i spent the day at a polling place p there. it was very telling. there was a burst around lunchtime but in the morning when you would expect a lot of people, later in the day when you'd expect a folks go home from work, there was not a big turnout. the director of the elections board e here in cuyahoga county said i still think we'll get up around 67% but the reports that were coming in weren't that there were't lines, weren't tha there was any big last-minute rush and i will tell you, one thing to look o at from the exi polls is the economy. very important to people here in the rustbelt and who is better at handling it. donald trump beating hillary
four points. i want bfo to tell you one anecl story as i was speaking with folks in this largely african-american voting place. iac said, are most of your fries andds family voting? and more than half in this unscientific survey said to me they knew people who weren't voting and i thought it might be about the tenor of the race. they saidra it wasn't that at a. they felt as african-americans that theca resurgence in the economy had not impacted them, that they by washington. so watch this vote coming in in cuyahoga county and that reaction in an unexpected place. >> chrisex jansing, thanks. when we come back, we'll talk with senator rand paul who nbcho projects has been re-elecd in kentucky. our election night continues
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welcome back, decision night in america. look at the map. those are the battleground states. if i had to title this, there's a reason they call this the battleground states. >> they sure are. michigan, less than a thousand votes. virginia, basically we're looking at 3 percentage points and climbing. florida, less than a percentage point. ohio, now watch, let me take you to new hampshire. th point. a difference there. let me take you down to north carolina. look at this one. we got about 20,000 votes out of more than 3 million cast. i'll take you back to florida one more time, as you can see, where, again, still waiting mostly for broward county. as soon as that gets in, we're going to feel comfortable going one way or another but it will take a long time. colorado, i want to show you
difference. only 32% in. she's winning but not by big numbers. a lot of people thought colorado like virginia was somehow going to end up being out of the battleground. >> savannah, either side can feel -- it's suspended animation. >> i think there's real jitters setting in at the clinton headquarters and hope on the trump side. if you look at colorado and virginia, these are battlegrounds and y august the clinton campaign stopped really spending money in feeling like these were in the bag and when you look at polls recently from these states, they showed clinton with a healthy lead and look where we are right now. i mean, of course everything -- the caveats are there. we're waiting for some northern virginia counties that would be expected to go for clinton big and that may make all of the difference but i think what's incredible here is just how tight all of these races are. >> we're going to take a break and check in on all of the races
hallie? >> lester, we're here in the middle of our election center talking with our political unit and specifically talking with our pollsters. you look ready for me here. bill is one of our folks. bill, when we talk about this being a nail biter, what are you seeing in these places where it's too close to call? how much of a nail biter is it? >> it certainly is in a number of states and the reason is simple. we've seen somef divisions between urban america and rural america. donald trump is winning white college men in a margin we haven't seen since ronald reagan and hillary clinton is winning african-americans and latinos. there's two different americas and we're watching them fight each other to a draw in a few of these states in ways that, again, reflects enormous division, much bigger than we've normally seen. >> fred, turn around here in your chair. you're seeing the same data that
divided the nation is? are we in for a night that's going to go past 3:00 a.m.? >> what i'm noticing in my study is an even bigger gender gap, that trump is doing better with male voters that romney did four years ago and mrs. clinton is doing slightly better with women voters than obama did four years ago which is making for a very tight election. >> freddie, bill, thank you. we'll chat more about these key florida. this is our working newsroom. this is the engine room of our election center. the notebooks are out, the binders are out as these guys dig through the data. lester? >> hallie, thanks very much. one of the things we've not talked about a lot in this campaign is the historic nature of hillary clinton's campaign. she's not made a big deal about it but as we see her perform with women voters, how does it play? >> you know, it's very interesting because in 2008, one of the things that the campaign
of her candidacy the way that barack obama had with his candidacy as the first african-american. i think they dabbled in making it a possible appeal to voters but it never really caught on that way. if she were elected tonight, of course it would make history but i just don't see that as a point of emphasis in the campaign as much as you mightnk break. we'll be back more with nbc
we are back now from our election center in new york. this is a very tight race between hillary clinton and donald trump. many states right now are too close to call, as i think we it's going to be a long night. let's go through some of those states and show you where things stand. as we look at the national popular vote, trump at 50% and florida continues to be too close to call. 141,000-vote difference there. michigan, it has emerged as an important state. 28,000-vote difference. that's too close to call. ohio, too close to call. you see the difference there. that could go way, way into the night or early morning.
56,000-vote difference. let's look at georgia. hillary clinton drawing close there down the stretch. that is too close to call. you see the difference on the screen there. new hampshire, new hampshire right now is too close to call. 1700-vote difference. 22% of the votes in. and pennsylvania, this is where hillary clinton wound up her campaign with that big rally with the obamas last night, 156,000-vote difference. 15% of the vote in. and the guy that's watching ma minutia of all of this is chuck todd. >> we have 94% in for florida. most of the vote left is in miami and broward. there's more vote in broward left than dade. she's winning this 67-31. the bottom line is this. how much vote is left and what
if there's 400,000 votes left, okay, and i'm just going to do it this way, if there's 400,000 votes left and she wins it 70-30, she'll net -- she'll net 140,000 votes. that's assuming all that. now, let me go back to where florida is. oops. sorry about that. show you the total vote here in florida. it's about 140,000. my point is this. i don't know if there's enough i don't know if trump can hang on. we are looking at a florida -- i don't think it's going to be closer than 537 votes, nicolle, but it is going to be less than a percentage point at this point. we just don't know. >> and then it gets down to what was your strategy without florida. each of them had one going into this, she going into this had more roots. >> right. no, him with florida and it's a straight shot, it's -- he can do
keep in mind, we still have north carolina sitting out there too close to call, new hampshire too close to call. i can tell you this, if you're the clinton campaign, because of the way the rest of the map looks, you don't want to see florida go red yet. >> and nicolle, if you're the trump campaign right now, you're starting to feel signs of life? >> well, you're saying, i told you so in that this was a lot closer than any of us -- i'll put myself in this category myself alone than i thought and th i think that the polls showed hillary clinton with an 85% chance of winning. this doesn't feel like that kind of night. and trump supporters -- and i know this because i have several of my family is divided generationally between trump supporters and clinton supporters, they felt there could be a brexit effect. we don't have enough information to know if that's the case but if she wins, she won't win it
will prove everybody wrong. >> we knew we weren't going to have a call this early in the night. it was going to be close but -- >> the clinton camp thought they did. i have to say, the clinton campaign for the last 72 hours has been projecting a lot of confidence. >> but here's why. the trump campaign didn't have the same turnout operation as the clinton campaign and we saw some of the demographic roots and i think what everybody underestimated was the trump -- the rural vote coming in as high as it did. and you know what, i think we have s was whether -- we didn't have our weights correct and we didn't realize that he was going to bust through the caps, essentially, of what -- turnout caps in those ruby red counties and even in -- >> you know, from the beginning, donald trump has been running from the ground up, not from the top down. he tapped in to all of those people feeling disenfranchised. i was looking at iowa the other
hughes and dick clark. now it's a very conservative evangelical state because they are uncomfortable with the shifts. they moved to the right and donald trump came along and tapped into all of that by going down at the bottom level and working his way up. the fact is that he i astonished everyone from the very beginning of all of this, including the last 48 hours, however this turns out tonight it's going to be so much closer than anybody could have realized going in. >> we ought to bring up what's going on with dow futures right now. >> yeah. >> all of the stock markets around the world are in a crater. >> margin calls. >> yes. >> i've had a note from somebody saying they are beginning to sell off because it went the other way in the last 24 hours, by the way. >> when everybody thought she was going to win.
could put together their own electoral maps, call 270 to win and as far as i can tell, it's crashed right now. i think everyone is -- they are starting to -- >> how does this work? there's no florida. what's the map? >> talk to the master here. he can walk you through it. let's go to rehema ellis. >> reporter: absolutely, lester. we're at a watch party for is dallas woodhouse. this is a toss-upstate. how are you feeling? you've got butterflies in your stomach? >> i feel more nervous than a fish at a fish fry. no question about that. however, we are in a great position at this point in the evening. urban areas tend to come in sooner and mr. trump looks like he's well on his way to win.
normally when you go up more than halfway across, you don't go back down. i will tell you a couple of things. we were up as republicans 100,000 votes, over 212,000. the democrats were down 22,000. >> reporter: that's early voting but now you've got the voting today. >> right. but republicans win election day. democrats win early voting. and they did win early voting. >> reporter: and that's what you did in 2012 and in obama took this stage. you think that trump is going to take it? >> doi believe that we're going to win. trump, burr and mccrory tonight. close races. >> reporter: they are cautiously optimistic here. >> thanks very much. let's go to miami right now with a family who is nervously watching these results in florida where things are extraordinarily tight.
local watch party in miami. many of the people you see behind me are undocumented. some are voters and, as you can imagine, the mood here grew incredibly tense as these results started to tighten like many latinos across the country for many of the voters here, their main motivation was what they call the trump effect or the trump factor, mainly, the republican candidate's stance on immigration that crystallized the issues for so many and as you have been covering throughout the night, we have seen record turnout by latinos in several battleground states here in florida, a 75% increase in early voting by latinos compared to 2012. but just the fact that donald trump appears to be leading in the polls now just brought back the issue of immigration to a gathering like this one you see behind me. it is not the only issue latinos care about but it is a very
right here. many of these families holding hands. they even held a prayer not too long ago as they anxiously await these results and fear their families could be split up if donald trump in fact wins the presidency. >> mariana, thanks. i think it's time to revisit -- it's time to revisit the -- >> the what if map? >> yeah, the route to 270. and florida was such a big part of it. >> let's, for now -- and we're just going to do it. we're just going to give it -- trump's leading there. he's leading in georgia. he's leading in north carolina. he's leading in ohio. he's sitting at 248. let's assume arizona he sits at 259 there. he's not leading in new hampshire. we do have this nebraska situation. i don't know why we haven't -- >> it's split. >> it's split but he's already got those, that we're aware of. >> that is sitting out there.
this assumed michigan. you just flipped michigan here. now, let's give her new hampshire for now. there is some work there. and then you look -- >> she's over the top. >> he would be over the top with michigan at this point. she needs one of these states. let's put back north carolina. that would do it. but as you can see here, now michigan -- take michigan and it's a different situation. this is what we're staring at. it doesn't take long, by the interesting things on twitter. it doesn't take long to get you to 269. i could do it right here by simply moving colorado and then you would have -- i don't know why we have three extras. i think nebraska has gotten messed up here on our map so we will neutralize them. but this should be red. the point is, this is precarious. this map is suddenly 50/50.
>> this is no longer -- if he sweeps those two and ohio and we're looking at michigan too close to call and suddenly we could be sitting on michigan, colorado. i mean, it's going to be a long night. if you're a junkie, it's going to be a fun night. we're dividing up this map in ways we haven't seen. 269, 269 is in play. this feels a lot like 2000 brokaw. >> are you okay, tom? >> yeah. so that's okay. i can just go back to that. >> i may need to borrow it. we're going to take a quick break. we're continuing to monitor those states that are too close to call. you will want to stay with us. our decision night in america continues here on nbc.
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that's democracy plaza outside our studios here in new york on what is a dramatic night that has even more drama on top of it. the popular vote, trump ahead, 49-47%. but folks, this is a night about the battleground states. we knew closer than many imagined. florida right now, too close to call. 139,000-vote difference. clinton was forced to defend down the stretch, a 50,000 vote difference, too close to call. ohio, perennial battleground state, too close to call. you see the difference there. north carolina right now at 84,000-vote difference. too close to call. same story in georgia, a state
blue, very close there as well. too close. new hampshire, look at new hampshire right there. 1300, 1400 votes separate the two of them. and pennsylvania, also too close to call. the state that hillary clinton made her big finish last night. a lot of drama here on this night and in the race to 270, here's where things stand. based on the projections we've made so far, 137 in the trump column, 104 to hillary clinton. and there's the map unfolding on the rink below us. a lot of gray still unfinished which will tell the story when they are filled in but right now they are not and the biggest one hanging out there, literally, is florida. >> i hate to say, this looks good for trump. >> in florida? >> in florida. i think with what's left -- it depends on how much is left and nicolle remembers this mythical box, it switches.
at about 75, 80% of the broward vote is in and she has not narrowed that gap. there's not a lot left. one precinct in miami can be -- can have 100,000 votes in it. so that happens in those big counties so you don't know for sure but i don't think -- she needs, as i said -- she's still behind 140,000 votes. she needs to hope there's -- i keep saying, 400,000 votes remaining and wins them wins them 65-35 but i don't know if there's that much votes left. >> what about the too close to call states? >> we have a way to go here. north carolina, there's too much vote out to say. i take the republican party spokesperson dallas woodhouse's word for it that you'd rather be trump than clinton but if you go to virginia, it's narrowed to
starting to look like she is likely to end up getting what she needs here. we're still waiting for fairfax and northern virginia. she'll likely win virginia but by the smallest of margins and we have to wait to see if these folks turned out. but virginia is trending her way, narrowly, okay, but we -- it may be michigan. >> michigan. >> michigan is going to be the linchpin. if he carolina and ohio, we're going to be sitting here waiting on michigan. >> and nobody was talking about michigan five days ago. >> let's go to hallie jackson now. hallie? >> reporter: i'm joined by filmmaker michael moore who has spent months diving into the mind of the trump voter. you're a hillary clinton supporter but you have predicted what we are seeing with donald trump, particularly in michigan, for months.
states, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania, that the working class that has been so abused and attacked and their livelihood taken from them over these last couple decades. they are at the point where they are so angry and full of so much despair that i could see they would use the ballot box as an anger management exercise. >> you call it a middle finger to the >> yes, only to find out a month or two from now how regretful they are going to be because he's not only going to blow up the system, he has no idea how to rebuild it. >> so when we talk about a state like michigan which came on late in the game as a really important battleground, when we're seeing what we're seeing there tonight which is this state that is incredibly close and essentially a turning point for donald trump, you're a guy who knows michigan pretty well. are you surprised by that? >> not at all. this has been my fear.
we have to put special focus on michigan, ohio, pennsylvania. these are the people i grew up with. i know what's going on here. they are being manipulated by a con artist. that's what donald trump is. he has not told them the truth. he's not going to bring your jobs back and he is really -- he's the -- he's a dying dinosaur. his way of doing things and that old -- that's the old america. we're into the future right now. >> michael moore, thank you very supporter, now a hillary clinton supporter. lester, back to you on the other side of our election center. >> hallie, thanks. up next, a live report on the ground in which is perhaps the most surprising battleground in the whole election. plus, four more states are
break, this is a picture ivanka trump tweeted out showing mike pence and family and staffers watching returns here like the rest of us, trying to figure out where this is all leading. let's go to katy tur at trump headquarters. katy? >> reporter: quite confident in where they stand at this moment. they still believe this is going to be a tight race but it's looking even better than it ever has, frankly.
now. two of donald trump sources are telling us, florida operatives are telling us that it's a nail-biter but that they will win it. they are holding their breath and waiting on more results from broward county. a source in virginia tells us to watch out for virginia beach. they believe they could see quite a bit of turnout in that area. after they go from florida, north carolina, ohio and iowa, then they are going to go on and keep their focus on michigan. if they can turn michigan, they about this race. they have said for quite a while now that they believe michigan is a state that is particularly susceptible to donald trump's message, his job's message. they believe it's one that cuts across demographics, one that won't matter what race you are. you'll want to vote for jobs rather than vote along party lines and they believe they are going to be able to do that. >> let's go to andrea mitchell
>> reporter: they are about as nervous as every other democrat around. look, this place is so down, they are playing videos and also coverage. now there's a cheer that's gone up because they see some movement in virginia. virginia is critical, as you know. they were waiting to see what was happening in fairfax county and in richmond. but the fact is that the results in michigan and ohio and the mood here. that's the first cheer i've heard here basically all night, anything other than an east coast state like rhode island or connecticut performa. the fact is, they are going to have to look back at what they didn't do. they had a 2-1 spending advantage on air, on television.
they have a lot of thinking to do about what is happening here tonight if this thing does go against them. >> andrea, in that crowd, we heard them applause a minute ago. let's put up virginia. >> first time that she took the lead and that's what they were looking at. >> move forward there. >> there it is. she took the narrow lead and i can just tell you, my own history of doing this, we know where this is headed but, wow, it's close. >> she had to work for it. >> that's right. >> w 10:00 p.m. in the east and 7:00 p.m. out west.
welcome back, everyone. it's 10:00 p.m. in the east and 7:00 p.m. in the west. . the polls have more states. let's take you through what we have. as you look at the vote total, looking at the state of iowa, it's too close to call. nevada, too close to call. utah, too early. keep in mind, that's a three-way race with mcmullin in the race there in utah. montana, nbc news projects donald trump will win in montana. . and we can look where we stand
now. based on the projections we have made so far, trump with 140 and clinton with 104. we're also watching where things are close, the state of pennsylvania as we take a look right there at the map. but if we can move out, i want to show you what is happening in pennsylvania because we want to go to our correspondent there, kate snow, who is with both trump and clinton voters. . kate? >> reporter: lester, yeah, we are right outside of philadelphia, montgomery county, wh that you need to watch in pennsylvania. and it's interesting, we're in a bar, obviously. we've got a lot of trump fans here. i was talking to lisa before. you were telling me that you didn't want to put a sign out in front of your house because you're a business owner. but now, how are you feeling right now? >> i'm so excited. i am just beyond excited because now you can say this is the guy i wanted, this is a guy who spoke his mind and who is going to fight for us. >> reporter: why did you vote
volunteer. why? >> yeah, because he, again, is going to take our country back. . there are different things as a business owner you want to just -- taxes, obamacare, there are all of these -- >> reporter: you said to me earlier you felt like he says the things that other people don't say out loud? >> no. they said he said this about women, he said that. what has he said that i don't hear other women saying about men? you know, all the time and have said worse than he's ever said. >> reporter: let me pivot over here. how are you feeling? you're watching the tvs in here. the sound isn't up. how are you feeling? >> a little nervous. i'm surprised about florida being so close. i don't want it to go back to a bush/gore thing where they have
florida. >> everybody is nodding. nobody wants a recount. myself, included. i was in tallahassee for a long time. tell me why you think this county might go for hillary clinton. . >> i'm actually from illinois but -- >> reporter: okay. you're from philly. we've got a mixed crowd in the bar. why did you vote for her? >> i did not vote because i'm not aman so much, appreciate it. lester, i would say it's very loud in here, there's a deejay playing behind me so folks can't really hear all of our coverage. we've got it all on the screen. people are glued to the screens. we're hearing the lines were so long in some places, people are still voting. even though polls closed technically at 8:00, two hours ago,
>> kate, thanks. another projection coming in, i'm told it's new mexico. nbc news projects that hillary clinton will win the five electoral votes in the state of new mexico. hallie jackson is digging into some of the numbers in this very, very tight race in the exit polls. >> lester, we're looking at three battleground states. michigan. we've been talking about that all night. we want to focus on what's driving this close race in these states. and in michigan, at this moment, exit polls are showing it appears to be white voters with a college degree. look at this column here, the republican candidate. the republican candidate in 2012 got 55% of the vote. donald trump is doing better, up six points. he is overperforming the republican from 2012, mitt romney. look at the democratic candidate, of course hillary clinton. in 2012, barack obama,
she is down 13 percentage points from that position, from where they were in 2012. so that is really what we're looking at and what we're sort of diving into when it comes to michigan. i want to pull up pennsylvania. we're taking a look at the age gap. voters in pennsylvania under the age of 30, the so-called millennials, they're breaking out for hillary clinton by 55-39%. it's the reverse of that when you look at voters over more for donald trump. he's got 60% of the vote, she's got 48% of the vote. another key battleground state, the race breakout in florida. let's pull it up here. those voters in florida who have a favorable opinion of donald trump, most white voters in florida do have a favorable opinion. one in four hispanic voters roughly have a favorable opinion. only one in ten black voters feel that same way. and this demographic here, the african-american vote, the hispanic vote, that is going to be crucial to what we see
i did speak with one source close to the trump campaign who said, hey, we are not getting crushed with the hispanic vote, a good sign for them. >> hallie jackson, thanks. now back to our panel. mike murphy served as senior strategist for john mccain's first campaign for president in 2000, mike, nice to have you. for those who thought this was going to be an early evening, you say? >> yeah. anything but. i thought florida, a state i worked a lo political hacks on both sides thought it would be an early defeat for trump and that would set the tone. instead, florida will be hard. >> we have another call in the state of missouri. nbc news projects missouri will go to donald trump, donald trump a win. and let's look at where things stand right now. there is a missouri call. let me show where we stand in the race to 270. there it is right now. trump with 150,
mike, i cut you off, i'm sorry, go ahead. >> what's interesting about florida is the pattern is unlike anything i've seen in florida politics before. you get a more urban republican area, jacksonville, trump is doing horribly. he's doing under romney in the bigger counties. but in tampa he's off the charts, breaking the meters in numbers that we haven't seen before. i believe it will tighten, there is more of her vote out his. i don't think she'll be able to make it. >> so far he hasn't won anything that we didn't anticipate. chuck, you've been crunching the numbers on florida. >> it's not enough. maybe there's some extra vote that we don't know about. i stress that, that happens. i remember vividly in 2000, the 50,000-vote error that was discovered late. so don't forget those things happen here. but you look, and
county has reported. what's out is, there's only one county that's out that's more favorable to trump. polk has a little bit. volusia, which is daytona, a 50/50 county. that's not enough for her to gain ground. it's palm beach, miami, and broward. is there enough vote out there left in those bottom three counties for her to close this gap? but i have to tell you, the gap grew again. she got it down to 111,000. an i don't see the path forward for her in florida. listen to this, last time a democrat won the white house without the state of florida was bill clinton, 1992. so maybe she's got that karma going for her, i don't know. the last time you lost florida and ohio and won the white house? >> we're looking at a situation that it's michigan. at the end of the day, we're staring at michigan.
pennsylvania, she probably does eke it out, we'll see. she has to do that. we're looking at michigan being the big decider here. >> nobody was talking about michigan until about five days ago. >> except michael moore, i'll give him that, he's been screaming about that, to his credit. >> to his credit. it's his home state, we all like to talk about our home states, we look at chuck with florida. trump saw something going on in michigan, they sent him there, people were saying, what? then the clinton team ad a there. >> somebody who's done a lot of governor campaigns, michigan has rural counties that are more democratic in many places compared to sun belt and southern states. >> they have been. >> they have been. will trump turn that over and will detroit vote with flint or will it be under enough that trump's overage in some of these places will make it? trump was doing well at the beginning but a lot of michigan is
it's going to be tight. >> totally underestimated by those of us in the so-called establishment. the people who have been looking at this, the depth of the anger, the depth of the people saying i want to change, i don't care if i have to pull a pin on a grenade and roll it across the country, whatever it takes, we want change and we want big change. >> the other thing we did, and i have to say this, the biggest critique on the establishment, and i throw the media in here as well as the two political parties, we have overlooked rural america a bit too much. hindsight, you know, everybody's been talking about the changing demographics of america and the changing face of america. that's all true. but we've forgotten about rural america. and rural america is basically saying, hello, they are screaming at us to say, stop overlooking us, you know, we're not ready to have just 21st century fly by us. >> some of this has been hiding in plain sight. donald trump came in with a message that was very distinct and very different from
from republican -- the way that republicans have always run as free traders and they love free trade agreements. and if his message is resonating, this is where it was going to resonate. if it was going to make a difference, this is exactly where. in some ways, ultimately it's not surprising that now we're focused like a laser on this section of the country. >> and building a bit of a new coalition with that economic populism. but will it have long enough legs? we'll see. >> we still have hours to go here. by the way, if you have would call them right now. >> joining us now is conservative political commentator and host glenn beck, founder of the blaze, thanks for joining us. >> thank you very much. >> give us your take, things are a lot tighter than many had imagined tonight. >> a lot tighter than i imagined as well. i think what chuck
right on the money. i think chuck said the heartland. i don't think we've listened to each other at all. i know i've been at fault in this. in the last couple of years, i've recall tried to analyze myself and analyze what i've done and what i do. and we don't listen to each other. and we don't trust each other. and, you know, the media, that includes me, that unfortunately, tom, includes it does, that 34% of americans trust any of our voices. and that is because they view us as speaking down to them, pontifica pontificating, telling them and not listening to them, declaring who they are. it's difficult for me to consider myself a conservative or to consider myself a
conservative or a republican is, then i'm not part of that. i don't want anything to do with that. but i understand why people are feeling this way. when you have, what is it, 60% of the people who voted for donald trump don't like that they're voting for adopt, and 54% who are voting for hillary clinton aren't happy about voting for hillary clinton. >> so at the end of this, are you going to have a lot voters, people like yourself who don't feel like they have a place? >> i think the majority feel that way, even those people who voted for either one of these, they're not happy with it. and so i think on both sides, the parties have to realize now, boy, we need to start reflecting the piece people and listening to the people, because the people are entering a time, as we see tonight, beyond
much fear or so much anger, you know, the mind's mechanism is just to shut down reason. they're not listening to reason. and we have got to find our way to each other. my goal in the next year is to meet with the people i think i disagree with the most and not try to talk them into anything, not try to have an argument with them, i just want to listen. i want to be able to say, is this what you believe, and why you believit then we could even begin to have a conversation. but at least for me, that's a year away before i can have a conversation. we have to start listening to people. if we don't, we're in trouble. >> glenn beck, thanks for spending some time from dallas. the close race is still up for grabs. we're awaiting more poll closings. stay with us. things remain razor thin right now. more coverage of decision night in
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welcome back. a view of the rink, democracy plaza. the map slowly filling in. we're waiting for a lot of states, too close to call. a nail-biter of a night. the race to 270, those are the numbers there. we want to show you a tweet hillary clinton put out a little after 5:00 this afternoon. i'll try and read it from here. "this team has so much to be proud of. whatever happens
that, by the way, was before any of the polls closed. that again from hillary clinton. we're also watching the dow futures right now reacting to this night. the dow futures down 625 points right now as investors continue to watch what's happening here. this race a lot closer at this point in the night than many people had anticipated. it's going to keep us all up here quite late tonight. a lot of states too close to call. let's go welker at clinton headquarters. >> reporter: lester, good evening. top clinton campaign officials and surrogates say they're not panicking. they still insist there is a path to win even if they don't hold florida or ohio, not that they are conceding those states. the path for them, the states that they are focused on right now, include michigan, colorado, virginia, and pennsylvania. lester, we've spent so much time talking about pennsylvania.
30,000 people joined by the obamas and of course her husband, that big unity rally. i can tell you that i've been talking to democrats who were invited here to what they were hoping would be a watch party and victory party and they are candidly acknowledging that they have begun to get nervous, that this is a very close race. they were anticipating that but obviously it's turning into a much closer race than they had hoped for. the mood here, when this night initially ebullient. the crowd was cheering, now it has become much quieter, those moments of cheering have become fewer and farther between. again, they still think they have a path and they are very focused on the state of michigan and pennsylvania at this hour, lester. >> all right, right now we see trump leading in the electoral race with 150 to clinton's 109. this could be, this will be, a very long night. we'll be here with you
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where that takes us in the race to 270 right now. as we come down on the ice and right now it's 168, trump. clinton, 109. you've been watching florida. you don't think it's going well for clinton there. >> i don't. and i think north carolina is trending trump here. look, first of all, ohio, a little historical nugget. last time somebody didn't win the white house while winning ohio was in 1960, richard nixon. ohio, you have to win house. trump has done it. florida is trending his way. north carolina is trending his way. i go back, this is -- i mean, luke russert has already tweeted it, god love him. michigan, michigan, michigan. itting here talking about michigan. >> ohio, i agree, i was just going to say, ohio is one where the polls seem to have gotten it right, the polls consistently showed a tight race with trump up a little bit.
florida and ohio, potentially north carolina, now we're looking at the rust belt, virginia close for comfort for clinton. >> the clinton campaign bragged about these firewalls. okay. let's see if you have one. we're about to find out. >> does pennsylvania remain a firewall? >> pennsylvania is the one state so far performing as they expected, not underperforming. all eyes are on michigan. although both new hampshire and nevada, those go ways that you're not sure, and then into the funky 269-269 business, i'm not saying that yet. there's still macomb county and wayne county. she's winning in oakland by about ten points. it's killing it in macomb by about 20, the old democrat home. wayne is detroit. detroit has been a shrinking city, one of
shrinking, not expanding over the last decade. >> she's going to lead excellent wayne county. he'll do well in western wayne county, which are working class suburbs. and genesee, flint. she'll need to perform there. the rural stuff is going pretty well for him. and oakland is not that big. it should be -- >> not big enough. >> are there any signs, we talked about the silent trump vote, the ones that didn't show up on the radar in the polls? >> i wouldn't call it silent. i think we underestimated the turnout in rural and i think a lot of the polling underestimated it. is it a silent trump vote or it was more, it was there, it didn't activate during the primaries in these giant numbers, so i think too many of our pros, i would love to talk to our pollsters about it, these folks maxed out in rural america. >> it vindicates what donald trump was saying about his rallies, look all these people, i got 20,000 people in this
or everywhere. >> the governor of ohio, a very popular guy, governor cass itch, who has gone to war against donald trump during this entire election season, and rob portman who ran away from him, a popular senator, trump comes into the state and wins it. i mean, that tells you something that is extraordinary that is going on. conventional politics ain't in play anymore, folks. >> in his places, they're on steroids. it is huge amounts of numbers. >> we've got to take a more as we continue. again, ohio is the latest one in the trump portfolio, as we've watched that
and as we come back from a break, we have a new projection. nbc news projects that hillary clinton will win in the state of virginia. 13 electoral votes. here is how it's shaking out right now. over trump. let's see how things stand on the electoral map. trump, 168, clinton 122, as our map begins to fill in. some states in gray on the map will create upset stomachs in both campaigns. >> these guys are the
nbc/"wall street journal" poll. bill, obviously the battlegrounds, much tighter than any of the polling showed. not just ours, all of the polling. is this the result of a hidden trump vote, or us underestimating what rural america would do in turning out? >> well, i think it's a little bit of both. it's not a shy vote. it's that donald trump has built a unique coalition, winning white non-college by the mid-30 than ronald reagan in the year 1980. and those people are turning out. and it's aggregating. when you're winning the rural part by 30, 35 points, it's offsetting softer turnout in some of the core urban areas. that combination is pushing these states. look, the other thing you want to remember is that minnesota, michigan, these are states that still radiant a very high percentage of the white vote, very
>> fred? >> i would say volatility. one of the interesting findings from the exit polls is the people who decided in the last couple of days went for trump by five points, not a huge margin, but in a race like this where small margins make a big difference in some of these battleground states. plus the fact that clinton didn't perform as well with white college age voters as some of the pre-election polls suggested. add all these things up, it tilts some of thes column. >> bill, you had a fascinating nugget in the exit poll. among voters who didn't like both candidates, who is winning? >> trump is winning 2-1. that's 18% of the people who voted who didn't like either candidate. >> that's one in five. >> that's 3, 3 1/2 times higher than the things we normally see. you have folks, one out of five, who don't like either candidate, and they voted for the guy who represents the bigger change.
americans gave president obama a positive approval rating. and his designated successor is in a 50/50 fight for the presidency. >> unbelievable. all right, lester, i'm coming back to the boards, buddy. >> come on back. i want to go out to andrea mitchell at hillary clinton's headquarters in new york. andrea, we've discussed over the last week or two this notion of overconfidence. the clinton folks said they were guarding against it. but clearly there's got to be a lot of nervousness in that room right now. >> there was a big cheer that went up with the virginia call, that was a very big deal. interesting that barbara comstock, a well-known fairfax county congresswoman, republican, won her seat, even though hillary clinton is projected to be the winner in virginia. the crowd is being fired up by governor andrew cuomo, speaking outside this room. other than that, there have been few speakers that have gotten their
here. that said, if they win michigan, and i was talking to former governor jennifer granholm who still things it's possible, she acknowledges the african-american vote was not what they expected, they're still looking for more latino votes. they're waiting to see what happens in michigan, as you've all been pointing out, that's their hope that they've got a path. i don't buy the argument about overconfidence. just traveling with hillary clinton and watching how hard they worked and the money they've spent, a field of volunteers and paid staff they put out there, i think that they were determined not to leave anything on the table up until her final homecoming at 3:30, 3:45 this morning. so i just think that the e-mail controversy and other ingredients that made her less popular, less trustworthy, you just cited those polls with john yang and bill
residual fact. that last-minute comey letter, we don't know this, anecdotally, that last-minute letter was a momentum-killer. nbc news projects the state of colorado, hillary clinton will win in the state of colorado, nine electoral votes. let me quickly get that's an important one. that's got to -- >> here's what's happened. they're all important for her now, and for him. with all due respect to our pollsters and everyone else's pollsters, the assumption as of noon today was that she was three points, five points ahead. this is not the map that reflects a three-point race. the republicans in michigan are like republicans in a lot of the other states, he certainly had a big
watching but someone in the trump orbit knew he had a shot at. >> trump at 168, hillary clinton at 131, in the race to 270. chuck is at the map continuing to work these paths to 270. >> i'm going to put them here. nebraska, we had a little glitch, it's all in the system, trust me on there. let's put arizona, let's give her pennsylvania. if it holds, one of our pollsters, an expert on pennsylvania, he thinks she wins there. 259 to 252. let's see what happens in nevada. i'm not as confident about nevada anymore considering what we've seen there. but you can easily start messing around. michigan would put him completely over the top without needing a nevada and without needing new hampshire. that's the potential path he now has. this assumes that iowa goes his way too, we
the night before the election, barry goldwater started that in 1952 and it's been really one of the great and wonderful experiences that i had in my political life. i mentioned last night, i had as you know a hometown growing up, the navy was my home and my parent's home until i get married and got arizona. this magnificent place, my family and greatest gift i've received. campaigns are harder on the campaign's family than the candidate. and i put my family through a few. thank you for your love and support and for everything. and that my friends with a full heart and ready to get back to work for you. i'll say good night and thank you one last time for making me
>> [applause]. >> [cheers and applause]. >> all right, you heard from john mccain doing his acceptance speech and here are the numbers, 53%, john mccain winning over challenger, and kirkpatrick. you can see his lead in votes. 146,000, and we're going to send it over to nbc continuing coverage. >> you see president obama won it by 50 points and he got nearly 370,000 net. my point, that is what you're going to be wanting to watch tonight, number one. going to be how much, looks like, how much does she get out of here? very little of detroit and she
net as much as obama but probably 275 to 300,000 votes out of wayne county. that is just a simple way of watching michigan right now. >> can you show us florida? >> let's go ahead and go to it. . i could have navigated it simplier. coming in. she hasn't narrowed the gap that well of it's not not there. unless there's magic ballot boxes somewhere that we don't know about, i can tell you the this remaining vet is here in palm beach and miami and one precinct in monroe left. i was talking to florida, florida expert. and these tampa county.
he just blew through every single vote and even republicans. just blew through. she did her job. single most you can say, the most important swing county in the country over the last 16 years. this is not enough. she's going to win this and lose the state. that's the story of what has didn't have a get out the vote operation. and there was that from some inside states. the vote got out. out the vote operations. he got out the vote. we'll take a break. a lot more on decision
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more as a result. and wall street is making their bets about what is going to happen, and they think trump is going to be the president. and florida seems to be slipping away from clinton. >> i don't speak fluent cnbc, but wall street hates uncertainty and i think most financial experts said they wouldn't price in a hillary clinton would win. what we're seeing here is wall street reacting to the uncertainty. what does it mean? this is not something that the markets have considered as a true possibility. it went the other way when they did that. the polls didn't really identify a comey effect. but you felt it.
never know. the point is, was is natural or did, or did comey galvanize the base to say, that's why i don't like her. i had someone text me and say democrats and this was a democrat, they under estimated the dislike of hillary clinton. trump's dislike would trump her they thought but what is happening. if you dislike them, you're more likely to vote trump. >> and our exit poll showed, people had them even in terms of untruthfulness and honesty. >> we have to be careful. we don't have final results and have to work our way through them. >> even if they wins, this is a different, an impactful result. >> i agree, and i think even if
there will be a challenge to it given the way donald trump operates and close enough to say put it on hold. >> it's going to come to that. >> whatever the results. >> interesting, when we polled, it's consistent and trump has hi negatives but both negative opinions from the public. and however, it seems like voters were willing to say as long as protest vote, we're going to stick with him. >> we have more ahead. stay with us. decision night continues here on nbc. welcome back to decision 2016, quite an unforgettable night. so far, so many people seeing results. and they're surprised and at
are incredibly jaw-dropping when it comes to the presidential race. donald trump carrying arizona. not unexpected but 23% reporting, this is a state that hillary clinton's people said might have to be a firewall for her if she loses states like michigan and it looks like she'll lose florida. paul was pulling ahead of arpaio and that is looking that way now. 55% of the vote and the big donation from george soros to vote against joe arpaio. that's taken a toll tonight. let's look at the props. prop 206, raising the minimum wage, a winning proposition and getting 60% of the vote and then the other interesting proposition. the legalization of
53%. and that is at 24% of the precincts, county recorder, adrian is leading helen, 51% to 49%. but she said there will be likely 350,000 uncounted ballots. perhaps, numbers like that will be her undoing as we move forward that the actual results arizona. >> a lot of criticism for what happened in the primaries. now it's time to head out to joe dana, live at the gop headquarters and we saw the numbers there, arpaio is up and trump is up, what is the atmosphere like? >> arpaio down in the latest poll but i'm here with robert graham, chair of the republican party.
>> amazing, florida and north carolina and it looks like we're going to have donald trump as the president of the united states. holy cow, even with someone optimistic like you, you got to be surprised. >> in florida, a good friend of mine, he called it and they would win by .3%. and even they were looking to spend a it's not possible, we're up 3% and the when the votes from counted, one of the strong holds and we're doing well. >> thanks, for now, back to you. now we want to check in with the democrats and she's going to talk to us about issues that have been front and center in the headlines. and that's the latino vote.
>> it's a tight race. >> there are tight races but the one thing is the arpaio race tonight. some of the biggest cheers that we heard all throughout the night, they talked about arpaio. and penzone taking over. they really wanted the latino vote to come out. and new register and vote. it looks like they did it. arpaio is behind penzone, and clinton is closer. to them, that shows that the latino vote matters. with penzone, they announced he was going to be the new sheriff. he's going to be sheriff, this
>> early voting results say right now, pen zone has a big lead. is that a huge relief? >> makes like me speechless. all our hard work and every single day and letting them now how important it was. and if he wins, it's going to make me cry. again with arpaio down, they're happy with the way things have turned out. >> it's important to distinguish, it looks like sheriff arpaio will not be re- elected by trump is leading in the national numbers. >> and of course, we know that
donald trump. we'll be back in a half an hour. keep it on 12 news and we'll see you in a few minutes. we are at the top of the hour. and we have new projections at the 11:00 hour here in the east, 8:00 pacific. nbc news projects that hillary clinton wins the state of california with its 55 clinton also wins in hawaii. trump will win in idaho when all the votes are counted. clinton wins in oregon. and nbc news projects that clinton will win in the state of washington. let's see where that leaves us now in the race to 270. clinton climbs ahead now with 209.
filled in, the ones projected, you're hearing the crowd, a lot of folks at democracy plaza at 30 rock, watching the giant monitors here and reacting as we make these calls. that's the state of the map. there is the crowd right now. this is clinton headquarters. they're reacting to those slew of calls that went her way, including the big one of california. those are important calls for her. but as chuck keeps reminding us, it doesn't undermine the fundamentalsha against or working with. >> let's talk arizona. we do have another battleground. arizona is living up to the hype. it is a battleground state. about half the vote, a little less than half the vote is in, or a little more than half the vote is in, it's a three-point right. >> now we're getting into my home state. what county are out? >> you two talk amongst yourself. >> all of pima. >> that is huge for
liberal enclave in an otherwise fairly conservative state. >> pima is out at this point? >> we have half of maricopa. basically that's trump's lead in maricopa, the gargantuan county that is phoenix and every other place that goes into that state. >> chuck, riddle me this. if arizona were to flip, it's a lean-gop right now, but if it were to flip, does it change your maph she can lose michigan and sweep nevada, new hampshire, and arizona. or she can afford to lose both nevada and new hampshire and have an arizona. but she's not winning in arizona. the point is, i did want to throw arizona up there, just yet another -- it's funny, she did show some strength in some states that we didn't expect. but he's showing more strengths in more states. >> what's so fascinating is this
sun belt. we don't know what will happen in arizona, but if she's turning out the hispanic vote in a big way, but then the rust belt, he's turning out voters who have been traditionally democratic in a lot of cases. the whole map is being rewritten. >> look at the sun belt. right now, we're looking at -- i'm trying to figure out what blue state she's going to get. the sun belt, she's got new mexico. i'm looking here. >> nevada is a question mark. north carolina and florida appear to be leaning trump. georgia doesn't look like that's going to come through for her. there's a lot of vote out, it's taking georgia forever to count its votes, that's why we've waited so long there. yes, she's showed competitiveness in the sun belt. she needed to have a margin for error, she needed to flip one of these sun belt states or keep them with her. >> in times gone by, when she was feeling
like a ten-point race for her, she added a trip to arizona. people interpreted that as a huge sign of confidence. some of her surrogates were there. bernie sanders was there. >> right now they're relieved they went to arizona, they're desperate to ensure they have another state in play. >> can we show where we stand with wisconsin right now? wisconsin. here we go. ten electoral votes. trump leading there 58% of the vote is in. according to kristen welker, this is part of what they see now as their path to victory for wisconsin and michigan. >> there's still a lot out, about half of dane county, that's madison. that's a big one there. milwaukee. most of milwaukee is in. and that's something that has to -- if you're -- >> you want the margin in milwaukee.
of vote out. >> we have a call to make, a projection. it's the state of north carolina. nbc news projects that donald trump will win in the state of north carolina. that's 15 electoral votes. here is how it is playing out right now. trump is 5 51%, trump with 46, we project trump wins north carolina. right now clinton staying at 209. that takes tru 187. 270 the number to win. >> remember, kellyanne conway liked to talk about the core four. the core four that the trump campaign was talking about was florida, north carolina, ohio and iowa. right now, they're three for three. although we haven't called florida yet. florida looks good for him. they're leading in florida. iowa, by the way, is razor thin. i think a lot of people automatically assumed trump was going to carry iowa.
she's hanging in there. the democratic party machine still existed there. i think a lot of people wrote off iowa on her. once again we're upended something, this is one we thought trump was going to -- and he still might, there's still a lot of vote out. she's hanging in there. >> i think we're going -- did you say -- let's go to hallie jackson. she's taking a closer look at this, one of the sideshows we're watching here, which is how the markets, the dow futures are reacting, hallie. event over there but we're keeping an eye on the business news, potential fallout. i'm here with ali velshi. >> the dow would open 700 points lower if it opened right now. it's dropping as we're speaking. >> why? >> the market didn't expect donald trump to win. they don't like things they don't expect. more seriously,
what donald trump will do as president for business. typically businesses are thought to like republicans more than democrats. historically it's not necessarily true. historically markets have not done better under republicans as they have under democrats. donald trump is talking about possibly trade wars, tough talk with our trading partners, talking about lowering taxes but a lot of people don't think he can achieve what he needs. he's talking about a deeper deficit. he says he'll reduce the deficit because under him the e said in debates. our economy is growing at about 2%. it would be near impossible to get it to 3. india struggles with 5. and china can't get to 6. these are much faster growing economies. so people don't really believe he can get there. he may seem more business friendly than hillary clinton. but there's some sense that he doesn't have the wherewithal to actually do it. this is a global
it will move into europe. the world will be the beneficiary of a president who wants to renegotiate trade deals. >> i'm sure this is a story line we'll be keeping an eye on, lester. we have some movement as we continue to watch the battle for the control of the u.s. senate. >> there was a very close race in wisconsin, russ feingold, the democrat, against ron johnson, the incumbent republican. we're reporting, chuck, that the republican ron johnson has held on. this is obviously important in terms of whether or not the deputies are going to get control of the might, again, portend about wisconsin, a state we're watching very closely, a state in the must-win column now, for hillary clinton. >> i'm trying to do my math for the senate. we've got new hampshire. republicans at 48. if they hold blunt, and if they hold, you know, toomey and ayotte here, i think they get there. and they can retain majority. right now they're
new hampshire is a total coin flip, and blunt is a coin flip. this is basically an upset. can i just tell you, the democrats did a poor job in some of their senate recruiting. they got a bunch of retreads. i never understood the decision to do this. right now, all three retreads have lost. >> evan bayh. >> evan bayh, russ feingold, ted strickland. new candidates. >> we're continuing to watch a razor-tight vote for president. we've got several states still outstanding as too close to call, including florida, michigan, nevada, north carolina recently went into the trump margin. let's go to andrea mitchell right now at the clinton headquarters where i know they reacted to that slew of clinton calls a few minutes ago. but again, we continue
some upset, considerable upset about north carolina, because of north carolina being one place where she went more than almost any place except florida. that said, their hopes now reside in michigan, in new hampshire. a lot of hope that they can pull this through in new hampshire. and also, as you were pointing out, the possibility of arizona. they need to hold wisconsin. i don't know how much of that vote, you say that milwaukee is in, but madison would if madison is indeed out, that could be the balance of power. regarding those senate raises, though, that is another huge blow. and the fact that evan bayh and ron wyden and ted strickland have not been able to capture those seats, as chuck was saying, poor recruitment. if hillary clinton wins, she will not have a stronger hand in the senate. they may get control, but they won't have what they had hoped to have.
has a chance in pennsylvania. and pennsylvania is obviously the most important firewall of them all. this is a night of great nervousness for democrats. they feel that they underestimated the strength of donald trump. and hillary did not realize the divisiodivisions, the depth of anger in white rural america, the trade issue, and the immigration issue. that could end up being a big factor in michigan. >> we've got a busload of republican primary contende underestimating donald trump. let's go to the trump headquarters right now. katy tur is standing by there. katy? >> reporter: lester, democrats are thinking they may have underestimated donald trump. look at his republican rivals who did the exact same thing. now the campaign says they're not only hopeful about michigan. they're hopeful about minnesota. they're hopeful about wisconsin. they are saying that their message, their jobs message is going to work in the upper midwest. and it now is looking
it is working a little bit. when you look at donald trump as a candidate and compare him to hillary clinton, she raised a lot of money from a lot of big donors. donald trump raised a lot of money from a lot of small donors. he's repeatedly called this a movement. and the facts bear out, this has been a movement. i have criss-crossed the country with donald trump. he's held rallies upwards of 10,000 people in almost every single state. when hillary clinton, celebrities to help her turn out large crowds, donald trump could walk in a room, he says, and own that crowd and turn out thousands of people, all on his own, without a guitar. and now we're seeing that bear out in these results that are coming in. the campaign feels extraordinarily good right now. but not only that, members of the republican party that i've been speaking to for over a year and a half now, now are suddenly feeling very good about donald trump themselves.
quite some time. and pretty recently. they're now saying they're happy to be on board. the last nine days, ten, 11, 12 days after that fbi news came out, was a real boon for donald trump. he regained ground, mostly within the republican party, because he was able to insinuate that hillary clinton mike facing indictment, allowing republicans who might have been on the fence about donald trump to come home to the party, to feel better about that vote, feel good about allowing hillary clinton to win the presidency. we don't know ultimately what sort of ramifications that announcement had. certainly the trump campaign is feeling very good right now. >> all right, katy tur. two election viewing parties hoping to be celebrations a few blocks apart here in manhattan. no one is going home from either of them. we've got a barn burner. we've got a late night.
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it's 11:16 in the east. the race to 270, 209 trump. we're putting up the states that each have won. these are the states that donald trump has so far been awarded tonight based on our projections. and here is a list of the states that hillary clinton has won. and right now she leads in the electoral count but we're watching several states right now that are still too close to call that will turn this election one way or the other. let's go to kelly o'donnell right now. one of those states is the state of wisconsin. she's at paul ryan
coasted to reelection tonight, kelly. >> reporter: lester, usually when the person whose party this is has won, spoken, and maybe even gone home, the room clears out. not tonight and not in wisconsin. there have been huge cheers here as additional developments have come out about the senate race, for example, you've been talking about that, with ron johnson, who was considered so far back, and was widely talked about as the second most vulnerable senator. and this crowd cheered loudly. this is also sort of a testament to the kind of three-person power structure in wisconsin. you've got rnc chairman reince priebus, governor scott walker, and house speaker paul ryan. they each have important organizations, they have a network of supporters. they know how to do a ground game. all of that helpful to ron johnson here. and of course making paul ryan's reelection
it could be a very interesting night in his speech here to supporters. so they're excited here about the prospects of kind of that penetrating of the industrial great lakes midwest for republicans. this is a state that many thought would easily go blue. republicans in this room are watching with great interest and feeling good about tonight, lester. >> kelly, thanks very much. let's go back to chuck todd, he's workingis i see you doing various versions of the race to 270. >> we do. to be honest, we've got a glitch with nebraska, because of the messed up split here. i believe if i leave nebraska alone, i believe it's counted in there. let me undo a few of these here. right now, let's put it this way where we think florida and georgia lean trump. minnesota leaning her. now it leaves us basically, again, pay no attention to that, so we've got new
here. you see this thing could get -- here is the scary thing. there is trump at 269. >> i know where you're going. >> exactly. there's her at 268. and she is currently probably going to win the one district in omaha there. the point is, it doesn't take much for us to end up at 269-269, if somehow he wins wisconsin, she wins michigan, and winsh you go with this, you'll have recounts maybe in the maine second district. you may have a recount in nebraska's second. 269-269 means what, nobody gets 270? then it goes to the house. >> if we were to have this conversation two hours ago, i would have said knock it off. >> i know. this is not out of the realm of possibility. apologies for the glitch here. i promise you that one does belong there.
that far away from the great virus and flaw that is in our constitution, because we have an even number of electoral votes. >> everybody is getting out their pocket constitutions. >> tom, is this a one-off or is this the state of american elections now going forward? >> i don't know yet. what i do know is that the country is more agitated than we realized. it's been going on in western democracies, brexit in england, for example, a lot of anxieties in western europe. we've been hearing, country for a long, long time, that people are very, very unhappy with how they're treated by, a, the federal government, the regulations they have to deal with. they feel like they have been overrun by social changes in america, a lot of people ow there are not happy about same-sex marriages for example, and the other changes that are going on, in the cultural part of america, and they want to speak out against it. i do think washington and those of us in the
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it's 11:22 in the east. michigan still too close to call. look at the difference, michigan suddenly looms very large tonight, down to 16,000 votes. wisconsin may also play a major role here. too early to call is what we're ac right now chuck todd is going to get closer and drill down. >> let's take a look and see what's in wisconsin. let's get us to get used to it a little bit here. one place i like to check in on, because i'm a packer fan, is brown county. as you can see here, this is -- used to be a swing county, not too long ago. trump is winning it by almost 20 points. we'll do a quick comparison here. you can see what obama did here. he barely lost green bay. this is a swing
points. but this cycle, this is just another story. green bay, a trump county at this point. let me show you here, in a big, big way. that's one reason why wisconsin is on a knife's edge. >> this is a state right now that the folks in the clinton camp say is integral to their path to victory. we'll take a short break. we continue our coverage of this very dramatic night. several races too close to call. answer to this drama for a very, very long time. we'll be back from new
and then when i announced the run, some of my opponent has 'supporters came to me and said the sheriff can't be beaten. i said never say never. i want to thank you for what you've done. we have made a statement across the nation. arizona stands for something greater. what we look like or what our beliefs are, we are all entitled to respect. >> [ cheering and applause ] >> and in that same vein, i want to 20 stand that i came from a law enforcement background and i pursued this and i want to pursue that confidence and respect because the men and women in the
>> [ cheering and applause ] >> we will no longer stand for the things that we have seen. in maricopa county sheriff's office has been identified because of the notoriety of one. you will now know a sheriff's office who is appreciated because of the sacrifices of many.>> [ cheering and applause ] i opportunity to work with those men and women because i have heard from many of them. for quite some time now, they want a chance to show you who they really are, what they really believe in and that we are all collectively part of one community.>> thank you [ cheering and applause ]. >> and i will be honored to work with them and i will call on them to have the patience and understanding to move in a new direction with new
the best of a law -- of what law enforcement can represent. >> [ cheering and applause ] >> and as a community, i'm going to calling you to work with us, to work through these times we have seen not looking back at where we are going forward. how collectively the only division we should ever really see in the community is those that commit the crime, those of us who are willing to hold them accountable. and no one is above the law. many have said today is a historic moment. we will be defined by what we do moving forward to make maricopa county the safest county in the nation. >> [ cheering and applause ]
behalf of our families and our children, seeing each other through eyes were we all have respect, where we look at the men and women in uniform who put their lives on the line for us and because we trust and have confidence in them, we appreciate it and they understand they survey grateful community. tonight, to my understanding, an officer lost his life. that is the dark and difficult those of the moments we must recognize the sacrifice that comes with appreciating the men and women who do the job. at the same time, those men and women will show appreciation for this community that stands with them. we look forward to serving as
it's an honor beyond words i can express tonight. i wanted to thank you again. i wanted to thank stephen and john from the party who worked tirelessly with their staff and volunteers throughout the community. i wanted to thank my staff, who from day one, you could see the glimmer in their eyes. they knew we're going to accomplish it. there was never doubt in and our two boys here are grown men. my wife and i talked about this. i want you to hear these words, please. when i became an officer, i saw a man who i felt defined integrity and ethics and professionalism and that's what inspired me. my wife and i spoke about the difference right now because the challenges we face, we want our sons to see law enforcement
they know that law enforcement is there to care for them while holding them accountable and that collectively we are one in the same. that's why i took on this fight but let me tell you, i am a blessed man because the family i have and my strong wife veronica. >> [ cheering and applause ] >> for those of you who don't know, my wife is a big fan of the rocky movies. we were at home one night before this she said honey, you have got to finish what you started.>> [ cheering and applause ] >> and then she shared these wise words of mean. she said don't forget, in rocky two, the good guy wins.>> [ cheering and applause ] so i have to say it, just like rocky did, veronica, we did it. thank you.
>> and there you have it, folks. paul penzone officially accepting his new job title, the brand-new sheriff elect of maricopa county again putting an effective end to the reign of joe arpaio, who is going -- was going for his seventh term but this time around, it was not to be. >> and he wants to restor respect, transparency and law- enforcement and he wants an offices -- office that is appreciated and respected. >> this may be one of the few bright spots tonight for the democratic party. on a national basis, it has not been a good night. hillary clinton, who everyone expected, if you looked at the polls going in, and now we know what the polls are worth, now we know what the polls are
hillary clinton would win. it appears, and things could change, it could change, but that donald trump has a road to the white house. >> reporter: paul penzone is talking to well-wishers. i have to ask, has sheriff arpaio called you to concede? >> we haven't spoken but i've been busy. i have no idea to be honest. >> so you are not waiting for him to call? >> these people have worked hard and i have a job to do. we have to be strong bond -- on issues that affect our safety. we're going to enjoy the opportunity to start new and become an innovative law- enforcement agency. >> reporter: did you ever see this day coming? you worked really hard in 2012.
did you see this day coming? >> 2012, we felt like it was the longshot. it would have taken a miracle to do it. this time around, it felt different. the energy was much different. we knew we had worked to do and we had to earn it but that it was possible. >> -->> reporter: what made you succeed? how did you win this time? >> there is so many factors involved, everything from what we were disappointed in from the incumbent to the direction we wanted to go and we just had a chance to speak with people and share who i stand for. in law enforcement and my career was about service. being able to have that conversation with all different political affiliations i think was important. >> reporter: you are winning by about 10 points. do you know sheriff arpaio has diehard supporters? what is your message to them? >> i just look for the opportunity to serve you. i understand you had a man that you believed in that serve you in a way you were proud of. there are a lot of good men and women in law enforcement to make sacrifices.
leads that organization so that everyone can be proud of it. just show patience and give me the opportunity and work with me. >> reporter: has it sunk in how significant this victory is? how long the latinos in this community have been trying to get sheriff arpaio out of office? what does that mean to you?>> i just think it's a reflection of law enforcement across the board for the good men and women you never hear of, police chiefs and sheriffs across the country, do a phenomenal job. it just so happens that our sheriff notoriety and embraced it for the hispanic community and other communities that suffered in some capacity. it's time for us to get back to a principled, professional, just law-enforcement. a community, for lack of a better description. that's where i have to work hard to earn that and lead by example. >> reporter: last question. what is the feeling like right now? what are you feeling? >> i came from a private event with some family and friends
until this was a done deal. i wanted to appreciate the moment that i was in, just like this. it has inside-in for me but i am so grateful for what is going on. >> reporter: you felt that love. what did that feel like?>> this is amazing. i am at a loss of words. >> reporter: -- >> i don't know if it's nerves really, just enjoying the moment. >> reporter: sheriff select -- sheriff elect paul penzone. to you. today we made history. >> i'm not content with either candidate. >> i'm not really happy with either one. >> i am is grateful to you tonight has there was when you
wanted. >> it was great. it was paying off. out the door. we get a new sheriff.>> some of my opponent supporters came to me and said the sheriff can't be beaten. i said never say never. 12news at 10:00 starts right now. >> good evening everyone. 12news at 10:00 starts right now and its decision 2016 for the first time since 1996. arizona could turn blue tonight. >> what a night it has been. our 12news political team is spread across the valley ready to bring you live results on all of the major races. >> let's take a look at the numbers. here is what we know so far. a lot of people have been keeping their eyes on the big national race. donald trump right now, leading hillary clinton. there are still a few states to go but at this point, donald trump i can tell you has 238 electoral votes to clinton's 209. the path to the white house could be tough for clinton at this point. you just saw sheriff elect
he has ended joe arpaio's long run as maricopa county sheriff. >> as we move forward in these races, a lot of decisions tonight. state proposition 205, legalizing recreational marijuana here in arizona. right now, then no vote is coming out on top. 53%. the yes vote, 47%. 56% of precincts reporting. we now want to go to proposition 206. we've got 60% voting yes to raise the arizona minimum wage. that looks like that will be the final vote. >> as we continue here in decision night 2016, america decides for district 1 in the house of representatives. democrat tom l how -- democrat tom o republican paul w, the sheriff
>> it really is interesting in a lot of ways as we look at these results. arizona has turned blue, not for president but in a lot of other ways. that has certainly been the case. it stayed red for senator john mccain winning tonight over ann kirkpatrick. it was expected to be his toughest race ever and this one was called early because of all the early ballots that had been collect it and read. that was called me before the precincts had even called it. >> tonight in arizona. possibly, the most important race in our state tonight was that race for maricopa county sheriff between joe arpaio and paul penzone. as you saw, arpaio has lost tonight. joe dana is joining us live right now from gop headquarters. joe, what is the muted right now. >> reporter: you just mentioned it is possibly the most
people. we haven't seen him yet. whether or not he will offer a concession speech or a message to supporters, we don't know but out in the crowd, there are several sheriff's deputies scattered for security. they represent a few thousand who will have a new boss beginning next year. we asked county attorney bill montgomery, who is projected to win his own seat as county attorney, how it will be to work with a new sheriff.>> you know, my job as a county attorney is to work with other county elected officials and that is distinguished upon their party affiliation. as i said before, as long as i have a county sheriff willing to uphold their office and carry out there duties and responsibilities to contribute to public safety, then we are going to have a good time working together because that's
>> reporter: and i've done three of these elections and three of these watch parties with republicans. the media savvy sheriff, joe arpaio, has always made sure he is live at the podium at 10:00 for these newscasts. of course, it is a very different election this time around for him. if it does show up, we will make sure to bring him to you. >> something that joe arpaio has never gone through and that is losing a race for maricopa county sheriff. brahm resnik is standing by with reaction from the penzone penzone with me a few moments ago. an interview with the sheriff elect. he told us -- >> you were a part of that. i know you all knocked doors. >> the only division we should ever see in the community is those that commit the crime and those of us who are willing to