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france, those were the first -- the americans should care just as much about what happens in beirut. >> the dysfunction. scott: what could that mean in the fight against terror? >> they could fifi a safe haven in some placesesn lebanon and act with impunity and try to recruit more youngsters, brainwash them, push them to commit more suicidal attacks. scott: a lebanese politicic analyst and activist said if this sounds familiar, it should. the so-called arab spring that began five years ago was bouldering austin is him -- optimism from tunisia to libya to egypt, denouncing leaders like gaddafi and mohamed morsi. withououstructures to build on,
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for a worldwide terror caliphate. some fear lebanon is next. >> the u.s. has a major role in stabilizing the country. it is not moving forward. the actual administration is basically moving t t way from the region. syria has a vacuum. yemen is a vacuum. libya is a vacuum. iraq is a vacuum. we have four countries that cease to exist. scott: even in a place like beirut, where thth have learned to livivwith war for a very long time, what is happening right now is a new and worrisome challenge. >> if the ited states does not intervene, will lebanon be overtaken? >> you understand what i mean when i say the united states --
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all arab countries of the world -- the united states can stop the war. scott: it is not exactly a linchpin holding the region together, but lebanon and its clear path between area -- s sia and d e mediterranean sea a a strategic partner. the u.s. has sent hundds of millions of dollars to the lebanese. >> most of our assistance and equipment is american, our training is american. we are dependent on american aid to sustain most equipment. scott: just as lebanon relies on the u.s., beirut has something to offer. >> what we can help with is human intelligence. the lebanesermy and the internal security forces have people who are detained. there was a possible suicide bomber who was detained in tripoli. scott: it is not the firststime america has invested weapons and
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this, 32 years ago, was the sight of the deadliest attack against u.s. marines since iwo jima when has below militants set off a truck bomb at the marine barracks, killing 241 americans. u.s. forces, about five months later, withdrew from that peacekeeping mission and the fighghng continued for another seven years. more than one hundred thousand people died in that conflict. sharyl: is anyone suggesting the u.s. put troops back into lebanon to protect the border from isis? scott: no, despite the heavy fighting, they are holding strong. nevertheless, the white house said it is sending more resources to lebanon. we can only imagine that means more money and weapons. sharyl: interesting. thank you, scott thuman. in the days following the attacks, concern and rhetoric turned to the issue of refugees. in october, we reported on the potential for isis terrorists to travel into europe posing as refugees. this week, the majority of u.s. states have said they will not allow refugees from syria into their borders due to security
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concerns. but are syrian refugees the largest threat when it comes to isis infiltrators? jim hansen is with the center for security policy, a former member of u.s. army special forces, and author of "cut down the black flag: a plan to defeat the islamic state." in terms of threats, i know that border patqol agents and fbi agents are very concerned about the southern border. jim: we have essentially got an unlocked, open door, and welcome mat down there. if i'm an isis guy who wants to come to the united states and wreak some havoc, i can go through the fbi screening that is not good enough, or i could walk in and talk to nobody. if i'm looking at that, i know which one is the easier of the two and that should scare americans. there is no security down there. sharyl: are there current threats because of that and other factors that exist in the united states? we hear about pockets of
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radicalized. jim: if you look at minneapolis, dearborn have large muslim migrant populations that have not assimilated and then you look at boston, the brothers who blew up the boston marathon and killed a bunch of americans, came in as kids of asylumees. they were not refugees, but pretty close to the same thing. they went to a mosque in the boston area that had 12 jihadis associated with it. people who have been arrested for terror financing or actually killed americans in terror acts. sharyl: i think if you asked people what is our policy, w wt is our strategy, they would not be very clear on it. things seem to be evolving. what would you say it is? jim: i would say president obama is not very clear on our strategy to have one that he looks like he wants to win. at this point, he seems like he seems perfectly ok with kicking the can down the road. and letting somebody else dealing with. vladimir putin is in town and now the french are actually leading from the front and bombing a bunch of t tgets that,
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for some reason, we could not find for the previous weeks? those fuel trucks were there, those command-and-control centers re there, we did not have the will to hit them. sharyl: thanks, jim hansen. appreciate it. coming up next on "full measure," this woman says fighting fires was easier than
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sharyl: aqim abdelhamid abaaoud sharyl: alicia dabneyey for to get one of the toughest jobs as a firefighter with the u.s. forest service. this report includes some strong alicia: i was really lost and upset at what i had done and the fact that i had committed a crime and what i had done to my family. sharyl: alicia dabney's crime was welflfe fraud. she was a young mother of three living on an indian reservation and caring for her husband, who had been seriously injured in a suicide attempt. when she went back to work, she got caught collecting welfare he was no longer entitled to. she pled guilty and focused on a plan to pay the money back. alicia: firefighters work hard, thth make good money. i have always wanted to be one. i'm going to sign up and push through it.
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sharyl: in 2010, she landed her dream job as a firefighter with the forest service under the u.s. department of agriculture. working fires like this one in new mexico, she was prepared for life or death situations. but she was unprepared for e hostility she faced back at the station icalifornia are 35 covering 20 million acres in the pacific southwest. alicia: there were three females. within a month, one had quit, one was ran out. pretty soon, it was only me. they started t tturing me. this frat boy attitude and the bullying and being humiliated, being called fat, also being called a horror. it just wrote me up the wall. i could not take it. sharyl: do you think they were trying to be playful?
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sharyl: she did not know what then, but they all had sorted histories of civil rights violations and discrimination dating back decades. corrective actions did not prevent her from getting singled out as a mexican, native american, and a woman. alicia: he had to force me to tell me -- to tell him when i started my menstrual period. sharyl: how did yououeport this? alicia: every month, i would go in there and i would cover my face with my hands and say, i started my period. i would be humiliated. sharyl: why do you think he was doing that? alicia: i don't know his motive other than i think he is sick, to be honest. sharyl: she launched multiple equal opportunity employment aims and complained d the office of special counsel. and to the inspector general. she alleged that on the road, she was forced to urinate in view of her male colleagues, that they got opportunities she was denied, that a supervisor once sat and bounced on her neck when she was bent over. she sasaid the offenders were
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sometimes disciplined, but not fired, and the bullying got worse. in early 2011, she attended a firefighter trainingngonference where phone numbers were given out on a list. alicia: in the middle of the night, i get a phone call. sharyl: she saved e recorded message. >> alicia, it is me. i'm ready to go. i'm in room 203. i'm totolly reready, baby girl. give me a callll back. i hope you are all wet like im, baby girl. alicia: you could he a ton of guys laughing in the background. it is some type of ha ha ha. i don't know. not like this guy like to me and wanted to edhang out with me. he was trying to humiliate me, of course. sharyl: when you hear alicia dabney's story, what is your opinion? >> the management infrastructure
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sharyl: michael mccray experienced this first hd of the u.s. department of agriculture. he exposed fraud worth millions of tax dollars in a program for poor communities. >> forged checks. outrageous stuff. wewended up going to the oig, the inspector general. we notified the president of the commission. sharyl: instead of help,sa he says he got targeted for being a minority who also blew the whistle and lost his job. in 1995, he began filing a series of discrimination and retaliation claims, which by law must be investigated within 6 months. what was the outcome of your complaint? michael: my complaint has never been processed to completion. sharyl: from the 1990's? michael: from the 1990's. i had testimony, corroboration, documentation. i had a case that should not have taken 20 minutes and it has taken 20 years. sharyl: how big is this problem
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civil rights complaint? michael: it is tremendous. sharyl: in 2009, agriculture secrety tom bill sack acknowledged there were 3000 languishing civil rights complaints at usda and promised to change the culture. >> among the most intractable challenges facing the new secretary of agriculture is the intolerable and inexcusable state of civil rights in usda's agricultural programs and for usda employees. discriminationn any form will not be tolerated in this department. sharyl: bubut two years after that testimony, dabney says her situation was tolerated. a coalition of minority employees provided the director with -- the secretary with accounts from minorities and they even tried writing his wife, mrs. obama, and others.
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the coalition said administration officials promised help, but the abuses continued. just a few months later came with dabney says was her lowest point with t t forest service, in august 2011. she was attending a training conference when a supervisor asked to borrow work supplies at the hotel. alicia: i knocked on the door and he opens it and he just grabs me in a chokehold and flings me on the bed. i'm literally just scared. i did not know what he was doing. he starts to say, leles just cucule, let's hang out, let's together. i was like, noou are my boss, please don't do this right now. he just kept getting tighter and tighter. i started saying please, please don't do this to me right now. i had to talk him down, reminding him, you're my boss, you don't want to do this to be right now, please let go of me. when i started cryryg, he finally let go of me.
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sharyl: she says she reported the incident to her supervisor and multiple investigative bodies, but suffered more reprisal. it turns out the problems with discrimination complaints go to high levels of the department of agriculture. that is according to a recent investation by a federal watchdog agency, the office of special counsel. it found hundrdrs of claims filed against seseor managers in the very division that is supposed to enforce civil rights laws. the department of agriculture office of the assistant secretary for civil rights. what is more, from 2010 through 2013, 81% of complaints filed against usda senior managers were not acted on in a timely manner. the usda told us it has fixed that particular problem. the obama administration denied our interview request, but they said the agency inrited serious issues. over the past six years, we have corrected errors, learn from mistakes, and charted a stronger path for the future where all
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dignity and respect. mcray has filed a class-action lawsuit on behalf f the 3000 people whose discrimination claims remained unprocessed in 2009. michael: there is no accountability. even in cases where discrimination has been proven. if you are a manager, you don't even have to pay for your defense. th are going to be the agency attorneys that are going to be your attorneys. sharyl: if there are any fines? alicia:michael: the justice department pays. sharyl: so the taxpayer pays. michael: absolutely. view, there is zero accountability and zero cost. department of agriculture admitted no fault but paid her a confidential settlement that includes -- included the alleged hotel assault with the condition she never work there again. michael: i t tnk it is especially corrosiveveor somemedy like alicia dabney, who way.
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desk job. people are playing with you and you are out fighting fires, you can die. alicia: i don't know how to get justice other than letting america know, letting people know that this is what happened to me but it does not have to happen to others. sharyl: : e has repaid the monon she stste from the welfare f fud and a judge wiped the convtion from a record. she still lives on the indian reservation with her husband and three children and is unemployed.
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sharyl: terrorism and the islamic state are the most important issues facing the country right now according to the latest bloomberg national politics poll after the paris terror attacks. national security is also dominating talk on the campaign
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trail. in case you missed it, our "campaign incredible" brings you the week in about 60 seconds. >> that is what this is about. is is the war of our time. >> we have got to be calm, but not stupid. >> as president, i would give the mission to the pentagon and ask them what they need to accomplish the mission. >> they could be isis, they could be anybody. what is our president doing? is he insane? >> folks wt to pop off and have opinions about whatat they think k ey would do, present specifif plan. >> mr. president, you want to insult me, you can do it overseas, you can do it in turkey, in foreign countries. mr. president, come back and insult me to my face. >> we cannot act as though we arshutting the doors to people in need without undermining who we are as americans and the
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values we have stood up for. sharyl: it is "follow the money." if the antics on the campaign trail are not alien enough for you, how about this? our government is using our tax dollars to pay for foreign kids to attend u.s. space camp. senator paul: we spent $2,000 last year inviting 24 kids from pakistan to go to space e mp in alabama. we borrow money from china to send it to pakistan. it is crazy, it is ridiculous, and should stop. sharyl: senator rand paul went ballistic over a state department program to pay for pakistani students to pay for cash to attend -- to attend space camp to promote their english language skills. since in space no one can hear you scream or speak english, it -- the paid it to her included a trip to dollywo and a visit to the nation's capital. that was just one example of what he says is an astronomical waste of your tax money.
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sen. paul: we spent $300,000 last year studying whether or not japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous on cocaine. we spent $700,000 studying -- s seral hundred thousanan dollars studying w wther or not we can relieve stress in vietnamese villagers by having them wch american television reruns. sharyl: senator rand paul is a frequent critic of government waste and his website publishes a waste report dedicated to exposing outrageous government spending. still ahead, taking a stand
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a walk in the park. sharyl: in these last dozen days, we have seen new h hrors and are facing the r rurring feararof new terror threatat many people are showing strengng and even defiance. sharyl: in london, la marseillaise became the national anthem for a night at a soccer match that showed no rivalries. in washington, being a tourist meant making a stand after a threat by isis to strike at the capital. >> we have got to let the whole world know that we are going to walk as free people. no matter what anynye tries to do. being afraid is whathey want. it is not going to put me off. coming to the wonderful land of america, the land of a free. >> why but i be terrorized? i'm here. i am free. whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
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god is going to order my steps. i'm not going to worry about it. i'm m t going to worry about those e t jobs. sharyl: thanks for watching. that's it for this week. i'm sharyl attkisson. until next time, we will be searching for more stories that
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i'm chris wallace. terror attacks around the world renew post-9/11 fears about whether it could happen here. >> our highest priority is and will remain the security of our homeland and safety of all
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>> we will not be intimidated, and we will not live in fear. plus the intense debate in washington over accepting syrian refugeeses >> appapantly they'reecared of widows and orphans. >> if you just get one or two or three wrong, you've got a big problem. we'll talk with republican presidential candidate senator marco rubio about what he would do if he were commander in chief. then conservative radio talk show host rush limbaugh in a rare television interview. it's a "fox news sunday" xclusive interview. and the first "fox news sunday" international poll since the attack in paris. our sunday group weighs in on how the focus on security will reshape the presidential race. and "power player of the week." >> i talked about how i would
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tell my family. all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. a week after the paris terror attacks, the still radio el mains eye high alert. in belgium, they raised the terror alert in the capital of brussels to its highest level, warning of an imminent threat. in malli, security forces are reportedly hunting for more than three suspects in the deadly hotel attack. greg kalkot is live in paris. greg? >> authorities in brussels are now saying they are worried about a paris-style terror attack there. that is why, for the second day running, the belgians capital is on lockdown. troops and armored vehiclesesre out in force. the city's subways, malls andnd other places are off-limits,
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