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we offer expertise and tailored solutions in a wide range of injuries. what can we -- of industries. what can we do for you? >> and now, "bbc world news america.">> i am katty kay. protesters packed cairo once again, but president morsi says he will not step down, and called for the military to remove its ultimatum. a disturbing turn in serious civil war. imposingradicals are sharia law in rebel-held areas, and the consequences are brutal. former first lady laura bush sits down with the bbc to answer when there might be a madame president in the u.s. might have somebody who runs next time.

[laughter] >> welcome to our viewers on public television in america, and around the globe. tonight, the streets of cairo are packed with antigovernment protesters and supporters of president mohamed morsi. the competing rallies come on the eve of a military ultimatum for morsi to solve the standup, or it will intervene. on twitter, president morsi has said he will not step down, and he has called on the army to with draw that demand. middle east editor jeremy bird starts our coverage from cairo. >> these are true believers in the president, in the muslim brotherhood, and in the protection of god. this was a rally supporting

president morsi at cairo university, but there were others elsewhere in the city and across the country. the brotherhood can turn out big crowds. some young men with martyrdom on their minds brandished burial shrouds. the muslim brotherhood says violence should play no part in what is happening. the people, it says, are free to express themselves however they like. the brotherhood has been working toward the power it has now since it was founded in 1928. the plaza outside the university shook with their determination not to let the army take it away. >> there are civilians in the streets. you cannot shoot the people. you must listen to the voices of support. think the army threats to intervene are effectively a coup?

did a very [indiscernible] >> president morsi needs these supporters. his government is crumbling. at least six ministers have resigned, with rumors of more leaving before the army ultimatum expires. even his spokesmen have gone. in government, the muslim brotherhood has been inexperienced, and at times, incompetent. but here on the streets, it is a well organized and tenacious group. removing it from power is not going to be easy, whoever wants to do it. protests were everywhere in cairo today, and the armed forces released pictures of anti-morsi crowds in sunday's huge marches, taken from its helicopters. these images must have contributed to the decision of

the generals to intervene. on one street, they believe the army is their last hope. the street leads to tahrir square. demonstrators were passing through this morning, as they have so many times before. like the whole country, they have been hit badly by economic collapse and political chaos since the old regime went in 2011. security walls protect government buildings from clashes that happen. locals say the walls have put many shops out of his miss. at a café, like so many others, wind president morsi. he is responsible for everything that has gone wrong. fuel was available under mubarak. now, there is no food. we cannot find jobs. people are afraid to go out. there is theft and rape

everywhere. off withyou be better a man like mubarak? >> yes. i think yes. >> yes, mubarak. we were safe them. tahrir square was full again with anti-morsi protesters. they know the army is talking to the government, but they are determined that, however it happens, morsi must go. >> we are getting news from egyptian state television that president morsi is expected to address the nation shortly. for more on events unfolding in cairo, i spoke to jeremy in tahrir square moments ago. the crowd seem to be in a good mood. how will they respond to the news from president morsi that he has no plans to step down? >> they are excited, and apprehensive as well, about what might be happening tomorrow.

other there have been big demonstrations organized by the muslim brotherhood. they are capable of putting big numbers out on the streets as well, and that is bolstering their position right now. negotiations are going on between the army, the president, and the government. he has lost at least six ministers to resignation, and rumors of more to come. , onhe last half-hour or so twitter, president morsi has said -- he put out an appeal, asking for the army to withdraw its ultimatum. he has also said they will not be date rated to buy internal or external forces. it looks like they are pretty far apart. >> would anything short of morsi going satisfy those people in the square behind you? >> i do not think so, and that is what makes it so hard to

conceive of some kind of a negotiated deal before the military deadline runs out. you never know. they are talking. something might happen. but the people here say that morsi must go, and they will stay here until he leaves. they can put millions of people on the streets. on the other side, there is the muslim brotherhood and president morsi, saying they are legitimately elected. they have been working for the power they have now since they were founded in 1928. it is not something they want to give up lightly. there is a massive gulf between them. the army has not said exactly what they want to do. there have been reports from reuters news agency that one of their plans if -- is to defend the constitution, which is controversial, because there is a lot of religious law in it.

i think besides our way apart, and there is the army in between them. i think things will happen tomorrow. >> people are still out there with the fireworks in tahrir square. thank you, jeremy. resident morsi has started speaking on egyptian television. he is addressing the nation. as soon as we get the translation of what he is saying, you can see him there. ,resident morsi right now, live addressing the egyptian population about protests. we will bring you the information as soon as we get it. in syria, 2.5 years after the civil war started, the head of the united nations expressed fears that 2.5 thousand civilians are trapped in the city of homs, with fighting all around them. growing concerns that islamic radicals are gaining a stronger foothold, and using sharia courts to enforce laws in rebel held areas. the bbc has a special report from aleppo.

i must warn you that some of the images are distressing. 14-year-oldhere mohammed lost his life. bear tohers can hardly work at the family coffee stand any longer. mohammed had been asked for a free cup. not even if the prophet himself returns, he said, laughing. that remark was a death sentence. the family apartment, they tell us more about a killing that symbolizes what has gone wrong with serious revolution. syria's revolution. armed men overheard mohammed. his mother saw everything. there were three of them. , whoever insults the profit will be killed, she recalls.

she goes on. first shot. iran out barefoot. i fell to the ground. they shot him again, and kicked him. i looked at them and said, why are you killing him? he is just a child. i looked right at the killer, said mohammed's killer -- mohammed's father. he looked at me. the men have not been caught. religious authorities say their actions were un-islamic, criminal. we are approaching the spot where mohammed was murdered. it is quite busy. was quiteounts, there a crowd when he was shot and killed, but everyone felt too terrified to intervene. he was shot in the middle of the street, here. lots of witnesses, but the man who did it showed no fear of

being caught. their actions have been condemned. but most of the armed groups are islamist in character, and they are starting to use their influence to impose sharia law. a northername in town. the war has drawn in jihadists, foreign and domestic. they fight for god, not democracy. , like -- menkman like an islamic cleric oversee a sharia court. bbc arabic filmed the court over more than a month. four men have been convicted of highway robbery. he tried to steal a taxi driver 's car. lectures him in the name of the prophet. the men have told him they are

rebel fighters. their weapons will be confiscated. the sentence will be carried out in public. islamists are stepping into the vacuum left after 40 years of secular dictatorship. the instrument of punishment is an electrical cable. it is 50 lashes for the leader of the gang, 40 for each of his man, said the sheet. -- sheik. god's law is the best protection weak, he tells the crowd. when it starts, some of the crowd chants, the prophet is our leader. others just count the lashes. may appall secular activists. , conservative, religious supporters like it, and those

upset by the epidemic of looting. increasingly, this may be the future of justice in rebel-held parts of syria. bbc news, aleppo. >> a pretty gruesome form of justice. in arizona, firefighters continued to battle a blaze which killed 19 of their colleagues on sunday. last night, more than 1000 people gathered for an emotional memorial. the fire is still out of control, fueled by searing temperatures and dangerous winds. david shukman has the latest. rush to escape. we have just been given this mobile phone video. it was filmed as the inferno closed in on sunday. >> that is a house fire. >> bernard, who got out just in time, told me how he captured the moment his home town was destroyed. >> the entire town is on fire.

>> it just spreads. outirst, the blaze pick individual houses. he turned his home to reveal the nightmare of how much was engulfed by flames. nothing could stop it. >> i got my family out and watched house after house explode. we solve 40 cars and propane tanks explode. barbecues were exploding. son and i stayed until dark and watched dozens of houses burned to the ground. 19a memorial service for firefighters caught by the flames. it is a devastating loss. just before he died, one for them sent his wife this pic sure, showing the team on their way toward the fire that was to claim their lives. >> it was out of the ordinary, because he said, this is getting wild.

people are looking to burn. usually, he gets a thrill from the fire, from being there and helping. this was a different scenario. >> why did this happen? one cause is the jetstream, passing far to the north of the united states. the result is high pressure, causing record-breaking temperatures. the southwest u.s. has warmed since the 1950's. fire season is two months longer than it was 30 years ago, and the population of arizona has gone up. more people living in tinderbox conditions. there is so much deadwood around, and dried grass. all it takes is one lightning strike, and this whole lot can go up. add to that the wind, which keeps changing direction. there is a recipe for disaster. at the fire station where the 19 firefighters are based,

tributes have been pouring in. everyone here feels the loss. because this community is theyunded i drive forest, also understand the dangers. bbc news in arizona. >> a sad and still-dangerous time in arizona. south africa, awaits news of nelson mandela. a family feud over his final resting place lays out in court. nine in the transit area of the moscow airport for edward snowden, and his options are narrowing. >> he has been lost in transit for nine days now. edward snowden is reportedly still stuck at moscow airport, unable to officially enter russia or continue his journey.

in russia, he has been dubbed the invisible man, because no one has seen him. today, the 30-year-old american broke his silence. wikileaks issued a statement attributed to him, slamming america. after promising not to do so, he wrote, president obama ordered his vice president to pressure the leaders of nations from which i have requested a texan to deny my asylum requests. he had asked her russia for asylum, but is said to have committed applications to at least 14 other countries. so far, no one has agreed to take him in, and that includes venezuela. the president, in moscow today for talks with vladimir putin, has praised him, but will he take mr. snowden back home to caracas?

no, the president said. all i am taking back with me are oil and gas deals. the snowden saga has more twists and turns down the corridors of the kremlin. where will he go next? when will he leave? he simply do not know. the russians have made clear they have no intention of handing him over to the united states. bbc news, moscow. >> tonight, nelson mandela remains in critical but stable condition. but there is a row between members of his family about where he should one day be buried, which has grown increasingly ugly. there are allegations of grave tampering and racketeering. allegations have been brought

by the family against a grandson. >> nelson mandela was born in these hills and will be buried here. but where exactly? he has always insisted his grave should be here, in the village he grew up, and where he retired until his health crumbled. is causing grandson tensions in an already fractious family. he recently exhumed the bodies of three of nelson mandela have children, and moved them to this nearby village. he is now chief here. he has built a huge complex in honor of his grandfather. the suspicion is that he wants his grave here in order to attract more tourists. opposition is growing. >> it was totally wrong for him to move their bones.

according to our culture and tradition, you cannot just take a decision unilaterally. >> with nelson mandela in hospital, the rest of his family sent lawyers to try to force a return of the graves. the police opened a criminal case. his close relatives are modern and cosmopolitan, that across south africa, and rural communities, old traditions and beliefs remain in force. this uncomfortable dispute about the graves is being taken extremely seriously by all concerned. some worry that the row is affecting nelson mandela's own condition. >> it is believed that an elderly member of the family, or any member of the family, would not have a smooth transition in their life to the was stillif there

some dispute or discord in the family. >> so you can see the urgency for the family. >> the fierce urgency of the moment cannot be over emphasized. toward the end of a dignified over and unseemly quarrel tradition, family, and power. a great man and a fractio family. also in africa, president obama and his family finished their weeklong tour, and departed from tanzania, but not before michelle obama joined laura bush in opening the african first ladies summit, an event focused on empowering women across the continent. my colleague sat down with mrs. bush, and started by asking her about the bond between the first ladies. >> always glad to meet with each other. we know what it is like, all

the first ladies sitting on the front row today, including cherie blair, from england. haveow what it is like to your husband the president. there is a certain sorority or club, i think. we have a lot of things we can talk about together that no one else really would understand. >> i sometimes wonder if perhaps because you are a mother, you believe you have a unique connection to the women. >> maybe i feel a connection with women everywhere, but certainly here. we traveled here several times when george was president with our girls. our daughter barbara was so overwhelmed and so moved by what she saw on the very first trip, when we launched cap far -- she went2003, that back to her university and took the course they had on aid, and has founded a nonprofit.

>> there are many organizations engaged in the continent, many with a lot of goodwill. how do you measure the progress? >> we can measure it in terms of lives saved. a disease was about to destroy a whole generation. it was a terrible pandemic across the world that affected so many africans. isi wonder if you think it important to empower young african women to aspire to public office >> it is, absolutely, and young american women. we have not had a female president yet. we have had three female secretaries of state, which is great. >> is it overdue in america? >> it is. women are slow to run in the united states. i am not sure why. from the outside, it is not look like that much fun to be criticized, and women are often criticized for the way they look. we do not to size our male

politicians so much for the way they look. -- criticize our men politicians for the way they look. >> how long? >> we will see. we might have somebody who runs next time. [laughter] >> laura bush on the tricky politics of 2016. protests in egypt. in a nationally televised address, mohamed morsi says he will not step down from office. he has called on the military to remove the ultimatum that it will intervene tomorrow if there is not a resolution. he reminded egyptian's that he is the first democratically that theresident, and country should avoid civil strife by adhering to the constitution. he says egypt has many challenges ahead, and it takes time to address the corruption of the old regime. he says that egypt belongs to

all. he is not hungry for the position. thanks for watching. tune in tomorrow. >> make sense of international news. >> funding of this presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu, newman's own foundation, giving all profits to charity and pursuing the common good for over 30 years, and union bank. >> at union bank, our relationship managers work hard to understand the industry you operate in, working to nurture new ventures and help provide capital for key strategic decisions.

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macneil/lehrer productions >> woodruff: hundreds of thousands of opposition protesters packed cairo's tahrir square for the third day in a row, again calling for egyptian president morsi's ouster, and more high-level officials left his cabinet. good evening. i'm judy woodruff. >> ifill: and i'm gwen ifill. on the newshour tonight, we get the latest on the turmoil, as the clock ticks down on the military's deadline for resolving the standoff. >> woodruff: then, with the deadly fire in arizona continuing to burn out of control, we examine whether hotter temperatures and drier conditions are fueling the flames nationwide. >> ifill: ray suarez has the story of newly released documents revealing how the milwaukee archdiocese dealt with dozens of catholic priests