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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away. on the newshour tonight: a final farewell. in his adopted home of texas, president george h.w. bush is laid to rest beside his wife and daughter. en, tensions rising. u.s. markets swing wildly after the arrest of a major chinece telecom exive, complicating already-contentious trade talks with beijing. plus, "the future of work." trucking reaches a crossroads beoreen the current demand f drivers due to online retail, and the looming possibility of automated shipping. >> you're still going to need an operator, like a train needs a conductor. we've already logged 23 million toles. i mean, there are mous trucks on the road right now. >> nawaz: all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour.
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and individuals. >> this program was made possible by the corporation forl broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> nawaz: the 41st president of the united states has reached his final resting place tonight, culmating a life story of 94 years. george herbert walker bush was buried today, after a journey by train from a final funeral. ♪ ♪ some 1,200 mourners gathered at the bush family's houston church, st. martin's episcopal, after three days of memorial events in washington. mr. bush's former secretary of state, james baker, reflected on
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e man he knew for decades as both friend and leader. >> i've always been proud that george bush used to describe ou relationshipe of big brother and little brother. he used to say that one of the things he liked best ae was that i would always tell him what i thoughteven when i knew didn't want to hear it. but he had a very effective way of letting me know when the discussion wasver. he would look at me and he'd say, "baker, if you'reo smart, why am i president and you're not?" ( laughter ) >> nawaz: mr. bush's grandson, texas land commissioner george p. bush, recalled not a statesman, but a grandfather. >> today i stand before you as g the oldendson of the man i simply knew as gampy. george herbert walker bush was the most gracious, most decent, most humble mathat i will ever know. >> nawaz: one of the president's farite country groups, the oak ridge boys, performed an
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a capella version of "amazing grace." ♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound ♪ that saved a wretch like me ♪ >> nawaz: and, after more than an hour, the service ended with "battle hymn of the republic"... ♪ ♪ >> nawaz: ...before the flag- draped casket was carried from the church. the 41st predent, accompanied t family and friends, then traveled 70 milerain, past crowds of well-wisherta to college son, texas, and his final resting place on the grounds of hli presidential ary. mr. bush was buried during a private service, alongside his late wife, barbara, and daughter robin, who died of leukemia as a child. in the day's other news, wall street took a wild ride
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after the arrestf a chinese tech executive sparked doubts about a possible trade deal with china. then came a rally on reports that the federal reserve might hold off on raising interest rates. the dow jones industrial average lost 79 points, after being down 7.0 earlier. it closed at 24, the nasdaq rose 29 points, and the s&p 500 slipped four. we'll take a closer look at the tensions with china, after the news summary. the trump administration today called for rolling backa- oba mandates that make new, coal-burning plants emit less carbon. the obama rules requirplants to install new technology or burn natural gas, which gives off lessarbon. the trump proposal could ease the way for building more coal- it's the latest in a series of steps to relax emissions rules.n ustralia, an appeals court overturned a former cath'sic archbishonviction for concealing child sexual abuse. the court ruled prosecutors failed to prove that phili wilson covered up crimes by a
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pedophile priest in the 1970s. he had been the highest-ranking catholic cleric to be found guilty in the long-runscng, internatandal. abuse victims said tight is not over. >> those people have stood up to the might and the money of the catholic church, and they've eeply hurt by this decision. if the catholic church this that people like me and lots and lots of other survivors of child abuse are going to be set back by this, then we've got news for them, because i'm not going anywhere. >> nawaz: wilson is 68ears old. he had already served four months of a year-long sentence in home detention.. at least one urine is dead, and five missing after two military planes crashed off japan early today. e marine corps says the fighter jet and the refueling tanker collided some 200 miles from hiroshima, during night- time training. one crew member survived. search and rescue operations continue for the missing. back in this countryw round of rain and snow hit
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southern california. near los angeles, a southwest airlines plane skidded o a runway, amid heavy rain. no one was injured. the storm also triggered flooding and mudslides in the los angeles area, snarling traffic northwest of the city. snow forced the closure of, interstateere cars and trucks sat in stand-still y affic. the u.s. senate tonfirmed white house budget official kathy kraninger to run the ioconsumer financial prote bureau. the vote was 50 to 49, after a six-month battle. democrats criticized kraninger's lack of experience in financial services, t banking groups applauded the outcome. the trump administration has worked to scale back the c.f.p.b.'s enforcement effor. and, congress has passed ao- ek spending bill, to prevent a partial government shutdown tonight. president trump already omised to sign the bill, but he also warned, he may force a shutdown if a longer-term spending package fails to fund a border wall. still to come on the newshour:
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rising tensions with china after the arrest of a cell phone why's arguments before the supreme court could be critical to the russia investigation. delegations from both sides of yemen's civil war convene for peace talks in sweden. and, much more. >> nawaz: over the weekend, it seemed a fragile truce might bring an end to the -long trade war between the u.s. and china. but a highrofile arrest in canada is now roiling financial markets further, and it could complicate the efforts to ease trade tensions. it's been six days since this woman, meng wanzhou, was arrested in vancouver, canada. she is chief financial officer of the chinese electronics giant huawei, and the daughter of its founder. the toronto "globe and mail" reports she is suspected of violating american tradenc
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saons on iran, and that the u.s. is seeking her extradition. today, china's foreign ministry demanded answers from canada. >> ( translated ): china has made clear its soln position separately to canada and the united states, requestin to immediately clarify the reasons for detention, immediately releasthe detainee, and guarantee the legitimate rights and interests of the person concerned. >> nawaz: canada confirms the arrest and the u.s. extradition request, and canadian prime minister justin trudeau today said canadian law enforcement tified his office a few days before the arrest. >> there was no engagement or involvement in the political level in this decision, because we respect the independence of hr judicial processes. further to that,e not had y direct or indirect conversations with, with any of my international counterparts on this >> nawaz: u.s. concerns about huawei go back to president obama. t the company largest
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global supplier of phone and internet technology, and the second-largest smartphone manufacturer. u.s. officials say huawei's close ties to the chinese government raise security concerns. last spring, the pentagon banned all sales of huawei phones atry stores on miliases. the arrest also came the very same day that presidumpan d chinese president xi jinping agreed to a truce in their trade r. today, the chinese sent conflicting signals about the pontial fallout. the english-language "global times," closy tied to the ruling communist party, warned, "china should be fully prepared foan escalation in the tra war," and it cited the arrest of meng. at t same time, the chinese ministry of commerce indicated beijing does not want to disrupg ss on the trade front. to help make sense of ose conflicting signals, james mulvenon. he works at s.o.s. international, a defense contracting company which focuses on cyber-security and intelligence. he has written extensively about
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china's military and technology sector. >> there was a period in 2008 and 2009 where she was ard bo sector of a hoping congress company called sky com tech, completely owned by waway that th used to divert technology in sanctions against iran. >> nawaz: are you talking about the division of u.s. tech. what k td ofechnology? >> specifically diverted computer i equipment from hewlett packard that would have required an export license to be able to to be transferred to iran at the time whi with us under sanctions. >> nawaz: so we know the u.s. barred waway from participating in next generation 5g mobile
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network, they have been pressuring other companies to do the same. ey've band sale of phones on military bails. national security gets brought whate national security up. risk associated with it. >> there's a lot of discussion about whether whyway is a front to have chinese intelligence or e litary. that's not thmost important argument. they're the largest pri owned company in china and if they were able to get a foothold in a u.s. telecommunications market through legitimate market means and subsequently the minister state security or military said we want in, wele want to be o exploit and intercept those networks, given the curnt political atmosphere if china, there's no way the venpany could say no and that situation, it's too dangerous from a national security perspective to allow them to be involved in those networks. >>he time of this arrest was somewhat extraordinary, happened on the very same day thealks were kicking off. what do we know about why that happened? >> for the time being, unlesi
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hear otherwise about specific timing, i think they had to t advantage of the fact that she happened to be in a country that was friend to the united states, had an extradition treaty. obviously canada is a member of the five eyes intelligence sharing group. we have been pressuring nadians not to use whyway equipment in their modernization. but subsequent to that, administration officials were saying this might give them leverage in the tradeat negons. so even after the fact, they may be trying to take advantage of it. do we know what kind of impact it could have on trade tanss? >> in the she becomes a bargaining championship to get concessions from the cheers side. but at the same time this legal case against whyway has been in place since 2011 because of its connection to the c zetse. so the justice department has been wanting prosecute th for a long time. the timing is the key issue. >> at the same tim the arrest of this particular executive so
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very senior. she's been called a memr of corporate loyalty in china. that sends an extnaraor message. >> it does, particularly the fact she's the oldest daughter of the founder of whyway who is considered one of thet mos important figures in the chinese system. whyway is clear the most important national champion company the chinese government is extremely proud of their achievements. but at the same time she was the cfo and ard secretary involved in this particular transfer. so if they have evidence she was the one who wasaundering the money, setting up the front companies, facilitating these illegal diversio, she might just have been the right person for them to indict. >> we don't know what they know but how concerned would u.s. officials be out retaliation, american executives on the ground. >> if you are an executive of a company on the u.s. side or someone else that has been
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ouldeting with whyway, i w have my go bag ready. i wouldn't plan trips to chis . if it ere now, i would carry my passport with m if i was walking around the city. >>nawaz: a lot of concern abouta i.p., didny of this have anything to do with those hincerns? >> i this has to do with the illegal diversions violating the sanctions regime against iran. that's not to say whyway has been a boy scout on the intellectual theft side. a long case cisco wage them because of poaching of cisco engineers and the complete copying of the entire cisco operating system which they settled. but too similarities. the moth boards were the same. they produced the cisco manuals with the same misspellings. so it was pretty obvious. while whryay had a hisof
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copying, we can't doubt they are one of the most innovative telecommunication also equipment bmpanies in the world and this is a seriow to them in terms of getting into the westn markets. >> nawaz: james mulvenon, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> nawaz: the highest court today heard a case concerning onthe fifth amendment's ba prosecuting someone for the same crime twice. the justices were asked to rethink decades-old precedent that allows for prosecution of the same crime if it's in state and federal courts. to explain what happened in the supreme court to'm joined by newshour regular marcia coyle. she is chief washingtonr correspondent e "national law journal." good to see you again. >> ged to see you.e the case befe supreme court, what is it about. >> the terrence isan alabama man first convicted in state court for the crime of a felon
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in possession of firearm. after that, he was tried and convicted rt federal cf the same crime. he appealed saying that the double successive procution violated the double jeopardy clause of the fifth amendment, which as yojust explained prohibits trying someone twice for the same fense. he lost his appeals because of-o that 170-ye exception to the double jeopardy clause known as the separate sovereign exception. that is if two sovereign states and the united states, they are allowed to do the doubleos ution, or two states, which are also separate sovereig, they could do it as well. he brought the case to the supreme court that the justitos heary, an his lawyer basically is saying, look, this exception is a court-created exception, it's inconsistent with the original understanding of the double jeopardy clause, it's not in the text of theau
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, and it's consistent with the purpose of the clause, which is to promote fairness and finality. >> so these double prosecutions, right, either state anr state o state and federal, do we have any idea out how often these happen or watt kind of case they usually occur in? >> the just can't attorney argued today and sd, first of all, the department has a policy that limits its own successiveos utions. unless there's a very substantial federal consideve the ment won't step in, ghly 100 cases a year. and the kinds of cases if which you are most visible to us ares in civil rigses, for example. an example that he gave was federal murder charges stemming from thetoharlchurch massacre and the pittsburgh synagogue massacre. he warned that if the exception were eliminated, they would probably have to drop those charges.
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and, also, native arican tribes are supporting this exception because they like have the federal backup when it comes, in particur, to prosecution of domestic violence crimes against women on their reservations. >> so based on what heard from the justices today, based on the makeup of the court rht now, do weave any idea which way this will go? >> to be honest, i don'tver predict, but i did see a solid mathrity here to get rid o exception to the clause mainly because the justices were focused very heavily on the practical consequences here.e for example, civil rights consequence, the native american tribes consequence, but also the government pointing out there could be races to the court use by federal and state prosecutors to see who couldif file firs there was no exception, that it could dete prosecution among law enforcement and criminal defends might try to manipulate separate
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sovereigns to see where they might get the best trl outcome. so they were very focused on that and concerned and, also, even though the defendant focused a lot on the original understanding, justice kag pointed out some justices on the bench believe that's the alpha and omega of every constitutional question, but others do not. she is not an originalist, and she said you're going to have to give me something more beforei' willing to overturn a 170-year-old precedent. interestingly enough, judge kavanaugh said to the defendant, yes,stare decisis, standing by precedent is part of that original understanding, and you're going to have to show this president o nly wrong but egregiously wrong, and that's >> nawaz: one of the reasons people are paying very close attention to this case is because they believe it could have an impact on the russiahe
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probd by special counsel mueller, the idea it is is a federal prosecution, if people are convicted and are pardoned by the president, that bieps the state clean, there could not be a state prosecution on top of that. that's what they're worried about and why people are watching closely. legal exts disagree on how this might affect successive a prosecutions ao the impact of a presidential pardon on anybody that mueller may prosecutor and get convictions on. so we'llave to wait and see on that, how it plays out, as well as the supreme cou decision. >> nawaz: wait and see indeed. marcia coyle, always good to see you. thanks for being here. >> my pasure. >> nawaz: stay with us. coming up on the newshour: how an increase in greenhouse gas emissions could cause major climate change events to occur much sooner. the trucking industry at a
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crossroads-- aomation looms, amid a current labor shortage. and, four newly-elected members of congress talk about their arrival in washington. for the first time in 2.5 years, there are peace talks over the war in yemen, the site of at proxy fitween iran and saudi arabia, backed by the united states. as nick schifrin reports, the talks come as the conflict grinds on, the immense suffering continues, and the debate over u.s. support for the war heats up on capitol hill. >> reporter: on a grassy, quiet estate, in a renovated castle outside stockholm, yemen's warring parties sat around a table today to try and decide their country's fate. on one side, yemen's sunni, internationally-recognized government. across the table, shia houthi rebels, who ho in the middle, the u.n. envoy ying to make peace. >> the country's institutionsat arisk, the fragmentation of the country is an enormous
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trncern, and we must act now before we lose conol of the future of yemen. >> reporter: the country is cracking after a four-year war that's killed tens of thousands. it began as a civil war in 2014. but no a saudi-led coalition fights on the ground, and launches air-strikes with the help of u.s. advors. and the u.n. says houthi rebels receive aid and roet parts fr iran. both sides hold thousands of prisoners, and that was today's main confidence-building measure: a swap anunced by u.n. envoy martin griffiths. >> it will allow thousands of families to be reunited, and it is a product of very effective active work from both delegations. >> reporter: most recently, the two sides ve fought hardest for the port city of hodeida. the saudi-led alition surrounded the city and the coalition's spokesman rejected a cease-fire. >> ( translated ): our operation in hodeidah wi continue. the pace of our operation, however, will change
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accordingly, depending on the situation. >> reporter: the.n. hopes to place hodeidah under international control. mee port accepts the vast majority of s humanitarian aid. ar what the u.n. is trying to do, on the humann front, that's hodeida, is specifically a humanitarian issue-- is to preserve the pipeline which is keeping people in yemen alive. .> reporter: there's not much keeping them ali today, the world food program said half of yemen's populationo 15 million pple, are now severely food-insecu organizations such as the aternational rescue committee are trying to saentire generation from famine. amanda catanzano is the i.r.c.'s seor director monitoring t sweden talks. >> the question we need to ask ourselves is, while these are welcome, do they correspond with the urgency of the situation inside the country? are they going to matter, and are they going to alleviate any humanitarian suffering? time is not something that yemenis have on their >> reporter: ostreets of the capital sanaa, yemenis are deparate for progress.>> translated ): many people have fled, people are starting to eat from the trash, the
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situation has become utterly dire. so i hope the voice of reason and sense of humanity will prevail. >> reporter: while the u.s. supports the talks and is pushing to end the war, the administration is resisting punishing saudi arabia or targeting the saudi defee minister, crown prince mohammad bin salman. but opstistion to the war in yemen and to m.b.s., as he's known, is now crescendo-ing in senate. >> how do you deal with an authoritarian despot that doesn't share american values mportant to american interests? ed reporter: today, louisiana republican john keand other senators are considering how to influence saudi policy, pushed to action by die murder, anemberment, of journalist jamal khashoggi. the c.i.a. assesses m.b.s. likely ordered his dea b. >>ieve prince mohammad did know what was going somebody gavorder-- end either he gave it, or watched it being g-- to gut . khashoggi like a fish. >> reporter: one senate bill would end support to the saudi-o
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leition. another bill would end all arms sales to saudi arabia, and sanction saudi officials. a separate resolutn would declared m.b.s. "complicit" in khashoggi's murder, and pushes saudi arabia to end the war in yemen. >> this conflict is being seen as morally bankrup it's being seen perhaps as strategically bankrupt a not advancing u.s. interests in the region, and it's also becoming deeply politically unpopular. which really begs the question: what's the constituency forui cont to support this conflict? >> reporter: secretary of state mike pompeo and the administration oppose congressional action. that will prevent any measure from becoming law. but, catanzano says the senate stl holds power. >> the congress can't fundamentally alter the stratec partnership between the u.s. and saudi arabia. however, they can change things at the margins. they control the purse strings,i they have an aty to slow down or stop arms sales and other forms of support.
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while the white house remains in the drivers seat, to a large extent, congress can become ain very annoybackseat driver. >> reporter: the road ahead will remain violent, but the u.s. and much of the world hope thatda tos peace talks can one day provide an off-ramne for the pbwshour, i'm nick schifrin. >> nawaz: representatives from nearly 200 nations are in poland this week at a u.n. climate conference, trying to hammer out specific rules for cutng their countries' greenhouse gas emissions. they already faced the daunting task of meeting goals they agreed to back in 2015, as parte ofaris climate accord. but as william brangham reports, that mission got even tougher yesterday, with a new reportat lobal emissions of carbon dioxide are in fact rising, reaching the highest levels on record. >> brangham: that's right, amna. a new report by the globalje
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carbon p says worldwide, emissions grew by 1.6% last year, and are expected to rise another 2.7% this year. caon dioxide is the main g that's driving climate change,s and the dangerse in global temperature. the paris accord hoped to limit that warming to just 2 degrees celsius, or 3.6 degrees farenheit, but this cent report seems to put that goal increasingly out of reach. much of the increase in emissions is being driven by growth in china and is now the world's largest carbon emitter, followed by the u.s. this report is just the latest in a series of very recent, stark warnings about climate change. u.n. secretary general antonio guterres put it this way, "we are in deep trouble. it is hard to overstate the urgency of ourjoituation." i'ed now by david victor, a professor of international rmlations at u.c.-san diego, and author of "global g gridlock," about why we've failed taddress this issue
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thus far. david victor, thank you very much for being on the "newshour". we have seen from 2014 to, i believe, 2016 that global emissions flattened out. so this rise came as something of a surprise. can you help us understand a bit what is driving this >> welthe main driver is economic growth. countries are beginning to put together systems that will help control emissions, that's what e paris agreement vowed talk about in poland this week and next, but that took a long time to come into being. t meanwhile economic growth and technology we're using for nkergy systems continued forward, so i theople reacted to a couple of years of flat emissions and surpris when the processes continue as we've seen in the most recent reports. >> no leader wants to say i want tout a stop on economic growth especially in a country like india orina.
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so if emissions keep on this tajectory, doesn't that the goal of paris accord's keeping rming under 2 degrees just puts that in real jeopardy? >> yeah, puts those goals in real jeopardy and it's easy to be pessimistic about the overall process. we have been talking about the climate issue for a long time and not really taking much action. i think the underlying all that there are scenarios of good news. more countries are learning how to grow economically, jobs, wealth to people, with lower emissions. states and cities are taking the lead. those procees are unfolding slowly, but it's not like nothing is happening here. meanwhile, the overall global picture certainly is a grim one. you wrote a piece in nature that accompanied this most recent report and you were arguing that the recent starnrk gs have somewhat even underplayed the fact that global warming is, in fact, accelerating? >> yeah, a team of uswe eat
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concerned he warning that we passed the 1.5 degrees prove pre-industrial levels around 2040 and at seemed like long time off and still a problem. at took a look at the data which showed an acceln in warning and suggested the warning of 2040 or so may hpen in 2030, maybe earlier. so we've written that article, in part, to show tht the problem is even more serious than people thought and, also,or to underthat there's actually a lot of things that can be done as we starts to worry about rapid warming. ny pollutants cause global warming that are extremely potent and we have a lot of technological opportunities for controing them now and if we double down on those to nothing, we could slw down the rate of warming quite appreciably. >> even with the political will to do these sethings, tre hard policies to enact. we saw in france trying to enact a gasoline tax which in essence
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is a carbon tax and we had riots in the streets.wh so even i political will is toere, it's not an easy thin do. >> this is one of the hardest problems the world has conf it's a problem where the technology is needed to get to essentially zero emissions are not yet available, the ones that existre expensive but some of the costs are coming down, soco you have higts that are visible today for benefits that still seem sort of abstract to people and mostly in the future and mostly for theorld as a whole, so it's not surprising a tproblem structured likt is a really hard problem to tackle. >>ow do we increase the se of urgency? 2 degrees celsius is somewhat abstract. give us a sense, what does 2 degrees of warminganlikely for the planet? >> i think one of the difficulties here is the scientific literature makes it clear there isn't a single threshold, there isn't some mark beyond which everything comes
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include. what happens is as the planet warms the probility of extreme events goes up, the probability of the extreme wildfires we've seen in california, the extreme storms gs up. i think what's interesting in the scientific community is we're paying much me atention to developing fine-grain projections for what a warmer world means for the risk of wildfire, coastal inundation and the the risks to farmers and less noticed than the u.n. report but one that came out as the same timis a big assessment of those in the ited states of impacts. you start to see more people grappling with what does this mean for me. as that happens, the politicalization around the climate problem will get stronger but still doesn't mean it's an easy problem to slve. >> david victor, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> nawaz: the idea of a future with self-driving cars sparks both fascination and concern.
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just yesterday, waymo announced the start of a self-driving, car-sharing service in phoenix. and yes, the cars will still have a backup driver in ca of problems. but the stakes are high for the u.s. trucking industry, too, and that's the focus of tonight's report in our series, "the future of work." on the one hand, the industry has long faced a driver shtage. on the other, self-driving trucks could threaten the jobs of truckers, many of whom are older men without college degrees. economics correspondent paul solman explores whether bedriverless trucks could come kings of the road, as part of our weekly look at economics, "making sense."ep >>ter: longtime trucker finn murphy, inadvertently showing me how tough a job a trucker's can be. >> so what i need to do around before i get on a low bridge or some other nightmare that i don't want to get involved in. >> reporter: despite such subtleties, though, says murphy, the future of work on the road
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is just around the corner: the driverless truck.t' >> i thinkimminent, yeah. i think it's going to happen within the next three years or wh, where you have a level-four autonomous vehicleh means it doesn't need a human operator. >> reporte finn murphy is a long-haul human operator, has been since he dropped out of college in the early '80s. he's now at the top of the trucking hierarchy: a and mover of pricey cargo like art.> o, movers, we're called bed buggers. >> reporter: bed buggers?, >> yd buggers. and our trucks are called roach coaches, because it has people's stuff in it. and then, the flatbed haulers, they're called skateboarders. >> reporter: bed buggers like murphy driving roach coaches, which haul high-end merchandise, can gross $200,000 a y skateboarders, on the other hand, and other non-specialists in this increasingly deregulated, de-unionized industry, are paid $30,000- $50,000. >> compaes are struggling to find qualified commercial truckers who deliver 70% of all
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goods in this country. >> reporter: the american trucking association ps a major shorge of drivers. >> reporter: along with the many hazards-- something like a quarter of all worrelated fatalities are truckers-- and endless hours away from home, paltry pay explains what's become a chronic trucker shortage. but we're still talking some two million trucking jobs in america, to be outcompeted byti auto? >> they've got their eyes on the prize: get rid of drivers. >> reporter:ut can programmers teach trucks to hook up the trailer as a human can learn to do? just about any human. >> connect the hoses? check thoil? >> reporter: not to mention navigate rain, wind, sleet or snow, and pedestris? that's why finn murphy's boss, will joyce, thinks humans are still in the drir's seat.
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>> even if a truck had the pabilities for braking and guidance-- which is fantastic; the more the better for safety-- but you're still going to need an operator, like a train needs a conductor. >> reporter: but murphy remains adamant. >> i think they're in denial because it's already here. you know, we've already logged 23 million miles. there are autonomous trucks on the road right now. >> reporter: there's volvo's "vera"; e truck by start-upba with no one in sight; google; waymo; daimler, the "inspiration." all seem to validate the trucker's lament, written d sung by econo-crooner merle hazard: no one even asleep at the wheel. ♪ chip chip chips and software call the shots now ♪ the roads will be for driving bots now ♪ old school highway cowboys
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lost the fight. ♪ >> reporter: and yet, such visions may be a bit premature. from bristol, connecticut, we flew to portland, oregon, home of daimler trucks north america, ise of the world's leading producers of sem, now at work on automating them. three years ago in nevada, daimler showed off its "inspiration," the world's first road-licensed self-driving truck. steve nadig, daimler's head engineer for mechatronics, showed us the newest "freightliner" model. it has all the latest sensors and doodads, but can it operate without a driver yet? >> absolutely not. not at this point. >> reporter: all right, so, when is that point going to be? >> at this point, i tell you. i can tell you what we're going to do, and daimler trucks are going to take it step by step, safety by safety, use case by e case, to make sure tha we're putting the safest truck on the road possible. >> reporter: what welikely to see, nadig says, at least in the short and medium term, isut
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more aomated features to make trucks safer and more fuel efficient-- automated transmission, of course; automated braking; auto-lot for staying in the lane. but, look, in this wind tunnel, they're also still working on old-school stuff likena aeroc styling to save fuel. and many of the new-fangled features are already available on cars. for 80,000-pound, 53-foot-long 18-wheelers, there's still a long way to go. in the next three years, says steve nadig, the most we're likely to see is platooning, where, to decrease wind-drag while increasing safety, multiple trucks can be electronically linked together. and when might you or i actually pull up alongside an autonomous truck? five years? all right, ten years? >> maybe, maybe not. still think, in ten years, when we look at it, we still have a driver in the seat.
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>> reporter: but as an engineer, i just assume that you believe that, ultimately, systems will be safer than people. >> to be honest with you, if we can put this on pbs,e a lot of beer discussions over that. can... if a human being can ever be safer than a vehicle or can a vehic be safer than a human being? and we've had a lot of intellectual discussions on sides of >> reporter: where are you before you have too much beer? >> i would tell you, at this point in my career, i haven't seen the evidence to take th driver out of the seat. >> reporter: and that seems to be the engineering consensus: autonomous trucks in ten, 20, y maybears. but even then, likely driving only the long stretches of open highway, where conditions ared the easiest anmand for drivers is greatest. re handing off to human drivers for the "last mile" into ghties, with their turns and twists, traffic lits and... us. so, whew, right? trkers can keep on truckin
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>> the biggest threat to the loss inivers is not j the near term. >> reporter: sociologist steve viscelli wrote the book on trucking-- a book, away-- after driving a rig for six months himself. the biggest threat to truckers? >> it's the loss of job quality, in particular as automated features come online. it's going to allow the industry to use less-skilled drivers, whh will extend a long-ter trend in trucking wages where drivers are earning less, working longer hours, staying out on the road for long periods ld time. and automation ceed right into that. lo reporter: that doesn't leave finn murphy-- ou haul driver and student of history-- with a lot of hope. >> i mean, we've had this problem in civilization for millennia. the issue is, wh does a society decide if they... if they have a le in helping these folks out? and if the average age is 55, these guys are going to be
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computer programmers? they didn't finish high school. i doubt it. oh, look at these three pedestrians. ladies. are you really doing this? >> reporter: yes, that's kind of amazing. they're actually in the road. inah. not even walkinge file. >> now, how is a machine going to view that? that's the question. ( laughs ) >> reporter:corom bristol, nnecticut, to portland, oregon, this is economics correspondent paul solman for the pbs newshour. >> nawaz: the 2018idterm elections saw nearly 100 new democratsns an elected to the house of representatives. judy woodruff sat down recently with four members of that incoming class. >> woodruff: the congressionalan freslass of 2019 is one of the largest since world war ii. it is the most racially diverse class in history, with a record number of firsts. its ranks include doctors
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soldiers, teachers, and professional athletes. starting in january, they'll have a chance to weigh in on an array of issues, from immigration to health care, to possibly investigating the president. i'm joed now by four new members of the house of representatives. democrat elissa slotkin is a former c.i.a. analyst who worked inoth the george w. bush a the obama administrations. she'll represent michigas 8th district, made up of the detroit suburbs and the state capitol lansing. democrat lauren underwood is a registered nurse and first-time candidate, who will represent the chicago suburbs in illinois' 14th district. both women defeated republican incumbents on election day. and our two republicans. mark green, a doctor and army veteran o served tours in iraq and afghanistan. he will represent the tennessee .sseat vacated by incoming senator marsha blackburn. the district includes the nashville suburband the area around fort campbell army base.
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and, denver riggleman. he is an air force veter who now owns a craft distillery. he will represent central virginia in the 5th district, which includes the city ofe. charlottesvi and congratulations again to all of you, and welcome to the newshour.ha >> thanks fong us. >> woodruff: great to have you here. n three of you had never for public office before. so, while it's still fresh in rour minds, what is it that you're taking awaythis election, from this campaign, ythat is going to stay wi for a long time? elissa slotkin, what about you? first ti for you, first to run for office. >> i think fore, the number of people who were first-time volunteers, who had never done anything on a politimpaign in their lives, who were just feeling like they deserv better in washington and that the vitriol and the tone andng tenor cout of washington did not reflect how they wanted to live at home, how they wanted to get along with theiror neig how they wanted their communities to be for their kids.
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>> woodruff: and denver riggleman, what about you? i mean, this is the first timefi you ran for . you're a businessman. >> i was talking to some of the folks earlier. our district looks like a dragon riding a scooter. it's 21 counties, it's jersey, parts of delaware. and i think at you find out is, you think you know your home state, you think you know, like, for the commonwealth of virginia, and you find that people have such divergent views on everything, and what they're really looking for is somebody to listen, and to provide somelu ons and allow those solutions or sort of get out of our way, because we feel like nobody listens to us. >> woodruff: well, some of this next question you're already answered, but i mean, we have make the point. in this election, voters took control of the house away frompu icans, gave it to democrats, and gave democrats something like 40 more seats lauren underwood, what do you think the voters were saying? >> i think the voters are saying it's time to change policy, change process, change and then make sure that the congress is truly responsive to the needs of the american people. i come from a community where
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people had no idea what was happening here in washington. they couldn't recognize any ofom the policiesg out because they weren't responsive to our needs. they couldn't recognize some of the words, like what elissa was saying, the words and the tone of the conversation. and so folks were really truly trying to vote for change. >> woodruff: mark green, what you think? >> it's very interesting, you know. we did lose control of the house, but we gained seats in the senate.nt so it's veryesting to see the dichotomy there. so in my district, i mean, i won my seat by 35 points. so it is pretty clear, theti conser values that i have are what the people in my district want me to come up and fight for. so i think, what i really think, everyone wan, these guys, us people, to just work together better. >> woodruff: is that kind of what you were hearing, elissa slotkin? >> absolutely. i mean, i won in a district that was a gerrymandered republican district, so the only way for me to win was to appealo a broad group of people across the
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political spectrum.e and so, they wally responding to a message of "we got it. we got to work together and be practical and get something done." >> woodruff: denver riggleman, how did you hear what the voters were saying? in>> what i saw, especiallhe south side, in the more rural counties, they actually feel like they've been forgotten. and every time i got there, it's like, "we've never seen a congressman here, we've never had anybody come here," and when you start talking to these individuals and you look at what we had in our lives and what we've been able to fight for and serve and to help others, you start to get this, a bit of a sad feeling, that ybe the system is failing some people. >> woodruff: well, you won't be surprised to know that every an class has come in tha we've had a chance to talk to, believes they can make a difference. but, lauren underwood, what is it about this moment that makes you think you can do thingsff ently from the way they've been done before? >> well, health care was the number one issue in this election. without fail. ipfordability for premium prices are too high, preson drug prices are too high. and we saw what theco
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ressional republicans attempted to do in 2017, which was to take away health care verage from people with pre-existing conditions. i feel likthe american peopleok and said it was unacceptable. we want real progress. >> woodruff: mark green, were you getting a different messag from the voters in tennessee, where, as you said, you got a 35 point lead? a >> yeah, ie.r. physician and i run a healthcare company in about 11 states. we had about 1,000 providers working for us. if you want to fix health care, we've got to reverse the incentives. that's the real problem. and i think free market will do eat. if you look at las surgery, it was like $2,000 when it came out, and while technology has improved incredibly, the price of-- i saw an ad the 00her day for n eye. so we've got to get market forces andeople choosing, making choices, and then we'll, and we'll fix healthcare. >> we may have different opinions about how to get there.
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what we can't do is just forget about our responsibili in a room and just work on it. like, you feel that we could have a real conversation to get sothing done. democrats and republicans have never agreed on everything. that's our system, that's healthy. so we've got to actually get in a room and get something done. that's our >> woodruff: driggleman, you're entering a congress where the two parties have not worked together. do you think the parties shoulda work together, how do you make that happen, when it hasn't happened before? >> well, i mean, i had a pretty interesting, t nights ago, i was talking about i crashed the democratic party on the 15th floo and i went and talked to them. there wasn't a sort of partisan divide. they actually started talking about issu, and solutions to those issues. i know we say there might be a different time coming. i almost feel like it is. >> woodruff: how much do you think you should be working with the other party, and how much do you stick to your principles, the fundamentals that you believe in? >> well, i think that on many-- and i will say, most issues, there is an opportunity for
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common ground. it's, how far do we want to take it? wd so, i think of an issue like paid family leavch we heard president trump campaign on. he dispatched his daug ivanka to go work on it, and she couldn't get it done. n t we have an opportunity democratic majority where we know that is is a priority, and so, can we work together? yes. >> another gooexample of that is infrastructure. i think that we really have some commonality there. there's an opportunity to gets some thine, and it's unique, you know. we've got a republican senate and we've got a democrat house, so obviously we're going to have to work together. and it kind of conju for me, you know, the reagan-o'neill era, when those two fought like. cats and d >> woodruff: president reagan and tip o'neill, the democratic speaker of the house. >> and then they would go drink some scotch together as irishmen in the evening, you know. we also need to start relating and having a relationship with the other side.
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>> woodruff: i mean, some members have been essentially punished btheir party leadership for working with the other side. >> yea i would say this is the important thing about us being such a large freshman class, because it's, it's hard for one person to co in and change the system. 90 new people coming in at the same time? with the strength of numbers, but the strength of fortitude to say "no, i was sent here to work, to get something done, and that requires me to work across the aisle." that is a lot stronger of a position to be in when your leadership or some ye else comes and says "hey, toe the party line." you've got 90 people standing behind you, pefully, who have been sent with a different mandate. and that's the difference and cultural change. >> you know, one of the big problems, and i think politics is, everybody wants to be thes person who ft, instead of just helping somebody else fix it sometimes. and i thk that's important. our pride gets in the way sometimes. and i think it's time to throw that to the curb and serve the people. >>oodruff: but i'm curious still to know, are you prepared to stand up? because there are powerful forces in each party, sure to keep the party in line and
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voting with your fellow democrats, republicans. >> i think we're going to be pretty independent, because i don't think, in our lives, we've gotten to where we are by kowtowing, you know, to leadership. obviously, we're respectful of it, because we're chain of command or the things thn we've done ir lives. you know, and i think at some point, all of us are going to bi able to say we have to. >> the point is, we are here to represent the people who sent us here. my district is a trump district. i represent them. we don't need to be blindly >> woodruff: s means you're prepared to vote with president trump on some issues. >> i'm prepared to vote in the best interests of thle of the 14th district.
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>> i mean, we talked about infrastructure. if, you know, he said the right things on infrastructure, if we put real money behind at, we need once in a generation investment in our infrastructure in michigan. if that's something that he's suggesting and he's pushing i'm on boa because we need it. so that's keep the focus on what we need. and you can vote the way you want. w >> woodruff: at about on the republicans, are you prepared to stand up to the president? >> i think i'm going to. at this point, i can't imagine ou issue right now where i be different. but if there was one, i mean, i would support the people in my district. i work for them. i report to them. >> yeah, well, in my district u itque in that there is president trump supporters. but i think, again, with the size of my district, there's so many different ideas and policies i have to approach that i have to go policy first based on my you know pnt trump's policies, yeah, i agree with a lot of them, but if it's a policy that i sagree with, i'm not afraid to say i disagree with it, and i'm uncomfortable
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wearing another person's sports jersey. so it really comes to me about policy over peonality and erything i've done in my life.oo >>uff: a lot of talk about washington d.c. being a swamp. we've heard that from the what does it look like to you here so far? >> if i were to say i didn't see some of the swamp still there, i'd be lying. and i think at's why some of us ran, because we do see that. so for me, i'm here to, maybe, wetop, you know, some of t shenanigans that all of us fall behind closed doors.ou and maybe,now, drag some of those vampires into the sunlight, you know, and see what we can do there. >> so yeah, i think there's certainly a perceptionyou get into washington, a little bit of a bubble. and the conversations going on in my district areot the same as the conversations going on in washington. and i think everyone has gd intentions. but i also think it wouldn't kill some people to come out of washington sometimes, come and
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be on the ground, hear what we're talking about, instead of to think and il about what's happening here in this town. >> woodruff: thank you very much, elissa slotkin, lauren underwood, and congratulations to you, and to you, mark green and denver riggleman thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> nawaz: on the newshour online right now, a new study reveals clues about e extent to which the u.s. health care system relies on immigrants to function. we break down th website, and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm amna nawaz.s joinline, and again here tomorrow evening, when mark shields and david brooks reflect on the political legacy of president george h.w. bush. r all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> kevin. >>evin! >> kevin? >> advice for life. life well-planned.
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