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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, pulist upheaval in europ the brexit vote facesn uncertain future as violent protests continue to roil fran. then another staff shakeup at e white house. the search is underway for a new chief of staff following the oksignation of john kelly. and we take a lo at how factory shutdowns will aect thousands of general motors employees. >> we found out after thfact and that's not fair. you have to explain to us what's going on as much as you can and that's all that anyone can er ask for is respect. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour."
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>> woodruff: the leaf britain and france find themselves under severere political presonight. french president emmanuel macron promised lower taxes and w higher minime today in a bid to quell violence in paris. and, british perme minister a may postponed a vote on a "brexit" deal to leave the european union. it faced near-certain defeat.ve we'll detailed look after the news summary. in the day's otherews: wall street fell sharply in the morning, but fought back in the afternoon. doubts about the brexit deal, plus u.s. trade tensions with china, fueled the initial losses. the dow jos industrial average dropped 500 points before finishing ahead 34 points close at 24,423. the nasdaq rose points. and the s&p 500 added four. a major winter storm moved out a the deep south today after dumping heavy sn killing at least three people. some of the worst hit north
carolina, dropping a foot of snow and causing widespread power outages. streets and highways in the state were empty over the weekend. governor roy cooper warned today of flooding still to come. >> this storm dropped staggering amounts of snow, ice and rain across our state. a year's worth of snowfall, or more fell in some places ine little man a day. >> wdruff: the overall storm system stretched from texas to richmond, virginia. ina u.n. climate conferenc poland has entered its second and final week-- with pressure growing for action. about hundred protesters disrupted a u.s.-sponsored panel on fossil fuel today. they demanded that the trump administration do more to combat global warming. on saturday, the.s. along with russia, saudi arabia and kuwait blocked endorsement of a major scientific report on climate change. some 164 countries signed a non-
binding migration pact today aimed at ensuring safe movement for migrants around the world. the deal caps two years of deliberations among members of the united nations. in marrakech, morocco, the u.n.'s secretary general warned against demonizing migrants. >> all human beings must have their human rights respected and their dignity upheld. to deny this and to vilify any group of people is the road to dehumanization and horror. we must not succumb to fear or false narratives. >> woodruff: the united nations led a group of other western countries that rejected the reement. back in this country, president trump to hush money payments to women who say they had affairs with him. s former attorney michael cohen claims mr. trump directedd the payments af the 2016 election. that could violatee ampaign
finaw. on twitter, the president callea it "a simple p transaction," not a campaign contrition. we'll look at all of this, later in the program. and a russian woman accused of being a covert agent is now expected to plead guilty. maria butina will appe federal court on wednesday.le she previouslyed not guilty to conspiracy and acting as an unregistered russian agent. buna allegedly tried to infiltrate the national rifle association and influence u.s. policy towards russia. still to come on the "newshour," europe in crisis-- brexit faces an uncertain future as protests envelop france; the search begins for a new white house chief of staff; how the latest revelations from the mueller investigation are affecting the white house and much more.
>> woodruff: these are nervous days on both sid of the english channel. as we reported earlier, british prime minister theresa may wasst forced to ne tomorrow's parliament vote on a deal to cement "brexit", the u.k.'s leaving from the european union. paris, president emmanu macron promised to increaseim wages anement reforms to try and placate demonstrators who've been protestinge throughout fraer the past few weeks. here's foreign affairs corrpondent nick schifrin. >> reporter: paris is burning. and britain is consumed by brexit. >> the government has lost ncontrol of events and is complete disarray. >> reporter: european leaders trying to respond to the forces of populism are now bein consumed by them. they face serious threats to their power, and their countries face fundamental
transformations. >> ( translated ): our enemy is not just macron. this dates back 15, 20, 30be years, and it' a long time since the anger has been growing. today it explodes. and i think it's not yet over. >> reporter: for the fourth straight week, on saturday demonstrators faced off with french police. in downtown paris they created homemade barricades and had running clashes with armored clve and tear gas. they called themselves the "yellow vest" protestors for the florescence every driver has to carry. at first t y objected a gas tax-hike, but now this is france's biggest politicala crisis in lf century-- a sort of primal scream byns citiho feel left behind. in a prime-time address, macronu promised tretirees' taxes, raise the minimum wage, and push tafree, year-end bonuses.
he tried to sound cont >> ( translated ): my only worry is you. my only fight, is for you. our only battle, it's for france. >> reporter: when macron was elected in 2017, he was a barricade to grong anti- european populism, and faced off against presidentrump. >> we all share the same responsibility: make our planet great again. n reporter: but macron was also an outsider withbuilt-in constituency. and now left and right grassroots anger are demanding fundamentachanges that challenge macron's center-right policies. he declined to reinstate higher taxes on the rich, and protestors promise to keep fighting. >> ( translated ): instead of speaking on tv, he should just come and see us here. he should listen to us, that's exactly what we want, to be heard. >> reporter: that sense of being ignored helped spark brexit. that vote blew up traditional british party politics.th means today there's no majority support for a hard
brexit, another referendum, orer a may's middle-ground. the controversy is over the border between northern ireland, part of the u.k., and the republic of ireland, a separate country that's part of the e.u. today, cars can pass easily because there is effectively no border, and the brexit deal would keep northern ireland inside the e.u. orbit. may and the e.u. say it's the best deal possible. >> all the analysis shows that if you wish to deliver brexit, if you wh to honor the result of the referendum, then the deal that does that, that best protects jobs d our economy, is the deal that is on-- the government has put forward. >> repor jeremy corbyn has helped guarantee the deal the government has put forward, wod fail. >> people are in despair at the state of these failed negotiations, and concerned about what it means about their jobs, their velihoods, and their communities, and the fault for that lies solely at the feet of this shambolic government. r orter: today, theresa may
promised to renegotiate the issue over the northern ireland/ireland border, and she will travel to brussels on thursday, butop european union officials say there will be no renegotiations.th to talk about ides of the channel i'm joined from london by anand menon, professor of european politics and european affairs at king's college, and here in the studio celia belin is a vising fellow at ookings and a former advisor to the french foreign ministry. anand menon, can you started with you, theresa may faced an automatic defeat today in parliament. did she have any otherchoic but to pull the vote? >> no, i don't thi she di and it wasn't just the question of facing defeat. i think the real issue facing the prime minister becau in these weird times in britain, everyone knew she was going to lose. i think what entually mad number ten scared was the scale of defeat they thought they would suffer well over a hundred t was that that made them delay
the vote. because a defeat of that scale, the future of the prime minister is in doubt. >> there is no majority support for theresa may's version ofth brexite is no majority support in parliament for having a second referendum nor of and f harder brexit, are we looking at the more likelyio scenf a crash out of the eu, and does she have any options? >> well, it is worth saying that there is absolutely no majority support for a no deal brexit either, but this the nub of the oblem is parliament and the country are profoundly divided. there isn't a majority for any outcome. i think what the prime minister hopes is if she waits until january, let's tempers cool, let mp's face the prospect that if they don'dvote for this l one will be a no deal, which might be profounding dam it might focus attention an help her win some of the votes she needs. >> if i could switch to france for a minute, president macron offered an increase in minimum
wage today, tax cuts to the middle class. he acknowledgedhe anger, is that enough to assauge protesters that have no particular. >> there was a lot of expectation on this, emmanuel hemacron didn't speak forast three weeks. and so the people,r. expecting him it to make a dramatic or surprising decisions and to say the least, it is totally not enough. they were not very impressive. part of the reason is that they are trying to enter an ang thary has been brewing for decades now, the anger shared aoss the west, the anger dealing with underemployment, both here in europe and in the u.s., the anger about wage, you know, the nonevolution of age, the transformation o this economy from an industry of economy to information age. all of that has really t very strongly lower middle class, working class and these are the
people protesting. the arments are very, varied. and so it was very rd to actually provide an answer. >> have those protestors, the middle class, the working class, have they felt he's been out of touch, that he has en tone def, that he hasn't well understood what they are talking about? >> it is what they have been saying about him for the the past year and a half he has been in power, is that he is out of touch the attitude isrc ved as being arrogant, for a few little sentences here and there, that seem tohobe wing a sort of distrust of wer middle class. so there is a class element behind it. but more generally, people have been saying that this government has been blind to wht was going on on the ground. mostly because it came out of a new party with veryle littocal support, sometimes a lack, a deep lack of-- may and a lack o
understanding what is going on. and in many ways it has been deaf to the demands of the past three, four weeks. and so one of thde ands was also a demand on social juses tis-- justice, maybe reinstate the wealth tax which is something that macron has been unwilling to do is not questioning his own economic policy at this stage. >> professor anand menon, if i could zoom out for you a little bit and talk blt future europe. your mean officials have talked to me about how they need tor punishtain, basically, and make it difficult for brexit to go through. is the desire from some officials c thentinent to hold the eu together and make sure no one else tries to leave the eu is that preventing them from giving theresa may some of the concessions thae t shy need? >> i think to an extent it certainly ask is, there is a general understanding i think monk the remaining eu mmber states that nonmembership has to
look significantly worse thaner meip, because otherwise the dangers that others would look at britain doing well outside the club and say hello, why don't we try at. i'm not sure-- if it is a paicular strategy because i'm not sure there is any other member state ready to take 9 positionritd an has taken but that is thinking in brussels. >> and if we are talkinabout e people who are trying to hold the eu together, whether punishing britain ort, president macron was part of that group. and do his problems mean a yetback for him more globa and a setback for the people trying to resist some of thesest popumovements in both europe and united states? >> unfortunately, i think this might have impact outside of france as yopoint out, on the european parliamentary and election that are coming up next year. macron had very much taken the lead of the progressive ca versus the nationalist camp that was lead by matteo salvini, and
in hungary. and this crisis weakens his voice very much. but he might also have-- het micide also to put forwardls his propo regarding the europe that protects, a europe that is oore prtectionist in the world, it is something that he has touched upon previously in his davos speech a year ago, for example, saying that, youtr they, to pere the system people need to take care of the losers of gl tobalization, people that have been forgotten. and the irony is that in spite of te fact that he had correctly diagnosed the situation, d he not necessarily put in place those necessary reforms. he might be obliged to, he might come to the next eu election with a new platform, this remains to be seen. >> . >> thank you very much, to you both.
>> thank you. >> woodruff: we turn now to the white house and swirling speculation about who will replace general john kelly as chief of staff to president trump at the end of the year. yamiche alcindor joins me now with the latest. yamiche, hello, and remind us, why is john k'ly leaving, s president trump's second chief of staff. >> the revolving door at the ite house juskeeps spinning, judy. the ea that john kelly was brought in to have order and brought in to have this kind of hierarchy, this sense of responsibility that generals have, president trump wanted to have generals around him. and what president trump found was that he didn't like the fact that there was order being placed thlire. heed the free wheelingness of the white house. he likes the idea that the white .ouse wants to function much like trump tow he wants ivanka and jared to be able to walk into his office, that of course is his daughter and son in law.
so what we really hais a president that just grew tired-of-general kelly's rules and as a result made this announcement on saturday. rmpts-- reports are they were supposedo make this announcement on monday but the president went with his own timing as he often does.dr >> wof: there have bns several names floated and a couple appear to have clpub turned it down. so who is he talking to or think being at this point? >> well, we are really backprt the-- thident has a big job and lots of names. the first name was nik ayers, the vice president's chief of staff. is he someone that was a leading candidatfor the job. but both him and nick could not get together and come up with an agreement on how long he would keep the job. inports are that president trump wanted him to serv this position for two years and nick would not do that. as a result, nick ayers this weekend announced he was going pr be going to a superpac dedicated to electsident trump, because nick is now out of the running, you have a free for all. i ll list a whole bunch of names for you but let's start, the first one is david bos
bossy, is he someone that is a former tump 2016 deputy campaign manager, he is a loyalist to presi.nt tru he might gel well with the president. the next up is randy will levine, president of the new york yankees yes, president of the new york yankees. he told fox news i have spoken to nobody about the chief of staff job. have i great respect for president trump but am happy being present of the yankees. right lighthiser, u.s. trade representative. he told cbs news nobody one talked to him about it and is b hesed on trying to dot jo has and it is difficult enough. the other persons representative mark meadows a north carolina republican who is the chairn of the conservative house freedom caucus. he said quote serving as chfer staff would be an incredible honor. nd is one of the few people on the list who slike they want the job. you have steve mnuchin the fresh ree secretary and former goldman sax executive and mic mulvaney of management and budget. both of the men have signaled to people close to them that
they don't want the job. then mat whitaker who is acting attorney general, on friday whitaker met with jared kushner who is the president's son in law who is an white house advisor, some see that as act conff interest because matt whitaker is likely overseaing the russiand investigation red kushner kushner is someone that could be part of that investigation. >> you had to have a lonlig st to keep track of the people whose names are bei mentioned. >> it is not as if this is a white house going fie two year period with no cha enges. there lot going on right now. >> the next chief of staff will have a number of challens both messaging wise and legally so we lave to think first on the lega side. house democrats now have control of the house, so they have spp powe they will be looking at the the president's finances, opinionly looking at his hiring of ivanka trp and his sol jared kushner. then you will have basically a phief of staff trying to kee the train going with all this legal issue. hen you have robert mueller who could be releasia report detailing kind of what his
findings are of the russia investigation, that will be another thing where pem around the white house will be focused on tis. but this chief of staff will be focused on trying to get people to govern, trying to get theit house to just really function as a good body for this country. that the fact that there is going to be a 2020 campaign to look out for and the president will be running for re-election. so this chief of staff will have the job of trying to get affers to show not coordinate precisely with the campaign but really ha some soof synergy there. so it will be a big role and there will be a challatge there this chief of staff will have that other chief of staffs didn't have. >> woodruff: as you said, the president mself likes likes to e decisions on his own. >> yeah. so it could be today or next week. >> woodruff: e, to the grouery minute, not going let you sleep, yamiche, thank you. >> thanks. >> woodruff: stay with us.ng cop on the "newshour," how major gm factory shutdownsct
afthousands of workers; the troubling connection betweeo domesticnce and murders of women; and our politics monday team breaks down the latest political news. but first, the legal jeopardy for president trump deepened lingsweek with the many from federal prosecutors and from special counsel robert mueller's office. of particur concern are the payments made to two women during the 2016 campaign to stop them from comi forward with allegations they had sexual relations with mr. trump. william brangham explains how prosecutors have now implicated the president in a possibl felony crime. >> reporter: on friday, prosecutors added more detail to their case against michael cohen-- who was president trump's longtime lawyer and fixer. they detailed what they say was cohen's violation of federal election law. prosecutors accused cohen of intentionally trying to subvert the 2016 presidential election,
writing, "cohen sought to influence the election from the shadows. he did so by orchestrating secret and illegal payments to silence two women who otherwise would have made public their alleged extramarital affairs with individual-1" "individual-1," of course, is president trump, whomor prosecallege directed cohen and knew all about these payments. joining me now is rick hasen, he teaches at u.c. irvine law a school, hecholar of election law and campaign finance,nd writes the election law blog. thanks for being here again on the newshour. could you just start f helping us understand, what is the crime that is being alleged here? how do two possible hush money payments constitute a possible campaign law violation? >> sure, so an individual is allowed to give up to 2700 dollars to a candidate running for federal office like president, and you can either give that money by writing a check to the campaign or you
might do it by giving gmeth goods or services that are worth that much. you can't give more than that. and if y are a corporation, you can't give anything directly to a campaign. and so the allegations here are that cohen took out a loan against his house for over $130,000, used that to fund one payment, got "the " tional enquirich is a korpg to fund the other payment with a promise of repayment, and so you have both an individual making an excessive in kindti contri to the president, a corporation making an illegal contribution, a persol loan that is not reported, and contributions and expenditures at are not reporte so all of these can potentially be criminal campaign finance violations if they are done wiafully by the people whre involved. >> now the president has had multiple different defenses for this, originally months ago he said he didn't know about the payments.n' he dknow why michael cohen had made them, he didn't know where the money has come from. he has since anged that story some what.
today he reiterated a defense hs made many twhich this was a simple personal trans action is how he put it. what is he defending there? what do you make of the argument that he is putting forward? >> i make two argues today thasm was one of them, so one argument is that this was personal. it was not campaign related. and where the test is, is this o payment thad have been made irrespective of the campaign, would he have been paying off these women anyway? and there is good circumstances evidence that he would not hav and so one thing we know, with the stormie daniels paim is that stormy daniels was looking for payment foa long time and that payment didn't come until october 25th, 2016 jut before the election when the lawyer says that daniels is about to go to a media outlet and tell her story. so it doesn'klook liit's really personal, it looks like it's campaign related. and the other argument was about this is no different than what president obama has done. and there he was comparing kind of technical minor errors in perwork that are quickly
corrected with what looks like a scheme of over a year of trying to acover up and hid structure payments to avoid disclosing that these paymentsre ade in connection to the campaign. >> just touching on the prirpo t that you made-- prior point that you made, if then sendidate trump had made the payments in order to shield as some have argued his wife from these g barrassvelations, that would be considered legal, correct? or is that only if thy are there to shield voters from hearing about theseatllegations, s when it becomes illegal. >> well, i think if it is totally persal strk an easy case to a it is not campaign related. if is completely campaign related, then of course it has to be fed. this might be one of these mixed motive cases. so there are difrent tests out ere to figure it out. we saw this with the john edwards case, you may remember, a senator running for president heving his mistress getting paid by donors and they couldn't prove that it was the intent was campedgn relut here there might be documentary evidence, you certainly have the
potential evidence of cohen tht could prove that this was, in fact, intended to help the campaign rather than just to help trump personally. >> and the filing on friday prosecutors seemed tois acknowledge th point. ilwould like to read you something from ag. they described how cohen worked with the trump campaign officials saying with respect to both payments, cohen acted with e intent to influence the 2016 isesidential election. cohen coordinated actions with one or more members of thei ca, including through meetings and phone calls about the fact, nature and timing of those payments. aoesn't that, it seems to me, build the case t this was campaign and election related? >> it absolutely does. the thing is though that in order for to prove a criminal violation you have sto prove that each person involved in the conspiracy willfully violated. law. so that goes very much to trump's state of mind. so if we ever t to a point where there would be a trial or some kind of investigation into the question would be what do wo know what president trump was thinking. we have a pretty good idea of
what mihael coen was thinking. it is pretty good circumstance station evidence of what ump s thinking. but just the fact that cohen has agreed to plead guilty to this alone doesn't mean that trump is necessarily guilty of this crime. >> you wrote in a colume today in "slate" that if the presidjut wa an ordinary citizen, he would be in a lot more trouble than he is because he sits in the oval office, why is that? >> well, you know, there are both lal and political issues here. one is there is the question of whether a sitting president can be indated-- indicted. i understand long-standing policiest of justi is that a sitting president cannot be t indicted t is the question of where he could be in dieted. and politically we know that it would be politically explosive to come after the president for committing a felony whether it is campaign finance or something else. it would be explosive for mocrats to raise the possibility of optimism peachment based on this. this would really be a ratcheting up of the political
warfare that we have seefnltd tand is not clear even if thereg is a strong al case, that there what be a strong enough political role either in the department of justice whch is ultimately under the control of the attorney general who answers to the president, or to the democrats in congress, who might be wored about what the political ramifications would be going forward with an impeachment based on these kiensd of charges. >> all right, rick hasen, th you so much for your time. thank you. >> woodruff: workers at general motors are facing an uncertains future tliday season. the company announced it's stopping production at five factories. ice move would cost some 14,000 jobs in north am yamiche alcindor reports from detroit and lordstown, ohio-- two communities that depend on general motors. >> we just don't know for sure what's going to happen after june. >> reporter: peggy jones has worked at general motors for re than 20 years.
the good pay and benefits support her and the five grandchildren she's raising. >> it's kind of hard to think about what's going on, and all. >> reporter: but in late e vember, gm announced plans to begin shuttering fants in north america. they include peggy's plant, in hamtramck, michigan, which borders detroit. a gm executive camto make the announcement. >> she told us, she said, "the ocrs aren't selling and we're going to be an unaed plant. so, unallocated is supposed to w medon't have any product in our plant. so, it didn't register at first. >> reporter: unless gm brings ih a new car, ftramck's 1,300 hourly employees, no product means no work. >> no one came out and said, "no, it's not closing." ( crying ) i'm rry. i've been trying to stay strong for everybody at the plants, because they depend on me, but
i'm a human being too.ry >> i was aand then i was disappointed, and then i was okay, what are you going to do? what's the next move? >> reporter: d'nitra landon works on the hamtramck assembly line. n it brought me back to w was homeless before. yeah, it brought some shadows and some memories back. i'm in survival mode again. >> reporter: she and her famy spent a year squatting in this house, until she got a job at general motors. that was almost four years ago. her income helr to buy the home next door. >> i've never made this much money hourly before in my life, never had these great health benefits before in my life. >> reporter: she thinks gm .hould have communicated better with its employees >> we found out after the fact and that's not fair. that's just not fair. we're not robots that you can push a button and say, "okay, do this.
now do that." you have to explain to us what'u going on a as you can and that's all that anyoner an ever ask respect. >> reporter: gm is also idling a plsecond plant in michigan ones in ohio, maryland, and canada. the mpany is cutting production of sedans, which haven't been selling as well as crosvers and trucks. gm says it is slashing costs to invest in future technology, like electric and .lf-driving ca d, a statement to newshour, general motors swe are doing this while the compaar and economy strong and to address currt market conditions." factory jobs aren't the only es on the chopping block the company also plans to cut 15% of its salaried workforce- that's 8,000 white collar jobs. last week general motors c.e.o. mary barra traveled to capitol hill to meet with lawmakers from states that will suffer because of the company's cuts. >> it's incredibly difficult to
make these decisions. >> the arican consumer and taxpayer is not bailing out general motors again. everybody knows that. >> reporter: patrick anderson is the president of an auto industry consulting firm in east lansing, michigan. >> every auto executive in detroit remembers the '90s, the 2000s, the '80s when car companies like general motors built products even if theydn co sell them, just to keep the plants running. that led, along with a bunch ofs other mistto general mors' bankruptcy and >> reporter: for decades, gm has been the engine that's powered lordstown, ohio, population 3,200. last month's news struck the town like a bombshell: it will vy longer be home to the c cruze in 2019. the gmlant used to work around the clock manufacturing the cruze. but signs of tuble began almost two years ago when the company started cutting hours and laying off worrs. w i'll watch bella. >> reporter: tomikow and his fiancée, rochelle carlisle,
met while working at the factory. tey both lost their jobs same day in that first round of layoffs. >> when we walked out it was a surreal feeling, it was quiet as lchurch mouse. now it's two yeaer and still no one knows what's going to happen. it's like we've just been left to... left out to dry. >> i feel like its kind of corporate greed because gm's profiting more than they ever did in their history. >> reporter: rochelle has been supporting them and their daughters by working as a waitress. but friday, tommy finally got ao neas a diesel technician. here in 2016, president trump turned trumbull county-- which includes lordstown-- from blue to red. he vowed to keep and even crease jobs in auto manufacturing towns like this on but now, some in lordstown say those words ring hollow. >> let me and in this area, don't sell your house. don't sell your house.
do not sell it. we're going to get those values up. we're going to get those jobs coming back, and we're going to fill up those factories. or build new ones. >> he said to the crowd, he said, "don't sell your homes."i wellught a house two miles away from where i worked. he said, "jobs are going to be pouring ba in." i lost my job. it just kind of sounded like he was speaking to me, and i took him for his word. >> reporter: at his new job, he's making $10 an hour less. he still hopes to work again at gm. >> the plant isn't just theof heartbeat ordstown. it supports the entire surrounding mahoning valley. >> we're tough, we're gonna persevere. >> reporter: lordstown's mayor, arno hill, says small businesses around the factory are suffering, too-- like ross's pub, the after-work watering hole just down the street om the plant. >> we're very small and a lot of other businesses and other communities are hurting just like us, if not worse. for every gm job, it's said that seven jobs outside can be
directly affected. >> reporter: but, he insists there's still hope that motors will remain in the area. >> they're not permanently shuttering it. wso there's still hope th may get another plant and hopefully life goes on. >> reporter: meanwhile, in troit, employees like peggy jones are facing tough choices. they canpply for transfers based on seniority or wait for a new product that might never come. >> i can't sit around and wait for them to tell me that the plant's going to close. i can't sit there and 'til the last minute and then don't have any opportunities and just get laid off. i can't do that. >> reporter: d'nitra landon says the holidays won't be the same, with the threat of unemployment looming. but she's ill trimming her tree, and hoping for the best. >> i would never be homeless again, never. not ever. and my children won't ever. you'reaking a big chunk of what has kept me alive and brought me back to where i am. and now you're taking chunk of it away from me again.a so now i gcratch, i gotta heawl again. >> reporter: forpbs
newshour," i'm yamiche alcindor in detroit. >> woodruff: police have long established the connection between domestic violence ander mu but, as john yang tells us, a new analysis by the "washington post" finds domestic violenc plays an even larger role in the deaths of far too many women. the numbers are staggering: nearly half-- 46%-- of more than 4,400 women killed in the past decade died at the hands of an intimate partner.r: >> reporudy, "post" reporters analyzed data from 47 major u.s. cities.r in a cloamination of ermicides in five of those cities, the repofound that more than a third of the men implicated in a domestling were known to be potential threats. thg had a previous restrain order against them or had been
convicted of destic abuse or a violent crime-- including murder. and police told the "post" that attemprangulation is a strong indicator that an abusive relationship could turn deadly. katie zezima was the lead reporter of the "post" team who aveled around the country on this story and she joins us now. thanks for having me. >> were you surprised thetll by the volume, just the sheer numbers that you found in your repo i mean, it is a huge amount of women who are killed by their intimate paers. it is really reaching crisis e vel stsm nearly half, and you know, as peove told us, it is probably much larger than what we have already found. so what we found was 46 percent, that is just a huge number women killed by their intimate partner quns and you told some ally harrowing stories in this article. is there one case in particular that stands out to you that t typifi issues you found? >> in the case of a woman en fort worth, r name is mineras
sisneros, she arrived at the hespital one day, she was eight months pregnant,ad strangulation marks on her lip, a busd , and the authorities say that her common lahusbanused her and sent her to the hospital. the case kind lanished for a little while and once it was picked back up, th pice arrested the common law husband, minute everybodyad already given bitter to her third child by this point and she decided she did not want to pursue charges against the husband, the case had been opened up which alleged that she. >> child protective services case opened up. >> db she decided not to press charges and a tbrand jury did not indict him, that is a few months later, on christmas morning, their house is decorated for christmas t
smelled itke the bris t she had made the night before, and the mexican stew she had made the night before. their 911 call was put in, the common law husband said you know whatn went off, i done know happened. the police got there, minerva was shot once in the chest dead, the baby was alive lytong neck her and police said the is husband shot and kled her. >> she went to the hospital with strangulation marks around her neck.he saying that iseading indicate thary this could turn dead leigh. >> police and prosecutors and people who work with domestic violence are looking at attempted strangulation as a huge warning sign and say that within-- that boy frentds a attempted to strange el them had a much higher disibtd of being murdered byat partner. they are looking for warning signs of strangulation, you might think there no outward signs that women might have a hoarse or blood shot eyes or might be confused because theyn
lost oxy their brain so they are really trying to look for those signs right now, prosecutors in the county know what they know now, they areng tro intervene earlier in these case, they believe a case li, this onee may have lived if they had intervened earlier. >> in the story youay that restraining orders are ofen, officials, police tell victims that the first step, but as you say, it doesn't sound like they really result in anything. >> yeah, so you know, it is the first step t is the most basic step that womere told to do which is file a restraining order but avenue intes it creates a flash point in the relationship where the abuser o gets se and agitated-- agitated by the cling of this and can lash out in violence tha often be fatalment one prosecutor we spoke with said she tells women to filea restraining order with a backpack and a plan to get out of town, to leave once she files the restraining ordu er. ow, one woman without works with victims said it pretty bluntly that is not bulletproof vest, it can only
protect you in so many ways.he and reallynly way that they are enforced is when the abuser violates the restraining order and that could be a case of fatal violence. >> youlso say as we hae been talking about so many of these cases, there are warning signs kaitio tepped it. why do these still happen. >>. >> a lot of times women don want to report their abuse for many reasons, they don't want to press charges, they love themth there is alsfinancial component, they could be the bread winner in the family. they might not want to se custody of their children l is a myriad of reasons why wom don't want to file abuse charges against their loved one. a lot of times these red flags also aren't in the public domain, they are behind closed door death threats, things, close people around the couple may know that may not be in the public record. >> you also talk about a injures diction where they are tryg to fix things, they are making
starts,. >> one of the thingsare doing is prosecuting cases without the victim's contented-- consent, victims will sayi don't want to prosecute, we are they say we will take fothe case rward, he they do that using evidence such as medical recds, medical reports, witness interviews, that sort of thing and prosecute the case on the victims behalf sn't want toshe doe go forward with it. >> katie zezima, thank you very much, a disturbing story but porn one as well. >> thank you for having me. >> reporter: and if you or somee you know is the victim of domestic violence, experts suggest four ways to get help: contact police. seek medical help. call a help line like the national domestic vience hotline at 800-799-7232. and a help line should be able to put you in touch wi a domestic violence shelter in your area.
>> woodruff: now, let's turn atck to the fallout from robert mueller's investn and the rest of a flood of recent developments. we're joined by oupolitics monday duo, tamara keith of npr and amy walter of the "cook political report." hello it to both of you, so last week the ends of the week taketh up as we said a storm of filings, if you wiltl, by he special counsel, by district i attornnew york. so pretty explosive material in there, tam. the democrats, the focus now is on democrats and what arethey going to do about this as they begin to take over the house and have scle mort. what is your understanding of kind of the state of discussion among democrats? >> they seem to be pla ng it cool is point. really not-- they're trying not to use t "i" word of impeachment, rather the "iword
of investigation. they are kind of wanting to let mueller, let that run its course and see where it stands. there is not, you know, many candidates ran on impeaching the president but not mos democrats. most democrats ran on health care. and reducing prescription drug costs and policy, on governing.e and y are-- they see a cautionary tale in what the lepublicans did with bil clinton. they don't have enough democrats or republicans in the senate to convict, so even ify have the votes to impeach, they don't have the votes to remove him from office. so they are very cautious, seeing where the political dynamics, whetheamthose dyns change. >> you saw it on display this weekend, if you watch the sunday shows and the various democrats who will soon-- especially in the house who will soon be committee chai people, were
definitely incredibly cautious. i just want to hihthl this exchange that jerry, who will be the incoming judiciarycommittee chairman had with jake tapper over the weekend where he said to jake's question, yes, if itha is foundthe president did knowingly, willingly vey latmpe gn finance law by payines agreeing to pay them off, then he said this is jerry -- that would be an impeachable sfense. then he goes on whether it is important enough to justify impeachment is a different question. so that is really, i think where so many democrats are grappling with which is what do we know in to be able to justify an impeachment, will we know itwh we see it? it is going to have flashing yellow lights all around it or will we get pressee from th base, the long ther goes on and the longer we 'tn have a conclusion from bob mueller but we have little filings coming up every once in once in a while l.
>> because that presh-- pressure is real, the base slooking at it, and say wait a minute, we have been waitinyefor twors. and we don't like what is happened. not everybody out there voted democrat, but a lot of them. >> certainly there is a portion of the democratic bse that wants, just wants trump out by any means necessary. but you have peopikle le jerry nadler who is not a supercautious conservative democrat, who is saying well, let's see-- you they, this is-- . >> woodruff: new york city. >> right, this becomes a political question morthan a legal question. and the politics are, you know-- as long as this is purely partisan, as long as pol shows that, you know, republicans think it is a witch-hunt and democrats think it is toally justified, then if democrats move ahead with something like impeachment, then it becomes this wrenching
political ing that just continues to push on the same di vietions that existed >> but keeing these things under control can be challenging. t amy, let'salk about what i talked to yamiche, what i t about, what is the president going to do you now, his second chief of staff , stepping down and john kelly didn't get along so well the names we heard publicly, the president was interested in, hve said thy're not interested but there are other names floating around. how important is the job off ch staff in this white house? >> yeah, it used to be a really important job. it used to be the kind of jb that everybody in washington would want to have. yor put that on youresume and you are pretty much, you know, set for life in this ton. this is not a job that anybody wants right now. they know what comes with the rritory. it is an impossible job to actually be able to do correctly. and what you also have is a white house that is stihall as e known from the very beginning, it's being run in the same way trump has run erything else in his life. it is pretty chaotic.
there is no real hierarchy of command. it is very seat of your pants. d the real chapping eng, and i think there are plenty of folks in the white house who know this but can't do much about it, is when dem contracts take control of congress next y this is a white house who is really belowfully understaferred at every level. there was a story in "the washington post" this weekend where anmoano staffer was asked about whether in is a war room set up to deal with the mueller investigation. and democrats coming in an potentially all these different investigations. and the source basically laughed and said war room? you think we-- what makes you think we would have something as organizeds a war roo we just kind of go as we have always gone, with where the president is goinlo we fol >> it is a different kind of white house. >> absolutely. it is a different kindf white house. president trump has embraced the chaos. that is how--hat is his natural environment that is what he wants. and he, he sort of returns it to
the mean. you know, if john kels supposed to come in and bring llyucture and event president trump found ways to have new people he blut brought on not rort to ke but report to him so that he could get back to the sor of warring factions and structure that he, or lack of structure that he finds comforting. this white house is setting cords for turnover. and i know we ha talked about this before. but-- . >> woodruff: an we'll continue to talk about it. and we will continue. it is remarkable. >> woodruff: it is, just very quickly to both of you. we're watching in michigan and in wisconsin, efforts by outgoing republicans itheir state legislative and state house races, amy and tam, to hold on toocower as demts come in. is this something we watch, is this going to wash away?hi >> no, i this is the kind of thing, a republican controlled legislature in michigan and wisconsin, incin democrats at statewide level are trying to, republicans in those
states trying to diminish the influence the executive branch has had. it could have a short term positive impact but it may have a longer-term negative impact, both on what democrats do in the long-term, right, they're notg go forget this, or what happens if democrats get back into control. e come back and bite tm. >> and this is why you have democrats at a national level so focused on retris dicting and the 20us census bee they got burned last time around and they don't want to get burned agin. and redistricting and the control of state legislatures are very much linked especially as democrats see it. >>epublicans rakedin after the last census and redistricting democrats don't want it to happen again 789 tamara keith, amy wall tore, thank you, politics mondou. >>e welcome.
>> woodruff: it's winter, it's e dark by 5:00, and there many rabbit holes beckoning to you onour computer screen and your phone. yet, there's an alternative. many of you will recognize peter nd the hoste voice of npr's "wait wait... don't tell me!" tonight he shares his humble opinion on the joys of running. >> this is atrange thing to y from the other side of the screen, that you happen to be stairing at but gosiut, right now. okay, wait until i'm done. ee minutes tot find your shoes and get a coat if you need one. we spend our timw starring at screens for our work, our entertainment, our news, when for whatev reason wean't look at a screen we put in headphones and listen to mg, sic, a podcast to wile away the otherwise unbearable time our eyes have tbeocused on something else like the road
we're driving down. there are people who with their ear phone nses listening to a podcast in order to dried off. sometimes my podcast or so they tell me and i don't exactly know w 20 to feel about that. what that means is we hardly spend a minute of our waking life without input. somebody else's thoughts inundating our own. why? whutwhat is it abour own thoughts that are so unbearable that we can't stand to spend a minute alone with them? there is one way to find out, turn it a off and go outside, run if you feel up to it oryb even if you don't. this is the primary reason i advocate running for everyone wh pishysically capable. yes, you might lose weight and gain fitness and feel more alert and awake and evn enjoy nature's best anti-depress ant,s endorput that is really not the most important reason to run, what running really is, is way to leave this digital dystopia behind if only for air little while and a few miles. humans evolved over millions of years, shaped byr environment
which historically did not include bluetooth ear buds. why did some an shentd ancestor of ours in central africa first stand on her back legs. it was to look around. it was to pay attention. it was to stop crawling and to walk and to run. andhen you emulate her today, when you turn off the fire hose oft inpu use 20 drown our own thoughts, when you simply move with noing in your ears bu air, you are returning step-by-step to what we were mentd to do,and meant to be. go. >> woodruff: advice to live by. and that's e newshour for >> woodruff: all that and more is on our web site, pbs.org/newshour.at and the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us on-line and again hereni tomorrow e. for all of us at the "pbs newshour," thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by:
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