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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: the president's formeral persttorney is sentenced to three years in federal prison, saying in court he felt upit was his "duty to cove mr. trump's "dirty deeds." then, british prime minister theresa may survives a no-confidence te, but the future of a brexit deal remains uncertain. plus, a potential bipartisan breakthrough on criminal justice reform. we talk to senators from both sides of the aisle about t bill. and, how one historic maryland town is weighing takindrastic measures to protect itself from climate change. >> if you don't take this bold step, then what will be left of the town if another storm happens? >> woodruff: all that and more,
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arranging hush money payments over mr. trump's alleged sexual affairs, and for lying about his boss's business dealingsn russia. cohen said nothing after leaving federal court in new york. he was ordered to suder on march 6, to begin serving his time. we get more now from andrea bernstein of wnyc, who was in the courtroom today. so, andrea, i think we've got upusedo it being almost a spectacle, these court scenes, when various defendants, people accused have shown up. tell us about wht the scene was today. >> well, inside the cowatroom, therreal drama because there was -- we didn't know what was going to happen, and there were many members of cohen's family there, his prents, his children, his brother, and jus a packed courthouse. it's the first time a new york courtroom i've heard
everything from tai medallions to russia. >> woodruff: bit about the exchanges between the judge and what cohen himself had to say. >> right, so this was a very different sentencing hearing. i have been to a lot of sentencing hearings and, usually, what happens is the defense lawyers will say that their client is really a good person who has just gone astray this once andndeserves iency and the prosecutors will say, no, no, it was a serious crime. today both sides said democracy depends on the sentence here. cohen's lawyers were arguing he deserves leniency, ooperated with the special counsel, he testified against the most nitedful man in the u states, president trump, and the judge should be sending a signal to other cooperators that they should comd e forward, anthe prosecutors in the u.s. attorney's office werearguing, no, no, he committed serious campaign finance violations, he
defraud it did american people and the i.r.s., and if that's not give answerrous sentence it will give a message to otherey people that an do the same. so it's a very difference sentencing hearing. >>oodruff: you wersaying they were speaking democracy itself depends on how the sentencing turns out. >> that's right, and it was interesting because the judge said there was a point at which -- cohen obously asked for no jail time, and the judge said to him, you cannot just wipe the slate clean. to congress, y have lied to banks, you have lied to the i.r.s., you have lied to the american people, you have committed all these crimes of deception for personal greed and ambition, and he then gave cohen the sentence. however, it was reduced fromt whatuld have been. under the guidelines, cohen would have gotten four or five years for the crimes he pleaded.
guilty to to so getting three years, the judge was saying, okay, you're reditng a little bit of for helping out, but if we wipe ning theay we're under american democracy and electoral system. >> woodruff: what about cohen himself, andrea? whatid he have to say? >> last summer in the croorm he ndme in, was relaxed, looked straightforward,hen he gave this impassioned appeal ent wase said the presid correct in calling me weak. i was weak because i did not stand up m and, instead, i covered up his dirty deeds. and that was an extraordinary admission for a man who really came to public light when the dossier was released at the beginning of the trump presidency, which, at that time, said that cohen had tried to cover up the russia collusion. so it sort of camell circle today with the special counsel saying, actually, cohen had helped them in anteria
credible ways in their investigation of what they lled cooperation, russian cooperation with the 2016 campaign, coordination. >> woodruff: and jus wvery quicklve also learned something today from the southern district of new york, the prosecutors there, about these hush payments. >> right. so the owners of the "national enquirer" called a.m.i. signed a nonprosecution agreeme which was released today, and they also described the scene that cohen had previously admitd to, which was agreeing that they'd pay stormy daiels a sum of money and hold on to her story and not release it, and they also agreed this was the arrangement that they had made at the outset of the campaign that they'd make paymes to make sure that these women's ories never reached the light of day, and if judge was very clear today when he said when that happens in tte stages
of the election it underminesis democracy anot okay. >> woodruff: andrea bernstein describing the day we just had today. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, british prime ministerma theresturned back a bid to unseat her as leader of the conservative party. according to supporters she promised to step down anyway, before the next national elections in 2022. it all stemmed from resistancet to the breal she negotiated with the european union. we will have a full report, after the news summary. hundreds of police searched across easte france today for the gunman who attacked a famed christmas market in strasbourg. he is accused of killing at least two peop and wounding a dozen. jonathan miller of independent television news reports from e rasbourg. >> reporter: franc back on max alert.sb the strg lockdown failed to snare the gunman. a full-scale internation manhunt in full swing echoes of the berlin christmas market attack two years ago. the festive spirit of this city,
sacked. the blood of innocents splashed again in the european streets.>> he security level will never be high enough to avoid an attack from a mad person. it's absolutely unavoidable. what can you do? >> reporter: the fugitive suspect, named tonig as cherif chekatt, french citizen, strasbourg born and bred. he had been on the terrowatch list. he'd opened fire in three locations. the screams are trulchilling as he rampaged through the christmas tourist heartland of this beautiful old city, killing randomly as he reportedly yelled "allahu akbar." he evaded capture by commandeering a taxi and making his escape. >> ( translated ): during hisop journey, hed fire several times with a handgun, and used a knife with which he seriously injured and killed people. faced with four soldiers from the sentinel operation, he fired in their direction.
they shot back, and he was injured in the arm.te >> rep the european parliament was in session at the time. today, ty held a minute's silence. >>translated ): we have to go forward. we shoul this is why yesterday we continued to work in the plenary session. >> reporter: the truth is, habits have changed, though. it's just that seeing - ready troops patrolling streets is normal now. >> woodruff: that reportrom jonathan miller of independent television news. the united states senate moved today to consider ending military support for the saudi- esd coalition fighting in yemen. the resolution cmid bipartisan anger over the murder of saudi journalist jamal ashoggi. u.s. intelligence agencies have concluded that the saudi crown prince ordered the killing. meanwhile, the u.s. house will not consider u.s. involvement in the yemen war, for the rest of this year.
republican leaders narrowly pushed through that proviso today during the debate on the farm bill. the bill itself passed easily, and it now goes to president trump for his signature. it's worth $867 billion over a span of ten years.t we will e details, later in the program. d turkey, president recep tayyip erdogan warday that he is ready to assault u.s.-backed kurdish forces in eastern syria. the y.p.g. militia has fought the islamic state group, but erdogan says the militia is linked to kurdish rebels inside turkey. in ankara today, he said an offensive is imment, but is not aimed at american forces helping the kurds. >> ( translated ): we have said, and we are saying again, that we will start the operation to clear the east of the euphrates from separatist terrorists in a couple of days. our target is never u.s. soldiers. our target is separatist teheorists who are active in region. >> woodruff: in washington, the
pentagon said thatny unilateral military strike into northeastern syria would be unacceptable. there is word that u.s. investigators believe china engineered the cyber-attack on marriott's starwood hotels. the breach exposed the personal data of some 5 million guests. reports in the "new york times" and "washington post" say the marrio hack was part of a broader effort by china's ministry of state security. the news comes as the trump administration is preparing to take action against china over its trade and cyber actions. congressional negotiators agreed today on overhauling sexual misconduct rules for lawmakers and aides. the compromise bill updates decades-old rules on reporting such claims. members of the house and senate would be personally responsible for financial settlements, instead of charging them to taxpayers. on wall street today, stocks managed to regain a littlegr
nd. the dow jones industrial average was up 157 points, to close at. 24,5n thasdaq rose 66, and the s&p 500 added 14. mand, the u.s. national f registry is adding "jurassic park," "my fair lady," and "brokeback mountain," and mo than 20 other movies. the library of congress announced its annual selections today. their addition makes a total of 750 films tapped for special preservation sce the registry began 30 years ago. still to come on the newshour: the british prime minister survives a no-confidence vote following troubled brexit negotiations. two senators discuss a potential bipartisan breakthrough onal crimustice reform. what's inside the latest farm bill moving through congress. and, much more.
>> woodruff: we return now to the crucial no-confidete that british prime ministerha theresa masurvived. as nick schifrin reports, this unexpecd challenge to mrs. may comes amid the larger chaos of the drive toward brexit. >> the results of the ballot held this evening is that the parliamentary committee does have confidence-- ( applause ) >> schifrin: and with that, the head of the conservatives' parliamentary committee announced that british prime minister theresa may survived. >> the numr of votes cast in favor of having confidence in theresa may is 200, and against was 117. >> schifrin: that hush spoke to a political fight that was close and difficult. but tonight, may projected confidence. >> this has been a long and challenging day, but at the end of it, i'm pleased to have received the backing of my
colleagues in tonight's ballot.: >> schift has been a tumultuous 48 hours, after her brexit deal faced intense, resistand she pulled the vote. and then this morning, members of her own party triggered a vote to oust her as their party's, and britain's, leader. so instead of attending a planned meeting in dublin to fight for her versn of brexit, may headed back to the house of commons to fight forob. >> the public voted to leave the european union. they want us to secure a deal th delivers on that result and we shouldn't risk handing control of the brexit negotiatio to opposition m.p.s in parliament, because that would mean risking delaying exit or even stopping brexit. >> schifrin: may's defenders called the vote of no-confidence a waste of te. >> can my right honorable frienn think of anymore unhelpful, irrelevant, and irresponsible than for the conservative party to embark on weeks of a conservative leadership election? >> schifrin: may might have survived, but her brexit plan remains controversial, especially the so-called irish
"backstop." right now, northern irelan part of the united kingdom, and the republic of ireland, part of the europn union, have no land border, and cars and goods can cross easily. w may's planld keep that border open, but cousu leave britaiect to european union customs rules indefinitely. conservative politicians argued her version of brexit didn't break the relatiship with europe enough. but she also faces opposition from the left, and labour party leader jeremy corbyn. >> t delay by this government is over. >> schifrin: may has tried to convince europe to tweak theal in emergency meetings with european officials yesterday. but they held firm, vowing no new negotiations o gconcessions, man chancellor angela merkel said today. >> ( translated ): we do not have any intention of changing the withdrawal agreement. this is the general position of the 27 member states, and therefore no changes can be expected at the end of our debates. >> schifn: after surviving, tomorrow, may heads a
european union meeting, where she'll once again ask for concessions that the e.u. vows not to grant. m and winow on today's vote and where brexit goes from here is robin niblett. he is thdirector of chatham house, the british think tank and research institute. thank you very much for being on the "newshour". can you just tell us how we got here? why did nservatives push for a no-confidence vote? >> i think we gote -- i mean there's been a bubbling sense of dissatisfaction with prime minister may for quite a while now, but we here specifically because she withdrew very unexpectedly the oprtunity for members of parliament to vote on her deal on monday, and she has members of her cabinet outaying that she absolutely was going to stick with this vote and call and let the cookie crumble as it might, see how many votes go through, and she pulled it a the last minute. i think there was a sense deeply in the conservative party, this is the prime minister who botched the election a year ago
that some of the lack of political skill gave an opening for those to call a wnonconfidence voteithin the conservative party. >> there is criticism of her deal from multiple angles and she said she would try to answer the criticism by talking to the european union again, ing back testament u. and getting a better deal. but nothing changed from the european union, we heard from chancellor merkel of germany today. so is prime minister may in a better or worition to try to get some kind of tweak for deis brexi that's been negotiated for two years? >> i thinke.u.27 leaders know theresa may is not going to move, she' gnot going too. she cannot be challenged again by the conservative rty for her leadership for twelve months. there is a possibility of no-confidence vote by the whole of parliament in the government, but i think the whole of conservative will hang together.
so e.27 knws that theresa may is the person they're going tove o do the deal with and extensive opposition to the type ruck.al being but given that there is no majority in the british parliament for a vy hard brexit, one in which in essence the u.k. would drop out with no pdeal, nor is there any ite, i think, for a second referendum unless it can be possibly avoided. it all comes down to tweaks that an be done on the del, side bar commitments, what you described in your story, the backstop, the insurance policy of what would come into effect if no agreement wastruck by the end of 2020. both sides could say this is the st resort, maybe we wouldn't extend more than one year the agreement for a future relationship to be negotiated in this period. to be frank, the best they ll be able to do is tweak around the edges, and think theresa may has to come back to parliament and challenge theer
leto say, if you don't want this deal, what's the alternative? a's either no deal or a second referendum and tho the most palatable choices. >> she's going to have a month to take the tweaks and try to sell to parliament at this point. is a second referendum likely or trying to brng down the whole government or a crash out of the european union? >> look, there is definitely no majorityrliament for a crash out of the european union for a no deal. i think the prospects of a second referendum are much, much higher than they were even two or three weeks ago. i would put them certainly in the 40% range, maybe drifting toward 50%, for the simple reason that parliamencannot agree on what type of brexit to drive through, and we know the conservative party, which would have to carry the deal, iriven and deeply split. so the possibility of a second
referendum, which could be carried out pretty qukly, is definitely, i think, on the rise. however, just because thre's a second referendum doesn't mean you end up with anpproval for it. what's in the eestion? is t question theresa may's aeal may remain? theresa may's l which is not very popular or just simply leave? it's a very difficult set of questions. if there's a second referendum, there is a possibility the country would vote still to leave bublprobaleave around theresa may's deal. >> neighborhood director of chatham e, we'll have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> woodruff: u.s. senate majority leader mitcnnell says the senate will take up criminal justice reform before leing for the year. the "first step act" would address prison and sentencing reform, cluding: lowering mandatory minimum
sentences for drug convictions. expanding recidivism reduction programs in prisons. and placing prisoners no more than 500 miles from their families. it h broad bipartisan support on capitol hill, and the backing of the white house. joining me are two senators who have been pushing this overhaul. republican chuck grassley of iowa, who chairs the judiciary committee. and democrat dick durbin of illinois, who is the minority whip. gentlemen, good to have you both with us. senator grassley, ita few weeks ago that the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell wanoexpressin a lot of enthusiasm for this bill. what changed? >> well, we just proceeded, as you have to do, through the legislative process. you know, you have to have 60 votes to get something done, so show me 60 votes, so we showed him 60 votes. how are you going get by th president? so we negotiated with the
president to get hion board, and he's on board. then how are you going to get through the house of representatives? we confenced with the house of f representatives so ihow the legislative process works, we did everything that needs to be done and, once it got done, ems to me there was no excuse for not bringing it up and we gotrobably 75 votes r it, at least, i would say. >> woodruff: there clearly were ome modifications made in the bill. what was done in this bill and who worked o this? >> well, i started six years ago, i believe, with s ator mike led we realized we couldn't get to first base without the chairn of the committee, chuck grassley. we worked on changes so the bill could be supped by senator grassley along the way. cory booker joined us. we've had an amazing group of democrats and republicans. yes, the bill changed. it is not my original bill. golearned a long time a if you're determined to get the
e iginal bill without changes, you never will happen. we had to find compromises that didn't compromise the basic values we were fighting for >> reporter: as senator durbin was sayeing,tor grassley, e and aere changes mad shift in the languagin th substance of the bill, but there is still oppition among your colleagues. senator tom cotton of arkansas says, yes, he likes some these changes, but it still would allow for e arly releaof criminals who committed violent offenses, bank robberies where they were using dangerous weapons, sexual assaults. how do you answer a criticism like this? >> well, e's wrong, first of all. there isn't anybody going to get out of prison as a result of our sentencing reform part of it. everybody realizes with mandatory minimums there are some unfairness in it, aisnd is to address the unfairness
issue. , so you know,ou might have a 25-year sentence, and somebody in prison feels it's not fair, so you go back tor the pecutor before you even go to the judge that, between the precutor and he judge, you can make a case that maybe you ought to have a yo-year or a 10-year sentence in place, and if convince the judge, that coyod happen, but re not going to get out on the street as a result of a judge's decision. so that's why i say that senator cotton is wrong on that point. >> woodruff: well, i asked sabout that because heying he has yet to be satisfied on it. >> well, he isn't going to be satisfied and he knows it. today this conversation with i hiaid, you know, just look up the record, you an vote together 92 or 93% of the time, and he says, wel, i ust have been wrong 7% of the time. well, heas wrong 7% of the time and he's wrong on this. >> woodruff: senator durbin,
on the other hand, there has been opposition from liberal groups who believe the sentencing rules, regulationbe laws hav far too strict, that they have been too harsh. they've required people to ve time -- much more time that be they should have served. how does this legislation address their concerns? >> well, it doesn't give them all they wanted or all that i want, but thafs the nature a bipartisan compromise. but what it boils down to is we went and said when it came to the sentencing provisions that the if you have committed ag non-violent drfense without the use of a weapon and you are willing to cooperate with the government, with the precution, you will be eligible to be considered for a lower minimum setence -- eligible. no mandate on the judge. it's still up to theiron discrehen it comes to the criminal records, for example, of those before them. so to re are some uld like to have gone forward, and i did, too. but in order to getbi this ll moving forward with the support of groups likame the ican
civil liberties union and the paternal order of police, we really struck an amazing balance here. wegee got to take advanf this when we can. it's seldom you find theouse together on anything. >> and who was responsible -- i mean, who's been th main impetus behind this, senator durbin? >> well, i introded it with senator lee. we brought it to senat grassley. its been the grassley-durbin bill for some time now but we're happy to have senators lee and booker with us. we've worked together with this and i mightadd with suort from the white house, it's been absolutely esntial. >> let me add, jared kushner, son a law and aisor to the president, is a big force in moving this bill along. he is now in particular big force in getting the president to back it, and the president has quite a reputation for being tough on law enforcement, and we nall know he is toughaw enforcement, and to have his backing, and he had a news conference, and he says, my pena is to sign this bill.
>> woodruff: senator grassley, how do you explain the shift, though, in attitudes in the last few decadmb? we all re the time or many of us remember the time when there was this vey rtough on crime, war on drugs attitude. aere seems to have beehift in thinking over the last 20 or so years. >> yeah.ca part of it's e of the high cost of incarceration, part of it is a result of texas-mississippi-georgia, maybe other states, proving that ifn you trople and make them productive citizens, when they get out you don't have them returning to the high costs of prison, and you also don't have as much crime because you've got to commit another crime to get put back in prison, and then thf the unjustified sentences that were given and feeling tht we've got to be more fair if you're going to have respect for
the judicial system. >> senator durbin, what would you add to that? how do you think attitudes have changed and why haveey changed? >> well, we've got ablittle bit smarter. we want to make our neighborhoods safer, that's for sure. we want to reduce the proatspect omebody who's dangerous is going to be on the streets, but we realize that having somebody serve 20 years or a life prison for the simple sale of narcotics without a violent crime, without a gun, went too we want to be a lot smarter, and as chuck said, we've learned from a lot offstatre are things you can do to make available to prisoners so we'ren certain hey leave they won't commit another crime, avoiding another victim, incarceration and bill to the taxpayers and ends upth another procte life. those have been proven by many states to be effective. >> woodruff: sorgrassley, clearly bipartisanship work at here. is this esign of things to co
or a one-time-only situation? >> no, i think it's a good sign, and the senate promotes some bipartisanship because you've got to have 60 votes, but people have good faith towards each other, can get together, and the senate isn't as divided as people in the grassroots think it is we do speak o each other, we work together, and, so, i ink it's good news for the future. >> woodruff: senator durbin, do you think we're going to see any more to have the two pesr working together on significant legislation? ou will, and even as we're waiting for this program to start, chuck and were starting about other legislative activity that we share the same views on. we're going to continue to work together. we trust one another. i couldn't bhihere with s bill without him, and i'm not sure he would have the democratic support without myself and senator book around others, so it proves it can be
done. >> woodruff: how about the border wall, immigration? (laughter) >> that's a little bit of evasion, but you're never going to get 100 senators or even two friends in the uniates senate of different parties to agree on everything, but you wo together when you cand this is an example of where we're working together, and we might have views on difre things, but we're still going to speak to each other and get along and see what we can do together, and there's no end to that, if you want to be a good senator. >> it's a midwestern thing, judy. >> yeah, that's right, too. >> woodruff: iad to ask. senator dick durbin, senator chuck grassy, thank you both. >> thank you very much. >> woodruff: and stay with us. coming up on the "newshour", >> woodruff: and stay with us. coming up on the newshour: how one historic town is considering drastic action to counter the effects of climate change. and, a new book details the life and death of a war correspondt. but first, let's look at another major piece of legislation
making its way through coness this week. at is a wide-ranging farm bill ould cost $867 billion over ten years, and reauthorize various farm and food progra for five years. among other things, this farm bill would provide new help for dairy farmers, and legalize industrial hemp. it also avoid cuts that had been proposed to the food stamp program. our own lisa desjardins joins me now from capitol hill, to dig into the details of this legislation. so, lisa, remind us, overall, what's in the bill and why does this bill matter. >> this bill is critical to a large part of america that doesn't necessarily live in cities and towns but keeps thi country fed. there are 2 million farms in this country, judy, and that number has been decreasing. what's more, farmers in america since 2013 have seen their net income -- listen to this -- drop by half. at the farm bill does is it keeps programs in place th s hebilize farms. some of them are subsidy programs, some insance
programs, but if it doesn't get reauthorized, farmers have less peability, and these arople who basically are wall street traders on trctors every day, prices matter, and this bill helps them get loans and pay for and stay in the next season. without it there's a lot of instability. >> woodruff: one of the things we mentioned with dairy farmers, what kind of help are they getting and how does that make a difference? >> it's significant because dairy farmers iparticular have been hit by taliation from the trump tariffs. in this bill, this will expand the program that is a safety net for dairy farmers and give them seven times the protection they had in the last farm bill. it will allow more farmers to take advantage of that dairyic support, and, also, judy, it's important to note ome conservatives wanted to tack the idea of subsidy reform. that is not in this bill. that's a bigger conversation. that's one reason why people like chuck grassley voted no.
but dairy farmers are some of the winners in the bill. >> woodruff: another part of the bill that got attention is the food stamps, the so-called snap program. tell us how the bill changesth . >> the spending makes up for 80% of the farm bill's funding, and there was a huge fight over whether there should be more woquirements. the food stamp program or snapil reaches 42on people, but there will be no changes that could mean cuts in that program. some conservatives wanted to add work requirements that would have led to fewer people getting those benefits, but thawon't happen in this bill. instead, judy, as learned from s multipurces on both sides of the capitol, that the secretary of agriculture is expected to get administrative power to launch a new rule that could mean more people especially in cities and towns might have to abide by workin requirementsther words, cities couldn't opt out to have the work requirements. we will have to watch for that.r
>> wf: of course, it's a farm bill, but there is also language that addss wildfires. so tell us about that. >> this is pivotal. therneare som provisions happened over the last year that happened over better use, better guaranteed funding to fight wildfires. but, judy, what's most significant here, is some conservatives wanted to change rules to allow for more logging and clear cutting, they say something that will prevent wildfires. say environmentalists are getting in the way. however, democrats put up ala e fight and said that's a problem, too much logging would come from the changes and, in the end, the changes were no made. so a victory for environmentalists on that part of the bill. >> woodruff: a finally, lisa, language in here about the legalization of hemp. >> right. is is a big deal, a potential $20 billion industry. this is hapning because senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky, a state whch has a very large hemp industry, wanted to move hemp from being a
controlled substance, which it is now, to not a controlled substance. quickly, there is an oil created from hemp that does t have t.h.c. in it, and this is a victory for mitch mcconnell f personally ar the hemp industry at large, some of which goes tomedical purposes and other things. so it's something to watch very closely. >> woodruff: well, a lot going on inside this farm bill, anwe are so glad to have you to help us understand. lisa desjardins at the capitol, thank you. >> woodruff: climate change is forcing many communities across the country to think about new ways of adapting. one town in maryland has been hit especially hard. john yang and a team of students from the university of maryland capital news service visited ellicott city, to explore the town's future, and produced this report for our weekly segment, the "leading edge."
>> yang: it's a town peopleve its streams and hills, its historic architecture and aint shop it's no surprise that "money" magazine recently named ellicott city, maryland one ofst america's laces to live. so attractive that, in recentts years,opulation has exploded. it was origimilly built as a town, channeling multiple waterways down to the flour millone of the first in the country. it has a hisry of flooding. the thing about elliot city is that about 250 years ago, it was signed to do exactly wha has happened during these floods. >> yang: but the 21st century effects are very different. outgoing howard county councilman jon weinstein represented the town for fou years. >> every drop of water that falls in this watershed converges at this point and is constricted. it goes where it wts to go. it's a combination of climate change, upstream development and just simply the way the town is built. >> i havto say, you know, i'd
have my doubts, if it were raining really hard, if i'd want to come and shop in ellicott city at that time. >> yang: for 20 years, joan eve shea-cohen has had an antique business, that she runs with some help from her friend gary weltner. >> i worry that suddenly, one day, there will be no ellicott city, maryland. >> howard county 911. >> oh my god. >> yang: in 2016, a devastating flood destroyed the downtown business district. n? ma'am, what's going >> the water is abov the door. it's coming in the building. we need someone to come in. we have no place to go up. oh my god. >> what's, w>>t's going on? here are cars, there areg cars flywn the street. >> yang: it was called a freak storm, a once-in-a-lifetime event. three people dead. most buildings in the lower town gutted. joan eve and other people of main street dipped into their life savings to rebuild. they would come back stronger than ever. >>too doubts that i was goin
come back. >> yang: she took what had been, destrond made it sparkle. then this past memorial day inekend, main street learned it had not been a onc- lifetime storm after all. >> i remember, early in the day it was beautiful. and sometime in the mid- afternoon, another shop owner came up and visited, and said, you know, the rain is starting, and it's not looking good. ed we of course kept an eye on the water, and dechat this could become a very serious situation, but hopefully not a repeat of 2016.ou but suddenly, i would say it was around 4:15 p.m., we noticed that the water that was coming over onto the sidewalk was now starting to come in the front door. beennd gary, if he hadn' there, i don't know what i would have done. i don't think i would have made it. >> so as the water startedve coming in, we a few things, thinking that all of this is going to pass. and it didn't. the water continued to come in.
i tried the back door of the building and it s dead-bolted. >> then he went to the front door and he could not open that door. the pressure of the water from the street was already rising, and he couldn't open the door. and when he did try to push it a watere bit, then all thi started coming in, and then it was coming in. >>het one point, when i'm at front of the shop, i noticed that there were two cars very close together, actually floating dowthe street. >> and gary he was amazing. he just fosed, he focused on what we should do. >> and suddenly thback corner, left corner of the building just exploded. when that moment arrived, the showcases that were at the back suddenly started falling over, almost domino-like.>> t was like, oh my god, you know, how are we going to get out of here? i mean, we couldn't get out e back door, and now all of a sudden, showcases are following me around in the water and, and toppling over. and i d not want to drown in
my store. >> and as we are moving quickly to the front of the building, you know, ready to get out, i looked back and i saw a very large, all-glass showcasetu ling into joan eve's direction. so much was happening so quickly, and i knew that if i lost my focus, that we may lose our lives. >> but gary had the smarts. he took an antique candlestick telephone, which was made out of metal, and he broke the glass id the top of tr, and he just said, joanie, i want you to hold onto me as tight as you can. do not let go. >> inside of the store, it was probably about just above our knees. but outside, when we did step out into it, idiwas almost imely up to the waist. >> yang: to get from joan eve's shop to a cond floor porch right overhere, gary dragged himself along this railing, with joan eve on his back. >> howarcounty 911. >> yang: someone spotted them,
and called 911. k there are two people st tiber river. the water is almost above their heads. >> as we crossed the bridge, the water was up to our chins, and i thought, if we had waited three or four minutes more, we probably would not be sitting here today talking to you. >> yang: the town's leaders had to do something. what they proposed was radical-- tearing down ten buildings here in the historic heart of this town, including joan eve's shop here.at ould widen the river channel, and create an open space.op they that would reduce the severity of future floods by allowing the water to spread out. the cost? $50 million. the fate of ellicott city is now in the hands of the incoming county council. many have doubts about spending $50 million when there are demands for more schools, more roads, more housing.or some arefied by the idea of destroying buildings in the heart of town. former councilman weinstein
understands the dilemma. >> i think it's a valid concern. but then you have to weigh that with the practical aspects of, if we don't take thi step, then what will be ift of the toanother storm happens? >> i jt think that it is unfortunate at these buildings have become, essentially, the victim of urban developmen >> if you have to have buildings removed for e safety of the people, what, why is there any boher thought? >> i think the most recent event in florida, and what happened in north carolina, and what's happened in puerto rico and what has happened in texas, and the wildfires in california. and i can truly empathize with these people. so, i think we need to take a very good look at the decisions that are made, so we can guarantee a healthier earth for future generations.
>> yang: these people are hardly alone in facing climate changes, but here, the question is immediate. do they have to destroy the heart of town in order to save its future?an can they come up with an answer before the next big rain? r the pbs newshour, i am johnco yang in ellitt city, maryland. >> woodruff: "time" magazine named its "person of the year" yeerday, choosing a group journalists they dubbed "the guardians of truth." nick schifrin is back now, with the author of a new book who tells the lifetory of another reporter killed for her own guardianship of the truth. >> schifrin: 6.5 years ago, the world lost a memorable and vital voice. marie colvin was a foreign correspondent for the "sunday times" in londonand one of the most remarkable war reporters of her generation.er she covered conflict, from beirut in the mid-'80s to the
d r in syria, where she was killed by the asgime. back in 2001, she lost her left eye in sri lanka, and a few weeks later, she wrote "why do i cover wars." "i did not set out to be a war correspondent. it has always seemed to me that what i write about is humanity in extremis, and that it is important to tell people what really happens in wars." "in extremis: thlife and death of the war correspondent marie colv" is a new biography fro marie's friend, lindsey hilsum, international editor for channel 4 news. and it is my pleasure to have you here on the newshour. >> great to be here. >> schifrin: one of th remarkable things that comes out in this book, with diary entries and real access to everything that marie wrote, was her fearlessness, and something that really drove her.d t me read one excerpt, from the commencemenale. when she graduated in 1978 from the "yale daily news:"tt "it doesn't if you mess up, choose the wrong road, flop to vegas. what's important ihrow yourself in head first, to go for the gusto. and if you blow it, you blow
it." how important was fearlessness to marie? >> but she didn't blow it, did she? and i think at what i learned about marie from her childhood on long island-- i was lky enough to go to where she was brought up and spend time with her family. she was the eldest of five children, and they used to pla this game called deadman's branch, where ch child had a tree, and they would climb out along the branch. and the one who won was the one who could stay longer as they got to the flimsy end without it breaking. well, you can guess which was the child who always won that game. she always pushed it that little bit further. and i think that in that rebellious little girl, i saw the scenes of the brave woman, the war rerter who i met many years later. >> schifrin: the second aspect that really comes across in the book is that she was, frankly, attracted to war. she was attracted to men who were connected to war, whether for relationships, or to leaders.
and also a desire to see the world, and to frankly experience to think, as you write, to match her appetite for life. >> well, i think that she wanted to be where history waspp ing.th i don't thin she was attracted to war in terms of the violence, and she certainly wasn't interested in weaponry.on she said, "i care who is a t-55 or a t-72 tank." she said, what it is about, is people. and then you come back to the title of the book, "in exemis." that was what fascinated-- how pele managed to survive th unendurable, how they got through it. the horror of whsh was something felt she must expose and write about, but it certainly wasn't something that she reveled in, in any way. ed schifrin: and she expre and had-- and also wanted her readers to have-- so much empathy, i think, for people and so much understanding for what the peoe, the victims of war, were going through. and let me just read a couple of extraordinary passages that she wrote. the first one, from 1987, a palestinian woman who'd been killed by a shia militia in beirut. "though her hair was clotted
with blood, haji ahmed ali seem younger now that she'd been cleaned. her body was soft and shapely. she wore two tiny gold earrings. someone opened her ft and cleaned out the handful of blood-soaked dirt she had clenched in her pain." and in baba amr, in homes where she died in february 2012 helping tend the wounded was umm amar, a 45-year-old mother of seven who had offered to be a nurse. after a neighbor's house was shelled, she wore filthy plastic gloves and was crying. 'i'm obliged to endure this cause all children broug here are my children,' she said. 'but it is so hard.'" how important was r r empathy to porting? >> i think that that wasan criticalthat first excerpt d en you read, she wrote about the young woman when kied with the little gold earrings-- in her diary, i read that this reminded marie of a pair of golden rings that she had boug for her younger sister, cat. and i think that one of the
importanthings about that experience, where she saw this young woman, basically, she saw her life blood seeaway after she had been shot by snipers who were besieging the camp, was that she, she identified with this woman, in a sense, thu know? and she sa this was the war on women. that was what the title of the article that she wrote. the "sunday times" was anfl ntial newspaper, and marie felt her story had made a difference, because three days later, the sge of the camps was lifted. and that, i think, had a tremendous impact on her. thide idea that, because she feel this huge empathy and she was so, she was so committed to telling the story of these people-- but it might make a differce. >> schifrin: and that empathy and understanding, of course, drove her to stay in homs, to go back to homs, to go bababa amr. and that ultimately killed her. >> yes. so now we're in 2012, and she and i were together in beirut. it was the moment when the uprising, the peaceful uprising in syria, was morphing into a civil war.it as too dangerous. i said it was beyond my danger threshold, to be smuggled over the border and go to baba amr, which was under siege by the
syrian forces. but she insisted not only in going in, where-- this was important her story-- where the syrian government says it was just terrorists there, not civilians. and she wrote a story "the widows' basement," about the women and the children who were sheltering from relentless bombardment underground. and another storabout the field clinic where there was no doctor, just a veterinarian who was tending to these injured civilians. so she gave the lie to what the syrian government was saying. she came out to fileand then she felt that she had abandoned the people. and so she insisted on going back in. she said, lindsay, this is the worst we've ever seen. i said, i know, but what's yourt trategy? she said, that's just it. i don't have one. we're working on it now. and a few hours later, she was killed by a mortar fired by government forces. >> schifrin: which brings us back to fearlessness. w when yte this book, when
you think about marie's life, where does the bravery end and the recklessness begin? >> i think that that's a very blurred line. i mean, you see her there with her eye-patch. mind you, she did have one studded with rhinestones for parties. remember thatt t marie was the best company on the road. she was the funniest person you could ever meet. g.don't-- in some ways, fearlessness is wr it's to do with overcoming fear. because she was so committed tor the that was why she f overcame tr she had, and i think obviously you can look ba now, you know. e had a cat, phyllis smith. he lived his nine lives, maybe she lived hers. but i suppose what i fee bis that theren so much erphasis on the violence and tragic nature ofeath that i hope that, in some way, by writing the book, that i have, i guess, brought her back to life. >> schifrin: and i think you absolutely have done that. lindsey hilsum. the book is called "in extremis: the life and death of the war correspondent marie colvin." thank you very much.
>> thank you, nick. >> woodruff: barbershops are often hubs of conversation in the communities ere they are located. but one on the west side of cleveland is also a hub for health. gabriel kramer of pbs station ideastream in cleveland reports. >> reporter: barbershop customers come in for a haircut, and maybe some friendly sports banter. >> i think we're going to win, but i don't know if wegoing to sweep. >> i thought you were a money- talking dude. >> reporter: but at waverly willis' urban kutz barbershop in cleveland, some customers come in for an additional reason. >> so, your blood pressure is perfect. >> his blood pressure is perfect? >> it's perfect.er it's pct. >> get out of here, man. >> reporter: willis wanted to health component to his haircutting services. >> my clients were starting to disappear. and when i would run into their
wives or children or their girlfriend, i wod ask, "what happened to joe?" and they would tell me that he passed away from a stroke or a heart attack, something to that. t>> reporter: willis want help, partially because he has his own history of blood presre problems. >> i lost 200 pounds in the last couple of years. i was ableo get off of the high blood pressure medicine, which was one of mgoals. unfortunately, men, we don't go to the doctor, for the mosom part, unlesshing is falling off. this is going to be a gathering place. they're going to come and getut their hairnyway. so again, why not have a conversation about it? >> i went to the urologist last week. the girl said it was 117 over 77. >> reporter: willis started this program a few years ago by asking medical professionals he knew personally to lend a hand, but recently, he partnered with cleveland's american heart association to make the process more formal. brenda parks is the multicultural initiatives director. >> it's an ideal location for people to come and to learn, mainly because they trust their
strber. and because they their barber, they're more likely to explain or share information that they wouldn't normally noare with anyone else. >> have you ced a change in your energy or anything like that? >> reporter: willis also founded the urban barber association, ae network ofland-area barbershops and salons that he encouraged to provide their customers with blood pressure screeninan. >> i don'tit to be strange to know that you can get your blood pressurb taken at a shop. there's more barbershops than hospitals. haere's more barbershops t urgent cares. so why not use these small sateites as beacons of hope and a resource center in our llmmunity? >> reporter: with ' help, four other barbershops and salons in clevand now provide blood pressure screening. he hopes to double tt number next year. for pbs newshour, i'm gabriel kramer in cleveland. >> woodruff: finally, we have
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>> ready? set. cook! you've heard of people having a ptographic memory where they can recall a moment and every detail about it. sometimes i think i have that with food. i don't know why, but i can remember exactly where i was, the smells, the tastes, every et little delicious dl about certain meals that have left a lasting impression on me. how wild is that?th today ght it would be fun to recreate a few of the recipes from my favorite food memories. cheesy chicken enchiladas in a creamy salsa verde, one of my childhood favorites. so ridiculous. light, crispy, a little sweet. frosted cereal cookies, a recipe handed down from my husband's grandmother. and a fabulous pinto bean and tomato soup, my husband's grandmother.