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ning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away. political storm-- a massive wave of protests rocks puerto rico as residents seek to force resignation of the island's scandal-plagued governor. then amy walter and tamara keitc break down tpeting visions for health care shaping the democratic primary, and the continuing fallout from president trump's racist tweets. plus 100 years of harlem: new york's fabled neighborhood. through the lens and on the canvas-- and now on display in a gallery exhibit. >> the art was important then. in creating a new visual lexicon for african-americs against histories of dehumanizing and degrading stereotypes and imagery in the american popular imination. >> nawaz: all that and ms e on tonight'bs newshour."
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>> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from vwers like you. thank you. >> nawaz: massive protests filled the streets and h around san juan, puerto rico today. the marches have grown for almost two weeks n. even as the heat index topped 100 degrees there today, crowds reffectively shut down ma portions of the city. and they prevented cruise boatsh h bring crucial tourist business, from docking. as of this hour, the island's governor is refusing to resign,g trigge political crisis on top of an economic one.
demonstrations across puerto rico today swelled into the hundreds of thousands, one of the largest protests the island has ever seen. their immediate target: governor ricardo rossello. >>translated ): i decided to come to be with the people, because we are tired. the people are tired. it's been years and years and the people have awoken. >> reporter: it's thlatest in a series of protests calling for rossello to step down. at times, there has been sporad violence with riot police, but no known deaths. rossello tried to address the unrest in a facebook video yesterday, saying he would givel up hisas president of his party and would not seek re- election next year. but he stopped short of resigning. >> ( translated ): i recognize that apologizing is not enough. only my work will help to restore thtrust of these sectors and forge a path toward reconciliation. in the face of this scenario, i am announcing that i will not seek re-election as governor next year. >> reporter: protesters said hee had not ar enough.
>> ( translated ): it's one more demonsation of the arrogance of the governor that he doesn't want to recognize the fai'sluref whaking place and the demonstration of the people who are demanding his resignation. we've be asking for his resignation for 12 days already, and he is trying to ghoe a candy to in his party, offering to give up the presidency and the candidature in 2020 so that they allow him to remain through e the year and a half thats left. that's not acceptable. rossello was asked about the protests by fox news's shepherd smith. >> today the largest demonstration potentially in the history of the isla you stand with firm resolve and talk about accomplishments. do you hear them? >> i hear them, and it'pa of my introspection, and i will continue to hear them. ly continue to make my decisions and work with the peop o puerto rico. >> nawaz: the public outrage was set off by a leak of offensive online chat messages between rossello and his aides.
the nearly 900-page document published by puerto rico's center for investig journalism exposed privateag messes mocking women, guy people, and even hurricane victims. the targets also included political opponents and the island's financial oversight asard. the scandal brokederal corruption charges were leveled against six members of his administrati, and it has since led to the resignation of others. president trump, who has frequently criticized the u.s.ve territory's ment, weighed in today. >> you have totally, grossly incompetent leadership at the top of puerto rico. the money is squandered and wasted and stole >> reporter: that criticism has been at the heart ofeshe crisis. pr have tapped into resentment over the governor's handling of hurricane maria in 2017 and the years of economic austerity measures the bankrupt island has faced. to talk about what's behind the protests, and where things stand this evening. i spoke a short time ago with adrian florido of npr, who was ouywith the protesters all in san juan.
with us. so give us a sense, you were out there with the protesters today. o is out there on the streets exactly and how did the vernor's announcement th will not resign go over? >> there is a wide swath of puerto ricans out on the a lot of people who have been protesters around social issues for a long time, but even more people who have never engaged in protests at all. that's one of the things that's eeen so fascinating about these protests that h surged in the last week is a lot of the force has come arfree these l sectors of society that have never been engaged in politics p itical protests at all. when the governor announced yesterdathat he wasn'going to resign, people seemed to get even more angry, even more motivated to come out into the i think that's a big part of why we saw these massive number o comi today. >> nawaz: give us a sense of what you're hearing on the
ground now. what would it take, do you think, for the governor to step down? the economy is in trouble. tourism is taking a big hit. protesters aren't going aetwhere. do youhe sense that he thinks he can ride this out? >> well, i think he has the sense that he thinks he can ride this out, but it's really hard to understand how he has come to that conclusion, because he's lost almost all of his political support. there's really no one in puerto rico who support him publicly. it's unclear whether people support him pry, but at least publicly no one is coming out. obviously a big part of governing is having allies within the government, because you don't govern via dictate. you govern through legislation, and no one in the legislaturee seems to willing to stand behind him some a big question is whether he's going to be able to regain that credibility, and all indications are that he's not. >> nawaz: when you talk ton peoplee ground who have taken to the streets, are protesting, are calling for him
to step dow t what arey telling you? what specific grievances do they have tha led them out to the streets today? >> the reasons for all the discontent if puerto -- in puerr are nuanced and they go back for many years and decades even. some of the newer things are the economic crisis that puerto rico has been in since 2006 when it descended into a recession it hasn't recovered from. the billions in debt puerto rico faces. esterity measures that h been imposed tbrail oversight board that are leading to the slhing of all kindsf public services. they've made it really hard for puerto ricans to just get by, forcing hundreds of thousands of ople to leave for the united states over thead last dece. and then, of course, the bungled response to hurricane hurricane, which inflicted a lot of damage and trauma on puerto ricans which they still hav't recovered from. all of those things are -- the traumas around,hose thin people have been trying to
suppress them and hold things together and just sort of move forward day by day. they feel like they can't do it anymore, and that's why people e fed up. >> nawaz: adrian, you mentioned that oversight board. briefly explain to us, what's their role, and are members of that bored vulnerable now, as well? >> so the federal oversight board, which puerto ricans call the fiscal control board, is a body that the u.s. congress c appointed ple years ago take control of puerto rico's finances to try to get it out debt. it has been imposing austerity measures and it's driven puerto ricans into the streets for may day protests. every first of m right now a lot of the focus is on the governor in part because of these chats and what they revealed and people feeling like he's outf touch and he's got to gosh, but here people alsont are uing to point out that the fiscal oversight board is also largely responsible for a lot of the austerity that is
making life a little moret difficfor puerto ricans here. >> nawaz: adrian, you mentioned the economic troubles of the island pdate even the devastation caused by hurricane maria. is there anysense that a new governor or a new government crowd step in and right thatht ship row? >> that is a very complicateder task here in o rico, in part because the puerto rican government only has -- the governor only has so much powert especially row. this oversight board has a lot of the control of the purse strings. so in many instances, any governor of puerto rico has to ge permission from this federally appointed, non-elected boarto implement public policy. so it's a very sort of mplicated question, but it is one that puerto rico is going to have to figure out very soon. >> nawaz: adrian florido of npr joining us from san juan, puerto rico. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> nawaz: in the day's other news, china condemned pro- democracy otests in hong kong
and warned they are directly blueprintings are expected to include big peincree foring and defense. the deal removes the possibility of government shutdowns for the foreseeable future. china condemned pro-mocracy protests in hong kong and warned they are directly challenging the central government's authority. on sunday, more than 100,000 people marched in the streets of hong kong. at nightsome egged and spray- painted the chinese government's office. that incident touched a nerve in beijing. >> ( translated ): the behavior of some radical demonstrators has touched the bottom line of the "one country, two systems"e princid must not be tolerated. we firmly support the hong kong government in taking all necessary measures to ensure the safety of the chinese central government's agencs in hong kong, defend hong kong's rule of law and punish criminals. n az: in a separate incident, at a subway station last night, a group of assailants wearing white attacked pro-docracy protesters dressed in black and
gray. at least 45 people were hurt. hong kong administrator carrie lam rejected allegations tha police had colluded in the subway attack. iran sd today it has arrested 17 iranian nationals accused of spying for the c.i.a. it said they worked at "sensitive" military and nuclear site and that some have now been sentenced to death. president trump said the claim is lie. meanwhile, iranian state tv aired footage of the crew of a british tanker seized last week at the mouth of the persian gulf. they appeared to be unharmed. on afghanistan, president trump claimed the u.s. could win a full-scale war there in a week. he met with pakistan's primeha minister imran hoping pakistan will help broker an n peace deal and he played up peace talks over more fighting. >> we've done wh we were supposed to do, we've been there for 19 years and we've acted as policemen, not soldiers. again, if we wanted to be soldrs, we would have been o
of there in ten days, one week to ten days if we wanted to. but i have not chosen that, why would we kill millions of people? it wouldn't be fair, in terms of humanity it wouldn't be fair. >> nawaz: prime minister khan o id he thinks the u.s. and taliban are closerpeace deal than ever before. the president also said he's willing to mediate between india anpakistan in their 70-yea dispute over kashmir. he said india's prime minister had asked him about it, but india's foreign minister denied that. in east jerusalem: israeli crews begafn demolishing dozens palestinian homes today in one of the largest operations of its kind in years. bulldozers tore through apartment buildings near the west bank/jerusalem divide. residents said the palestinian authority let them build there. the israeli military said the gh-rise apartments pose security threat because they are too close to the separatihe barrier withest bank. rte death toll from monsoon flooding across of india, nepal, and bangladesh rose to
more than 300 today. vast stretches of land are still under water, even as the rain has ease that, in turn, is letting crews gain access to some of the hardest-hit areas-- to tally the damage and deaths. south asia's monsoon season nttypically runs from june september. india's space agency successfully has launched an unmanned mission to the moon. a rocket carrying the spacecraft blasted off from southern india today.ol flight conrs celebrated the sequel to an orbital flight to the moon, in 2008. this flight aims to land a rover on the far side of the moon, to explore water ice deposits at the lunar south pole. back in this country, retired supreme court justice john paul stevens was remembered with a tecial ceremony at the court. he died last week age of 99. stevens' remains were brought to the court's great hall to lie in rese for the day. president trump was among those who paid their respects. former colleagues were also
there, including justice elena kagan, who succeeded stevens o t e court. >> he was a brillin with extraordinary legal gifts andta nts which he combined with a deep devotion to the rule of law and a deep commitment to equalst e. >> nawaz: justice stevens will have a private buriatomorrow at arlington national cemetery. the credit rating agency "equifax" will pay up to a00 million dollars in a settlement involviuge data breach. today's announcement closes investigations by the federal trade commission and t consumer financial protection bureau-- plus nearly all 50 states. equifax acknowledged in 2017 that hackers gained access to social security number other personal data for nearly 150 million people. and on wall street today the dow jones industrial average gained 17 points to close near 27,192. the nasdaq rose 57 points and
the s&p 500 added eight. and the statues have come to life-- sort of-- in belgium. it hosted europe's largest "living statue" festival this weekend. performers included a headless duo who danced with young attendees. a group own as "the mirror family," clad in gold d silver, showed off their moves. and "mister red" joined a long list of others entertaining the crowds. still to come on the "newshour," the bitter struggle for gay rights amid growing anti- l.g.b.t. sentiment in poland. revising the case of al franken, a year-and-a-half after the senator resigned in scandal. amy walter and tama keith on the latest moves from the 2020 .ampaign trail plus much more. a tide of hatred for l.g.b.t.q.
people in poland has alarmed officials there, and led the american ambassador to poland to denounce a conservative polish neinpapers for stoking hatre its campaign for so-called "l.g.b.t.-free zones." those fears were realized this weekend as a mob of right wing poles attacked a pride march in the town of bialystok, o of several districts that have elves to be ed.g.b.t.- free."mshede tar from bialystok in eastern poland, special correspondentol mabrabant reports. >> wearing anti-guy t-shirt, some hard-core right wingers were intent on violence. following their lead thousands of people, including senior citizens, lambasted marchers protesting against the sud rise of so-called lgbtq-free
zones. among those they tried to intimidate, malgorzata mróz. e> it makes me sad that peopl create these l.g.b.t.-free zones in poland because me, as abi xual and also polish person, i would really love to feel lcome in every single place in this country because i'm also >> reporter: the marchers were vastly outnumbered, and police protection was essential. gay activists claim they've replaced refugees as poland's main hated figures. i m scared a bit. i have tear gas with me. so yeah, as you can see, they basically shout "get the ( bleep ) out of here" to me and other people like me. so i can't feel welcome in my country. >> reporter: as the hostile mood intensified, the police struggled to defend stragglersse rated from the main march. the mob set off in pursuit of one small group of gay pride campaigners seeking safety.
but they spoed police pinning down a hardliner and the first skirmish of the afternoon began. police arrested 30 people. this exemplified the hatred and intolerance that concerns the u.s. ambassador and the puty mayor of warsaw, who compared it to the behavior of the nazis in the second world war. before the afternoon >> reporter: the issue of gay as been bubbling benea the surface in poland for years. but recently it's just exploded and gone to the forefront of the political agenda. and this issue has placed poland into conflict with m.nstream euro when poland's populist law and justice party came to power inec 2015, it dred ambitions to christianize the european union. in towns like bialystok, they abhor what they regard as instream europe's decadent values. at parliament in warsaw, influentialaw and justice
politician zdzislaw krasnodebski said europe favored constitutions but was hypocritical when it came to poland. >> our constitution in article 18 states the marriage is only between a man and a woman.ve for me it' interesting that in this case there's no interest iwhat actually our constitution is talking about. first luwikasz marcink, who is studying medicine in bialystok. >> it makes me sad where we have a situation where we have two people, two men together or two women together, and they declare love for each other. there is no biological possibility for them to have a child. so i realize that this is nots what familould look like. i strongly support the model where there is one man, one woman and babies. >> ( translated ): we think that l.g.b.t. movements have ta very longdition of profanity towards state symbols. they turned poland's national red-and-white flag into a white- rainbow flag and desecrate
cathol and christian symbols. >> reporter: he has in hi s sights daniel rycharski, an artist who wears prayer beads made of the blood of homosexuals and who portrays saints as gay icons. >> ( translated ): what is going on around the l.g.b.t. communiy appalls me the fact that the governing party uses us as electoral fuel. because of the fact that the hvernment works closely w the church, and the church is its authority.hu the catholic ch's teaching says it explicly. you could say it has incited nttred against l.g.b.t. people. >> reporter: thegay sermons of some priests are frequently rabid. wsthe tone of wieslaw dawi, who leads poland's order of saint augustine is not, bu he is unmoveable.
>> i would quote pope francis. i cannot judge people. this way want to live of live, all right. they live this way of life with full consequences. >> >> reporter:0 miles away from bialystok is rustic, god feariln kulesze koscwhere 90% voted for the ruling party. what's new isn't always gola and always stood firmly on tradition, religion, right? >> i'd find some remote islands. ndd take gay men to one is and lesbians to the other. let them live there. >> reporter: still inspired by the conservative vision of the late polish pope john paul ii, the catholic church is engagedfo in a battlr europe's identity. >> this is a certain potal moment in our relationship. i think the old europe, which is called the old lady, which is a dying europe by the wa to redefine what she really wants. and it's the question of the brussels leads, it is also t question of the church leads.th
what iis we want in europe in the future, that concern doman values? >> reporter: "free equality and tolerance," chantethe pride marchers. they yearn for the right to have same sex marriages. but given the levels of prejudice in poland, that looks like an impossible dream. for the pbs newshour, i'm malcolm brabant in bialystok. ov >> nawaz: inber 2017, during the height of the #metoor movement, a cotive talk- radio host named leann tweedon accused minnesota senator al franken of forcing an unwanted kiss on her a decade earlier. in the days that followed, seven additionalomen came forward with allegations of inappropriate behavior. three dozen democraticenators
demanded franken's resignation from the senate. and by january, he was gone. a w piece by "the new yorker's" jane mayer asks the question: did the punishment fit the crime? to dig deeper, i'm joined by long-time congress watcher norman ornstein of the american enterprise institute. he is a close friend of senator franken's. norm, welcome back to the news hour. >> great to : back. >> naw in that new yorker piece, senator franken says when he first heard about the allegation and saw an accompanying photo, it was miss tweeden sleeping on a u.s.o. flight. senator franken is reaching out to her and it can be described as a lewd gesture, pretending to grope her. when that photo came out and the pie came out, he said, "oh, my god, my life," he knew it woulvd a big impact. when you first heard about it, did you feel is sa >> i knew it would have an impact, but none of us, his close friends, including those
who wo "ed with him turday night live" going back decades, the people who worked on his staff, thought it would have the kind of rolling and dramatic implications that it did. because there was nothing in his past behavior from people close to dihim, inc women who had been his press secretary, his chiefisf staff, hampaign manager, the women he had worked with at "snl" had any sense at obl that there was a problem or a potential lem there. >> nawaz: even as women came forward? did you start to wonder, maybe i don't know what's going on here? puzzlements some about it. most of the additional allegations were basically fromo phns that he had taken at the minnesota state fair with tens of thousands of around or in very public settings of grabbing a buttock ora waist even during a photo on. and theuestions of wheth this wasre misintetion, crossed signals all emerged, but
as each additional one emerged, wow wondered what the political dynamic would be in the senate. through all of this, people who knew him well and those who kne his family well, there was never any sense that al was in the same category as people with whom h was being lumped together like harvey weinstein or charlie rose. >> nawaz: the calls for him to resign from his senator colleagues came quickly. and i wondered if you talked to him at the time. diayou offer him any coune what he should do? >> yes. from the beginning when the accusations emerged, and as the jane mayer article points out, a money more complex settin where a lot of what she said was simply not true. what al did w first he didn't want to blame the victim, which makes you look like a jerk and obvi lsly there's ag history of that, but he also called for this senateic e investigation, believing that people other than himself, whohi could look at and look at the nature of these allegations,
what the real truth was, would have it emerge eventually. and that i suddenly turned with a kind of perfect storm to these calls for risk red inflation starting with senator gillibrand and including a bunch of others was stuning to him and to all of us. >> woodruff: you mentioned senator gillibrand. she was first senator to call for his resigna take listen to what she had to say back at that time. >> i do not feel that he should continue to serve. everyone will make their judgment. i hope they do make their own judgment. >> nawaz: she was asked about why she made that decision. in a recent interview, this is with judy woodruff back in may of this year. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i have a responsibility. i stood with eight women who feel they were groped and forcibly kissed by senator franken inappropriately, a they spoke out. i stood with them. if our party is going the punish won who stand up forther women, then we?[ going in the wrong direcon.
>> nawaz: norm, from the democratic standpoint, do you understand why senator gibraltar and why so many others called for senator franken to resign? >> the way in which it ppened and the move to force him out, without allowing any due process and basically saying, doesn't matterhat the nature ofhe offense is, you're out of here, with all the public humiliation that cth it, that was still pretty stunning. and one of the key points in this article is seven senators, including women and men whoid "you should resign" now say, oh, my god, we made terrible mistakes. we should have let due process go forward. i have bn around the sene for 50 years. i have never found a situation where seven senatoradmit to a major mistake. it's hard to find one. >> have you spoken to any others who also regret calling for his resignation? the. there are otheators who don't want to come forward now because you get in the crosshairs in an issue like this. that's part of what hpened. but there are plenty who got
caught up in the moment. remember, one of the things t ct happens es like this is media go on a death watch. so there were 50 cameras and other reporters ousuing his daughter's house when he was. there every democratic senator had microphone thrust in their faces. what are you going to do? what are you going to do? and people caved. now i think theyelieve th they made a mistake. it was a perfect storm in a lot of ways. i have to say, some of it came from senator schumer, t leader, who basically told franken, if you don't announce you're resigning by 5:00 p.m. the same day al of this emerged, thenly get the caucus to vote calling for your resignation and you become a pariah and we strip you of your committees. the pressure w intense. there wasn't any sense of let's step back from this. you think what d would be different today if senator franken would not have resigned? >> i think al, who was an
enormous force in the senate would be an enormous force. he would have been a force in ah lot of trings that took place. he would have been strong when it came to the mueller report 'sd tru reaction it to. he would have been an incredible questioner. he's missed in the senate as a sot of people see it, but i also a human tragedy that something like this that might ha resulted with an ethics investigation in what jane mayer's article show, probably a letter of admonishment, thatt ended up destroying a career and causing an enormous level of heart attack is really unfortunate. >> nawaz: is his political career over? why give this interview now? doou think hi would run for office again? >> i think more significant is geing his voice back. when he announced he would resign under this intense pressure, he said, i'm not going to give up my voice in public issues. he started a podcast. he's doing a lit.e writi there are a lot of issues he cares about. i think importance of this article and the interview is now we can have franken back as a public voicei and hian important and powerful voice.
and with all the tragedy, at least that's a very positive thing. >> nawaz: norman ornstein, thanks very much for being here> y pleasure. >> nawaz: stay with us. u comion the "newshour," columnist george will on the origins and future of americ conservatism. plus, history and change in news yoarlem neighborhood as seen through art.a w pbs newshour/npr/marist poll offers clues into where voters stand on president trump, the 2020 democratic candidatese and health c. plus, what to expect from wednesday's mueller hearings.an yzing all this and more, our politics monday team. that's amy walter of the cook political report and host of "politics with amy w on w- nyc radio. and tamara keith of npr. she also co-hostcsthe "npr poliodcast."
amy and tamara, welcome to you both. shall we dig into this hole? let's do it. b let's take wiat the presidential approval rating. this is its highest point eve 44%. that has inched up recently, and take a will be at what's driving that increase right here, among independents, a bit of a shift. it was 42% -- sorry. it was 35% in june. that's now up to 42%. amy, when you see those numbers, what do you think? >> so the good news for the president is this is the first time since marist has polling his presidency that he's had over 40% approval rating for three consecutive polls. so that's the good news. but here's underneath it all some challenges for the president. i think the number-one number that i lookedf at was i you had said to me, there is a president running for reelection, 53% of voters say they think he's doing a good job on the economy.
65% of voters say the economy ie workin for them personally, including almost half of democrats and 62% of independents. you would say, that president is going to get reelected. people feel good about the economy, they personally feel good. then you see his overall approval rating is 44%. there is a disconnect there, pet le feeling good abe economy, not feeling particularly good about the president himself. underneath this too for democrats, there are some warning signs. the number that really stood out for me when asked, donk you t ideas offered by democrats move the country in the right direction or wrongti dir, 43% said wrong direction. 46% said the right direction which is part of the reason i think you're seeing that independent number me and the overall number move is that it's not just trump, the president in a vacuum. it's now the president up against the concept of them. there niece docratic nominee, but the concept that people saw at the democratic debates and the ght they're seeing now
among democratic candidates. >> nawaz: i want to talk specifically about the they have in a second, but tam, over to you. is there something in the message the president is delivering, or is it really, we're just not sure what the democrats are putting forward, so we'll go here. >> i think we can't kno for certain, but i think amy is right on in showing that approval for the economy is strong. people feel good about the economy. they feel good about how they're doing. and an important part of presidential approval traditionally w do you feel about how the country is doing. how do you feel about the economy.t so the presides that going for him. what he has potentially weighing hihadown iss always weighed him down, which is the tweets and, you know, the coents and the feuds and the fights and the things that make people feel uncomfortable about him. >> nawaz: so take a look at how folks are looking at the democratic candidates. this is another graphic we're pulling out from this new poll today. back in june people were asked, what's more important to them, a
nominee who shares thesir val or someone who can beat trump. slightly more people wanted someone who shares their values back in june. now that h shifted. more people want a nominee who can beat donald trump in thene election, but it's an eight-point jump there. what do you make when you look at those numbers? >> those numbers reflect everything that i have been tolv by aer i have talked to in any early state, early voting state this country. you hear again and again and again, i want to beaudonald mp. i want a candidate who can beat donald trump. try to pull out of them what does that mean, and lot of them have a lot of different ideas. but the fact that they ae willing to sort of put their own peonal priorities behind the big one, which is preventing th esident from being reelected, is an indication of just hstow rongly democrats feel heading into this election. >> nawaz: what that meath, 's a very good point, because the number that doesn't move much between june and july when you ask democrats, have you
settled on a candidate yet? 19% say yes.ck n june it was 14%. so it's not exactly sky respsibilitying. w, people say, i know who the most -- normally you look and say, well, if those numbers are moving, i want a candidate who can be elected, they must be agreeing on who that most electable candidate is. that's not the case. >> there is a binoargument in the democratic primary about what it means to be electable and how -- what is electableor democrats this time around. and that is completelyhi unsettled, is showing up in a lot of these numbers. >> nawaz: very quickly, i want to geto one la interesting thing from this poll on one specific issue. this is how democrats are looking at healthcare and whyat voters hat they want. there is a big divide among the democrat party, but this is what people say they want. 70% of americans favoa dicare for all who want it. which means they want a choice between a national health insurance program or a private
health insurance. amy, there is still a big divide between democratic can cates about what kd of plan they will get behind. >> there is. one thing i noticed, when they asked democrats that question, the medicaid for all is popular, more popular among people who identify as progressive, so liberal or veryer l, but it also has a 55% approval ratingod amongates, as well some this is one of those issues that, you know, if you're a jeb or some of the other more moderate members of the 2020 democratic class, running for president, you point to that number and you say, look, only 41% of overall americans like this idea of a medicaid for allr this get of private insurance, but you have to convince members of your own party, most of whom, two-thirds of them, are supportive of the bernie sanders model that it's better to look at, againing going to the electability question, can somebody with this sort of position get elected when only 40% approve of it.
>> nawaz take a look at another story. that is the ongoing tweet storm from the president,hi 10:48 morning. he tweeted this in his latest in a series about the fur young congresswomen of color. the squad, as thowey're he says is a racist group of trouble makers who are young, inexperienced, not very smart. th are pulling the once-great p democraticty apart. every time we think this has gone away, the president tweets about it again. is this what wll continue to see in. >> right through until the election. if he could continue to talk about the squad forever he would. and this is -- i'm not the racist, you're the racist. they're the real racists, for months i have been hearing various hosts saying, oh, my gosh, this congresswoman, that congresswoman, o'rourke -- ocio-cortez, ilhan omar, so
racist. this is the president reflecting that messaging.it messaging. they volunteer "ithica." they volunteer those names of those congresswomen and say, wow, they're racist. >> nawaz: i hate to d this to you, one minute left. but there is a big day cthing up week. robert mueller will be on capitol hill testifying. it's first time we hear from him directly. what's t democrat's strategy and how to republicans counter it? >> democrats want people who didn't read the book or read the report to watch the movie, watch tv sshow, seee of the elements that were in that report, and say, oh, wow, there was more there than arealizedded. what the president allies and want is a dud. people not to watch it, not pay attention. or for mueller to give his testimony, for it to be bland, and for them to say, nothing more than you saw in the report, and the report speaks for itself. thend. nawaz: 15 seconds. >> i think depending on what kind of democrat, the outcome is very different. if you're a moderate, you hope that maybe there's nothing
that's really incredible that comes out of thi that pushes the impeachment debate into a reality. if you are someone on the progressive end who has signedto on alreadyaying you want to impeach the president, you're hoping there will be mome behind that. >> nawaz: the president says he might watch a little bit. >> >> naz: longtime columnist george will recently left the republican party, in protest of what he sees as shifting values. judy woodruff sat down with hime ly at the aspen ideas festival to discuss this shift anhis new book, "the conservative sensibility." she started by asking will to explain his view of american conservatism. >> people think conservatives only one to consee d they want to conserve the past. american cservatism is
precisely the reverse. it is to presve a society open to perpetual dynamic change. to do that you have to go back to the past. you have to conserve the founders' vision, which was natura rights, limited government and paration of powers. >> woodruff: so many people say, what i do yo the take us back to the original idea of america? i think many, many, if not most americans, don't understand this beingn pe perpetual change. >> i don't want the take the country back to a time before. i want to take us back to premises before. one of the reasons jefferson leapt at the louisiana purchase was so he could have an ample land for a rural humans republic so people would more or lesss by like thomas jefferson. a rival founderr hamilton, s of a recent musical --
[laughter] -- said he wanted an urban entrepreneurial restless society full of people rather like alexander hamilton. so there was a viable vision of what kind of people we would be. >> woodruff: what should the role of government be? i mean, you argue throughout and you'vargued this for a will be time, minimal role, government should have a small profile asd possible, et everybody knows that there are some things that have happened since the founders that have made a huge difference. >> conservatives are not againse ment. conservatives think we need to have a constant argument about the proper scopean actual competence of government. in 1964, 77% of the ameri people said they trusted the federal government to do the right thing all the time or ime.st all the today the figure is 17%.
60-point collapse inhe prestige of government as government's activism has risen. i would think my progressive friends would be inteinnsely rested in this. because everything they want to do depends on strong government, and strong government at the end of the day depends on confidence in government. conservatives have no problem with social security. government identifies anib el cohyannis port, the elderly, and writes them checks and mails them. it's good at that. what government is not so good at is what it began tode ake in the 1960s. model cities. we don't know howhe build model cities. there is a sense that tt's as pbuilding, which is as futile an enterprise like orchids. cities like nations like orchids are organics things.th are not built by governments >> nawaz: medicare. you started with social security.en how has gover done running medicare in >> well, it's beenonstantly
surprised, because everything it predicted, all of its predictions for costs and eligibility were much too nservative. but what we did in 1965 was attach the most rapidly growing portion of our population, the elderly, to dour mostamic science, which is medicine, as an entitlement.vi the lon of a great social achieve. ment it's also ruinously expensive. look at how we are governed today. for all the talk about discord, what's most frightening is consensus. wa's as broad as the republic from elizabeth en to ted cruz. it's as deep as the grand canyon. it is this: we should have a large, well-armed, generous entitlement state and not pay for it everyone has agreed on that. [laughter] i'm serious. the political class is more united by class interests than it is divided by ideology. the class interest is give the american people a dollar's wortn
of gover and charge them 80 cents for it. we used to borrow money for theu re. we fought wars for the future, built roads, damsan, highways we borrowed because the future was going to benefit from it. it was ethical to have them pay part othe burde today we're borough to finance our own consumption of government goods and services. which is decedent. >> nawaz: what happened to conservatiswhm? happened to all the argumes that george wi and other conservatives have made over all these years? w did it get shoved aside in your view and taken over, that o space taker by donald trump and what most republicans say orey su >> the very reverse, the obverse everything conservative tism stan for is populism. populism means the direct translation of majority passion into governance. the ultimate direct translations
ofon into politics is trump at the cleveland convenon, "only i can fix it." now, conservatism says majorities are going the rule, majoriti ought to rule, but in a wonderful praise, "we want mitigated democracy. we want public for slowed and filtered and refined through representative winstitutions." t he brings is the manner, the lying,the name-calling, all of this. which i think will do more lasting damage to the country, you can't unring these bells, than nixon's surreptitious burglaries did. it's going to be extremely difficult restore the tone of american lifehat prevailed from washington through barack obamaaw. >>: leave us with something positive to take away from this session.
>> here's the bright side. no one ever got rich betting e united states or against the american people. they are more sensible and less passionate and inflamed than some of thr representatives would have us believe they are. people rather cavalierly say we'r in a constitutional crisis. we've had one cisstitutional . that is one crisis, thmad sewnian institutions could not handle that. was the civil war. watergate, all the rest, thest utions took care of them just fine. ur >> nawaz: at theof the last century, african americans from across the country flooded new york city's harlem neighborhood leadiltng to a al explosion of books, poetry, music and art that is now collectively known as the harlem renaissance. as special correspondent jared
bowen reports, a photography exhibit now traces the evolution of one of the nation's most recognized neighborhoods as itin conts to evolve today. it's part of our series on arts and culture, "canvas." >> reporter: the 19 teens saw t the start great migration-- when millions of african americans ved away from the south. many to the north, and to harlem which came an oasis from oppression-- especially for artists. stephanie sparling williams is the exhibition's curator. >> the art was important then. in creating a new visual lexicon for african-americans againstum histories of dizing and degrading stereotypes and imagery in the american pon.lar imaginat >> reporter: at the addison gallery of american art, we find representation of nearly 100 years of life in harlem. mostly in photographs from the museum's collection. the show tak us from the 1930's just after the harlem renaissance to today. >> i see vibrance.
i see a people who have been through so much, and we're given so little and have made this out of it, this miraculous, this place. a lot of people describe harlem as a cultural mecc. >> reporter: this is where a lot of the socializing happened, was out on street corners, or in front of shops. the harlem of the 1930's was a place reeling from the great depression.ee and williamsin the work of both black and white photographers a place of fortune anair. >> you s a tension between, um harlem's working class, the unemployed, and then also harlem's upper and middle-class, um, citizensth. stuck harlem, but all trying to pick up the pieces. >> reporter: by the 1960's, harlem became a hotbed of protest in america-fled in large part by its community of artists, says judith dolkart the addison's director. >> i aays see artists as active agents in the culture, so-- artists have the ability tc change tture as much as anyone else.
they have a point of view, and they are putting that point of view out there.th >> reporter: i1960s '70s tsd '80s, harlem's streets were host to civil ri marches and later ack power rallies. it brought an energy thatco williams sayses through these photographs. >> i describe it as a buzz. the sound when you get off theay subw of just people in the streets, and i think. that's captured throughout the exhibition, not only the built environment and people, but how both come together to create the social life of harlem, the lifeblood of the neighborhood itself today, harlem tells a different story-- the results of gentrification. a way of life is changing, as it always has. but no so are harlem's people. >> it comes into sharp focus through dawoud bey's series" harlem redux," which he shot in 2016 when we see, um, the development, the construction. we see the different ways in which space is being claimed by other bodies.
particularly white bodies. >> reporter: the show ends on an epic piece by kehinde wiley, who created this instantly famous portrait of president barack obama. the subject, regal and wielding a sword,- on his eally mighty horse, was straight off 125th street in harlem. >> i think it's carrying along this tradition of, um, self determined imagery-- but also there's a tension, right? this-- the tension between the art historical canon. r is, this genre that african- americans would nend themselves in-- the black body was never portrayed in these heroic, um, paintings that depicted val, and masculinity, and virility often.ow but wiley us that black-- the black figure is no less powerful, no less masculine. >> reporter: and instead, there is glory in a neighborhood that its long encouraged that is residents. >> reporter: for the pbs newsho o i'm jared bowenwgbh in boston.
>> nawaz: across the country communities struggle to create jobs and end homelessness. one detroinon-profit has found a unique solution to help address both challengesps. ial correspondent mary ellen geist has the story. >> reporter: casandra grimes has been homeless for a year. but she has started to stitch her li back together. >> i try to just make my life better than it was before. ed reporter: grimes discova unique opportunity: working at the empowerment plan, a non-an profit oation dedicated to ending homelessness through employment. >> reporter: the organization was founded by veronika scott. >> both of my parents struggled with eloyment and addiction and poverty, and so it is myeating an opportunity i wish had been given twn family. >> reporter: while conducting research to design a coat for
homeless people, scott was confronted by a woman who told her that sheidn't need a coat, she needed a job. that led scott to launch the empowerment plan, which offers n th employment and a unique product for peopleed, a durable garment that can be transformed from a shoulder bag to a coat, teeping bag, wnd back to a shoulder bag. >> the coat on itss a band-aid for a systemic issue, and what really has thimpact is hiring the people that would need it in the first place. >> reporter: casandra grim admits the job has its challenges. >> you gotta focus when you thad. because i kept on breaking the needle when i first started, but i manage it now. >> reporter: managing the work- life balce is a part of employment at the empowerment plan. employees spend 60% of their atid time working, and 40% improving their edn and life skills. >> empowerment plan as an education for me, and it really has evolved into creating
that same opportunity for education for everybody. mes is studying for her g.e.d., with plans to attend college and pursue ast career as a sess. employees work at the empowerment plan for two years, then transition out into the workforce. grimes has a year left, and the organization is helping her find an apartnt of her own. >> i really do feel empowered when i am here 'cause i can get a good job in the future knowing i've got my education. i love what i do. they helped me get back on my feet.or >> rr: for the pbs newshour, i'm mary ellen geist ni detroit, michigan. >> nawaz: later t on pbs, "pov" presents a film about a 23-year old yazidi woman tryings ne the spotlight on the struggles of the yazidi community. "on her shlders" follows nobel peace prize winner nadia murad, who survived the 2014 genocide against the yazidi in iraq, as she becomes the voice of herho
peopleng to spur the world to action. "pov: on her shoulders" airson tonighost pbs stations. d remember on wednesday, former special counsel robert mueller testifies on capitol hill. our coverage begins online at 7:45 a.m. eastern and on the broadcast at 8:30 a.m. and that's the newshour for tonight. on tuesday join us again. i'm anma nawaz. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs ur, thank you and see yo soon. >> major funding for the pee newshour hasprovided by: >> babbel. a language app thateaches real-life conversations in a new babbel's 10-15 minute lessonsar available as an app, or online. more information on babbel.com.
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