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>> hello. i am rawle alkins. welcome to "outside source." a witness told the court in minneapolihe dialed 911 after seeing police new allegro george floyd. >> why did you do that? >> because i believed i witnessed a murder. >> i is day two of the trial of former officer derek chauvin, who faces murder charges. also we will learn about 2000 refugees from myanmar who have been turned back by thailand following airstrikes near the border by the leaders of myanmar's military coup. and in qatar, there has been a rise in dogs being abandoned and abused during the pandemic. ♪
welcome to those of you watching on bbc world news and those of you watching on pbs in america. it is day two of the trial of derek chauvin, the former police officer charged in the murder of george floyd in may last year. on the first day, the prosecution and defense laid out their cases. today the prosecution is continuing to do that. we have been hearing from witnesses. the first was donald williams iii. he has a background in mixed martial arts and he can be heard on footage of the arrest yelling at the police to get off george floyd. first, here is the prosecution questioning him. >> at some point, to make a 911 call? >> that is correct, i did call the police. >> and why did you do that? >> because i believed i witnessed a murder. >> so you felt a need to call the police? >> i felt the need to call the police. >> he was then cross-examined by
the lead defense lawyer, eric nelson, who questioned mr. williams about his martial arts background, and about the timing of his arrival at the seed. at this exchange, we see mr. nelson questioning him about his own conduct during the arrest. >> it is fair to say that you grew angriernd angrier. >> i grew professional and professional and i stayed in my body. you can't make me out to be angry. >> your voice was loud, right? >> you are trying to intimidate me. >> most of the officers were on the other side. at one point in officer was across the street as well. >> yes. correct. >> you continued to yell these same types of things. >> correct. yeah. i wasn't being heard. >> and it was over and over and
over and over again, right >> because i wasn't being heard. >> it is a yes or no question, sir. was it over and over andver again? >> yes, because i wasn't being heard. >> another witness, is under 18 and hurtful identity is being protected. she is the person who filmed the video that recorded what happened that was viewed the world over, that showed the nine minutes or more that derek chauvin put his knee over george floyd's neck. >> could you tell how your experiencing what happened to george floyd has affected your life? >> [sighs] when i look at george floyd, i look at my dad. a look at my brother. i look at my cousins. my uncles. because they are all black. i have a black brother. a black father.
i have black friends. i look at that and m a look at w that could have been one of them. >> this is the feed coming in from the trial now. we are hearing from a witness, a teenager who visited the corner store to purchase a cord to play music when she came upon the scene of george floyd's arrest. like the other teenager, she also filmed the arrest and her footage was also heavily shared. let's listen to a little of what she is saying, answering questions from the prosecution. of warning, there may be some distressing details. >> what did you feel? >> um, like i said, numb two the whole situation. i pushed it aside because i didn't really know how to feel. there was a lot to take in. >> did you go back to the store
after that? >> i still have not been there to this day. >> why is that? >> i don't want to be reminded. >> mr. nelson? >> the prosecution has finished its questions for the moment, and now, alisa, this witness, is being questioned by the defense. >> just a few questions for you. do you recall being interviewed by agent peterson of the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension? >> i believe so. >> ok. do you remember talking to police officers about what you observed, things of that nure? >> yes. >> if i told you their names,
would you have any reason to dispute me? >> no. >> they reported that call, is that correct? >> yes. >> and then again, i believe just within the last two or three days, you met with the prosecution team? >> yes. >> you give them some more information as w correct? >> yes. >> so do you recall telling agent peterson and ryerson as well as the prosecution team that while you were there, he obseed the officers check mr. floyd's radial pulse? >> i said i believed that they did. the two that were on his body, i thought at one point that i did see someone try. nothing changed, though, nothing in their body language or anything changed. >> ok.
were you given an opportunity to listen to your previous statement? >> no. >> were you ever given a transcript of your previous statement? >> no. >> would you disagree with me if i told you you said, i even saw them check his pulse multiple times before the ambulance got there. >> i would not agree with that. >> you would not agree with that? >> yes, because i don't remember. >> you don't remember that enough. >> can you restate it? >> sure. back when you were interviewed by the police officers in september, you told them that you saw the officers checking his pulse multiple times before the ambulance got there. >> i do not believe i said multiple times. >> may across the witness, your honor? >> 36415, page 40.
i am going to hand this through the plexiglas. just going to point to the last underline. may ask you to readhat? did you tell agents that you saw the officers check the pulse multiple times? >> yes, i did. then afterwards i told them it looked like they didn't find one. >> ok. now, you also described to the
officers that you were angry. >> yes. >> and you would agree to this day that you were angry at what you saw? >> yes. >> would you describe others in the crowd as angry as well? >> i would assume so. >> i have no further questions. >> you were just asked some questions about the pulse. did that refresh your recollection about wyou saw? >> a little bit. the day those officers came to my house, it was multiple times of being bothered and it was kind of like they forced the interview onto me. >> ok. thinking about it today, in terms of what you saw that day,
just tell the jury what you saw, in terms of somebody checking the pulse. >> well, i don't exactly remember standing right there all the way, beuse it was kind of, like, in and out, but re-watching the video, i remember seeing someone move their hands towards his wrist, his vitals, behind his back. >> was that person mr. ch auvin? >> no. >> are you unclear about whether there was a pulse check because you said you did not change anything they were doing? >> crect. >> would u.s. human that if they had not -- that if they are concerned, they would have changed what they were doing? >> yes. >> they would have gotten off him, that is what you would have
expected would happen? >> yes, that is what i expected they would do. >> you were asked questions about being angry. were you upset about what was going on in front of you? >> yes. >> did you attack anybody? >> know. >>hit anybody? >> no. >> threatened officers in any way? >> no. >> when you say angry, what do you mean? >> i was upset because there was nothing we could do but what of them take this man's life in front of our eyes. >> when you say, we, were all of you doing what you are doing, meaning not getting physical or throwing punches or making threats at the cops? >> yes. >> thank you. you may step down. >> there is the judge in the trial of derek chauvin, telling the latest witness that she may step down. we are on day two of the trial
of former officer derek chauvin who faces two charges of murder and one of manslaughter, and as you can hear, both the persecution and the defense are having the opportunity to ask questions of a number of people, all of whom witnessed the arrest and the death of george floyd in minneapolis in may of last year. let me run you through the three charges faced by derek chauvin. they are second-degree and intentional murder, third-degree murder, and second degree manslaughter. they all had differing burdens of proof. for the second-degree murder charge, persecutors must prove derek chauvin caused george floyd's death while committing or trying to commit a crime, in this case, assaulting him having his knee on george floyd's neck. the third-degree murder charge is easy to prove. persecutors must show that george floyd's death was caused by an act but was clearly dangerous, but not necessarily a
crime. the least serious of the charges is manslaughter, and that requires proof that derek chauvin caused george floyd's death through negligence. that is what the prosecution is aiming to prove. let here from the president of the national black trial lawyers group, with her assessment of the prosecution's approach. >> the prosecution is doing a very good job ofayering it. they are layering different points of vi. whether you are in an and one. -- 8911 dispatcher used to situations with violence, she thought it was wrong. and mma fighter thought something was wrong. a cross-section of people and perspectives where we can clearly see this was a use of force. they are layering that for us. >> this is a case of many involving the deaths of black people at the hands of the police in the. u.s. for many, this is not just about the death of george floyd, it is also about many others'
experience. for example, erica garner 2014 died after being held in a chokehold by police in new york. a video taken by an onlooker showed mr. garner repeatedly saying "i can't breathe." like george floyd' death, the footage shocked many and sparked protests across the u.s.. the prosecution eventually decided not to pursue charges. eric gardner's mother has been speaking to our correspondent, and she said she wants to support floyd's family. >> even when i met them face-to-face, i told them, even though you have a video, just like i did, don't think it's a slamdunk. when you get in the courtroom, they will throw everything at you to make you feel like your brother was the criminal instead of the man that murdered him. >> it is interesting you say that, because george floyd's brother said yesterday said that this is a slamdunk.
the man was kneeling on his neck on the video seen around the world. you don't think it is that easy? >> no, it isot that easy. it was proven in my case. they tried to blame my son for his death because of his size. you see how large george floyd was my son was a large man. they said because his heart was enlarged. they tried t blame the murder on the people who they murdered. but no matter what you are saying about them, with these conditions that they have, if you didn't step in his neck, if you didn't choke my son to death, he would not have died that day. and that is what we must remember. >> there is much more on the trial of derek chauvin on the bbc news website. in a few minutes on "outside source," we learn how the gulf state of qatar has no rise of dogs being abandoned and abused during the pandemic. ♪
the headf the world health organization is saying more investigation is needed into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic. the w.h.o. is saying that its investigators, who released a final report after visiting china, founded difficult to access the data they needed. here is more from wuhan. reporter: the important thing is that this is very much the beginning of a process of trying to work out the origins of the coronavirus, if indeed they ever will. we have had investigations into ebola outbreaks that have lasted four decades and have yet to find the origin. they have all but ruled out the possibility that maybe this virus escaped from the wuhan institute of allergy, a highly regarded institute. they say it is unlikely, but they say it did -- but they do not say that it didn't happen. they say it is likely that the virus was originated in bats and
passed possibly through an intermediary before it was passed on to humans. that is very likely, they say. ♪ >> we're in the bbc news room. our lead story comes from minneapolis, a witness has told prosecutors he believed he saw a murder. now i want to tell you about several significant develoents of the coup in myanmar. refugees have been turned back in thailand. here is the explanation from the thai prime minister. >> some villagers arrived and we asked what problems there were. they said there weren't any. we then said, can you go back first? we did not point any guns in their faces. we shook their hands and we been wished them -- and we wish them
well. that is humanitarian. >> the context here is that most of the resistance to the coup so far has come from the disobedience movement, primarily based in big cities. now armed ethnic groups are becoming involved, too. one of them is the national union. over the weekend, the burmese military carried out airstrikes over the group here in territory that controls in the state, which sits on the myanmar border with thailand. this was the aftermath of the airstrikes. these were the first aerial attacks in the area in the last 20 years. footage was sent by the air group free burma rangers, which works inside myanmar. this is its spokesperson. >> many of these strengths were carried out at night which i a capability the army did not have before. this is a new capability. it was a hit at night in the
valley, near the river which is north of papoon. the whole valley, 5000 people, is hiding. altogether, we have 12,000 people displaced. then the planes came and went along the thai-burm bordera, bargaining. >> this is what happened next. ethnic karan families went hiding. others take boats across the river into thailand. the reports are that injured people were aloud into thailand but most peopleere pushed back. we're are also told that those who could not cross the river were sent to a displacement camp on the myanmar side of the border. this footage appears to show tha i border guards putting up barriers to keep people away. the army was sending most burmese back as it
deemed the situation at the border to be safe. thailand says it is respecting the human rights of refugees. let's hear from my colleague from bbc thai. >> they wod stop in the jungle -- they were stopped in the jungle by security personnel trying to prevent them from coming further into thailand. so they have been kind of like pushed back. it is kind of like a deterrence not to let who many of them ming. once the footage has been released, the government has come back to say, no, we welcomed them, we let them in, that we have our professional ways of dealing with these people. >> there are a number of armed groups in myanmar who have spent decades fighting the military for greater control of the territory where they are based. now some of them are helping the anti-coup movement.
from free burma rangers, again. >> there is a feeling from the burmans in the city saying, we have no idea. so sorry, we were focused on our lives. the suffering viewer going through, now we know. although we cannot stop the army ourselves, the ethnic armies have done two things, they have sent in money for food and medicine to the cities and protesters. some of the targeted leaders of the adjusters of the protesters, they have been smuggled out to safety. but the ethnic army don't have the power to really stop the burmese army. right now there is no large international support that gives them the power they need to make a difference. each group is fighting for their lives. >> from myanmar to qatar. there are concerns about a spike in dogs being abandoned and abused during the pandemic. let's learn about this. some dogs are suffering horrific
injuries, and evidence is being constantly posted on social media. this is one dog that was rescued by animal welfare groups after being burned and stabbed. this dog was shot multiple times. we are told others have been dly beaten and others are being deliberately runover. we chose not to show you these pictures because they are graphic qatar. 's problem with dogs is not new. it is thought to be -- it is thought the crisis has made it worse. according to local media, animals have been abandoned by families, mainly due to circulating information on pets contracting the coronavirus and infecting members of the family. rescuers now say the completion of building projects ahead of the 2022 world cup has forced more stray dogs into residential areas, where many fall victim. to abuse let's speak to. -- let's speak to anne from
afp who is with, us. >> the rescue community estimates the population is 50,000 stray animals, mostly dogs, on the streets of qatar. the population of strays and qatar has been on the rise in years. because of the construction, as dogs, who were probably living in area where they were not bothering anyone, have been pushed to residential areas and farmlands where theare being abused and tortured, but were also people -- they are not welcome, so people complain and police intervene. hopefully rescues intervene and try to save as many as possible and try to rehome some of the dogs that they will trap on the streets of qatar. but the transient population -- you mentioned abandonment. people ce and go in qatar and a lot of those pets are left
behind. if those pets are not sterilized, they multiply. that also contributes to the increase of the stray population. >> did the authorities acknowledge there is a problem? >> the government acknowledged there has been a rise in the population. they have launche a campaign called "operation pity" which consists of rounding up dogs in the area where they are problematic. the dogs that are captured are kept in two teorary shelters. the government is building a new permanent shelter for those do captured on the streets. the government says all dogs captured in this operation are cared for, they are getting vaccinated and they will be sterilized that eventually put up for adoption. but when the campaign came into the public eye with photos that were posted in local media, the rescue community got very worried because they want to know happens to those dogs. because of the number of dogs on
the streets, they wonder how can the government manage that many dogs, and what will happen to those dogs in the government-run facility when it becomes overcrowded? the government says in a statement to afp that no dogs would be euthanized, but the rescue community would like to see for themselves. there is a lot of volunteers that work here withnimal shelters and they would like to be involved in the government operation, because over the years, they have gathered the expertise and they know how to deal with the issue. >> we appreciate you bringing us up-to-date. thank you very much, afp reporter in qatar, ending this edition of "outside source." our lead story has been the ongoing trial of derek chauvin, the minneapolis police officer accused of murdering george floyd. we will return to that story tomorrow. bye-bye. ♪ narrator: funding for presentation of this program is provided by.. the freeman foundation.
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