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with this link will look at something beautiful. coming from you in san francisco it is june 24th. i am scott shafer. today the u.s. supreme court overturned the 1973 decision that protected women's rights to abortion. we begin with uc irvine with invisible women and the criminalization of motherhood. thank you for joining us. >> different find me back to speak with you. this was not a surprise. as you read over now that it is reality what jumps out to you? >> it's not only the symbolism that's contained within this decision but what it really
means is if we were to start with matters of law this is a rollback. not just related to reproductive health piracy or liberty. this is a rollback of the rule of law itself and will be vouchsafed for key access. united states is the deadliest place in the developed world for a woman to be pregnant. mississippi the state from which this law that the supreme court is allowing to go into effect a black woman is 118 times more likely to die by carrying a pregnancy to term. so that has to be kept as part of conversation.
>> it has been declining in this country. to what extent will that reduced even further the number of abortions? >> abortions have been performed for millennia. they were performed by pilgrims. if we look at the lead up to our v wade there were some that were so urgent that they risk their own lives and many did die from back alley abortions. and others found freedom and liberty to go to a state like new york. while states will restrict abortion-rights there will be people who leave the states trying to get to free states where they can terminate their pregnancies including in california, new york, illinois and colorado amongst the states. >> and of course the governor today signed a bill 1866 that will protect women coming to
california or anyone in a helps them come here to get an abortion. to what extent can a state like california insulate women from legal jeopardy and give them the kinds of services that they want and need. >> it means that what is taxed in california happens to be in the capacity of the institution the performance reproductive health care. do we have an adequate supply of medical providers nurses and more that can help in helping the people with their reproductive health care needs. whether it's prenatal care or terminating an abortion. so those are real questions in terms of capacity for the state of california. but certainly the urgency and the need recognizing constitutional rights at stake has been something that california has always been committed to long before any other states they had protected the rights to privacy in its constitution and as a matter of state law.
>> and yet it is still hard to find these services in places like the central valley. or in northern rural california. this decision and california's becoming a haven for women seeking abortion would only exacerbate that problem? >> it is a good question that you asked with regard to capacity. those who may still be vulnerable who because of marginalized status based on geographic limitations or socioeconomic constraints may still suffer. this is a state where even recently there was someone charged with first-degree murder in the wake of a ústirtl so we must be careful and we must be mindful and vigilant even in state like california. the state of california is one were those who are incarcerated were coercively sterilized and the legislature eventually addressed those issues.
but it is to say that we are still on that long arc toward justice. and it is 2022 and we are still fighting for the right to bodily autonomy despite precedents and the rule of law. and that is what makes this decision so dangerous in 2022. that women are still petitioning for the right of personhood in the united states. and that is not hyperbole but that is the decision itself. this decision specifically addressed a law in mississippi but there are many that have trigger laws that will take effect banning abortion in anticipation of this. how will that rollout do you think? >> it's great that you asked that question. already there are more than two dozen states that have what you've named and others have trigger laws. so that means when the supreme court issues a decision like this it would place it in motion with the abortion restrictions in their state. many of them will ban abortion
outright. and for others they will dramatically constrain the ability to terminate the pregnancy. and many will no longer provide provisions which shows the cruelty of what has ultimately been upheld. there just getting started. the concurring opinion shows us using this legal theory against privacy and contraception and other rights. how concerned should we be about that? >> we should string together the things that were seeing here.
during the time when justice scalia was on the court there was a vine by this concurring opinion making it very clear that they're not finished yet. and that he would not man mind seeing any other being eviscerated and going away. and that includes lgbtq equality and marriage equality and contraceptive access. and he is not alone. such as plan b that's been used as a gold standard after a woman has been assaulted. you can see them going after doctors or pharmaceutical companies or even shipping these kinds of drugs that induce a miscarriage is that a possibility legally?
>> we can really pull back and learn from the playbook. it certainly hurt the dignity that they can't play checkers in the park. they criminalize them for being in taxis with white people. it seems strange and absurd but we should learn from that. laws that 20 or 30 years from now people look back and say how the world could that have been enacted? and that is where we are today. a girl that is 10 years old who's been assaulted by her stepfather brother uncle will be forced to carry a pregnancy to term and become a mother at
11 years old. that's what the spring court has sanctioned. >> it is a new day and very disturbing for many people. i'm joined by two reporters have been covering this level. thank you for both being here. >> and even talking to the advocates for reproductive rights about the decision what are you hearing? >> there's a lot of outrage and disappointment. they've been preparing for weeks and even months for this decision. for those that are volunteering it and the protests advocating for policy and more. there calls for volunteers even. >> when you call vols for protests what more would there
be? >> i've spoken with local groups to help women and those who need abortions pay for them and get to the clinic. even assisting with childcare. i know democrats in particular ae hoping that this will come through with the congressional races that may be affected? >> it could decide the balance. and they're looking at this wth a mix of fear and outrage. but also some hope that it will activate this level. you know your rights on the ballot for this november. and that will be an issue with those congressional races and other legislative races as well. there is an opening here for the younger democrats. and even no party preferences
it may be very disappointed. we've seen dismal approval ratings for the democratic party as a whole. and this may be an issue that may activate folks and prove a counterpoint to inflation concerns and other things the democrats know they will have to be fighting against. you need something to fight for. and this could be it. >> another thing to speak to that would be a amendment that the democrats are hoping to put here. the enshrining abortion rights in the california constution. what would that have politically? >> again a could help get them to the polls. there could be an activating issue for those who see themselves as one issue voters. more broadly the hope is that it will protect against future potential changes in california. i was on a call with the senate pro tem toni atkins who said we are not ready to worry about this legislature. but as see there is fallout from this and that is a real
concrete way to follow those politics. there are real-life implications for women not just in california but across the country you done some talking and reporting with researchers looking at how being denied an abortion comes forward. >> women are more likely to enter poverty. and more interestingly when followed years after their abortion 95% say it was the right decision for them. and they may go on to have children and be happy parents. most already have kids. and we need to talk about the fact that pregnancy is more dangerous than abortion. and that's what we see with them having children when they want to.
it's not so easy and necessarily before making easier for women in other states to come here and get the sorts of services. what is the legislature thinking about when it comes to showing up infrastructure for these kind of services? for women that are already here much less those that are coming. when you look at the east bay they really talked about the idea that expanding access to reproductive care is key to all this. they can't welcome 3000 increase from those if they don't have the ability to serve the folks that are already here. there's a real effort with planned parenthood and ucsf that provides reproductive care as well. there's another big decisi
having to do with guns striking down a law in new york state which limited the licensing of guns. what impact might that decision have in california? >> on one hand states can't ban abortion but they can also say that you can have these kinds of concealed carry permits. the supreme court is striking it down as well. what you see here is that it does invalidate concealed carry permit structure. it also has wide implication with the court was saying. that you can't make it someone jumping through an extra hoop to exercise what they consider a core constitutional right to bear arms. anything california and other states that have these kind of books or laws on the books that essentially say you don't get
to just carry a weapon outside of your house because of the second amendment. you have to have a special threat against you. they will try to rewrite those in ways that at least allow the prohibition of guns in sensitive areas like schools. or government buildings or airports. so definitely a lot in regards to the conversations behind closed doors on how to tweak the lease so they're not completely invalidated. transitioning to climate change and whether we've seen some weird weather and lightning strikes here in the bay area. what is happening and how is this related to climate change? >> we know the lightning change are unlikely. and makes those dry levels to be more important throughout the future. looking at cal fire and some of
those practices around prevention what did you find there? >> we look at how they are responding to the non- firefighting responsibilities. force management and preventative activities. there's been a huge investment in the legislature in recent years for that side of its job. we found that it was fumbling a number of key responsibilities. some of those are in the areas of responding to law quickly and managing data well. and getting legally mandated reports out on time. there are some that are four years late. and a culture of resistance to change with this more prevention mindset. it is critically important to
prevent this because were having such a hard time fighting it. there's a lot of money in this budget. if you don't have an agency and permitng it then you don't have a problem. >> it is always better to stop a fire before it starts. >> part of all of this is water. and we are in the middle of a historic drought. it is interesting how gavin newsom and jerry brown seem to be handling this issue of conservation differently. are there any thoughts or observations about that? >> yes. jerry brown instituted kind of a top-down approach. he spoke about water conservation all the time and we saw the californians respond. there leaving it to encourage local conservation. it has not been very effective.
it's a time we are telling people are just coming back to school and whether not they have to wear masks and all these things but i think the governor was very reticent to make demands that are very impactful to people's day-to- day lives. at the end of the day they're going to have to later though. vaccines are available for the littlest kids on covid now. thoughts on how big of a game changer that is. >> i have a boy who is just over one years old. there are two vaccines available now. pfister and mature enough. you can get them from your healthcare provider if you have them. you can also sign up on the state website. >> it's a huge relief and good news for parents. i know it has been a long time coming.
they will be with that tradition more than 50 years for the stonewall riots. police raided a bar in the community fought back. launching the modern rights movement. pride is celebrated around the world each year and the festivities will be in person now. after years of being interrupted by the pandemic. joined me to talk about all things pride is due's and stryker. co-author of the book gay by the bay. so let's go back to 50 years of precedent being struck down. >> i know you said celebrate pride in your opening remarks. and that is really important to say that besides celebrating we need to be protesting.
pride started as a wry it. it started as a protest. it is more than just a party. and now i think there's an awful lot that needs to be protested. we need to protest with the supreme court just did and take away those rights that have been granted to more than half the population. and the thing that links it to the celebration of pride and the struggle forliberation is a bodily autonomy and being able to make the informed decisions about your own lives. whether that's how you make a family or have a partner. having your life. it's directly related to all of this. >> clarence thomas in his concurring opinion today said we could use the same rationale to look at contraception rights and lgbt rewrites. so obviously that's what were
looking at. this emphasis go course has been in the forefront of so many rights there've been one by the community. what are your thoughts about where we are today as there was also controversy about lgbtq cops that were marching in uniform and the parades. a lot of mixed feelings around these issues? >> i personally feel that many of the abuses against transgender people have taken place at the hands of the police force. they've often not been friends to the community. some of my own historical work is about the cafeteria riots.
d that was a riot against systemic police violence. at the same time you have those trans people who fought to be there. they see it as going backwards. and we will have to agree to disagree on that. i totally support individuals. my next-door neighbors a police officer. nothing against any individuals. but as of force the police force is used more often than not againstand trans liberation. in idaho a group of right-wing extremists were arrested we saw
here in the bay area state center scott weiner receiving it at home and drag queen storytelling hour was disrupted. what do you see as the through line for all of these things? >> i see this being that we are in a moment of profound political reaction. in this country there are a lot of extrajudirm ci ans iffo vi gof. vigilante violence here as well. and honestly i don't think that the state is going to save us. i think it is going to be time for us to mobilize the self defense. let's just say at first we just must keep our eyes open and. in public we need to make sure
that we have people that we are keeping an eye on with each other within the community. that's the better it will be. i think he probably was pleased. it is a deeper question of how we as a society can take care of everyone's needs to make sure they are treated fairly. everyone gets a fair shake without resorting to some kind of coercive value. >> happy pride and thank you for coming in.
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