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judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight. biden abroad, the u.s. and israel agree to keep iran from gaining nuclear weapons but differ on how. while the family of a slain palestinian american journalist urges president biden to hold israel accountable for her death. then rising infections, demand , for monkeypox vaccines and criticism of the government's response to the outbreak grow louder as the virus spreads in the u.s. and agents for change. an innovative job training center in pittsburgh provides skills training for disadvantaged youth. >> we are not saying you have to do it by yourself. judy: all that and more on
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the core rate, not including food and fuel, was still at more than 8%. retail inflation was also sharply higher than expected. separately, home mortgage rates shot back up this wk, averaging 5.5% on a 30 year loan. the inflation news and week bank earnings held wall street in check. the dow jones industrial average lost 146 points and the nasdaq rose three points, the s&p 500 fell 11. a federal grand jury today indicted the white suspect in the buffalo supermarket massacre. 10 black victims. he now faces hate crimes and other counts on top of state murder charges. the federal indictment came shortly before local and state leaders marked a two month anniversary of the shootings. >> this is the day where we declare that hate did not win. that hate was defeated. that hate has no place in east
buffalo, or in buffalo, or in the great state of new york. and that this community, this community drove out the darkness. judy: the store has had a full renovation since the attack when it reopens tomorrow. there's a new twist in the january 6 investigation. turns out the u.s. secret service erased text messages from january 5 and six shortly after an oversight official asked for them. the inspector general for the department of homeland security tells congress that it happened during equipment replacement. it is not clear what the messages said. a new rocket attack in ukraine killed at least 23 people today and wounded or than 100. ukrainian officials say that russian missiles hit the city southwest of kyiv. the marauders also damage buildings and dozens of cars.
ukraine's president condemned the attack as he addressed a conference on war crimes. >> today, in the morning, russian missiles hit an ordinary peaceful city. houses were destroyed. a medical center was destroyed. cars and trams were on fire. this is an act of russian terror. they are not people. judy: russia has repeatedly claimed that it does not target civilian sites in ukraine. in sri lanka, a call came over the streets of colombo, the capital today, as protesters left government buildings after days of occupation. stragglers taking selfie photos vacated the homes of the prime minister and the president, hoping to head off further violence after street clashes overnight. >> this is not us handing back these institutions. we have achieved our main goal. we no longer need to occupy these buildings. so, we are leaving. judy: meanwhile, the country's president flew to singapore,
days after fleeing sri lanka. the parliament speaker's office said it received his resignation. an official announcement is set for tomorrow. a searing heat wave across southern europe kept wildfires spreading today, from the iberian peninsula to turkey. in portugal, firefighters battled flames in temperatures topping 110 degrees. major fires were also burning in southern france, western spain, croatia and turkey. back in this country, donald trump's first wife-ivana trump, has died at her home in new york. the former president announced it today. but gave no details. they married in 1977 and had 3 children, donald junior, ivanka and eric, before a highly publicized divorce. ivana trump was 73. the u.s. congress has paid final tribute to hershel woody williams, the last medal of honor recipient from world war two. in 1945, he fought alone to
eliminate japanese machine gun positions on iwo jima. today, lawmakers gathered in the u.s. capitol, where williams lay in honor. house speaker nancy pelosi called him a force of nature. >> with woody's passing, we have lost a deeply selfless american and a vital link to our nation's greatest generation. his story echoes the service of so many americans who faced the horrors of war so that liberty may triumph over fascism. judy: woody williams died last month in west virginia. he was 98 years old. and a never-seen self-portrait of vincent van gogh has turned up, hidden behind another painting. head of a peasanwoman, one of his known works. this x-ray image, at the national galleries of scotland, shows the newly found portrait, under layers of cardboard and glue. experts say it's from van gogh's early years, since it shows the
left ear that he famously cut off in 1888. still to come on the newshour. how a rape case involving a ten-year-old girl has become a flashpoint in the abortion debate. women and girls in afghanistan push for education in the face of taliban resistance. journalist mark leibovich discusses his new book on the powerful republicans who back donald trump. plus, much more. ♪ >> this is the pbs newshour from w eta studios in washington, and in the west, from the walter cronkite school of journalism. judy: in jerusalem today, president biden and israeli leaders discussed the threat posed by iran, despite differences over a possible diplomatic deal having to do with iran's nuclear program. the president also reiterated his support for a 2-state solution to the ongoing
israeli-palestinian conflict. today he faced questions about why he is not meeting with the family of a palestinian-american journalist, who was killed while reporting two months ago. nick schifrin begins our coverage. nick: on day two of the present visit, they welcomed him like a rock star. awarding him israel's highest civilian honor. earlier esident biden in the prime minister signed what officials called the blueprint for future cooperation including an american promise to use all elements and its national power to ensure iran never acquires a nuclear weapon. israel translate that as a credible military threat. >> if they continue to develop nuclear power, the free world will lose force. nick: presidents -- present
bidens present -- position >> we are not going to wait forever. nick: president biden also met and traded chuckles with benjamin netanyahu. pres. biden: a two state solution with two people working side-by-side in peace and security. nick: tomorrow president biden will bring that message to bethlehem where this mural will greet him. the prominent palestinian-american journalist killed two months ago this week. he has been reporting from the occupied area, he was her producer at al jazeera and was with her when she was killed. >> we kept walking until we
reached this point here. we got here, we heard the sound of an explosion, so we stopped. i turned immediately and shareen was there. i told her, they are shooting, we have to return. >> he says the shooting started about 750 feet away. >> i was shot by a bullet. shireen screamed that i got shot. the bullets continued in all directions. she ran in this direction but she couldn't get away. she hid here but the bullets kept coming. here are the bullets of the israeli occupation forces. she was killed by a bullet that pierced her helmet. >> who do you believe shot her? >> the israeli occupation
forces. they shot at us intentionally and directly. we were journalist, and there were no militants among us. if it was the palestinians who shot us, we would have said so. >> they are armed with cameras. the defense minister later said it was impossible to know for sure who fired the fatal shot. >> it is important to emphasize that during this event, like many others, hundreds of bullets were fired at troops which responded with firepower of their own. >> israeli say that there were other people with weapons, with guns firing at them at that moment. >> these are lies. the israeli army is lying. there were only journalists in this area and armed patrols. on july 4, the u.s. released a
statement saying based on investigations, gunfire from israel defense force positions were likely responsible. the bullet was badlyamaged. a senior israeli official objected to the u.s. statement, telling reporters you cannot say it's inconclusive on one hand but conclusive on the other hand. the palestinian justice minister also criticize the u.s. statement, saying it did not go far enough. >> american reporters unfortunately distorted, camouflage, and misled away from the path of justice and the rules of international law. >> for her knees, her aunt's death is an un-fillable void -- for her neice. >> what happened on the day of
her fernald -- on the day of her funeral was a testament to her legacy. tens of thousands came to carry her on their shoulders, the same way she carried their voices for 25 years. >> within israeli security forces attacked her pallbearers. >> they violated her right to dignity. >> this week, she and the rest of her family spoke to secretary of state antony blinken and asked for a meeting with president biden. >> i would tell him you have all the power to make a change, to make a difference. if you want to leave a lasting impression during your presidency and if you want to uphold all these values of human rights, protection of journalists, democracy, accountability, etc., this is your time, this is your chance to make a difference. >> u.s. officials say president biden is simply too busy on this trip to meet with the family.
meanwhie, senior israeli official says he does not think the killing will take away from any of the accomplishments or announcements made in the last two days. both u.s. and israeli officials are calling this trip a success. judy: with regard to our ran, both the u.s. and israel say they have the same goal, but what about when it comes to how to achieve that goal? nick: i think you just hit the nail on the head. both sides want to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon, but the u.s. wants to re-sign the iran nuclear deal, and israel says it is a bad deal. at the end of the day, what israeli officials say is they hope the iranian nuclear deal kind of dies over the next few months and that iran can be deterred through accommodation of economic punishment and military deterrence. but right now, iran has never been as close to a nuclear weapon as it is today. judy: we know that from israel,
president biden goes on to saudi arabia tomorrow. a lot of attention on that trip. what is known at this point about plans to meet with the crown prince muhamed ben salaam? nick: i ask whether he would shake his hand and the response was, we are focused on meetings, not greetings. for the record, that is neither a no or a yes. president biden was asked if he would bring up jamaal khashoggi in the killing that u.s. intelligence believes was personally blessed by mbs. president biden said my position on khashoggi is clear. if anyone doesn't understand it, they haven't been around for a while. each is also neither a yes or a no. judy: we will be watching that part of the trip very closely. nick schifrin reporting late
tonight from israel. thank you, nick. ♪ judy: the fda has announced nearly 800,000 more doses of a vaccine for monkeypox could be available by the end of the month. it comes amid criticism over the biden administration's response to this outbreak. william brangham has the latest. william: judy, over a thousand cases of monkeypox have been recorded in more than 40 states across the u.s. though experts believe that's a serious undercount of the real number. the monkeypox virus spreads through close skin-to-skin contact and its symptoms include extremely painful lesions that can last for weeks. states are grappling with a rising demand for testing, treatment and those vaccines, which have been in short supply. for more on this outbreak, i'm joined by david harvey, he's director of the national
coalition of std directors. david harvey, great to have you on the newshour. monkeypox is not technically an std, but we know it is passed by sex and sex like content. std clinics are at the forefront of this. can you give us a sense of what they are dealing with right now? >> thank you for having me. our system is severely burdened by this latest outbreak. we're defining this as a sexually associated infection. we know there is a vast undercount of cases because of slow rollout of testing with vaccines and treatment presents problems too. but the nations std clinics are bearing the burden of responding to monkeypox. there is no federal funding, believe it or not, for std outbreaks in america. so this latest outbreak is very
burdensome on an already overstretched network of safety net providers. william: we know that gay men and other men who have sex with men have been the principal number of cases thus far. is it your sense that the prevention and outreach and education campaigns, is the message getting out? david: not well. we are starting to see a serious ramping up of education efforts. unfortunately, there is some reminiscence of our experiences with covid. it's not the same, but we have had a slow, sluggish response. in the last two weeks, there has been very significant progress made, working hard on this at the white house level, at cdc and within the federal department of health and human services. but there is no doubt we need to be much more directly and
exclusively educating those who are at highest risk of monkeypox. and that is gay men and other men who have sex with men. william: you mentioned that the administration has been stepping up its efforts as of late. there has been a good deal of criticism for the sluggish response, as you describe it. is the criticism fair? have they been slow off the mark? david: some of the criticism is fair. people are dealing with this through a covid lens that may or may not be fair, actually. this is a different type of infection. the public health system has been strained. we know covid revealed that this latest infectious disease outbreak is also revealing the fact that we don't have an adequate public health system and it comes to dealing with sexually transmitted infections. even though monkeypox is not
technically regarded as a sexually transmitted infection, it is sexually associated, so it is -- the public health sector which is vastly underfunded in america is being asked to respond, which is why we need to increase funding for the system. william: 800,000 additional vaccines will be coming. are they effective and will they get to the people who most need them? david: we're hearing very good information about the effectiveness of this vaccine. there is a lot of confusion about it, though. it does take about six weeks to develop immunity. it is a two shot course of an -- injections. this is very good news, there is additional vaccine that hasn't been secured, but it is still probably not enough. the administration is even ramping up further in terms of ordering additional courses of vaccine beyond the 800,000.
that will be available in july. william so in addition to the : shortage of vaccines, we know that there has been not enough testing and not enough treatments available. i mean, on some level, does it feel like that this has been an inequitable response to this outbreak? david well, unfortunately, i : think there has been an inequitable response, limited vaccines. limited testing means that essentially we have a ration system around the united states and those who have best access to social media. and websites are learning about the availability of particularly vaccines. so one of the problems we're facing in the us is ensuring that there is an equitable access to vaccines and testing and that is going to strain our system for the coming months. william all right, david hardy, : director of the national coalition of std directors, thank you so much. david: thank you.
♪ judy: it is a case that has drawn national attention. a ten-year-old girl raped in ohio. her doctor said they could not terminate the pregnancy because it would break the state's six-week abortion ban. the doctor referred her to a provider in indiana, where the procedure was still legal. our stephanie sy has the story. stephanie: the indianapolis star broke the story earlier this month, and president biden mentioned it as he signed an executive order aimed at protecting reproductive rights. pres. biden: 10 years old. 10 years old. six weeks pregnant, already traumatized, was forced to travel to another state. imagine being that little girl. i'm serious, just imagine being that little girl, 10 years old. stephanie: but soon conservative
media outlets started questioning whether the story was true, and republican politicians soon followed, claiming her story was fake news. that includes ohio's attorney general dave yost in a fox news interview on monday. >> i know are prosecutors and cops in this state. there's not one of them that wouldn't be turning over every rock in their jurisdiction if they had the slightest hint that this occurred there. stephanie: but this did happen. yesterday law enforcement officials in columbus charged a 27 year old man with raping the girl. yost responded with this statement: we rejoice anytime a child rapist is taken off the streets. the disturbing case has raised questions over state abortion laws going into effect after the overturning of roe v. wade, and how the youngest victims could be impacted. i'm joined now by dr. katie mchugh, an ob-gyn based in indianapolis.
thank you for joining the newshour. dr. mchugh, i used the word victim because we're talking about a girl who was actually nine when sheas raped and impregnated. how is that fact that she was denied access to abortion care, even though she was just a few days past that 6 week mark when abortion becomes illegal in ohio -- how has that brought home what is going on in the wake of the supreme court's reversal of roe v. wade? >> thank you so much for having me on, and thank you for that question. this case of this poor girl coming out of ohio over into indiana is not unique. this is not the only time this has happened, nor will this be the only time this ever happens. we need to have abortion access so that patients like h and other people have access to the health care that they need. tragically, this is not uncommon. this is not an unusual circumstance. all of us who provide abortion
care have stories like this one where a preteen victim was sent to us for abortion services, because impregnation -- because of impregnation because of rate. this is tragic. this is indefensible. but this is why health care needs to be accessible for people. this is an example of how legislative and legal interference in a patient's bodily autonomy and their decision to make their own choices for their bodies is so important, and so important for us to protect this right. stephanie: pregnancylways carry some inherent medical risk. curious whether being so young, 10 years old, you would expect even more medical complications that could imperil the health of a child that young carrying a pregnancy all the way to term. >> great question.
younger patients have higher risk of multiple different medical conditions within pregnancy. everything from diabetes to high blood pressure, all the way to complications with delivery, like needing a c-section simply because their bones and joints are not well developed enough yet for a vaginally birth. that doesn't even take into account the mental health locations for forcing pregnancy and parenthood on someone at such a young age. stephanie: and would there be medical risks or repercussions from having an abortion at that young of an age? >> at -- especially at very early gestational ages, the risk of having an abortion is so low as compared to continuing a pregnancy or continuing to delivery. abortion is incredibly safe. it is well studied, and it is a compassionate choice in many circumstances. for a patient like the one that
we are discussing, abortion is a very safe alternative to an incredibly traumatic and very dangerous situation. stephanie: the national right to life counsel jim bopp said today about this 10 year old girl that, "she would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child." so there are still vocal people who believe life begins at conception, saying she should have had to carry the rapist's baby. what do you have to say to those people? >> my feeling about that comment from the attorney is, and i asked people to feel compassion for this person. this person is 10 years old. she is in the fourth grade. to ask a person to sacrifice
their entire future to someone else's ideas, to someone else's value system, is incomprehensible and the definition of inhumane. this person has her whole life in front of her, and i am so glad and grateful that she was able to get the medical care she deserved, to be able to have that life back and to be a child. stephanie dr. katie mchugh, an : ob-gyn based in indianapolis, thank you for joining the newshour. >> thank you for having me. ♪ judy: since reclaiming power in afghanistan nearly one year ago, the taliban have significantly rolled back rights for women and girls. new rules limit where women can work, require women to cover
their faces in public, and prohibit women from traveling without a male escort. the extremist government has also barred hundreds of thousands of girls from attending school. amna nawaz has more. amna: judy, this week marks 300 days since nearly a million girls across afghanistan were banned from entering their schools. under pressure, the taliban government announced in march that classes would resume, then reversed their decision, prompting women and girls to take to the streets in protest. this week, conflicting messages from taliban officials about if or when those schools would reopen showed the government still has no plan for girls to return to the classroom. joining me now for more on this, is pashtana durrani, the executive director of the non-profit education group, learn afghanistan. she fled afghanistan last year after the taliban returned to power, and is now a visiting fellow at wellesley college's centers for women. welcome back to the newshour. good to see you, and has been
300 days since girls were banned from secondary schools there in afghanistan. what does that mean for all those girls and what has life been like? >> they cannot socialize, they cannot mobilize. they are poor and cannot economically survive. they cannot go outside, the girls are depressed, they are hopeless. no one is even standing up for them. amna: the taliban keeps saying they do intend to reopen those schools and let the girls back into the classrooms. talk about capacity and resources and so on. do you believe them when they say they let -- they will let the girls go back to school? >> afghanistan has always been a poor country and kids have
always gone to school. having resources is only limited when it comes to girls education. how come the girls from grade 1-6 are still able to go to the same schools. higher education girls can still go to school. i don't think it is about resources. amna: before you left afghanistan, i was part of a large team that helped you a badge weight -- evacuate and got you to the united states. the organization you are running on the ground reached 7000 students across the country. what about today, are you able to reach any of them now? >> first i want to thank you for welcoming me to your family after last year. we just have 400 students age 13 to 18, from age -- grade seven
to 12. all of them are going to school secretly. there's nothing else to do. we cannot wait for the taliban to agree on this decision. we have to continue working and educating girls. amna: these girls are attending school secretly right now. are they worried for their safety and are you worried for their safety? >> definitely, i am worried about the fact that what if somebody follows them? what if somebody just rates the school? it has always been a concern. what if the taliban does the same thing? they have lost everything. a student was telling me they are getting educated in two
different afghanistan's. you feel sorry for the fact that the girls had a better future, better than ours, but now they don't. amna: you continue to try to get those girls some kind of education. you've seen people take to the streets in afghanistan. what else can other people be saying or doing right now that you think would help the taliban, to pressure them to reopen those schools and let the girls back in the classroom? >> the international countries have to stop pleasing the taliban and thinking they will react normally. that's not how they do. it's up to the international community to do the same. the taliban are traveling freely. stop them from traveling freely. if they are not letting girls get educated, why is that not
being stopped? all those things need to be the decision and the international community needs to act instead of not making sure they are doing their part. amna: if you could say one thing to girls out there who are worried they will never be allowed back in school, what would you say? >> it is our country and we have the right to exist, to get educated. amna: the executive director of the education group learn afghanistan. thank you for your time. ♪ judy: despite a robust job market in the u.s. rit now, the career path for some, notably young people of color,
is often dampened by a lack of skills needed for good jobs in today's economy. in pittsburgh, one group is trying to clear that path. correspondent fred de sam lazaro reports for the series agents for change and arts and culture, canvas. fred: it's a place where civic and business leaders come to visit, a place where leading jazz artists regularly come to perform. but for most to enter its bright spaces brimming with art, this is a school, a training center for many who struggled after leaving high school and perhaps didn't even graduate. for various training programs, these adult learners are able to reset their career paths in several in demand fields. to be baker's, for example, or chefs.
chemical lab or pharmacy technicians, clinical assistants, or horticulturalist. >> they signed up for world-class training center. fred: till strickland founded an institution now known as manchester bidwell. its main building was recently named in his honor. a tough place he says when he was growing up here. >> on balance, i would say 30% of my buddies ended up dead or in a penitentiary by the time they were 30 years old. so it was that kind of environment. fred: he fit right in, drifting and failing in high school. >> it was like i found what i was looking for at the time.
what i'm trying to do is make my pottery feel like the music, elevated, fresh, bright, hopeful. fred: that chance encounter with an art teacher put them on a lifelong journey, massaging clay and his imagination with the jazz always on. he took the young strickland under his wing. >> i said you are not like your buddies, you are going to college. fred: college put him on a solid career path, including a stint as a pilot. he uses art and music to enhance learning. he began with an arts and performance center in a row house donated by the episcopal diocese. >> he introduced me to the
mellon family and others. fred: wealthy funders he would later approach to support the programs he had started in construction work for people being displaced by the dying steel industry. one was john heinz, pennsylvania senator. >> he said i want to hire some black people for the food industry. i said i don't do food training. i said senator, it looks like we are going into the food training business. fred: today the popular culinary programs benefit everyone. >> this is the message. light, good food, the music is oxygen. >> marty was hard to start the music program years ago. >> we built the program one
position at a time. fred: he used his connections to attract big names like these eagle sb. >> billy taylor and max roach. >> they have produced records for major artists, earning five grammy awards, and they have sold millions of cds. but it is the school outreach that he says have enduring impact. >> jazz is life. thousands of kids will be bussed in for a series of concerts. we know the musicians are trusting each other implicitly. fred: that trust and respect are evident in results, said kevin jenkins, who took over the day-to-day running from strickland several years ago. as much as 15,000 students have
come through here over the decades. some with checkered or criminal past. the only requirements for admission are high school or a basic reading test. >> at all levels of the organization, internally and externally, it's about relationships. fred: relationships cemented by free education, without which most students would not be able to attend. >> the skies the limit. you can do whatever you want. we are not saying you have to do it by yourself. that is why we are here. >> you walk in, there's like that weird wire sculpture hanging over the thing. it makes me feel like this is a space that promotes creativity, and i like that. fred: those attending here are resetting career paths, but the goal is to help set the path earlier. hundreds of current public school students come here after
school to explore the arts, screenprinting, sewing, photography, and of course, ceramics. this 16-year-old high school student is the poster child protege of bill strickland. he first came here six years ago and recalls watching the ceramics teacher. >> the idea that a small thing can turn into something that big just got my brain interested. fred: an innate curiosity that has been enriched over the years by pottery, horticulture, and robotics. in his green house, he uses all three. >> it does everything from weeding, seeding, growing. >> build a private school for poor people, and you will be close to the solution.
fred: it's proximity to the downtown made it an attraction for redevelopment. >> it's a short distance, but a world away, absolutely. gourmet food and world-class art can cure cancer of the spirit. >> it is a model that is easily replicated in it he's -- in any city, he insists. there are 13 centers, including one in israel. judy: what a wonderful story. fred's reporting is in partnership with the undertow stories partnership. ♪ judy: many books have been
written about donald trump in his presidency. but here we examine the motivations of a public that initially were wary of him but later pledged loyalty. journalist and author mark leibovitz does that in his latest book, "thank you for your servitude." mark, welcome back to the newshour. congratulations on this book. i want to say, as you point out, this is not a book about donald trump, but you also make it clear what you think about him and what you believe he has done to this country. mark: what is interesting is that people have been his biggest enablers, have been submissive to him throughout the last few years and have supported him every step of the way -- a lot ofhe people who have been some of the most enduring supporters of his and congress, in the senate, lindsey
graham, kevin mccarthy, mitch mcconnell, in privately have a great deal of contempt for him. mitch mcconnell is the exception, he has publicly condemned the president much more vocally than others. ultimately, the former president has been made possible by the complicity of the republican party and eight sort of glorified geriatric golfer in florida. judy: you had access to a number of these people in leadership, kevin mccarthy, senator lindsey graham. give us a sense of how they explain their ongoing support? mark: it's sort of an angel of washington story that made it work for them. kevin mccarthy knows the surest way of blowing that dream up is
to get on the wrong side of donald trump. lindsey graham desperately wanted to be reelected as a senator from south carolina in 2020. he needed the blessing of donald trump. if you go down the line, mitch mcconnell knew that if you wanted to work with the republican president to get the judges he was so desperate to get in the supreme court, he needed to work with the white house. politics is about dealmaking. the messages are very precarious and they have sort of turned the other way and i think they would say privately -- judy: so much reporting in here that is striking. this is one part of your conversation with liz cheney, where she said the vast majority of elected republicans understand how dangerous trump
is, but they also acted as though they are bystanders. do you buy that? mark: very much so. she was talking expliciy in that quote about mitch mcconnell. there are some of the more active supporters, graham and mccarthy -- one of the thing -- things these hearings in the last few weeks have put in sharp relief is that there is another way to do this. there is the simple patriotism of telling the truth, among honest people like cassidy hutchinson or rusty bowers from arizona who have stepped forward and told the truth. judy: i want to ask you to get at this distinction between republicans, americans who genuinely believe that but general -- what donald trump said, they think he is the right answer still. and on the other hand, the
republicans who, your argument is, they know better, but they still are working for him. mark: the working title of this in my own head is they all knew better. there's a sort of chicken and egg question involved in this. everyone saying one of donald trump superpowers is that he has the unyielding support of his face. -- of his base. i think the reason largely is not so much that he has this magic touch over his voters. he does to some degree, but ultimately, the white light has been raised by a lot of the leaders of the party. especially after the election, after january 6, they have sort of broken free. yes, it could cause all sorts of
short-term pain and discomfort but ultimately, they are in a different place right now for the republican party. judy: what did they say when you press them on how much they think about what this means for the legacy of the republican party? mark: one thing i was struck by across the board was how much respect they have for the legacy question. rudy giuliani saying i don't care if i lose, that will be my legacy. lindsey graham set i don't care. kevin mccarthy look like i had three heads when i ask if history would remember him as someone who lied for trump. about any ramification beyond the short-term, donald trump's blessing and getting to the next election.
that does fall in contrast to people like liz cheney who talked all the time about the truth. to them there is a much bigger state at hand. there is just much more to consider when making these decisions. judy: did you get a sense of what it might take to get these particular republicans to change their minds? or is that just not even a consideration? mark: there have been so many times that we've all been through this, saying this time feels different. if you can persevere through and insurrection in second impeachment, and still a few weeks later we the front runner for 2024, it shows that you are pretty bulletproof within your party.
he is the clear front runner and i don't see him going away anytime soon. maybe the next opportunity for a fever break is if republicans badly underperform at the midterms. ultimately, that's in a few months, and we will see if he shows and abilities to be forgiven and keep going to matter what happens to him and what happens to the party. judy: mark leibovitz with some remarkable conversations with the leading republicans across the country. the book is "thank you for your servitude." mark, thank you very much. ♪
judy: a death duel is someone who helps people at the end of life. her story was discovered through an open call for ideas that the public. >> struggle with while were not talking about that culturally and societal -- societally. there's a great deal of what happens after we die that scares the living daylights out of most of us. my brother-in-law peter st. john was diagnosed with berkis lymphoma. so i went out to new york where -- and essentially walked peter and my sister and my niece
through the last two months of his life. i did all the supportive things around his death. and it was, i think, helpful to have somebody else to think about those things and handle them. peter's end of life was the way that i finally saw what the need actually is and what the role could properly look like. a death doula is somebody who does all of the non-medical care and support of the dying person and the family, or the circle of support through the process. there's a number of details that people really overlook when it comes to preparing for death. things like who you want to make your decisions for you in the event that you can't, what type of life support you want, what kind of care you wanna receive at the end of your life? we need to look holistically at our lives and think about all the information and knowledge that only we hold that's gonna be really hard for somebody that we love to handle after we die. one interesting element of the work is that we learn to understand that we're going to be falling in love with people that are leaving all the time. and so going in you form these really tight relationships, you get to know people, you get to know their families, you get to know what they cared about. it's hard to not fall in love
with them. we grieve with them and we grieve for them as well. planning for our deaths is a really important tool and powerful way to help us understand what we value in our lives. for example, when i'm thinking about my death, i'm thinking about my relationships, who i loved, how i love them, whether or not i was loved. i'm thinking about my work, what imprint have i made on the world? i'm thinking about my lega. will anybody care after i'm gone? my hope is that for my work people take away how precious this life is. that they really engage with this gift that we've been given to feel and to breathe and to eat and to have sex and to dance and to cry and to feel the full gamut of emotions while we're here. cause it's a very brief time that we're here. my name is alua arthur and this is my brief, but spectacular take on living like we're dying. judy: what a great gift. you can find more of our brief but spectacular videos online at pbs.org/newshour/brief.
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