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good evening, adam schiff and the role in congress about military action. one of the few washington lawmakers said by not voting on the escalation of military action, we're setting a dangerous precedent for the future, then a conversation with jon se kad da, one of the first to bring music into the latin spring. glad you could join us. those conversations coming up right now.
2001 authorization of military action against islamic state militants in syria and iraq. adam schiff of california is leading efforts to bring this to a congressional vote. good to have you on our set tonight, congressman. >> thank you, great to be with you. >> good news is your seat is safe. you don't seem to be in any trouble. >> for tomorrow's election, but your party is facing an uphill battle. what do you make in advance of tomorrow's vote just a few hours from now? >> i think it's going to be close and as i say, it's quite true, it's all going to come down to the turnout. if it exceeds projections, we'll do fine. in turnout doesn't, we're going to be in trouble and we're fighting the historic trend in the midterm of this president's second term. so, we are up against a bit of a breeze blowing us in the face, but nothing that can't be overcome. >> in the house, you are used to as a democrat being a minor
thety party. but if republicans take over the house and if they increase seats in the house, what do you expect? >> i think first of all, a lot more of the same. we'll continue to have this gridlock, but it will be worse because in the house, we've had probably 50 votes to appeal obamacare. we haven't had that in the senate. actually, is senate has moved forward with things like a comprehensive immigration bill. if is senate, too, is ináúb republican hands, should count on now its fate of sort of symbolic votes to repeal obamacare and vote houses. dodd frank and deregulate the investment banking. normally, you get that wave of deregulation after you've recovered from the economic crisis. we're still in recovery mode, but yet, they're pushing to undo
some of the protections. you'll see an effort to unwind some of the environmental protections the president has put in place. you'll see a a push on the keystone pipeline and probably the biggest impact, too, is if we have a vacancy on the supreme court. >> how then as a member of the min minority party if this turns out to be the case in the house and senate, how do you govern? how do you wage war on the fight that needs to be fought when you're fighting from that point? >> well, you know, i think there are a couple of things we have to do. one, we have to call them out on in the direction they want to take the country and this will you know, unfortunately for better for worse, the day after this midterm is when the presidential campaign gets started and what they do if they were to gain the majority in both house, will say a lot about
what kind of a presidential campaign their going to run, and we need to call them on it. we need to call them on a precisely what policies they want to enact. right now, i think there's a sentiment that's just going to vote against the president's party. they're not voting for the republicans because they don't know what the gop stands for. in the next year or two, we'll find out what the gop stands for and i think that is something we're going to have to flush out. we'll is the find a way to be protective. in a way, to be protective is on the suggest of immigration reform. immediately after the last election, the grown ups in the republican party made the decision if they wanted to have a chance at the white house, they needed to do immigration reform. once we get through those, the
grown ups outside the beltway are going to tell the tea party click we need to get out of the way. need to get immigration reform done or say good-bye to the white house for a very long time. >> a question i asked you about what might happen tomorrow on the eve of tomorrow's elections, the reason why we wanted you on the program is to talk about these other issues. i want to sit back for a second and let you explain, how this works, how the president is operating under one authority. he's operating at the moment and why congressional vovinvolvemens necessary. i think most americans paying attention to this, national security is clearly an issue here. i think with the elections tomorrow. they see a president who has obviously already engaged in this war with isis, so under what authority is he doing that? what is he calling for?
what's not happening? zpl wel >> well, the president is relying on the authority of the 2001 authorization, as well as the 2002 against iraq. both really don't apply here but, in the absence of one and to come to congress and feeling the administration that they couldn't get this dysfunctional congress to do anything, they didn't want to put all their eggs in the congressional basket. they realized this is a tentative legal basis and frankly, i don't think it's enough. i think congress really needs to act as you know, i introduced a resolution authorizing what the president has been undertaking. this is a new war we're in. it's likely to last for years. the constitution gives congress a loan the power to declare war
and that declaration now takes the form of an authorization to use force. if we fail to act, then future presidents are going to look at this and say we no longer need conscious' approval to go to war. we can go on our own. that would be a very dangerous precedent. because while i have confidence this president -- has been resistant to an escalation of that war effort while many are calling for the introduction of american ground troops, who knows what the next president will be like and we've got to be concerned about the precedent we're setting. >> what scares you most about the precedent we're setting? >> that feature precedence can decide they can make war without the buy in of the congress. that also means you don't have
to buy in of the american people. the power of the president becomes that much greater. i find a deep irony that the same speaker of the house of represents, says that the president has too much authority, suing the president for implementing the affordable care act because he feels the president's enacting too much authority is the same speaker content to let the president go to war without having a vote of confident. >> when you don't have the congress, it sometimes means you don't have the buy of the american people. in this instance, i'm not sure i read it the same way. that is to say that i don't know that any president would not have the buy in, whatever that
mean, of the american people, the bill of goods about our absolute necessity to fight this war on terror on the grobe. i'm not so sure that the president doesn't if not overtly tap in the support of the american people so long as as we think it's fighting ad min ligs al-qaeda. >> i think you're right. i think the president does have the support of the american people and if we had a vote in congress, i think there would be an authorization. here's the problem for the current military action and that is things are going to get tough. they always do. they are going to be set backs. even know, people are saying is this the right strategy, we need ground troops and what is happening in syria, when things get tough, you want to make sure you have a strong bipartisan level of support for what's
going on because the country will start to question and you want the congress bought in, so they have the patience and can go back to the con sfich wents and say yes, these are legitimate concerns. in the absence of any kind of a buy in by the congress, i think the military action is op a very slender footing and when things get tough, that can be a real problem. >> does the president read what happened in 2001? 2002, does he read that as a blank check to do whatever he wants against isis or did the clock start xwen on that sort of 60-day rule without being declared war and come back to congress at the oend end of that
50 days. >> i think he's operating the assumption those war power clocks, they're viewing this as the authorization that would be required, so their view is we have the authorization. we don't need to worry about the clock anymore. but that's a very slender read. the reason why they choose to rely on the authorization, one, they weren't confidence that even though congress supports what the administration is doing, b we will have a fight over whether in that wording, we should preclude these to the american ground troops and that was the primary reason wanted to come to congress. the second reason why he relied op the opposition to choose force, the alternative was to say i have these inherent powers and wisely i think, they decided
that was a precedent they did not want to save. >> he's already saved -- he's not interested. he said things before and had to move the line. what's your sense of whether or not he means what he says? >> i think he means what he says, but what do people mean by the use of ground troops. i think there might come a time when the military says hey, we need to take back mosul, for example, that can be there to advise the iraqis, firm up their spine in the fight, so i want to be able to put a small number of people embedded with these units. there may come a time when chairman dempsey makes that case. >> 30 seconds right quick so that i'm clear and the audience is clear, given the hard time that mcconnell and boehner give
the president all the time on public policy matters why would john boehner not challenge is president on what he's doing if we can given the president more power? >> i think that the war more importantly, at the moment, they didn't want the war issue to distract from the issues they wanted to do tog voters with during the midterms, so, they're happy to discuss this from after the midterms, but can't want to change the subject. >> in other words -- >> yeah. >> good to have you on. i don't want to be premature and say congratulations tomorrow, but it looks like you're going to pull out your race. >> great to be with you. >> coming up, jon secada with a
new memoir. two-time grammy winner is one of the first bilabel artists to have success. his first album sold more than 2 million copies and he's just written an album, new day. when his father was finally released after being incarcerated by the castro regime. before we start, a look back at jon secada. ♪ the love we share makes us one time and space can't overcome i'm never too far away i'm never
too far away ♪ >> so many of your songs have to do with the notion of loss. by design, i think. >> loss, yeearning, with a lot f passion. it's always the case for a singer song writer and i grew up list bing to my heroes being singer song wyariters. that's what i long for. >> why the loss link for you? >> i don't know. i think reflective by, most of the songs i've written, i've incorporated in conversations that i have with guys that i work with, we talk b about our
selves, these things we wish we had. all these things turn into a reflection and somehow, for some reason, this yearning is something that i stick to and gravitate too in my songs and but still at the end of the day, there's a little bit of a hope attached it as well. >> i like the yearning, ainge anguish, but a little bit of hope. zpl i have to know from my resernl, there are a number of of folk ts that you listened to and add mired. everybody loves stevie wonder. marvin gay. barry manilow. but i was struck by manilow. he's been here many times. i love barry manilow.
listening to him fwrgrowing up the midwest. it actually made sense to me. >> his phrasing, listening back to those songs and what i like about that. as a musician, he got signed to do records. he has such a beautiful, simple delivery. i found his phrasing that was very, very real. our guy this is their songs, the delivery, the way they sing. they just have a connection with people.
for me, that was something i found and i put barry in the list i really felt. >> that's why i assume the lyrical content means so much to you. it means a lot to you. >> that magic of the melody and lyric, you can really tap sbo it and touch people's hearts with it. zbh would all of this had happened had you not come.
>> i came to this country when i was 12. >> cuba and made it here by 12. i gravitated to wanting to be completely into american entertainment. i was hypnotized by pop, r and b. >> by listening to it. >> i didn't know a word of english, but that's what i wanted. no turning back. >> what do you recall at 9 and 10 and 11 and 12 about what your family had to endure with your the father leaving? >> i talk about that in the book in detail.
i was raised an only child. i'm close to my family. i lost my father about three years ago. my mother's still live. so, even as a child, i saw what my parents were going through to get me out of cuba and a better life. and those memories have stayed with me always. that connection with sacrifice, perseverance. and definitely those memories as an 8-year-old are still there. but from the perspective of seeing what my parents did to protect me and at the end of the day for us eventually, eventually for me to come here to the states and knowing this, understanding what they went through, showed me to have the kind of hif and realize the
american dream in a way they wanted to and they heard about feeling -- for me and now, my children. >> back to your music. is there anything that we hear that you want us to hear in your music in the lyrical content n the humanity expressed that connects to that part of you that will never go away. that struggle. >> you know what? no. i've always from the minute i wam kayembe to the states, i am very proud of my roots. to be an african america. that will be something that again, that's engrained in my heart. it's who i am. i grew up in a community that was very welcoming to hispanic person people, but the minute i really got into music, i just wanted to spread myself based on what my experience based on
loving at the moment. i just loved the fact that yikd go ahead and gravitate towards that passionate love, connection, of the things and people i looked up to. and of course, my roots and everything i'm all about, they're still in there. >> you're one of the early persons where latin music is concerned in this country, just explodes on the american scene. a few years down the road, some younger folk to come in and push you to the side jaus little bit. i think of j lo, ricky martin. how did you process that when you saw them open the gate. how do you navigate that? >> i was to proud because historically now, i can look back and say i was in the -- as
a result, i have workeded and seen successes of all my leagues. i've worked with jennifer, ricky, mark. and i'm proud of them f -- an ar hits being able to sing both and it's wonderful and i've done so many things in my career and i'm just proud of all my colleagues. i've had tremendous careers and glad i was able to get in the past in the '90s. >> ain't no music like music
money. they call, man, they call. again, i repeat, his new pook is out, a new day, a memoir. a fans down the years, his memoir about the bachelor. we see the dploir, but this will give the back story and i think you'll enjoy it. good to have you on the program, my friend. that's our show for tonight. thanks for watching and as always, keep the faith. >> for more on today's show, visit tavissmiley. >> next time, new breakout singer congress writer, candace springs. that's next time. we'll see you. >> by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. thank you.