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>> chris: i'm chris wallace. is america safer one year after the raid that took down bin laden? we'll getet latest about the war on terror. assess ams and potential security gaps when we sit down with the member of the inner circle that planned the capture of bin laden. john brennan chief could you remember -- counterterrorism advisor we'll talk with two of the country's most pop pop preacher. joel and victoria osteen.
and also the obama administration gets another going over in the supreme court. what happens if the former constitutional law professor has two priorits ruled unconstitutional. and the power player of the week. it is all happening in the zoo, all right now on fox news sunday. and hello again from fox news in washington. next week marks the first anniversary of the daring night time raid in pakistan when navev seals stormed bin laden's compound and killed the world's most wanted terrorist? we invited counterterrorism chief john brennan. welcome back to fox news sunday. >> thank you, chris. >> chris: before we get on the war on terror wheeland you about
the chinese under u.s. protection. >> we are working closely with the individuals involved in this and so i am going to leave it to others who have for it >> chris: can you tell me this, how does the president balance his support for and desire to protect human rights dissidents on one hand and not wanting to damage u.s. relations with china. >> the president has to balance the commitment to human rights. also, that we continue to carry out our relationships with key countries over seas. china-u.s. relations are important and we make sure we do this in the appropriate way. >> chris: would he not give up and sacrifice chen to satisfy
the chinese. >> the president faced similar situations in terms of the requirement and i am confident that president and others will find the right way forward. >> chris: forgive me, will he protect the security of dissident chin. >> he will do what is best for the united states and individuals involved. fbi and department of homeland security said that the terrorist may try to strike around the first chamber of commerce of the take down of osama bin laden. how seriously do you take the idea of the anniversary plot and is there new information on terrorist activity. >> there is no credible report right now. but there is an under plot. but the counterterrorism community is used to make sure we are vigilant as possible to
guard against the efforts of al-qaida and terrorist. it was a momentous day in u.s. history and we'll make sure we will not let down our guard and we'll stay extra vigilant. >> chris: it is primarily a precaution and not specific evidence. >> being in the counterterrorism business. we have reports of threats to u.s. interest and plots to carry out attacks. it is up to the professionals and intelligence and law enforcement and security environments to track down all of the lead that's what we do right now. >> chris: we heard a lot about secret service agents acting recklessly in columbia and reports that they have done it for years. how seriously do you take the secret service activity and reckless behavior as a possible lapse in security.
>> first of all, the secret service has done a great job in protecting the first family. reports of misbehavior is something that head of secret service is taking seriously and taking ark gressive and pedey action against the individuals involved. by all accounts the security of the president was not compromised. but mark put down the law with the secret service behavior as to what they are supposed to be doing. >> chris: the prospect of secret service agents taking women they don't know and the possibility of security information being in their rooms would strike me that your hair would have been on fire. >> it raises a number of questions about what happened and was there any time that these activities put at risk
classified information or security. there is an investigation that is still ongoing and we satisfied ourselves that there was not a threat to the president. but mark sullivan is focused on this and continue to say focused and make sure we got to what happened there. and taking the actions going forward that avguards the president and insures that everything is done to prevent recurances. >> chris: former tsa screeners were arrested in los angeles area for allegedly taking bribes to allow drugs to be moved through security check points airports. do you worry about screeners taking money for terrorist. >> we want these poem to fulfill their responsibilities which is thoprotect the american public. any allegations will be investigate would thoroughly and the head of tsa is interested in
making sure he has a work force that understands what their performance requirements are. he's looking into allegations of wrong doing and bribery and that raises a number of concerns whether from the stand point of allowing people with drugs and terrorist can take advantage of. they are pursued and investigated and john pistol is a first class manager and leader at tsa. >> there is a lot of reports they have raised questions about whether tsa is doing the right job and screening for the right things or whether we got caught up in the burrcratic morass where old ladies and little children are screened. do we need to look at tsa in the creening procedures. >> i think tsa is looking at their procedures and make adjustments if necessary. this is something that tsa has
done successfully over the years and our ability of preventing terrorist from getting on board of the aircraft is significant low enhanced compared to a decade ago. john pistol is looking at procedures and if we have to make adjustments to make sure why are not preventing people from geth on planes in a speedy fashion and optmyselfing the ability to stop terrorist, this is what he is doing. >> obama administration refused to allow pictures and video from the bin laden raid to be made public. he won a case in federal court to keep those kinds of pictures and videos under seal, why? >> there is no doubt what so ever that bin laden is dead. it is it a successful raid on the compound. what we don't want to do is it put out anything that will unnecessarily incite emotions on
the issue. thyself photos was confirmation for the government that it was bin laden. >> chris: i would like to follow up on that and i would like to show you a video that the obama campaign running. take a look . >> he took the harder and more honorable path and the one that produced in my opinion the best result. >> chris: if the president is so concerned about not inciting violence about putting our soldiers in the theater. why make a issue in the campaign. >> i don't do fol ticks and - politics. he had the circumstantial evidence and it was a gustsy call what i will do is typeset
to provide the president advice and counselto destroy al-qaida as an organization . >> chris: forgive me chief counterterrorism advisor, if you felt that video was dangerous and by your own words incite violence to americans you being advise the president to cool it. >> i adicizehim. >> i will continue to provide that advice to the president. >> chris: can you tell me. >> the advice is private advice i give to him. mr. #1: is it fair to suggest that mitt romney wouldn't have approved the raid. >> i think the president made the appropriate decision to the american people when he authorized that raid. >> chris: and i understand. he deserves. >> i don't do politics. i am not a demdem-- democrat or a republican.
i just try to keep the president safe. >> chris: one year after the raid how big of a threat are al-qaida central and the apac region and al-qaida and lone wolf terrorist in this country. >> we have degrade the organization significant low and we have taken off of the battle field of the founding leader. we are determined to destroy that organization . that will continue to require us to maintain the pressure. al-qaida whether in afghanistan or pakisstan. we are working close with the yemeni partners. because there is a demonstrated attempt to try to carry out attacks against our nation and home land with the printer cart rage -- cartridge efforts. we'll degrade that organization in yemen.
lone wolf and actor phenomenon is something that we are mindful of and vigilant about. working daily basis, the fbi is coordinating the efforts with the local law enforcements here and working with the partners over seas. the internet shows terrorist organization to recruit and incite individuals to carry out those atax. >> the president gave the cia and military greater leeway to carry out strikes against the operators in yemen which is the greatest source of concern now. even if we don't know who they are. signature strikes, because they have signature but not specific identity that they are involved in the various deeds. there were reports that you were concerned about giving greater leeway. you were concerned we might hit
people that were not involved and this could be a recruiting tool for al-qaida. >> the drones is a capable tool to use against the terrorist abroad. it has capability to monitor their activities. it provides a good insight. and it has the capability of carrying out strikes as well. when we do this, we are doing it in cooperation with the partnersvillely. this is something that the president has told us we need to work closely with the partners and so in yemen in particular, these groups and al-qaida in the peninsula are determined to kill americans . the president will do whatever we can to stop them from taking american blood. >> chris: we'll take you back to the bin laden raid, and we'll put up two pictures.
both pictures are up. this is the morning of april 29th a year ago today in the dip -- diplomatic that the president said it was a go and he would order the raid then we have a picture, small room off of the situation room where you and the president and the war cabinet watched as the raid went down. what is your most vivid memory of a year ago. >> that day will live in all of our memories for the rest of our lives and that was a solemn day for all of us who gathered in the room. my thoughts went back and forth being focused on the mission and concerned about the security of our special forces and trying to do everything possible to make sure the mission was a success . it was a dave reflection on all of the lives that had been taken
by al-qaida and bin laden organization. many of us lost friends. i lost teammates of my high school baseball team and fbi colleague. and others. those images and memories flashed through my miped that day and it was over due and i am glad we seized the opportunity so that bin laden could kill no more. >> finally, i understand when you went up to new york for the 10th anniversary of numb -- 9-11 you were given a bracelet. >> yes, i wear it and look at it so that it reminds me of what we need to do to prevent a trannel dee like that from happen make sure american families and others in the world will not insurance the pain and sorrow that bin laden brought upon them. it is a way to keep me going and make sure when times get tough, i am going to continue to stay
focused on the yob that the president anded me to do. mr. brennan, thank you for coming in and talking with us and thank you for the 15 or 20 years of work. the world is a better place without him. thank you, chris. >> up next. america's most popular teachers joel and victoria osteen. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be yours. i remember the day my doctor told me i have an irregular heartbeat, and that it put me at 5-times greater risk of a stroke. i was worried. i worried about my wife, and my family.
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>> chris: on sunday tens of thousands of people will pack national's park here in washington but not for a baseball game. they'll come for america's night of hope, inspirerational event put on by joel osteen. >> you will become everything god wants to you be and have. >> he is pastor of the america's largest congregation with more than 40,000 members and the weekly service on television reaches 10 million households. >> i know i am looking at mighty men and women of faith. you are history makers. >> chris: joining us now are the pastors of lakewood church and influential spiritual figures in this counselry joel and victoria osteen. >> great to be with you. >> chris: you are holding the nights of hope, tens of
thousands of people coming out to hear your message. what are you trying to tell them? >>ine though there is difficult times in the country and god is good and on our side and nothing is a surprise to him and you keep your faith to him you will have peace in the midst of the difficult times. >> chris: victoria, so many people coming out on a saturday night, why? >> i think everybody wants to be encouraged. you know, you want to be encouraged and that there is a future and hope and we hear a lot of negative thing necessary life and it is not just isolated and people it resinates with them and encouraged and be able to look at their future and know that there is manage to look forward tompt >> chris: let's talk to that. this get to controversy. you offer a prosperity gospel. be a better parent and career and critics say you are more of
a motivational peeker than a pastor . >> the fact is, chris. i want to motivate people and be a better parent and overcome an addiction and leave the past behind. i don't take that as a criticism that i want to motivate people. i grew up a preacher's kid and my gift is to talk about every day life and it is sometimes a prosperity gospel and bee we are supposed to excel. it is not getting rich but the seeds of greatness to come out and for a while growing up. to be a christian, you have to be poor and defeat humble by suffering. i believe god is on our side and he wants us to be the best in life and a great parent or business person and a great college student. >> chris: explain to that. how do you do that in >> one by
living by the principles of the bible if you feel guilty because of past mistakes and you will never rise up and be who god created to you to be. much of it has to do with our attitude and words we speak and treat others and not just to be blessed. but they are principles in the scripture that helps the seeds of greatness to come out. >> chris: victoria, joel does not talk, to the critics and the negative people doesn't talk about the devil and doesn't talk about hell or sin. aren't those all you could say downers but aren't they important parts of religion. >> he does talk about that but from a different angle. instead of saying you did bad and sinned. he just said, you can do better and you can work hard and be focus disciplined. it is it saying it in reverse. when i talk to my kid encourage
them and inspire them and cause them to do better. i don't beat them down from doing wrong but show them how to do right. jesus pointed people in another direction. he never beat them down. >> chris: jesus, i don't mean to teach youhe could be tough. >> he could be tough. one specific time he was tough he got angry with the merchants in the temple and he got tough then. but the principle was. they were using the gospel to gain. and so what were they going to do with that, i don't know. that did upset him and rarely did he lash out. he was always among the people and he wasn't held nup the synagogue or temple. he was walking with the people and reaching out to the people and touching them and making them better than when they were before. that is kind much what i feel like our message does. we are not denying we can do
wrong, but focusing on what woo can do right it is it the goodness of god that leads people. 92 you generally stay away from politics certainly more than preachers do. i want to grow the people who listen to me and i don't want to divide and subtract. you are here in washington this week preach meeting with politicians. i will and you about some of the issues that confront the country. there is it a lot of hispanics in your congregation and houston. how should we deal with the illegal immigrants. >> i am on the side of mercy, but i think we have to secure borders and i know both sides of the argument. i don't know the answer, but i am always going to fall on the side of mercy. especially those who grew up here. i don't know what the right thing is to do.
>> chris: amnesty is not a dirty word to you? >> i don't know that that is the answer. but i haven't heard of a great solution yet. it is so complicated and like somebody said we can't pack up 12 million and tell them to leave and i don't know if it is right to say here is 12 million who came here illegally. i wish i knew a good answer. >> chris: is being gay a sin? >> being gay, the scripture said is a sin. and people say you are a gay hater and barber. i am not. gays are some of the nicest and kindest and most loving poem in the world. but my faith is based on what the scripture said and thos the way i read the scripture. mr. #1: do you think the gays should have rights of civil unions and marriage. >> we should not discriminate against anybody. i don't think there is an issue. where you should not visit a gay
loved one. i am not for gay marriage. but not for discriminating. mr. #1: are mormons, true christians? >> i believe they are followers of christ. i think the debate gets into. i don't believe that mormonism is traditionalorth dox christianity. but i go back to when i hear mitt romney and mormon. i believe he was raised from the dead and i love jesus. i believe they are followers are croist and i am not looking to exclude and push them out. >> chris: victoria, what do you think of president obama saying that religious institutions, not churches, but hospitals and charities should have to provide insurance, coverage that includes contraceptivesine if it is against their teachings.
>> i hate to get to the point where people man date. this is always been a democracy can people vote, so it is difficult you know, for me to say yeah, that is good. i think we as a poem should be able to vote on things like that and i am just not you know, i don't want to be told what to do in any area, so i think it is like everything else. vote on those things. and just see. >> chris: it is true of every profession. and occasionally i am sure teleevange list gets in a scandal and corrupted by mon yefame. the fact is, you are world famous and you make enormous amount of money because people buy your books. how do you avoid temptation, victoria? >> we stay close to us each other as a couple and as a
family. we just do our best. i just think that staying close together and being connect communicating. we have been married 25 years and two great children. i think that you can just do your best. you know what, we really search our heart every day pray and and god to help us. it may look big and grand. but we are just two people. we are ordinary people. we pinch ourselves. it is hard to believe. we are grateful for the influence that god gave us. >> chris: let me bring jole in it. it is not tempation but deliverance from evil. >> we try to start off together to search your own heart. and i learn from the mistake of the past and many ministers that fell are friends of ours. cucome down a lot faster than
you went up. i haven't changed i have done our focus is not around money or fame or success. it is around poem. >> chris:ly -- as you end your week here in washington, what is the spiritual state of our union and what can we do better? >> we can always do better in coming together in unity. it somes like when i grew up. talking about the government and law makers now, there was a little more compromise or maybe that is not i good word, but a spirit to work together and today i don't so that as much. and if somebody is can't get 100%, they will not be happy. i don't get 100 percent of what i want. spirit talks about unionitiy. the country would be better if we come together in unity.
>> chris: victoria and joel, thank you for bringing your message of hope to this program and city. we can use it we want to thank the ostones for talking to us earlier. the obama administration apores to get another supreme court smack down. what happens if the constitutional law professor in the oval office suffers two big dephots . -- defeats. [ nadine ] buzzzz, bzzzz, bzzzz, bzzzz,
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>> to the latino community and troying to use that scare card if you will to generate awe support - a support for election. >> it is wrong and counter productive to criminalize people because of status. >> chris: republican governor jan brewer and dick durbin with reactions to the supreme court case challenging the arizona crack down on illegal immigrants. brit hume, fox news senior analyst. liz marlantes of the christian science monitor. kimberly strassel of the wall street journal and charles lane. >> the court, it is dangerous to read too much in the questions that justice act. there was a wide spread perception that they did not
think much of the administration's arguments and lawsuit to strike down the arizona crack down just as they are skeptical on the met's obama care. how damaging to the president if in june the court were to rule that the former constitutional law was wrong on both. >> it is damaging with particularly health care. it is his proudest achievement and it is struck down it brars the stamp of illegitimacy. it is it unpopular and there is a shot where people say it takes the issue off of the table. i don't buy that. i think the arizona law may be in more trouble with the court than the health care law.
it is not as important as the health care law . but it doesn't help him either to have his position in the enforcement of the immigration laws resisted by the supreme court. it is embarrassing and gives the arizona law a boost in the public's imagination. >> these are two big issues in american domestic politics and policy. health care and immigration. if the supreme court upholds or goes against them on both. isn't that tough? >> on health care, i think it is going to be different for the arizona law. yes, you will have conservatives making the argument that the former constitutional law proor is on the wrong side of the issue. particularly in the case of the arizona law, there is a good chance if the court rules against the obama administration that could fire up the hispanic
voters. we know that he will not win white voterss and he's in trouble with them. and henies to get the bigger share of the hispanics vote. they will be key in a number of swing sphate states. it is it going against the obama administration there is it political fall out that is beneficial to them. >> chris: let's talk about the hispanics and how they react to that, kim. the president can rally the hispanic voters if the court upholds the arizona law. it may not be the slam dunk. put up the poll. hispanics are split on the crack down, 45 percent want the arizona law uphold and 43 percent want it overturned. that doesn't take boo account -- into the intensity question.
>> i don't think there is any question that the president hoped it would be a political help for him and he demagogued the issue against the republicans. there was a belief that the court case was brought to mobilize the hispanics. one is the polls that you mention it is not uniform that all hispanics think that simple enforcement of the immigration law is the problem. the obama care, you need to support us because we will do comprehensive reform. the problem is that he is all talk and no action. it is in the bottom of the priority list. and it is a point when the hispanic voters foal he takes >> and the other side of that would be mitt romney. assume the justices strike down or uphold the law, what does mitt romney do.
he's trying to get back in their good graces. does he want to campaign. see you are wrong, the arizona law is good. that would not be so good for him in attracting the hispanic voters. >> he's dailed back of the rhetoric he was involved in the primary campaign. i think the law will be struck down and it is a powerful symbolism with the latino voters. justices who and the toughest question against the obama position was sewnia -- sonya sotomayer. if her vote goes against the administration, that would help to go a long way toward defusing the question of whether it is one sided. >> you are saying truck down or upheld. >> struck down. >> i know, she was arguing on
behalf of the law. >> no, she was testimonying - telling obama's lawyer. >> obama people want it up hold . >> no, struck down. >> no, what they said. it would be struck down. you are saying that want court is going to rule in favor or against the arizona law. >> against the arizona law. right. >> no. >> in favor of the arizona law. >> that is clear as mud. >> i wish we could take two here . let me and the question. it is suggested, brit that if the court goes against obama on both of these issues. we have a picture of the court to get the egg off of our face. both on obama care and arizona, he could then turn the court itself in an issue and campaign against the conservative court.
there could be openings and put more moderate and people on the court. look at what again, public opinion, look at the polls on 49 percent to 38, voters say the court should overturn obama care. they are in favor of overturning obama care x. and a wider margin, they say that the court should uphold the arizona law. how if it goes against the president on both cases would be on the side of public opinion. >> it would be ineffective. the polls suggest a couple of reasons and the supreme court now enjoys in the public's imagination higher ratings than any other branch of government. it is controversial, but it has positive approval ratings which in washington is remarkable.
i don't think this president comes out well if he is in a pitch battle with one institution in town that people mostly respect particularly after it struck down couple of positions that are central to his outlook. >> we'll take a break hit the reset button when we come back, campaign divets to foreign policy .
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bumper stirk . you saw it with biden and the obama campaign web video that i discussed with the president's counterterrorism advisor. obama campaign bragging about the gutsy decession to take down bin laden and suggest thag mitt romney wouldn't do that. fair game or over the line. >> there is no basis for saying that mitt romney wouldn't have done that. romney was become low saying that an obsession of bin laden shouldn't be all there is. it is a broader strugger and you need to cope that in mind. and i would say this about the successful raid to take out bin laden. i think this president will get as much credit for that as president bush did for the successful execution of the first gulf war which was a huge success and praised at home. huge aprouval rating and a huge
bump out of that. and he was overwhelmed by the perceived economic conditions. and he lost on the economy. i think like that election this will be fought out over issues related to the pocket book and economy and lesser extent the budget this fade background. >> chris: liz, the romney line that the obama campaign is hanging the hat on and whether they are playing fair. obama campaign points to the sentence, and this is from romney back in 2007. it is not worth moving hen and earth and spending billions catching one person. here is the full crest. it is it a diverse group. hamas and muslim brotherhood. it is not worth moving hen and earth spending billions to catch one person. but it is worth fashioning and
executing a strat edgy to prevent global jihad. >> it does. rom no rolled back those comments. he got criticism within his own party when he gave that interview. because he did not fully appreciate it seemed the importance of killing bin laden. and the symbolism of it and the justice aspect of it to many americans. he didn't get that and in the weeks that followed that particular interview. he did try to roll it back. stow it was a maul mistake. and i think it is fair for the obama campaign to bring that quote back. they didn't say in the ad. they didn't say rom no wouldn't have made the call. but you need to and yourself you would have. and that's the question that voters think about. they want a president making that call and not every
president would have. i actually think it is it fair game. mr. #1: kim . >> i think the problem with that romney quote if full is the that the obama administration will make today had they not killed bin laden. >> they did kill him. >> they did. the point is the argument has been there on both sides of the aisle it is beyond just one man. it is important to get the guy. but you stop looking for everyone else because you are focusog osama bin laden: i see the temptation of wanting him to talk about this is a democrat that has good aprouval ratings on foreign policy. one of the questions for him. does he want to get in a big fight mr. romney when they go beyond osama bin laden and other things.
you want to talk about israel and ran and the bomb and syria and his handling of the arab spring. i don't know if that is a place he wants to go. >> chuck? >> he has trong policy and national security ratings and the usual republican advantage is not there this year. he's not only "gotten bin laden" but using the drones aggressively in the greater middle east. a lot of people who supported president obama who thought president bush was out of control, but this guy, has been even taking the position that he will use the drone strike to kill an american citizen abroad. you can't say he hasn't been aggressive on the war on terrorism. >> and chris, back to the biden opening statement that we played it is an effective statement.
bin laden is dead and gm is alive and the argument is it basically, forget the question of what romney would have done. he had a different position on general motors, but the argument would be that this president kill would our big terrorist and kept the u.s. autotrea alive and that seems to be effect itch. >> i don't think there is any doubt about it. and i am sure it will delight the hearts of democrats. and they will put it on the cars and refrigerators. and i have to bound to say however, when it gets down to it. the fact that gm is alive is not a real proxy for the over all condition of the economy as voters perceive it people have a sense of the economy it is it rooted in how they are doing and whether they have a good job at
all people they people in their family are similarly situated and that is a dominant factor and when people cast their votes on the issue. general motors being alive is manage to celebrate and not the thing that will cause a rating in favor of obama on that broader issue of the economy. >> liz. >> i would say in addition to that, we have seen so many times the republicans for not running on his record and running against romney and instead of putting forth what he has done. he's running on the record and they don't like that either. i do think the president was happy to fight it out it is about the economy and the end and that is a trickier for him. >> chris: this is an appropriate week to discuss it with the first anniversary. >> this is the argument they made from the start what they
want the campaign to be about. if he were doing it he would be above the aprouval ratings he is now. >> chris: thank you, panel. check out panel plus where our group picks up with a discussion on the web site at fox news sunday.com. and make sure to follow us on twitter on fox news sunday. up next a special power player of the week. this is bobby. say hello bobby. hello bobby. do you know you could save hundreds on car insurance over the phone, online or at your local geico office? tell us bobby, what would you do with all those savings? hire a better ventriloquist. your lips are moving. geico®. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. in that time there've been some good days.
i caint think of a better time i have had with a power player than the other here is our power player of the week. >> flamingo and snake and elephant and salamander. you name it we treat it >> dr. mur a is chief vetinarian of the national zoo . she her staff of 12 care for 2000 animals from 400 different species. she vaccinated a red panda. and drew blood from say salamander. >> chris: how do you know when they are sick? >> keepers see the animals day in and out and know everything about them. they are the first one who say something is different and call us right away. >> when two of the male gorillas died in 2006 answer they found out it was heart disease. they have grown the great ape
heart roject. lilr's. and that continuously monitor the heart and ekg rhythm. they train them to hold still and they are implanted. in the back. and they trained them to lean back with the edge of the enclosure and they can down load the information and then we read it up here. it is. >> and if you got frustrated running around to different doctors, this is the zoo. >> we have a cardiologist and gi specialist and every specialist has their own 15 minute spot. we joke it is one stop shopping. >> sometimes she reaches out to regular. one of the tree kangaroos had a problem. >> young primate best people are surgions in children's hospital. >> it is not just clinical care.
murray advises zoos and wild life orgs especially on the endanger would species. >> they produce the first ai and cheetah or giant panda. and this reminded murray of when show started 25 years ago. >> first day i remember thinking i have done it i am a student and i touched a cheetah and i can go home now. >> she didn't go home. and been chief vet here since 2001. murray knew by the time she was five what she wanted to do. her grandparents owned a farm with lots of animalings. >> i watched a tv show with my dad. john goodall was on it. and i told my father, thos what i want to do.
>> and she still bring that same sense of wonder to the national wroo. >> i know, you are a baby. >> pretty much every day we feel like we did manage great to help the endangered species here and world wide. that's impact for me. >> dr. murray said they used to put animal to sleep to treat them. but now they trained pandas to get their blood drawn and sealions to at a still for eye drops. have a great week. see you next on fox news sunday. fox news sunday is a ñ
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