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>> i'm trace gallagher for chris wallace. new variant sends markets plummeting, while the world assess the threatss. >> we don't know a lot about the variant, except it is a great concern, seems to spread rapidly. >> stocks and oil plunge as new covid fears rattle markets. impose new travel limits as scientists determine the effectiveness of current vaccines on the new variant. ask dr. frances collins what this means for texas health and ask about the impact on the
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pandemic recovery. >> and we need to fund the government, deadline is december 3rd. >> raising the debt limit and passing a defense spending bill, lawmakers return to lengthy to-do list, discuss with top leader john barraso in wyoming. fox news exclusive and biden administration expected to undue a key immigration promise, ask the sunday panel about the crisis at the southern border. plus, our power player of the week, chris, once again dances with turkeys. >> gobble, gobble, gobble. >> now on fox news sunday. >> hello from fox news, the biden administration ordered new travel restrictions from south
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africa and seven other countries starting tomorrow in response to new coronavirus variant. world health designated omicron and warned against over reaction, but there is new wave of global anxiety. in a moment, we'll ask head of the national institutes of health dr. frances collings what we know so far about the tl thrt of omicron. jacqui heinrich is in nantucket with more on the biden administration's reaction. >> jacqui: the white house is announcing restriction and less urgency imposing them, leaving an entire weekend before they took effect. president biden said that was his health team's advice. >> president shut down travel to
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eight countries to keep omicron from spreading. >> president biden: we talk about whether this is freedom, i think it is patriotic responsibility. >> cdc says it has not tracked omicron in the u.s., top doctor for the white house, dr. fauci says it may already be here. >> i wouldn't be surprised if it is, it will go all over. >> no more travel restrictions are expected yet. >> it will take it a step at a time, we have done what we believe is necessary. >> other countries are ramping up efforts, boris johnson has strict rules after two cases were detected. >> we will require all contacts of those who test positive with suspected case of omicron to self-isolate for 10 days regardless of your vaccination status. >> israel shut down border to
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foreignerss, spooked over a single omicron case. vaccine manufacturers are mobilizing. pfizer says it would take 100 days, moderna is working on an omicron-specific shot. >> jacqui: president biden says no more mandates are ahead at this time. omicron is adding urgency to the efforts and happening against backdrop of sinking poll numbers, dropping markets in congress. trace gallagher. >> trace: jacqui heinrich reporting from congr nantucket,k you. joining us dr. frances collins. good morning, sir. what do we need to know about the omicron variant, is it more contagious? will it lead to severe disease? your thoughts, sir.
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>> those are the right questions, trace. a lot of us want answers and i think i've been on zoom calls and phone calls continuously. we know this is a variant that has a lot of mutations, like 50 of them. more than 30 in the spike protein, the part of the virus that attaches to your human cells that get infected. that is a new record, makes you worry it is sufficiently different virus is may not respond well to protection of the vaccine, but we don't know that. south africa and the south part of africa, this does seem to be spreading rapidly, the nfrps would be it is contagious, we don't know about trying to collect the data as bl que. >> i'm interested, spiked
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protein tend to confuse people, when you say various mutation, what do you mean by that? >> so remember the picture of this virus, it has spikes on the surface made up of protein, the part of the virus that finds receptor on your cell to get inside. there is a lock and key there. this one is faerntly able to do that, it is infeblthfecting people. shape of prot teen is different because of 30 plus mutations and looks different. if you raised immunity previously, will the antibodies stick to this version of the spike protein or will it evade that protection? need to find out, that will take two or three weeks to figure out the answer and that is what we want to know.
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>> quickly, we know you don't know much about the variant,ing when you have doctors in the south africa region, one who spotted this variant, he said symptoms tend to be mild, it is too early to make that declaration? >> i continuing is too early, trace, initial cases are young people with mild infections, we need more data before we can say this is not severe version of the virus. should find out in the next couple weeks. >> trace: the president put a travel ban on eighth south african countries, put those on the screen. vaccination rates of those countries go up to 27% in lasutu, and 3.2 in malawi, which is low. dr. emmanuel said restricting travel will slow, it is coming, not stop it from coming, the
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fact it is come suggest inevitable, the environment it comes may not be inevitable, we can alter the environment and if it is just a case of trying to slow it down, dr. collin, why not put in place more travel bans? people in south africa, government officials feel they are being singled out and feel this is discriminatory against them. >> well, i think it is a difficult decision, trace, this is just best advice of public health experts. u.k. and e.u. are doing the same. everybody who is a foreign traveller coming to the u.s. has to have a test, three days in advance if you are vaccinated, one day in advance if you are unvaccinated. given the current circumstance, this is the most serious variant we have seen in several months, it made sense at least for
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temporary measure, we will not say this is for a long had time, to block travel from countries where we know omicron is spreading. >> trace: we talked about vaccination rates in south african countries. i want to put up rates from this country, doctor. 59.1% fully vaccinated. 19.1% of boosters. the question is, will the vaccines need to be modified for omicron? if they do need to be modified, why would people get the booster tomorrow if they might need a new one in two months? >> trace, for americans listening, this is action you can take, if you are not vaccinated yet or haven't gotten a booster, it is clear in the previous examples of variants, the vaccine have worked to
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provide protection and boosters provide strong protection against delta. we expect most likely current vaccines will be sufficient to provide protection and especially the boosters will give that additional layer of protection, there is something about the booster that causes your immune system to expand capacity against different spike proteins, even ones it hasn't seen before. please, americans, if you are waiting, this is a great time to sign up and get your booster. omicron is one reason to do this. if we need a new vaccine, pfizer and moderna are in the process of designing that, that will be at least three months, if we have to do it. we hope we don't have to do that. >> trace: for now, the time being, the vaccines are working just fine. the four states and vaccination
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rates, that gives an idea where we're going. >> mitch: michigan, 54%, maine, same thing, high vaccination rate, high new cases, new york 28, 62, florida 61% vaccination rate, down in cases. only a couple months ago, media was giving florida a hard time saying desantis' policies were all wrong. statess like florida have no mandates and are doing quite well sglchlts , it comes down t who is getting the disease or who is in the hospital and sick enough to die. getting a mild cases happens as breakthrews from the vaccinated folks, boosters prevent that. talk about who is in the hospital and who is dying, those
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are unvaccinated people and there are lots of those. if there is a lesson here, come on, america, we have missed chance to be higher level of vaccination that would put us in stronger position. misinformation we have heard, we have not done what we should have to protect ourselves. if omicron is one more wake-up call, america, wake up. the vaccines are safe and effective and people have been using them for a year, $200 million people plus have gotten injected, this is something you want for your community. >> trace: you talk about antiviral pills merck and pfizer, some say these pills are game-changers. we are told they are effective, are you afraid it will lessen people's need or hurry to get
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the vaccine? >> it does worry me, trace, it would not be a rationale conclusion, these are pills you take if you are shown to be infected. do you want to wear your seat belt or count on the memory room? i think the seat belt is a better deal. vaccines are your seats belt, use them. if you get sick, it will be great to have antivirals, i am tickles to see them emerging. the merc drug and the pfizer drug are coming up. prevention is better than treatment. >> trace: thank you, sir, we appreciate it. >> glad to be with you, trace. >> trace: up next, shoppers are back in the stores as new virus worries rise, we'll discuss how the new variant could complicate the u.s. recovery with leading
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>> trace: wall street fears over coronavirus overshadowed black friday headlines issue the dow plunging hundreds points, another setback for president biden who appointed federal reserve chair for a second turn. joining us is mohamed el-erian, who led pemko, and is chief advisor. i want to put the numbers on the board from friday. dow down 2.5%, energy sector down 4%, more than 4%, the oil down 13%, what do you make of this? is the market uncertainty because every time there is a travel ban put in place we tend to realize that soon to follow might be more lockdowns, is that
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what is happening he? >> mohamed: yes, marketplace is worried about two things, one, another variant of covid will hit them hard, we travel less, go to restaurants less and may have additional restrictions imposed, this is issue number one. issue number two, mal cause mor chain disrupt ydisruption. lower growth, high inflation, stag-flation is what the market is worried about. >> trace: i want to touch on the fact recent job numbers were encoura encouraging, still too many jobs, not enough people to fill the jobs. when you think about politics coming back, senators back in tomorrow, house back in tuesday, talking about social spending, is this a time in your
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estimation, doctor, that we should be injecting trillions of dollars into the economy, dealing with inflation? >> mohamed: this is a controversial issue, it has a good side and a bad side. good side, it helps on the labor market, the problem is not we have loss of employment, we have too many people outside the labor market, they need to be back in. the bill tries to increase labor force interpretation, it helps on the supply side. the issue people have, that is great, what about demand side? you want to put more dollars in economy that is running hot?u b two things, you want to go ahead and help the supply side and federal reserve has to do more to compensate on the demand side. >> trace: you have been critical of the fed and the way they handled inflation in your
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writings, the president kept status quo and nominated jay pow powell. the inflation threat risks making things worse by deanchoring inflational expectation due to loose monetary policy, record easy financial conditions according to weekly goldman sachs and lack of adequate forward policy guidance. do you think it was time for a change at the fed? >> mohamed: it is time for a change in policy at the fed and i was of the view this may be easier with someone who hasn't repeated over and over again that inflation is transitory, don't worry, it is going away. inflation is not transitory and it is important for the fed to realize this, worst thing that
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can happen, in addition to supply disruption, in addition to labor shortages, they destabilize our expectation and we change behavior faster. companies increase prices faster, wage earners insist on higher wages, even more and next thing you know, you get cycle of inflation, that is what we need to avoid. >> trace: when you say not transitory, how long do you think it drags on? when it is permanent? when you give somebody a raise, not like that will go back in a year, not like you will sell the sandwich for $11.50 six months down the road. when you see cost go up, how long before we might see pressure ease off those inflationary gages? >> mohamed: we will see the effects you talk about, people asking for higher wages in order to maintain purchasing power,
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companies raising prices in order to maintain margins and it will go on well into next year and then it will ease, but ease for the wrong reason. what i'm worried about, it will ease because the fed will have to hit the brakes. trace, we haven't got single experience in which the fed been led to policy challenge and has not caused recession, rather than hit the brakes hard next year, easier to ease your foot off the accelerator starting now. >> trace: talking about gauge, good gauge, we haven't seen numbers yet, probably by tuesday, black friday was busy, but not black friday busy. is it because we're holding back or we were told to shop because of supply chain crisis, we were told to shop early and we did, what do you make of what you're seeing so far?
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>> mohamed: i think the latter has a lot to do with it, people were worried about supply in the last two months and saw big jump in retail sales that came earlier than people expected, people accelerated purchases, i don't think we have issue with demand, i think incomes are strong, retail sales are strong, companies have lots of money, the problem is supply side. unless we fix supply side, it will contaminate the demand side. it is important to focus on issues, supply disruption and inflation. >> trace: inflation, biggest indicator is gas prices. it is $5.60. you have president tapping oil reserve, adding barrels of oil to the market, other hand, he wants to make it are more expensive to drill for oil on federal property, how do you
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square the two, doctor? >> mohamed: we are in this funny period, we have transition issues, moving away from fossil fuel, coal, oil and moving somewhere else that hasn't been built up yet. the middle part gets enormous pressure, that is what you are seeing with gas prices, record gas prices because of this transition. it will go away, in the meantime, administration is trying to lessen it by releasing supply and asking other countries to do the same and that is what we saw last week, it will have marginal impact, very important signalling, >> signals, we have 45 seconds left, what is biggest take away from the economy, biggest warning you have? >> mohamed: take inflation seriously because it can by
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itself derail our economic recovery. >> trace: doctor, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. >> mohamed: thank you. >> trace: up next, news of the new variant complicate packed agenda as lawmakers return to capitol hill, we'll discuss the third ranking senate republican when we come back.
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>> trace: new covid variant is another hurdle in a busy time in washington, the senate set to return tomorrow, the house on tuesday. lawmakers have just a few days to avert government shutdown and two weeks to raise the limit on borrowing or default for the first time in the nation's history democrats face a deadlooin for build back better plan with no republican support, the number three republican in the senate john barrasso, we have a lot of politics to talk about, you are going back to work tomorrow, house comes back on tuesday. quickly, a lot of breaking newss on the omicron variant. you're a medical doctor, as well, give us your take, are you concerned about the new variant coming possibly, maybe already here in the united states? >> john: you know, as a doctor, i am pro-vaccine and
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anti-mandate. vaccines work. we have a new variant, there will continue to be new variants in the future. medicines are better now than they have been. i think the president was wrong with his mandate, it was a monumental overreach and it's hardened people against the vaccine and the president divided the country because of the mandate. you have governors saying two shots are not enough, you have to have three. the thing that is interesting about this, last guest talked about inflation, 10 million job openings and the president wants to fire people going to work everyday since the pandemic started, people who may not want to get the vaccine. police officers, nurses, border patrol. that is one part. the other is joe biden ran for office hiding in his basement
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saying he could protect america from covid. he didn't. he can't. more people died under president biden than did in all of 2020. >> trace: we'll talk about that with the panel. a lot going on this week on the hill. senator, what is the status of that, where is it going? is it time to inject trillions back into the economy? >> john: no, we have record inflation right now. i view this as a back-breaking bill for the country with expenses, spending, adding to debt, inflation, taxes that are going to hit the american people. for joe biden to say spend more on top of inflation, this is alice in wonderland, he is the mad hadder. he's saying cost will be zero, zero, zero and budget analysts
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say there will be much added to the debt. taxes will go up. he said, if you make over $400,000 a year, that is not what experts say, they say one out of three will pay more in taxes. on all the issues and inflation across the board people look at persistent inflation. that is the thing that will hurt our economy the most. >> trace: talk about the build back better thing, they are against raising debt limit, mitch mcconnell said it will enable democratic spending. "wall street journal" says vote to raise debt limit doesn't authorize new spending, allows treasury to raise money to pay for expense the government authorized to pay for things authorized and important to point out in your state alone, this is paying for things like 30,000 people getting snap
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benefits, food benefits, 33,000 eligible for free or reduced school lunches, benefits from this to your state senator. why are you against it? >> in my state, i was a member of the state senate, our institution demands we balance budget every year and live within our means like families need to do and the federal government ought to do the same thing. this is all about democratic spending, 100% on them. go you get rid of the gimmicks of accounting, this bill the democrats are proposing is $4 trillion in additional spending, not a single republican who will vote for the bill or to raise the debt ceiling, this is on democrats. >> trace: you are ranking member of the energy committee, i want to put this up, food, gas, electricity prices. we've seen this and talked with
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dr. el-erian. gas is up, electricity 6.5%, and we're not at the coldest part of the winter, it will get bad for people, expensive. the president is putting 50 million barrels of oil from the reserve back on the market, may hit mid-december. on the other hand, the president is making it more expensive to drill on federal land, how do you square the two? >> john: it cant be squared, the president is not able to do this. today is the busiest travel day in america, people hit the road, gas prices are hitting the roof. day one in the white house, president drew a target on the back of american energy and pulled the trigger. with petroleum reserve, putting a bandaid on the bullet hole. the reserve is there for emergencies, national
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emergencies, war, not to cover over bad policies. the amount he's releasing is equal to what we use in just 2-1/2 days. and today, in america, we're using more oil from russia, from vladamir putin's russia than from alaska. this is a jackpot for vladamir putin. we have this oil in the ground, the president and environmental movement will not let us use american oil, so president biden going hat in hand to opec and russia saying, please produce more oil so we can buy from you. this is a disaster, major policy mistake, we need to be using american energy. >> trace: you get to work on capitol hill this week, sir, what is remedy from the republicans? what is remedy? if the president leads here, if his moves are not the elixir,
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what do we do to get energy and gas prices down and stabilize before we move into winter? >> john: yes. we use american energy, we stop the bans this administration has on energy, senator manchin, ranking member, chairman of the energy committee said let's get keystone pipeline going. we have resources here, we are much stronger as a nation, if we're selling energy to our frnds than if we have to buy it from our enemies. i just got back from the persian gulf, spend thanksgiving there with wyoming troops and talking to military leaders, after what happened in afghanistan, our enemies are more aggressive and to give additional money to vladamir putin is really in the long-term detriment of the united states. >> trace: you talk about the persian gulf, what are they saying about the american energy
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policy? the president gone to opec to get more oil on the market, what are they saying? they have been hesitant to do that, what is the word over there? belief the united states should be doing more to help itself? >> john: we ought to be doing more to help ourselves, it is incumbent upon us to do that. there are ways we can protect the environment without punishing the economy, i don't know democrats understand that major concept, what i saw in the persian gulf was more aggressive iran. seeing it with communist china, seeing with vladamir putin and north korea, talk about the things we haven't done in congress, national defense authorization act should have been passed months ago, been on the back burner for joe biden and schumer, never want to send our men and women into a fair
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fight, we want them to have strength, project equipment, have manpower, firepower they need and this administration is wrong on energy and have been weak, this president has been weak on national defense. when he came into office, his first budget super-sized government on everything, except two areas we didn't keep up with inflation uone was defense, the other homeland security, our nation deserves better. >> trace: you make a good point because you have russian troops amassing at the ukrainian border, china with threatening language toward taiwan, and the window is narrowing to get this done. it has been passed 60 years in a row, the window is narrowing, how do you get this done quickly? >> john: you're right, the window is narrowing because we have that, we have the debt
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ceiling and joe biden and chuck schumer want to pass massive tax and spending bill by christmas. we have an entire republican conference who wants to do everything we can to defeat it. the best christmas present for americans, block increased taxes and block bills that causes more inflation and the more people know what is in the bill, the worse it becomes, people don't like many thicks in this bill, which will raise taxes and increase inflation. >> trace: senator john barrasso, dr. john barrasso, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. >> john: thank you, trace. >> trace: up next, we'll bring in our sunday fwr group to disc new covid developments and impact on the health of the public and the economy. ♪ my work has been viewed by 100 million people.
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>> what is your response? >> expect it. always do when covid rises. >> it is worry you at all? >> not at all, why would it? >> trace: president biden responding to questions about the massive market sell-off in response to detection of a new covid variant. it is time for our sunday group, karl rove, jacky and political analyst juan williams. karl, you heard the president say he's not concerned about what happened to the market on friday, dropped 2.5%, oil down
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and energy prices down across the board, do you buy that he is not concerned about what is happening with the omicron variant to the economy >> sure, they are concerned and they ought to be. there is a new challenge, there are variables we don't understand and it will have economic impact, we've had more people die this year than we had die of covid last year. the administration suggested it would put all this in the rearview mirror by july 4. it is clearly not able to do that, this is the problem with a pandemic, variables and unknowns, it is hard for policy makers to get their hands around it? >> trace: we have vaccines and therapies, covid won't go away. the president made this comment
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when he was candidate boo biden about president trump at the time. watch this and i'll get your thought. >> president biden: dead, anyone responsible for that many deaths should not remain president of the united states of america. >> trace: there are 350,000 deaths, juan, the president ran on covid and it appears to be undermining him. your thoughts. >> i don't think that is what the poll numbers show. his strength is handling of covid and we see people unvaccinated are getting and dying from this terrible disease, when you think about this, though, there is not a reason for us to freak out, what is the president was saying in terms of reaction to economic numbers on friday, we have the basic tools to manage this. we know about a vaccine. we have a vaccine and have to see if it has to be adapted to
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the new virus variant, i should say, we know about masks and social distancing. we have the basic tools in place and now we are trying to limit the spread with this travel ban. i think he has in mind the idea that we can deal with this, the goal being, i think others have said this, as we deal with this as a medical issue, we keep the economy strong. so far, right now, the economic numbers have been good. if friday is a blip, as we hope it might be, it would be because we are showing strong leadership on covid. >> trace: yeah, juan brings up numbers, jackie, put them on the screen. disapproving 52% and been there for a while. juan makes a good point, numbers on the border and afghanistan were in the tank, numbers on
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covid were pretty good and can ill afford to lose his response on covid and with a new variant coming in and his handling and not being concerned about the economy issue might end up hurting him or will it not, jackie? >> we haven't seen the admin stra stragsz /* /* 00 administrations full response on this. they will share the formula with the rest of the world going forward and tweak the approach they have taken to the global pandemic so far. we have seen lots of criticism from the who previously about richer countries hoarding vaccinations throughout the course of 2021 and seen scientists warn the biden administration and other economies and governments that so long as there is a big vaccination gap between
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developed countries and less developed countries, pandemic will remain a problem throughout the world, including countries, vaccination rates are higher. who called the hoarding and stockpiling of vaccines as immoral and self-defeating, but ceo real world repercussions when it comes to our economy. that is what the biden administration will facus on ongoing forward. >> trace: karl, the idea of travel ban coming in south african countries, shouldn't -- and critics saying, we need vaccines, we don't need travel bans, we need help from the united states. what do you make of the travel ban considering you go back to when president trump initiated that travel ban and people were saying president biden intimated it was xenophobic, of course the president pushed back on that,
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what do you think of the ban, karl? >> it is wise, but president biden did politicize this in the campaign. he didn't intimate it was hysteria, xenophobia and fearmongering, those were his exact words and kamala harris said if donald trump tells me to take something, i wont take it, attacking the idea of the vaccine. politicization of the issue last year is an overhang. you're right, his numbers are so-so on covid, but they used to be pretty darn good. they have declined and i think they made mistake of politicizing it last year and there is political reaction to much of what he does this year. it was right to have the travel ban, it may be temporary as dr. collins suggested, it was important to do 6789 >> trace: juan, president biden being forced to enfers remain in mexico policy by the courts.
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dhs said this about secretary mayorkis. mpp due to migratory flows, unjustifiable human cost on migrants exposed to harm while waiting in mexico, he's saying, yes, remain in mexico policy worked, but we don't like it, juan. >> picking up on what everyone is saying here, it is important to note, the new policy that will be reinstated this week has to be by the mexican government and covid protection for anyone coming in under new rules, it is not affirmation of what happened in the previous administration with regard to separating families, mal-treatment of children that is now in the courts. i think what we're seeing is the biden administration saying we are looking for strategies that
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work and don't really have one at the moment and it calls to mind, no matter if you are president bush, president obama, president trump and now president biden, you get no help from the congress, trace, comes down to president having to come up with executive action policy that are controversial and temporary. we need congress involved and pass effective immigration legislation with regard to security on the border, legal immigration and the dreamers. >> trace: yeah, and you look down the road six months, three months, if this policy, remain in mexico works and we've seen it has and secretary mayorkis acknowledged it has, will biden administration take credit? if the border, if encounters slow because of remain in mexico policy, do you foresee the biden administration saying kamala harris is doing a fantastic job? >> i'm not sure i can project
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whether or not the biden administration will take credit, but at the moment, joe biden will have to explain why he's going back on his campaign promises to undue the hard-line immigration policies we saw with the trump administration, this is something he campaigned on and now you have seen this administration backtracking and saying they want this to happen. i have to note our reporting showing it is not likely to imminently upon ha, the mexican government said there are various congresss you need to see from the government before the policy can be implimited, providing legal aid to migrants seeking asylum in the u.s., along with covid protection we've seen the u.s. government vow to implement, which includes provides vaccinations for the immigrants waiting for hearings. >> trace: it cannot be mandated, the supreme court said that and
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mexico is warming up to the idea of reinvigerating remain in mexico policy and getting the people away. thank you all for coming on, we are very much appreciate it. >> thank you. >> good to be with you, trace 6789 >> trace: we will see you next sunday. up next, our power player of the week, chris once again dances with the turkeys. ok, let's talk about those changes to your financial plan. bill, mary? hey... it's our former broker carl. carl, say hi to nina, our schwab financial consultant. hm... i know how difficult these calls can be. not with schwab. nina made it easier to set up our financial plan. we can check in on it anytime. it changes when our goals change. planning can't be that easy. actually, it can be, carl. look forward to planning with schwab. schwab! ♪ walmart's deals for days isn't over yet.
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>> trace: holiday riddle we ask every thanksgiving. who founded a huge tech company, created successful cosmetic business and raises turkeys like the native americans did? here is chris wallace with our power player of the week. >> farm with the land, farm with the seasons. know your soil, your landfall, weather and animals. >> sandy lerner is talking about raising livestock and vegetables without chemicals that are so common in what she calls factory farming. days before thanksgiving, she took me out to see and yes, to dance with her 1300 turkeys, heritage breeds that trace back to the indians. >> raise your arms, gobble, gobble, gobble. gobble, gobble, gobble.
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>> chris: lerner is mistress of the farm in upperville, virginia. interesting as her business is how she got here. she grew up on a farm in california, making enough from raising cattle to send herself to college. >> what i learned was to love work. i'm really happiest when engaged and working and thinking and striving. >> chris: she got into computers. in 1984, she and her then husband started cisco systems that found way to link networks of computers, network of the internet. six years later, venture capitalists were running the company. >> if you don't have employment contract, you got fired by the same guy who fired steve jobs. [laughter] >> chris: lerner had a second act, she started urban decay,
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edgy colors for women like her. in 1996, she brought asher farm. >> it historically people who had disposable income, look at george washington or thomas jefferson. >> pretty is as pretty does. >> chris: she raises war horses that go back centuries, scott highland cattle and turkeys, she says taste better because of lives they lead. >> chris: how much does a turkey cost compared to what i get in the grocery store? >> our turkeys are expensive, between about $160 to $200. >> chris: there are questions how to make this kind of farming profitable. lerner is determined to run a sound business, it is not just about the bottom line, there is a mansion on the farm. >> chris: what is it like living there? >> i don't know, i live in a
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little log cabin and i love it. >> chris: do you think you are eccentric? >> i am now that i'm rich, i used to just be -- >> chris: she wants to see her values live on. >> i'm a cow girl, can tell what cows are thinking, my success as farmer, what george washington was, he wanted to be a really good farmer. i've become a good farmer. >> chris: she raised 300 turkeys, selling all but 25, which they donated to frontline workers. >> trace: chris will be back next week. that is next fox news sunday. i'm trace gallagher, have a great thanksgiving week. covid vd
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around the world. the new confirmed cases that are alarming health officials globally also ahead. the concern is that when you have so many mutations that can have an impact on how the virus behaves. in less than 24 hours. the u. s will join other countries to restrict travel for more than half a dozen countries because of the new omicron strain. the reason some say it's not the answer, plus gas prices continue to soar. but president biden thinks his new effort will bring down the cost of oil. why not? everyone is convinced coming up. from ktvu. fox two news. this is mornings onto. welcome to ktvu mornings onto it is sunday november 28th. i'm amanda
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