tv Earth Focus LINKTV February 16, 2020 3:30pm-4:01pm PST
announcer: on this episode of "earth focus," lessons learned durg g hurrane e kaina arar ing put to the test alonthe coast of losisiana. meme prect n newrleansnsill submerd d by te enendf thisis cetutury. e reregi' survival depen on its ility todapt to clite chang if sucecessfu lououisna mayay provi a a blurintnt f otherer ound theorld. [film advae clicki]]
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happening. thankouou forodayay's ssrise. aid, you wa a indianame? yes. younaname ilittttleox. the displacenent rely, , rely made chchangen ouour lture.e. now w weind d ofive-- ha hhaha!--le there e nono indians, ok? dre: the ly way tsese coastal commitities ll survive into thlalater st century itoto proct o ourlves from thgugulf omexixicoi reale e in 3 yeaearsthis w wl probablbebe allpen n war. i mean,hehe seaill l ta us alal over. at i'mm tryg toto dwith the lee system, what'm trtryintoto do,s buy ouelveves o or 3 neration
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to go live sowhwhere se, , bu in doing sowwe dlosse at cultul l fabr, soso wdon't really know w we camoveve pelele colctivivelas a g gup chear and mo e efficntlyly than individuals. comardle: there's very littleosositivin t theorm ofof resettlentnt of oplele. u know, gerernmen jusust n't it well. we presteted a different model, community-design,, comnnity-riven. thiinkhat was, d d look on n th and said, "le's t i it. t'try aa pilot proamam, seif we ca figure ouhow w too ththisn a smaller scalsoso we n chchan itoror--" have soanyy coununitiein t the.s. anan aboad th's cingng tse samam clmamate iues, and i tnknk th's y so m my peoplarare wahingng, causee it's le,e, "okcan n weeallyy gett ts right?becacauswe know hoimimportt itit ifor thth future ofhehe wor to o geit right.
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that isis is histstorally tril l commity,y, a we alal unrsrstandhat t polationon ave left this ptiticula location ov a a perd ofof te, and tho folks w are succesulul in is p proct will have o oppornityty t reconititute t the n locationbubut ouprimimarset of befificiars arare e peopop livi o on thislalandwe wanan to pick up the pplple th arere ving inhis direscenario nd ensurthat they live mewherehat is se now an ntnto thfufuture comarlllle: iope e th the tri w wouldwn t theand, a a acuauallywe e st of l le a mixed nenershi youou kw, thehe llks wld h havfull r rhts to eir r la, bubut the s se tie,e, if ey were go o an want tmomove o of f itit wouou rert back t the tbe s so at way, that land wi b be foverr sacred f t the tbe t to ve. sanders:e'veot to wa a pretty finliline bwhicich 'r dedevelongng somhing t tt makeke sen f for ts cocommity bubu also coulde e applable t ta uch wider array c commnities that y y be ia simila situion. we mply do't he
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man: we have tonight yascha mounk, the author of "the people vs. democracy." let me tell you a little bit about it. he's a lecturer on government at harvard university and a senior fellow at new america. he's a columnist at slate and a host of the "good fight" podcast. he's a leading expert in the rise of populism and the crisis of liberal democracy. so, that's yascha, and i think the club will recognize our moderator tonight, francis fukuyama, who has been here many y times before. he's currently a senior fellow at stanford's freeman spogli institute for international studies and his new book on identity, his "identity politics" will be coming out in september. so, thank you very much, francis. thank you very much. ok, thank you.