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berlin. tonight, no change of plan. president joe biden sticking with the afghanistan departure deadline. today, the taliban said an extension would be unacceptable. a g-7 emergency meeting failed to agree on a move to extend the relief -- the airlift to kabul. protest on the streets of delhi. afghan refugees say the taliban
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takeover makes a return to their homeland impossible. our correspondent will have the latest and legendary rolling stones drummer charlie watts has died after nearly 60 years with the band. tributes now streaming in to celebrate the life of a rock icon. ♪ i'm brent goff. to our viewers on pbs and all of you around the world, welcome. raking developments tonight in the race to leave kabul. the white house has announced the u.s. will stick to the august 31 deadline for the departure of all american troops from afghanistan. eaters from the g-7 countries met virtually today. some nations wanted the u.s. to extend the deadline to allow more time for evacuations .
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the u.n. top human rights official says she has credible reports the taliban are executing civilians and respect for women's rights is a fundamental redline for the unit nations. -- the united nations. >> these sisters are preparing to leave kabul airport on a flight to the u.k. they are traveling with their father, an interpreter who fears retribution from the taliban. rightfully so says the u.n. >> we have also received credible reports of serious violation of international human law and international rights abuses taking place in many areas under taliban control. could there has been mounting criticism over the chaotic evacuation to as foreign powers scramble to get helpers outcome of the taliban appear to be worried about their brain drain of well-qualified afghans from the country.
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>> whi leaving afghanistan, the u.s. still wants to inflict damage and loss on this nation. every day, they encourage people by telling people they will transfer them to the u.s. and other countries and have readied their planes. >> the taliban also said female government employees should not go to work but should stay-at-home for their own safety. brent: with a week left until nato forces leave afghanistan completely, time is running out to complete the evacuation of foreign citizens as well as afghans fleeing taliban role. g-7 leaders spoke shortly after their summit about tuesday's decisions. >> the evacuations are being carried out in a broad cooperation. i want to stress this. the u.s. is leading them. without the u.s., other nations
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could not continue the evacuations. we need to recognize that. just as we want to carry out the evacuations, we also want to be united as we carry out the rest of our actions in afghanistan. >> the number one condition we are setting as g7 is they have got to guarantee, write the way through august the 31st and beyond, a safe passage, safe passage for those who want to come out. some of them will say they don't accept that and some i hope we'll see the sense of that because the g-7 has considerable leverage, economic, diplomatic and political. >> recall on the new afghan authorities to allow free passage to all citizens who wish to get to the airport.
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we have also raised this issue with our american friends and partners on two particular aspects. first, the need to secure the airport as long as necessary to complete the operations. and second, a fair and equitable access to the airport for all nationals entitled to evacuate. brent: we want to bring in our international editor. good evening to you. the u.s. president not extending the deadline despite pleas from some of his allies. what do we know about why he is sticking to this deadline of august the 31st? >> the reporting is he is following his military advice that it would simply be too dangerous for u.s. troops to stay on beyond the august 31 date. this is going to be drawn on discussions with the taliban, that are ongoing in private between the u.s. and taliban and others as well. we have seen the public comments
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of the taliban saying they are adamantly sticking to this line, the 31st of august is the date where this all has to end. sources we have been talking to have been pointing out the situation at the airport in afghanistan is precarious enough as it is. if you had a situation where the u.s. and western powers were trying to use the airport without the taliban's consent, if there were some kind of military intervention, they could potentially be carnage. the taliban hold all the cards in this situation and the access to the airport. it is striking what a weak position the u.s. has found itself in. brent: biden is sticking to this withdrawal deadline. what is that going to mean for these evacuation efforts that are still ongoing? there is only a week left. >> there is little time. there is not even a week because that is the deadline for getting troops out. evacuations would probably have
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to finish before then. there is race against time to get as many people out as soon as possible. leaders are starting to talk about what happens beyond august 31, hoping for instance the airport could be used in civilian way that depends on the consent of the taliban and the west are in a week -- a weak negotiating position. brent: what does this mean for transatlantic relations? >> there is some frustration on this side of the atlantic that things have been rushed more than they had to be. that leaders have been put in very political uncomfortable positions in their own countries. they are beginning to see a different side of jode biden. this is the joe biden who was saying america is back. this was his slogan throughout the year. that is looking somewhat hollow just to the afghans but also to nato allies. it is also confronting the europeans with the truth that
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they are simply not strong enough and not note -- and not motivated enough to keep a mission like this going, to keep security in afghanistan going without the u.s. despite the fact europe has a much greater stake in the stability of afghanistan. think of the geographical elective proximity they are dealing with. there is a lot of soul-searching going on. we are just at the beginning of this process. i think there is going to be introspection within nato about what the alliance is for, what it can do going forward. brent: dw's international editor richard walker. the nato and alliance oversaw the two decade intervention in afghanistan. it involved more than 30 countries. it was forced to end its mission when the u.s. announced plans to pull troops out of the country. many are wondering how the chaotic draw will impact the nato alliance moving forward. >> a two decade investment of
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lives, money, trust and solidarity. now eclipsed i chaos, confusion and painful questions starting with whiskey, tango, foxtrot. lloyd robertson says he was proud to invoke article five to support washington after 9/11, the only time it has been used. now robertson blessed the fl withdrawal, also compelled by the u.s. >> i feel ashamed because that solidarity seems to have gone. principle of we all go in together and we all come out together seems to have been completely lost and we have betrayed that solidarity. >> foreign ministers meeting in an emergency session last week focused first on the evacuation crisis but also test jens stoltenberg with launching a review into what happened in afghanistan and what consequences it might have for
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nato. looking at these pictures in kabul, you feel nato's credibility and strength is what it wants was or do you feel also this has been damaged by the way this has ended? >> the main problem is the suffering of the afghan people. this is difficult for nato. that is the reason why we need to be honest and be clear eyed and also ask hard questions about what are the lessons learned. >> stoltenberg primarily blames the afghan government and armed forces for failing to repel the -- the telephone advance. others say there is plenty of responsibility to go alone starting with the west's intentions to change afghanistan. neither the united needs designated states nor nato afghanistan well enough when we were setting these goals. things like the geography, the demographics, the history, the
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economy of afghanistan. coco they retired -- >> doug lute is a retired u.s. general as well as an ambassador to nato. he says one big mistake the military alliance made ironically was its focus on the military fight. >> afghanistan collapsed, our government and afghanistan collapsed not becausef military failu where w could put all this focus but because of politics. we over militarized our approach to afghanistan. two others will be drawing conclusions from nato's actions as well. afghan women who made massive gains in equality with the support of the international community and the taliban which appears to feel entitled to but we have the population back into burqas and constant fear. women's rights activist wonder how nato will assess this part of its rord in afghanistan. >> i don't know how i would look women in the eye and say we made a promise and say we would
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protect you. we will be here for you. be bold. be courageous. now you became that, we left you in the mouth of the taliban, the hands of the taliban. now they will treat you as they like and we don't care about you anymore. >> she no longer spends her days helping afghan women get jobs but pleading with nato governments to help them escape. brent: that was teri schultz reporting. we spoke to germany's foreign ambassador to the united states and the current chairman of the munich security conference. these are his conclusions from nato's chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan. >> let's be honest. in discussing this among western allies, the afghanistan operation for the last 20 years was at its core a u.s.
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operation. european allies including my own country were doing their best to help out, to assist, to partner in this. we let practically almost everything you would need to conduct an autonomous, non-american operation. we were dependent and we knew it and we did anyway. at this moment, let's not complain we are totally dependent on the united states. that was the situation for the last 20 years. i think there is an important lesson to be drawn for the longer term, for the european union, which is instead of dreaming dreams about european strategic autonomy, let's talk about real stuff. let's prop up our own defense capabilities, our own capabilities to conduct these types of missions with some degree of autonomy in the future.
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that is what needs to be done rather than complaining about american behavior. brent: that was wolfgang talking with us earlier. as many afghans in kabul attempt to leave, those who have fled face difficulties in various host countries. india is home to thousands of afghans from earlier waves of migration to some say complex might -- complex bureaucracy and the lack of support are barriers to registering as refugees. her bureau chief has more. >> -- our bureau chief has more. >> i'm standing in front of a protest in delhi. this is just oside the offices of the united nations high commissioner for refugees. women are a the forefront of this protest. they are demanding their rights as refugees be recognized.
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>> they are not having a future in afghanistan. afghanistan does not give to the future. >> my son is stuck in afghanistan. he is moving from place to place to stay safe. what about my children here? what will happen to us? what have we done to deserve this? >> many have been living here for the last many years. they have family stuck in afghanistan. they want their family members to stay in safety but they are really worried the taliban is there. >> i spoke to various refugees here. they're not allowed to work. they are not allowed to open businesses. their lives are in a limbo. >> more than 21,000 leaving- living in india since 15 years
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without any facility, any right of human rights. we have three demands. w the first i -- t first is fall afghans. the second is support from embassies. third, we need the support or protection from the indian government. thinking about the future of our children. >> we want future. >> in this protest, there are little children. they are the future of afghanistan. they are saying we want a future. the demand from people at this demonstration is their right as refugees must be mac -- must be recognized otherwise they have no future in this country or elsewhere. brent: i am joined by commissioner of afghanistan's civil service. she fled the country just last
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week and she is joining us tonight from poland. it is good to have you on the program. you made it to europe. we know many other afghans are not able to get that far. tell us what awaits those who managed to leave afghanistan. >> thank you for having me. this is a challenging journey for anybody who is deciding to leave afghanistan. ifhey did not leave afghanistan yet, they have to go through a very hard hours to get to the airport. i spent 12 hours on the street between the taliban and the british military to get to the gate. it was extremely hard. when you are getting in the airport if you are lucky enough, you will be moved to the airplane and go quickly. if you are not lucky enough, you have families, children waiting
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at the airport. this is a journey i don't think i would ever forget in my lifetime. there are other examples. with other friends and family memories who left similar to me from afghanistan. brent: we understand the taliban is blocking access to the airport for afghan citizens. what options then do afghans have? they contract across the border with pakistan, iran, but are they wanted in those countries? >> they do not. i talked to a friend. enter to pakistan yesterday. people who went across the board today from kabul were detained on the border to enter pakistan. they closed. you cannot cross the border either in pakistan or iran.
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i am worried to say that i don't thin any orders are open even if you have visas. i have family members who have visas to go to india but there is not any commercial flights for them to go to india. i am scared all borders will be closed. brent: let me ask you about this notion of a brain drain in afghanistan. people such as yourself with an education with skills, if they are leaving the country, what will the taliban have to tap into if it wants to effectively govern the country moving forward? >> if i was to see the taliban, i am asking the same question. do they have the capacity to vern that country? do they know what good government means? if they do, why are they reliant on educated people? first of all, they are rejecting
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the 20 years of gain that includes the educated people, that includes the activists, that includes the academics exist. who know how to govern. there were some gaps in the past. that would be my question of whether or not they would have the capacity to run good governance and provide services to the people of afghanistan. if they are calling people to return back to afghanistan, they don't even allow my colleagues to work in the civil service. we do have 30% of women, almost 30% to work in the civil service. they are not allowed to go to their offices. it is not guaranteed to return and go and work with the government. the laws they implement that would limit, to actually obey the rules. there is not any guarantee.
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i don't think anybody will trust the taliban to return to afghanistan. brent: we can definitely hear the concern in your voice and we know there are countless other women in afghanistan who have the same concerns tonight. we appreciate your time and your insights. thank you. charlie wants, the drummer of the rolling stones, has died. the 80-year-old visit -- the 80-year-old musician had recently undergone a medical procedure and he missed the beginning of the and forthcoming tour. he played with the band from 1963 to the president -- to the present. he drummed on all of the records. he had a love for jazz, a style that informed his relaxed yet dependable beat in which richards said helped create the band's distinctive sound. >> he said -- journey me now is dw reporter
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mark for more on this. how would you describe charlie watts' style? >> that is a good question because there are two sides to his style. there is his drumming, which is influenced by jazz, sitting on the backbeat kid, still laid-back but incredibly dependable. but a kind of stylish drummer. that is one side of his style. the b side, the second side to him was his very great dress sense. a sartorial sense of dressing. a dapper waste coded, looking outfit he would take two in more recent years. brent: not what you necessarily expect from a drummer either. how would -- how important was he would you say? >> he was the driving force of one of arguably the greatest rock 'n' roll bands.
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the guitarist ronnie wood said charlie wants is the engine -- charlie watts is the engine. we don't go anywhere without the engine. he was not flashy with huge drum solos like his counterparts in the who or in cream. but he wove the band together. keith richards was incredibly complementary of his style, saying the way he sat on the backbeat, the two and the four gave the stones the bounds it needed. that was what he was after. he said rock 'n' roll is a printable beat and the challenge is to make it something you can dance to. i think we can all say there has not been an event we have been at were a good rolling stones track has -- brent: the rolling stones, they have seemed almost immortal but we know they are not. where does this leave the
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stones? >> of course, i would imagine in a deep state of grief right now. if you go to their website, there is a beautiful portrait of charlie watts. as you said in their intro -- your intro, he has been there since the beginning. keith richards and mick jagger came to see him play in the band he was in before he drummed for the stones. obviously they will be devastated on a more practical level, they are on their no filter tour. that had just been announced charlie would not be joining them for that. he in his typical subtle wit said it is the first time i have been a little bit off time. brent: can he be replaced really? >> character, ambience, there is the feeling, that is irreplaceable. in terms of the drumming and the
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rhythm section, steve jordan plays a lot with keith richards in any case. he will be joining them for their 13 date tour. the fans will not be disappointed to see the stones but they will be upset he is not there to join the party. brent: it is hard to believe but that is the reality. thank you. 2 -- to japan now where the opening ceremony of the summer paralympic games it is taking place in tokyo's olympic stadium. the games are happening when year late due to the coronavirus pandemic and even now the seats in the arena are largely empty. they were empty for the grand ceremony. despite the delay and the changes, athletes are eager to show how far the determination can take them. >> a fireworks show signaled the start of the tokyo paralympics opening ceremony. the refugee team marched in to the stadium first in the parade of the athletes.
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a volunteer carried the afghan flag in place of that country's absent athletes. elaborate light shows and performances added to the spectacle. japanese emperor narrow heater declared the cams open to the president of the international olympic committee addressed the arena. >> when the games postponed last year, paralympic athletes were victims of hope. when the shadow of uncertainty was upon us, they never stopped training. they never stopped pursuing their dreams. they never stopped believing they would be here in the stadium tonight. >> the next 13 days, we will see around 4400 athletes take part in 22 sports. they will try to keep the paralympic flame alive spike the worsening pandemic in japan. brent: there is a reminder of
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the top story we are following. the white house has announced the u.s. will stick to the august 31 deadline to remove all troops from afghanistan. an emergency g7 meeting today, president biden and other leaders failed to agree on seeking an extension. leaders say they are united in -- in securing aid for afghanistan and upholding human rights. after a short break, i will be back to take you for the day. stick around. we will be right back. ♪
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anchor: welcome. these are the headlines. the taliban closed access to kabul airport for afghan citizens to stop there and back you wish and, meaning tens or thousands are trying to get out, now traed under taliban control in the afghan capital as the situation becomes more tense . g-7 nations discussing the crisis. they had the cia meeting with a leader, the deadline is

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