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law since 2003. hello again. a jury in the u.s. has found former and police officer kimberly potter guilty of manslaughter in the fatal shooting of a black man. 20-year-old daunte wright died after potter shot him during a routine traffic stop in april. >> the moment that we heard "guilty" on manslaughter one, emotions. every single emotion you can imagine just running through your body at that moment.
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i kind of let out a yelp because it was built up in the anticipation of what was to come while we were waiting the last few days. now we have been able to process it. we want to thank the entire prosecution team. we want to thank community support, everybody that has been out there who has supported us in this long fight for accountability. >> john hendren is in minneapolis and says it is rare a police officer in the united states is charged and convicted of killing someone while on duty. >> this was a very closely watched trial throughout the united states because daunte wright was shot during the middle of another trial of a white police officer who killed a black man. that was police officer derek chauvin, who knelt on the neck of george floyd, ultimately killing him. in this case, kim potter stood, almost impassive, simply lowered her head when each of those verdicts was read.
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she now has been taken immediately into custody and is already at a prison here in the state of minnesota. >> the u.k.'s health security agency says people with omicron are 50% to 70% less likely to be admitted to hospital than those with delta. the country reported nearly 120,000 cases on thursday. and coronavirus cases in new york have increased 60% in the past week. almost 12,000 new infections were reported wednesday. hundreds of women have marched in sudanese cities after allegations women were raped during anti-military protests last week. the united nations says it receive reports that 13 women were raped or getting raped by security forces on sunday. those other headlines on al jazeera, inside story is coming up next.
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♪ >> young and frustrated by the israel-palestine conflict, a new generation is protesting with defiance, and speaking up on social media, but are leaders hearing their demands for change? this is "inside story." hello and welcome to the program. some call them the new face of activism against israeli occupation. young palestinians and some
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israelis frustrated by their political leaders are making their voices heard. they have been at the forefront of protests against israeli airstrikes on gaza and the forced displacement palestinians from their homes in occupied east jerusalem. some smiled defiantly when arrested by security forces, much of it captured and shared on social media. messages of support from celebrities and social movements like black lives matter have been shared hundreds of thousands of times. some activists posted graphics online to try to explain the history of the conflict, and the video of "the daily show" host trevor noah reacting to the violence has been viewed more than 35 million times. >> if you are in a fight where the other person cannot beat you, how hard should you retaliate when they try to hurt you? i'm just talking about the difference in power, which is something we do all the time.
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i mean, think about policing. if a man has a knife, should the cops shoot him? in many parts of on the world like in the u.k., they say we will do everything we can to try to not shoot the person, even at risk to ourselves because at the end of the day, they brought a knife to a gunfight. when you have this much power, what is your responsibility? >> let's bring in our guests in occupied east jerusalem. a palestinian activist who was arrested by israeli soldiers during the protests. a spokesperson for if not now, a movement working to end jewish support for the occupation. and a humanitarian worker. a warm welcome to you all. there is a video showing you as you are being arrested by
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israeli security forces that went viral. i want to play a few seconds of that for our viewers, and that i will come back with a question. >> what did i do? just defend someone who was being beaten? that is why i'm being arrested now? >> later in that video, we also see you looking at the camera and smiling defiantly as you are being detained. i want to ask you first what was going through your mind while all this was happening, and also, did you expect this to get the kind of reaction that it has? >> hello. first of all, i did not expect it to get the attention that it got. i did not know that it was filmed in the first place. basically, what was going in my mind is that i was so angry. i was so angry because what is happening is exactly what is happening in jerusalem and exact
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we what happens in palestine in general and what has happened on palestine in 1948. i was so angry because it is still happening until today. i was questioning him, like why do you do this? why should we still go through this for more than 70 years now? since 1948, palestinians and palestine is under an ongoing negotiation of the land, and it has not stopped yet. it has not stopped until today, and it will not stop and there is still an occupation. the occupation will not stop in its attempts and in its occupation. >> when you see this kind of activism from a younger generation of palestinian activists that is emerging right now, that is getting so much attention in the media and on social media platforms, when you see videos like the one we just showed a few seconds of showing
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her smiling as she was being arrested, very defiantly, what does that make you think? does that make you feel more hopeful for the future? >> first of all, i'm proud to be on this show with miriam. the best video and with similar activism, it cannot but bring hope. i think we have lost it. we have been thinking for a while that we are talking to ourselves, prevailing to ourselves, we are shouting and screaming and saying no, this cannot go on, as if we are talking to a wall, and having this new generation as such an amazing example, it shows this is the truth, this is when the truth has to be revealed.
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it cannot stay forever. generation after generation will not be erasing what happened before. it does not work like this. finally, the world needs to know that, needs to see it. for me, as a palestinian living in gaza, to see this, it is so valuable. it brings back some hope for sure. >> i want to take a step back and look at something that happened at the congress in the u.s. there were progressive democratic members at the u.s. congress on thursday responding to the ongoing conflict with some questioning of the u.s. government's unconditional support of israel. let's take a listen. >> we must with no hesitation demand that our country recognize the unconditional support that israel has enabled the erasure of palestinian life and the denial of the rights of millions of refugees. >> let me be clear -- every
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single death in this conflict is a tragedy. every rocket and bomb that targets civilians is a war crime. >> when you see what happened in congress, when you hear progressive voices who are drawing parallels between the plight of the palestinians and the injustices faced by black americans, they are also comparing israel's posture with apartheid era south africa -- what does that make you think? do you feel as though in some ways public sentiment is shifting? just the fact that we are hearing rhetoric from people in congress that we would not really have heard just a few years back? >> absolutely. i think there is a huge shift under way, and i think, you know, seeing representative tell you -- representative tayyib on
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the house floor telling the story of her family, and these are the stories that have been so systematically excluded from us, and i think our politics are transformed by having palestinian women on the floor of the congress for the first time, and i think, as you said, this sort of national and international reckoning we are having about race and justice and, you know, i think young jewish people were being asked to apply that logic, you know, to -- when we understand and when we are learning about the experiences of black americans in this country, and then we are being asked to not apply that logic in palestine, and that is just something that we are not going to do anymore that so many people are not willing to ignore anymore. >> whenever i reported out of occupied east jerusalem the occupied west bank or gaza in
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the past, time and again, i encounter palestinians who tell me how frustrated they are with palestinian political leadership and how infected palestinian politicians -- how ineffective palestinian politicians have been. let me ask you -- did you set out to be an activist? i see that you are a cellist with the palestine youth orchestra, but is this really the only course forward to see any kind of change? >> first of all, i'm a contra bassist, not a cellist. >> my apologies for that. quick snow, it is fine. basically, we do not have anyone to represent us as palestinians. the israeli propaganda is really powerful. nobody would tell the stories of us palestinians living in israel or weaving in jerusalem.
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for example, what is happening is just an ongoing thing that happens every day in jerusalem. the israeli minister of the interior sets its demography goal for jerusalem at 70% israeli. this means getting the growing number of palestinians to move out of the city. since 1957 until today, hundreds of thousands of palestinians were displaced by house demolitions, discriminatory policies, and other different ways, so basically, from the beginning, the occupation implemented displacement, land confiscation, and other ways. despite all the discomfort we as palestinians from jerusalem go through, most palestinians choose to stay and stand up for the rights and dignity and future. >> earlier today, i saw that you
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tweeted, i'm very lucky that i could sleep for three continuous hours. north and east gaza experienced hell last night. i want to ask, what is the situation like right now? >> the situation has been extremely tough. we have experienced 2014 and whatever was before. trying to describe that in words is hard, but to put it may be in a simple way, you're talking about a continuous bombardment with a variety of waves, continuous drawn fighter jets. maybe tank shelling that started last night and contributed to but i was referring to, especially in the areas of east gaza and the north of gaza city
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and the north of the gaza strip, which, i mean, all my families and the people that i know about -- i know of and i'm communicating with, we work just through the night trying to check on them and what broke and what did not break and what is being destroyed, and who is escaping their home, and all the anxiety, the panic that people have seen from their own windows, peopled leaving their homes and evacuating, running away, fleeing these bombings. the rumors that also kept on spreading around the internet and among people along the line of this bombardment, this heavy ground place that israel is actually invading as the troops are getting while this was later denied and nothing happened.
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the misery of this is it happened before. each time, it happens with a certain level of intensity. i even thought of a sentence -- i don't know if it can make sense, but the world does not have a limit. it has thresholds. each time, there is a certain threshold. it is flexible, and it keeps on going up, up, and up. whenever somebody calls me and tells me, how are you doing, i tell them i'm fine because i know there is always worse, and there is always a worse situation. however this teaches us that things can go much, much worse, the more people you know who are affected, who left their homes or who are evacuated and are sitting nowhere in just a random public place or a school or relatives, i know many of those,
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unfortunately, and they have no idea what's going to happen next. however, this time, these very difficult hours, we keep ourselves mentally sane within the house, me and my two daughters and my husband. because this is such a big, enduring peace. >> the stated mission of your organization is trying to build a movement of jews to end israeli occupation. what steps need to be taken in order for that to happen? >> i will say, our mission is actually to end -- while ending the occupation is a worthwhile mission, our goals are more humble in that we are trying to end our community's support for occupation and really end the orthodoxy that says that jewish safety is relying on palestinian suffering. we see that as an important
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step, given how often jewish safety is cited as the reason for our government's complicity in the occupation and upholding systems of apartheid in israel. so, you know, we are building on decades of jewish and palestinian organizing on this issue and are really trying to do our part so that our community can be on the right side of this issue. >> let me ask you -- is palestinian leadership hearing these demands for change? >> basically, i don't think anybody is hearing, like from the leadership or organizations -- like human rights organizations or whatever. i think what we are doing is done by individuals, so basically, the ones who started
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the movement and started showing the world what we are doing and what has happened are people from the neighborhoods. they used the weapon that we have as palestinians, which is social media. we use that as a way for us to express our sense to reach the humans around the world, and still, this, they are trying to take it away from us, so posts and accounts that we talk about palestine and tell our stories are being deleted, so, basically, no one represents us from government or organizations. what we do is only individualistic, and we do it by our own. >> let me ask you a follow-up
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question. because so much of this is being shared so widely, you have a lot of people who do not typically engage in politics, and they are widely sharing infographics and videos expressing solidarity. what i'm curious about days do you believe this type of activism -- some people call it #activism -- but do you believe this is leading to a deeper kind of engagement on the issues? >> before this time, before what is happening today, like in 2009, houses were displaced, and settlers took these houses and until today, they are still living in these houses. before, the news would talk about what is happening, but they still could make it because nobody knew about it.
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during my protest, i met a girl from another city in palestine, and i told her i hoped what happened in 2009 won't happen again, and she did not know what happened in 2009 because the news did not reach her because israeli media is really powerful. israeli propaganda is really powerful. our stories could not reach anyone in the world. today, our news, our sounds, our shouts are reaching many people around the world because we are the producers of our story. we produce the story. we take the photos. we took the footage. we take these stories and share them to the world. this is why they started fighting against our stories and fighting against our posts. i do believe that because we could share our stories vary widely and share our voices vary
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widely, i do have hope that we will win the case, but it does not mean ending the occupation because what is happening is not only happening there. it is happening in the rest of the occupied territories and the rest of historical palestine. >> i saw you nodding along to a lot of what she was saying. i wanted to see if you had a reaction and i also wanted to get from your perspective if you believe this kind of activism we are seeing play out in a sony social media platforms right now will actually lead to deeper engagement when it comes to discussing these issues. >> i want to start with what she was saying about how right now, the focus is on a ship draw, but solving the crisis there is not going to end the occupation. i think that is something we are really trying to lift up in our
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organizing around this, and i think so often, and what is very frustrating is so often, it is described as isolated cases of violence or a conflict between two equal partners, and that is just not the case. it is completely decontextualized. it totally misses kind of the reality on the ground, and it also ignores the fact that the tools that israel is using are furnished by the united states, many of them by united states government. our government gives $3.8 billion of military aid to israel every year, so those are u.s. bonds and u.s. fighter jets that are flattening whole buildings in gaza. jesus u.s. diplomatic backing that is trying to shield -- it is u.s. diplomatic backing that is trying to shield the settlement enterprise from any consequences, so i think -- and i was really touched by what
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miriam said about being the producers of your own story, and i do think that is really important. as i said, similar to representative talib sharing on the house floor these stories of palestinians and what palace daily -- palestinians have experienced at the hands of all this is really violence and this campaign to expand jewish supremacy that has been ongoing for decades, and americans have to listen to those stories, and so i think it is really important that people are seeing that. i think social media has made that much more accessible, and i think that is important. >> if i may, i would like to ask you a little bit more of a personal question. one of the more horrifying aspects of all this is the fact that children are continuing to die. as an aid worker, as a humanitarian worker, as a
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mother, how does that make you feel? to continue seeing that play out in gaza? >> well, of course, we live here all our lives, and as a mother, i will address that as my own daughter is six and a half. the story started initially, and then now with this new chapter, she asks an innocent but very difficult question -- how can i protect her physically? there is something, but there is a limit to what we can do, but how can i protect her mental health, her well-being? how she is raised as a human above all, but somebody who understands also what is wrong and what is right, and what is
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just and what is injustice, that her parents and grandparents lived and so on and so on. the problem is the challenge i feel is how can i give her hope? only these couple of days, despite how challenging and horrifying they are and what fears i personally have now today of what may come next, how tonight or tomorrow will be for them or beyond them in the coming weeks, what is the balance that you can do as a parent, that you can keep them sane and human but also teach them the problem, why is this happening? with these days, as i mentioned, the amount of engagement around
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the world feels a bit different to me. feels a bit different then not only the kind of quick support, you know, sending messages -- hope you are all right, stay safe, we are on your side. it is much deeper than this. what is more important is what is happening in palestine, all of it and around it, even reaching jordan or lebanon, what we are seeing today in the news. this is like everyone is awake that this is wrong and it should stop. so i have some c1
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>> from me and the whole team to -- the whole team here, goodbye for now. ♪ ■■■■■■■■añ&
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