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but someone who has been particularly critical of cain and others and supportive of mitt romney the establishment. that would be karl christian rove. ç >> interesting take. mr. slater, good to have you with us tonight. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. rachel maddow starts right now. rachel, thank you for buying lunch today. i gave you barbecue from iowa and you feed the whole "ed" team supper. >> the whole fleet of sandwiches is worth one thing of iowa barbecue. >> thank you. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. i want to show you a picture of oak creek, wisconsin, today. oak creek, wisconsin, in the lower right hand corner, the glimmer of a sort of pretty color, that's unfortunately is here's another view of this. what you are looking at here is a collapsed bluff at a coal-fired power plant. that's right on the shore of
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lake michigan in wisconsin. for perspective here, so you can get a sense of how big this spill is, that tiny little yellow rectangle there, the other rectangles of a similar size, those are containment units similar to the ones you see loaded on the back of an 18 wheeler which is something that's this side. the explosion tossed the units into the mire and into the lake like they were tonka trucks or toothpicks. the flat piece in the muck is the roof of a building. the scale of this makes it look like a monopoly hotel. the company that operates this power plant that had this spill today, wi energies, wi as in wisconsin energies, say the disaster happened 10:45 yesterday morning. they say they have hired a contractor to try to clean this thing up. so now, of course, we're back to some big energy company's huge, disgusting disaster in water that everyone depends on.ç
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see that little thin line of boom right there? that is the pitiful means by which the whole thing is supposed to be contained. ah, boom. about 10 million americans have as the source of their drinking water that lake. while wi energies acknowledges this bluff collapsing 200 feet over lake michigan and throwing all that stuff into the lake, and they also acknowledge that coal ash was likely, quote, some of the material that washed into the lake, they also insist coal ash is not a hazardous material. it's unlikely there will be health impacts from the same event. that's the same thing the coal industry said, of course, after the last one of these coal ash disasters. december, 2008, dam break at the kingston plant in tennessee. that spill, you recall, dumped more than a billion, billion with a "b" gallons of toxic coal slurry across hundreds of acres and into local ponds and streams and a river. coal ash doused with water and left in containment ponds for years.
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thus the sludge. coal ash contains toxic elements like arsenic and mercury and lead. in a tennessee disaster, a tidal wave of the toxic flood flooded people's front yards, backyards and houses and the whole valleys they lived in. they think now it will take four years to clean the tennessee disaster up. residents were first told it would take four weeks to clean the whole thing up. since the disaster, the environmental protection agency has been looking into better ways to regulate coal ash since there are huge, huge pits of the stuff sitting around aging coal fire plants all over the country. as in wisconsin today, they're conveniently poised right next to the source of drinking water for millions of people. two weeks ago republicans in the house blocked the epa to do anything about this and blockedç the epa from having authority over coal ash which after all the industry says is healthy, absolutely nothing to worry about. lake michigan full of coal ash? well, that's no different than lake michigan with no coal ash
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in it. have a sip, take a dip, eat some fish, it's fine. wi energies, the company that owns the power plant where this happened today in wisconsin should be noted also lobbied heavily against the epa being able to do anything about this. they insisted they had this sort of thing all under control on their own, didn't need pesky regulations. they obviously had this thing in hand. the oak creek power plant, site of this disaster, is in the district of congressman paul ryan. famous for writing the house republicans' kill medicare budget. paul rye wrap voted to block the epa from doing anything about this. maybe he will help himself in the cleanup now. that vote in the house was 2 1/2 weeks ago. this week, part of the oak creek power plant collapses and coal ash and god knows what else in storage units the size of semi truck trailers careened into lake michigan.
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they have a line of boom out there trying to clean it up. what did the house spend their time doing today? now, this is a trick question. because remember, the republicans control the house. this is the new tea party republican congress, where after the 2010 elections, one out of every three republican members in the house is new. elected in 2010 in the great tea party election. and the tea party breed of republican, if you listen to the spin, they are supposedly not interested in your old traditional republican ideas. they're not interested, for example, in social issues and the whole gun, god and gay. they're populists, libertarian populists at that if you listen to the spin.ç they're a new breed of republican focused on economic issues. the house under republican control voted on a resolution to affirm that in god we trust is still our national motto. that was the house's business today. 2 1/2 weeks ago, they took care of not letting the epa regulate coal ash anymore. today they took care of the fact
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that in god we trust is our national motto. in god we trust was our national motto before today. it has been since the '50s. it is still our national motto. and by a vote of the house today, an official vote by the official business of the u.s. house of representatives today, it has been affirmed that in god we trust is our national motto. so yeah, america, that motto that we've got, we've got it, still, also, like we did before. in case you ever forget that, there's a convenient reminder in your pocket on each coin and all of our paper money. it's on there because it's our motto. and that's not changing. you may remember when the republican majority leader eric cantor said this fall that now that they've gotten everything else out of the way, republicans were going to focus like a laser on jobs. jobs, jobs, jobs. that was going to be it. today their jobs, jobs, jobs work was to vote to confirm that our national motto exists. in god we trust, still. you recall when the republicans took control of the house after the 2010 elections, part of the
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way they were going to show their seriousness to show these are not your father's republicans anymore, they're an all new laser focused tea party inflected republican party, one of the things they did is they changed the house rules. part of what they changed the house rules to was giving themselves a week's vacation for every two weeks that they work. which is awesome. that is really small governmentç at full pay. but they also said there wouldn't be anymore frivolous, symbolic, nonbinding resolutions anymore in congress. only democrats care about dumb stuff like that. under john boehner's leadership, the republicans would no longer allow any votes on symbolic resolutions expressing appreciation or commending our congratulating or celebrating or recognizing the accomplishments of or celebrating the anniversary of any particular thing in commemorative feel-good resolutions. so after president obama ordered a successful mission that killed osama bin laden this year, house republicans said they were sticking by their rule.
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yeah, osama bin laden may be dead, but there will be no standalone resolution in the house congratulating u.s. troops and the cia for killing bin laden. that would be against the rules. that would be frivolous. today they spent the day on a nonbinding resolution affirming that in god we trust is still the national motto. asked by the "washington post" today whether the in god we trust resolution might also be considered a symbolic thing that's supposedly against their rules now, a spokesman for eric cantor declined to comment. joining us now is john stanton, a reporter for "roll call." john, thanks very much for joining us tonight. nice to have you here. >> good to be here. >> did we, in fact, affirm that our national motto is in god we trust today? has that congressional business been accomplished? >> it is, in fact, safe. the motto has not changed. they did vote by an overwhelming majority. in fact, they actually had 90-some-odd per sent of the democrats vote with them and say, in god we trust is the national motto.
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yes. >> voting no on this is amazing -- voting on an affirmation that it is our national motto, you'd be denying that that is the truth. yeah. >> there actually were nine members that voted against it, ç including, i believe pete stark who's the only acknowledged atheist in the house. >> wasn't there one republican who voted against it as well? >> i believe so. i believe so. there's always the outlier. they got through without too much of a problem. >> this is an embarrassing thing. for the house republicans to be caught spending congressional time doing. no matter how strongly you feel about in god we trust, i mean, they've got this jobs, jobs, jobs message. they really want to look like they're working on jobs all the time. how do they keep letting that image that they're trying to
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project get punctured by spending time on stuff like this? and the triple, quadruple abortions bans and the other things they've been doing that are not the jobs agenda? >> with the abortion bill they did two weeks ago, i guess, they had already promised to do that as part of their pledge to america and there was an argument that could be made that because it would cut funding to planned parenthood, it was also, there was a fiscal component to it. there was an argument to be made there that it was a legitimate part of their agenda. you know, this bill, though, republicans that i've talked to don't understand why it came up, you know, as you said, leader cantor's office has not been commenting on why they decided to bring it up. and, you know, there is sort of a puzzlement of why. there is no fiscal component to it. it doesn't do anything in particular. and it just sort of creates the sort of, you know, momentary distraction from the broader
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agenda that they're trying to also the issue of what is the common wisdom about how our politics goes right now and whether or not the tea party movement and the big gains the republicans had in 2010 changed the republican party at all. i mean, did the republican freshmen class elected after 2010 change congress very much at all? >> well, the members, themselves, did not i don't think. the freshmen have gotten a bad rap in a way. people have sort of blamed them for a lot of the problems going on in the house and they really haven't been the big issue for mr. cantor or mr. boehner, frankly. they have voted more or less with the party line. but they have created the ability for those that are in the party, that have been in the party for a very long time, some of the hardcore conservatives
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that have been around for a while, they use them as cover essentially to do some of these kind of things. like this bill they're pushing some of the social writers on spending bills, other things like that. they get blamed for a lot of this. frankly, they are by in large, you know, your standard, you know, issue republicans. >> john stanton, reporter for "roll call." thanks again for your time tonight, john. always nice to have you here. >> any time. >> i will say that looking into this empirical question of whether or not the 2010 election, the republicans were elected in the 2010 election, have changed the republican party at all, there's two bits of data out there recently. politico looked at their votes on substantive issues in the house and found that republicans in general were willing to dissent from the party line. dissent from the party leadership 12.34% of the time. house freshmen, the class of ç 2010, was willing to dissent from the party leadership 12.5% of the time. no difference whatsoever. john's newspaper, though, "roll call," today, did find there was
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one really big difference about the 2010 class. in congress. between the 2008 congress and the 2010 congress, the net worth of congress increased by nearly 25%. so the one thing that i can empirically tell you is that electing lots and lots of tea party republicans in this last election meant that congress got a hell of a lot richer. ♪ ♪ ♪ when your chain of supply
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this is day three of the media scrum over past sexual harassment allegations made against herman cain. meanwhile, there's a totally unrelated herman cain scandal that is not anonymously sourced that no one is really asking him about and that frankly remains unanswered. and it's one that could potentially put someone in prison. the story as reported by the "milwaukee journal sentinel's" dan bice is this. at the start of herman cain's campaign, a private non-profit incorporated in wisconsin financially supported cain's campaign. they paid for things for the campaign, things like air travel and ipads. in other words, they made donations to herman cain for president. the group also paid for herman cain's campaign manager to travel to d.c. to meet billionaire conservative activist david koch. they also paid $3,000 to the
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singer who recorded the campaign's theme song. this concerns up in the non-profit's financial records ç but none turns up in herman cain's financial records. they say he's going to pay back the money to the non-profit, but herman cain doesn't list any of this as a debt he needs to pay, doesn't list it as anything else either. first things first, non-profits can't just pay for a campaign. you not only violate serious tax laws by doing that, you also make the candidate you are illegally funding potentially a felon for breaking campaign finance laws. but beyond that potential criminal culpability, there's also the question of where all the money came from. quoting from the "journal sentinel," "the records show prosperity usa, the non-profit in question, received $150,000 in loans from individuals who could not be identified." it's one thing to find out that
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herman cain's campaign is being illegally funded. it's another thing to figure out who is illegally funding it. joining us now is the reporter who broke this story, a columnist for "the milwaukee journal sentinel." dan, thanks very much for joining us this evening. nice to have you here. >> sure, thanks for inviting me. >> i realize there's a lot more to this story. the details i briefly described, did i basically sum those up correctly? >> you did a great job in a short period of time. it's a complicated story. >> what do you make of the cain campaign's response that they have no idea about any of this, this is news to them, they've never heard anything about this and they don't yet have a response? >> frankly, i don't buy it. i've been working on this story for weeks and actually for months. i first contacted the chief of staff for him and the deputy chief of staff this summer to go over some of the details. they wouldn't talk then. i tried reaching out last week. they wouldn't respond then. i ended up sending them the secret financial documents. they sent me a statement saying, we'll get back to you soon and they still have yet to get backç to me.
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>> is this something where this is sort of an arcane campaign finance law, this is a poorly understood matter in campaign finance and it's reasonable that a campaign like this might have forgotten to dot the is and cross the ts? >> the simple way to understand this is, election law and campaign laws are in place for one reason. that's to provide transparency. we should be able to see how campaigns are raising money and spending money and in this case, everything was done in secret. as you said, we don't know who the money was coming from, and without these secret financial documents being leaked to me, we wouldn't have known where it was going. it's the same thing with the non-profit. it's supposed to be transparent. they get a tax break in exchange for revealing how they're spending money, but this non-profit never filed a 990, never filed any tax returns. the only way we're able to get this stuff is that some of the
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contributors apparently were very upset with what was going on with the non-profit. so they contacted me. i received these records anonymously and was able to confirm them through other people. >> in temples of who those contributors are, obviously i'm not going to ask you to talk about your sources and anybody who's stayed anonymous at this point, i'm not in the position to out. this group, prosperity usa, was one of a number of groups set up by herman cain's campaign manager, mark block. after he was sort of exiled from wisconsin politics legally for getting caught in 2001 for having an outside group illegally fund a supreme court justice campaign. when block was allowed to get ç back into wisconsin politics, he signed up with americans for prosperity and founded these other groups that all have conveniently have prosperity in their names. they weren't all non-profits. they weren't all set up exactly the same way. what were you able to figure out about who was funding these
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groups for block? >> it appears there are a certain number of conservative wealthy people who are giving a lot of money. hundreds of thousands of dollars. you mentioned the loan. that's two individuals, one gave $100,000. the other one gave $50,000. that's the sort of money that we're talking about. and he set up three different groups, maybe four. now, americans for prosperity is distancing itself from all of this, saying we had nothing to do with this, but if you look at the records, and i've posted it all online, you can see there are transfers in and out from americans for prosperity to them and then transfers between these groups. it's a rather intricate system that they set up. and, you know, you mentioned the situation with mark block. mark and i have known each other for a long time.
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he's been involved in wisconsin politics for i think 39 years now, and i've been dealing with him for 19. so this isn't some sort of thing that we don't know each other. i contacted him, asked him all this stuff and it's just amazing that he's decided not to talk at all. >> dan, campaign finance is one of those issues even when it's a scandal that it's sort of hard to get people to pay attention to. one of the things that has received some attention for herman cain is he doesn't seem to have much of a traditional campaign apparatus. block obviously a longtime political operative. a lot of other people around him seem to be from americans for prosperity, the group set up by the koch brothers. because of that, i think this ç may be something people end up following with some interest. i have to ask you if there is more to this story from your perspective. do you expect to do further reporting on this? >> i only wrote about what happened with the cain campaign. these groups raised hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of dollars, and we haven't gotten to bottom of how that money was spent. you're right. campaign finance stuff is hard to compete with sexual harassment. but, you know, it's -- there are interesting elements given the koch brothers' american for prosperity and their involvement in this situation. >> dan bice, columnist for "the milwaukee journal sentinel." i've been reading you on all
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we are the oldest democracy in the world, but yet we have the lowest voting participation everybody, all waiting.
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in columbus, ohio, in toledo, ohio, waiting for ten hours at some polling places where they didn't have enough voting machines. that same year in florida, even with early voting to make things easier that year, they got huge lines. this is early voting lines. after a few weeks of huge lines for early voting, for election day voting in florida, huge lines again. bring your lawn chairs and something to eat, i guess. biblical waits for the chance to vote have been a problem for the country in a while now. in 2000 in georgia the secretary of state says the polls were overwhelmed with frustrated impatient citizens, some waiting two hours to exercise their frustrated impatient citizenship. in the bush/gore presidential race that year. two presidential races later things had not gotten better in georgia. check out this report from the early voting in the obama/mccain election. >> in atlanta they were queued up long before the doors opened. eventually emergency 900 people. voters in gwinnett county,
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georgia, waited eight to ten hours. >> eight to ten hours. so the wait time to vote in some parts of georgia started off bad and then over the course of the decade, the badness quinntupled. the secretary of state identified the two-hour-long lines as a barrier to democracy. if a two-hour wait is a barrier to democracy, what is a ten-hour wait? we can't say we're surprised about how hard it is to vote in this country or surprised when voters spend hours in line ç trying to vote as they did in the last presidential race. in florida and virginia and north carolina. voting was hard in 2000. voting was hard in 2004. voting was hard in 2008. voting is hard in this country. it is already hard. as we have been reporting on the show for months, since republicans won control of so many state governments in the 2010 elections, they have been engaged in a concerted cross country multistate effort to change voting rules. in ways that make both registering to vote and voting even harder.
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they have specifically sought to make voting harder by means that disproportionately impact students and minority voters and less well off voters who tend to vote for democratic candidates. in maine, republican governor paul la page signed a bill of allowing you to register as a voter and vote on the same day. there's never been a problem with that. it makes things too convenient. a yes vote on question one in maine would put the old voting rules back in place. a no vote on question one would uphold the republicans' changes. polls so far show this race in maine is going to be close. a week from today along side its personhood amendment that would ban abortion and most birth control in mississippi, mississippi voters next week will decide on an amendment to their state constitution that would make voting hard there, too. you'd have to produce documentation you've never before had to show in order to vote in mississippi. the amendment was sponsored by mississippi republicans and
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pushed by mississippi republicans and will cost mississippi a bundle the state might otherwise have charged for i.d. cards because the i.d. ç cards will have to be free so they do not become a modern day poll tax which is illegal. here's the thing. to get one of those i.d.s you have to show a birth certificate. to get a copy of your birth certificate, that costs 15 bucks. mississippi the poorest state in the country. that 15 bucks is kind of a poll tax anyway, once removed, barely. mississippians will also have to pay to defend the state against all the legal challenges they will face on this. legal challenges that probably do not have a very good, excuse me, legal challenges that probably to have a pretty good chance of overturning the law in the end. in florida this year, republican governor rick scott signed a law that cuts early voting in half. thus ensuring longer than ever lines to vote in florida. it also makes voter registration drives all but impossible.
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florida's new rules are so complicated and onerous that the league of women voters gave up rather than inadvertently commit a crime why trying to encourage people to register to vote. a teacher is accused of making that mistake. she's now facing a $1,000 fine for an alleged crime of turning in students' complications to vote in violations of the new rule that make that almost impossible to do illegally. the republican secretary of state in florida has written to the state attorney general demanding that teacher be pursued and fined for helping students sign up to vote. a second florida teacher has been accused of essentially the same crime in volusia county. >> we're fighting in wars so people can have democracy. when we don't recognize that, that upsets me. >> it's hard to conceive of prosecuting a case like that one, but in florida that is the deal now. the county election supervisor told the local paper, quote, this isn't someone who is going to commit voter fraud. ood thing.voter fraud. the election supervisor wrote herself in the local paper,
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quote, traditionally a supervisor of elections i go out of my way to avoid controversy and conflict, but legislation passed in the 2011 session was so egregious i felt i had to bring it to the attention of all interested citizens. that law was brought to the forefront in my office last week when we received by mail a packet of 50 completed applications of preregistrations from a public high school. it was an emotional day when i had to forward this information to the division of elections as being noncompliant. noncompliant as in illegal. she did turn in the teacher to the state for potential prosecution, telling the "palm beach post," quote, i was sick to my stomach when i did it. here was a teacher doing the good thing, but my job was on the line if i ignored it. joining us tonight for the interview is the county supervisor of elections, ann mcfall who serves florida's volusia county. you have not sought the spotlight on this and i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us about it tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> when you began your job
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overseeing the elections, did you think you'd have to report a teacher for trying to help her students vote? >> no, it's still appalling to me that motherhood and apple pie, our teachers we respect and uphold, that i'd have to turn a teacher in. it's still appalling to me. >> what happened when you reported this case to the state? has there been any act of furtherance? do you know what's going to happen in this case? >> i understand from the division of elections that the warning because it was her first time she did this. as opposed to the teacher in santa rosa who probably, it was her second time that this occurred.ç the teacher in volusia county was not a third party voter registrar. she was not registered as such with the division. that was her mistake number one. mistake number two, the new law says that you have to get the applications into my office within 48 hours. she did not do that.
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it was the beginning of the school year. and it was an sga project to get seniors preregistered. so she just mailed them in. there wasn't any major election until 2012 in that area of the county. so she didn't see a need to do that. it's just amazing to me, in volusia county, alone, we probably have 5,000 public school teachers. how in the world are we going to be in compliance when half of them two out and do voter registration drives? which they to on a regular basis. >> has there been any problem of voter fraud that you know of in volusia county associated with teachers doing voter registration drives or any other regular day of business voter registration drives? >> no and i keep asking people to show me the fraud, show me where it occurred. beginning in 2006, florida began operating a statewide database. all 67 counties are a part of this state of voter registration database. we will catch anyone who tries to register, for instance, in volusia county, already
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registered in another county. we will catch someone if abe bigoda tries to register in volusia county. it just won't happen because of our security features that the state helped us develop. it just doesn't happen. >> miss mcfall, i know that you are republican in florida. the law about voter registration this year was passed by the ç republican-controlled legislature. signed by the governor who shared your party. how do you square your objections to this law? your feelings about it, with your party's support for it? is this a partisan issue for you? how do you feel about it? >> well, it is not a partisan issue with me. i'm proud to be a republican, but i will tell you my first and foremost job that i was elected to do was to have equitable, transparent, fair elections. this law with the early voting changes, the voter registration
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changes does not make that ease of elections any easier for any of the 67 supervisors. >> what do you think could be done now about these new restrictions? florida? obviously the cases of the teachers getting in trouble for doing something that most people support i think is getting some attention to it. your willingness to discuss this openly is getting attention to it, particularly because you're a republican official. what do you think could be done to ease this burden? >> well, you know, it's interesting that in the past month i've probably made ten public speaking engagements. i've talked to republican clubs, democratic clubs, i've talked to universities, i've talked to league of women voters, aauw. i've talked to all of them. it's unanimous. none of these groups like the third party law. it just is too cumbersome. if nothing else, the florida legislature goes into session in
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january and it goes january through march. hopefully they can create some of these misdeeds that they did in 2011. >> what do you think motivated them to change the law in the first place? >> oh, i think the ease of registering to vote was too much.c: c1 there were some other changes that is really locking out the chance for students to vote. in florida, the primary for 2012 was moved up two weeks to august 14th. most of the state universities don't go back into session until august 21st. >> ann mcfall -- >> why is that? >> -- supervisor of elections in florida's volusia county. it's a pleasure to speak with you. i know this isn't the easiest thing and your willingness to talk about it publicly i think is making a real difference in your state. thank you very much, ma'am. >> thank you. >> thank you. all right. right after this show on "the last word," lawrence o'donnell will get a republican take on herman cain's current mess from his guest, meghan mccain. lawrence and meghan.
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and now the occupation has mittens. when we last reported on occupy wall street, a winter storm was about to hit the eastern seaboard including wall street in manhattan. seeing the temperatures were about to drop, new york city firefighters showed up at the occupy encampment and confiscated six generators and about a dozen cans of fuel used to run them.w1yiñrñi no more heaters for the people derided as hippies. even on this unseasonably really cold weekend in new york, almost 3 inches of snow fell in manhattan saturday. it was wet and windy and very cold in new york city. people at occupy wall street this past weekend passed out hats and scarves and ponchos. it sounds basic. you cannot expect a bunch of urban political activists to know what to do when the snow is not flying and you're not planning to go inside.ç you can apparently expect them to stick it out through the storm. >> once we figure out how to stay here and we are going to do it, that's going to be bigger than any sign that any one of us is holding right now. because they're counting on us leaving.
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because it sucks. this sucks. you know? belief in the movement, obviously as cheesy as it sounds, is the most important part. >> the good news for the occupiers is that human beings have been dealing with winter for a very long time. we have learned a lot about dealing with winter, even when we're not in our homes and don't have heaters. back in wisconsin in march, remember republican walker's state government kicked people out of the capitol building where they hunkered down with sleeping bags and crock pots to protest the union stripping bill. the governor kicked them out into the cold. this was not march as in spring but march as in wisconsin winter. did the protesters go home? no, the protesters did not go home. this is wisconsin. the unofficial motto of wisconsin is we fish through ice and so what if state rules forbade the protesters from putting up tents? the protesters of wisconsin unfurled their sleeping bags on plain air and created a tent city without tents. they called it walkerville. it was 14 degrees in walkerville.
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cold enough to make the hairs on the inside of your nose freeze. they stayed. everyone involved with the occupy movement has known winter would be the real challenge. because occupy wall street, occupy wherever, is about staying put. it's not a march where we show up at a certain time and do your thing and go home. it's about taking up space indefinitely. in portland, maine, this weekend, the shoveled outç the occupation. someone build aotester. in maine, they are staying. in hartford, connecticut, it snowed, and they stay there too. to keep going, to stay out there and show commitment, the snow actually becomes part of the message. you have the physical problem of winter, and winter can be dangerous. at the facebook page, they are posting links to the survival
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field manual and the steigy guide to winter camping. hot tip, pa 9 vowels are your best bet for getting off the cold, hard ground. they need to consider locations carefully. not in a defacto, urban wind tunnel. you need some shelter from tall buildings nearby, some grasses so you are not parking your tail on the asphalt. keep the occupation going. they may start taking turns sleeping out so that not everybody has to sleep in the deep freeze every night. maybe they will try building igloos, who knows. maybe these, like in mongolia. they are getting three donated by labor unions, apparently. at occupied oakland, the banks or buildings that are sitting empty, taking shelter would be its own political point. tomorrow occupy oakland is
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calling for a general strike in oakland that will shut down the port of oakland and banks and businesses. businesses and organizations that support are asked to give employees the day of so they can join throughout the day at 14th and broadway in oakland.ç occupy iowa has both sides, the republican candidate's offices and those for president obama. while the occupied movement has been figuring out their big picture strategy and for coping with winter, the fact of their occupation has been changing the ambient temperature of politics. why someone like erick kanter is all of a sudden for the first time in his life talking about income equality. occupy wall street has made it possible for the beltway media 2 point and laugh at fax tax proposals or shoveling yet more money to the already rich as peoples. that is how you get into the narrative. when bank of america blinks, as
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beef jerky that contains the caffeine of a cup of coffee. the staff was about three hours late to the rest of the news in the world today because we got so the real by decaffeinated meet thing. fascinated by the idea of caffeinated jerky and knowing that was the best new thing in the world today, we really decided we were stumped about how to translate this idea into a television experience. we have a couple of ideas, like using a slim jim, excuse me, to stir your red bull in a glass, bus and parting meeting this to your caffeine experience. i will let that marinate. or serial style including the flaky kind of turkey in a bowl with, as the milk experience so you can have it together.
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it could work. i will try them. at the control room's request come i am supposed to wait until the end of the show in case i cannot talk when i tried this. we will table these for a second. after coming up with ideas about how to combine meat and caffeine is that the military did not invent decaffeinated jerky. there is a commercially available meat product already that is called turkey jerky. it comes in turkey flavorç so that would be perky turkey jerky. the guy who founded the company is running the new york city marathon this weekend and will do it while wearing a suit made of herky-jerky. before we knew you could buy this, this was our idea about whether they were being a genius or gross or just genius. here we go. meet plus caffeine equal the best new thing in the world today.