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we got three guys, three guys. >> here they again, a long line of grown men online targeting kids. >> why would you bring chocolate flavored condoms if you didn't want to have sex with her? how old is this girl? >> i think she had told me she was 13. >> and you are 27. >> uh-huh. >> i was going fishing. >> sound likes what you're fishing for was sex with a 12-year-old girl. >> who's here this time? there's a brad pitt wan nap be. >> being arrested. >> for what? >> a guy with a fancy car and a loaded gun. >> that's not good. >> and a man with a violent past. >> 48-year-old male coming for a 13-year-old female. >> eager to meet in a very
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public place. >> what's on the agenda for tonight? >> hidden cameras are rolling, suspects are running and police are ready. >> get down! get down on the ground. >> we arrested a very significant number of pedophiles. >> it's a new investigation. chris hansen with "to catch a predator." >> you think they would know by now. suspected predators on the web, then at the door. thanks for joining us. i'm stone phillips. >> and i'm ann curry. this time we're in long beach, california, where the long arm of the law has reached out and grabbed more than three dozen men in just three days. >> chris hansen has the latest. and again, we want to warn you that some of what you will see and hear is explicit. >> the hey, come on in this way. how are you doing? >> looks like you fell asleep. >> kind of. how was your drive? >> long. >> 22-year-old cory blagg is walking into date line's undercover house in long beach, california, a house with 15 hidden cameras. they're recording every move he makes.
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blagg, an ex-marine, works for a computer company in san diego and just drove 100 miles to get here. why? blagg had the chatted online with someone he thinks is a 13-year-old and says he wants her to be his girlfriend. >> all i'm missing is a sweetheart to share my love with. >> but blagg is really chatting with a decoy working for perverted justice, an organization that exposes men who sexually target minors online. perverted justice works as a consultant for "dateline," setting up computer profiles and pretending to be underage teens interested in sex. remember, he is 22. and the decoy says she is a 13-year-old female. >> we can do anything you want. i don't know how shy you are, honey. >> the decoy asks -- >> you want to make love to me? >> yes. i'm really attracted to you. >> the decoy tells him she's a virgin and that she has a hot tub in her house. then blagg wants to know if she's willing to lose her virginity in that hot tub.
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>> when we get in the hot tub and we are both turned on, are you willing to make out tonight? i would love to be your first. it is up to you. >> the decoy asks him if he is going to bring condoms. he says yes and he has a special surprise for her. >> i have chocolate-flavored condoms. >> chocolate flavor? >> yes. it tastes like chocolate. do you know what i mean? >> and sure enough, here he is, a man who says he's bringing chocolates, expecting to spend the night with a 13-year-old girl. >> i have some drinks here. you kind of have one already. it's cool-aid. >> i need to use the bathroom. >> what's on the agenda for tonight? >> what's that? how you doing? why don't you have a seat on that stool over there for me. what's happening? >> not a whole lot. >> please, sit down. find the place okay? >> yeah. >> how long did it take you to drive? >> about an hour and 45 minutes. >> an hour and 45 minutes. and why would you drive so far on a saturday night? >> to see my friend. >> to see your friend? >> yes.
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>> who is this friend? >> sky. >> sky? uh-huh. >> and how old is sky? >> she's 13, i believe. >> 13. and how old are you? >> 21 -- 22. >> 22. you're 22 and you're here to see a 13-year-old girl. >> yes. >> who is home alone. >> yes. >> do you see any issues with that? >> i was just going to hang out with her. just going to hang out? >> she said she had a hot tub. we were just going to have fun. she seemed nice. >> she seemed nice. >> yeah. >> she seemed 13. she seemed underage. >> there's nothing wrong with hanging out with girls that are 13. >> remember, blagg wasn't talking online about hanging out. he was talking about the 13-year-old losing her virginity in the hot tub. can you tell them you're studying at a friend's house? that's the excuse you suggest for her to tell her parents. >> yes. >> if this is all on the up and up, why do you have to give her an excuse to give to her parents? >> because she obviously would be too young. >> there you go. there's the answer. she would obviously be too young to go out with somebody who's 22
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years old. she says are you going to bring condoms? i have chocolate-flavored condoms. i only have two left. i will use them for you. >> yes. trying to make her excited so that she would allow me to come up here and hang out with her. >> and have sex with her. >> not necessarily. >> why would you bring chocolate flavored condoms if you didn't want to have sex with her? >> what's that i normally have. i always have condoms. >> while he doesn't say he's done this before with an underage teen, he does say he's had dozens of lee and sons with people he's met online. >> have you ever been surprised? >> oh, yes. once it was a transvestite. >> you had this sexy chat online with somebody. you showed up at their house and it was a transvestite. >> at first look, everybody would think she was a woman. >> right. how did you find out that she was actually a he? >> well, when i was talking with her, her voice was a little deeper. >> yeah? had a little adam's apple thing going on?
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ho how did that work out for you? >> i said thanks for the offer, but i'm leaving. >> you scooted on out of there. >> oh, yes. >> well, here's something that i think you'll also find as a surprise. i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc" and this is one of our "to catch a predator" stories. have you seen the show before? >> i have. >> you have. how many times have you seen it? >> a couple dozen. >> a couple dozen. and what do you think of the stories? >> they're pretty incredible. >> pretty incredible. did you ever think you would be on one? >> no. >> outside, the long beach police are getting into position. >> you're good to go. and perhaps because blagg has seen our investigations before, he's in no hurry to leave. he probably knows what's waiting for him outside. officers take him to their nearby processing center where he, along with the other men who came to our undercover house, are photographed and
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interviewed. by the way, despite blagg's comments about bringing condoms, the police don't find any when they search him and his car. later, he pleaded no contest to one count of an attempted lewd act upon a child. sergeant let debraybander is in charge of this operation for the long beach police. he says his department would not be able to run an investigation this large on its own. >> to run an operation like this, at the front end there is a lot of man hours going into the internet chats. it would cost an astronomical amount of money to pay police officers to sit in front of computers to conduct these chats. >> essentially, perverted justice had the expertise and time your department didn't? >> that is correct. >> runner. runner. >> got it. >> and they need that expertise during our investigation here in long beach. for the first time, they'll be tracking a suspect to a nearby park where he may think he'll be able to lure a young teen into his car. >> everybody on this?
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>> yeah, we got it. we got it, we got it. >> the house will still get busy. >> how are you doing? why don't you have a seat right over there on that stool right there. are those your friends outside? some will try to make a get away. >> take him. take him. he's running. >> but the police will have other plans. >> get on your knees now. get on your knees now! follow directions now!
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some of the men who have come to our undercover houses over the years have come up with some pretty imaginative reasons for being there. >> i'm looking for work. >> i do blacktop sealing. >> i'm just driving around trying to learn georgia again. >> and this next man's excuse for showing up at our house in long beach, california, also ranks way up there because he tells us he's come for educational reasons. our encounter begins online when 29-year-old college student farzad kalantari thinks he has been chatting with a 12-year-old girl. it sure doesn't sound like he's talking about schoolwork. the decoy writes, what do you want to do when we meet? at first he says talk. but then he tells her they would have sex. >> do you have any condom, he
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asks? the decoy says no. then he writes, i must go shopping. >> want to get a drink? >> now he is in the undercover house introducing himself to the decoy. >> nice to meet you. >> hi. >> hi, nice to meet you. how are you? please have a seat right over there. how old is the girl you were coming to see? >> 14. >> 14. >> yeah. >> that's not what she told you on the internet though. you said 14. she says right here 12. >> oh, really? >> yeah. >> okay, younger than this age. >> that's when he says he's not here for sex. he is here to help her get ahead in school. >> you need to study. you need a good education. >> you came here to tell her that she should be studying. >> yes. >> yeah. but you also seem to indicate in this chat that the education you wanted to give her was sex education. >> no. >> no?
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did you forget what you talked about? only once that i can see in the transcript did you talk about the importance of education and virtually everything else talks about taking a shower with her. having sex with her. [ bleep ], [ bleep ], [ bleep ] you. that's what you said. that's what you say you want to do. >> my english is not good. you know, now i -- i'm from austria. >> i'm sorry? >> i'm born in austria. >> in austria? yeah, and english is not perfect. >> that's a pretty universal language there. blank my blank and blank you. that's english. do you know what that means? >> yeah. >> yeah, okay. so why would you say that to a 12-year-old girl? >> my mistake. >> he tells me this is the first time he's had a chat with an underage girl. but i point out to him that according to per verred justice, he had a sexually charged chat less than two weeks earlier with a decoy who said she was under 14 years old. >> only just chatting.
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>> see, here's the thing. what you said a minute ago is not what you're saying now. do you have a condom with you? >> no. >> you don't? do you have it in your car? >> no. do you want to check my car? >> i didn't say that. i'm just asking you. did you bring condoms. >> no, no. >> why did you ask if she had condoms? >> only ask. >> here's what you need to know. >> okay. >> i'm chris hansen. >> is police? >> i'm not the police. i'm with "dateline nbc." we're doing a story on people who try to meet underaged boys and girls online for sex. so if there is anything else you would like to tell us, feel free to walk out that door. he says good-bye to us and hello to the long beach police. >> get on the ground. get on the ground. >> get on your knees now! >> at the processing center, kalantari is distraught. >> maybe kill myself, maybe. remember what he told us? do you have a condom with you? >> no. >> you don't. do you have it in your car?
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>> no. >> three condoms. >> police find condoms in his pocket. later, kalantari pleaded guilty to one count of an attempted lewd act upon a child. >> the guy is getting out of his car. >> hey, how are you? >> back at the house, a 23-year-old is pulling up in a fancy infiniti coup. he is a loan consultant. and lives in long beach just about a mile from our undercover house. in his online chat with a decoy who says she is 13, he asks what sex acts she's performed. he says he is concerned about her. you know, girls can't really process the emotion of sex until after 16 at the earliest. >> but later, he asks the girl if she wants to have sex and he seems to be well aware that sex with a 13-year-old is against the law. >> a lot of things are illegal. i have to keep myself out of jail, you know. >> but in the end, he says he wants the girl to perform oral sex on him and that he'll perform other sexual acts on her.
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>> what do you want to do? >> that's a very good question. what's in your drink? >> now he is inside the house. >> so this is your hot tub. >> yeah. >> this is the hot tub but i'd like you to sit right over there on that stool for me, please. that one right over there. why did you come here tonight? >> just to see her. >> just to see who? >> carlie. >> carlie. and how old is carlie? >> 13. >> 13. and how old are you? >> 23. >> you don't see a problem with that? >> i do see a problem. yeah. >> what is the problem you see? >> well, i just came to say hi to her. >> you just came to say hi. >> yeah. >> but in your conversation on the internet, you talked about more than just coming over to say hi. >> that wasn't my intention. as you see in the conversation. >> i have the conversation. you seem to be counseling her that perhaps she's too young to have sex. >> but then the conversation sort of switches back around, doesn't it? like you're the concerned older guy for a minute.
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trying to say you're too young but then it transitions, if you're going to have sex, it might as well be with me. that's kind of what you're suggesting here. >> no. no. >> not at all? >> no. never. >> you say yep, i knew it. you're a horny little 13-year-old girl. you say, i'm going to lick you. >> i say that a lot. >> you say that a lot. >> i'm a gonna lick you. you say that a lot to 13-year-old girls? >> no. she kept insisting that i come over. >> so a 13-year-old girl controls your life. >> no. >> what you're saying, then, doesn't make any sense. >> she kept saying she was sad i wasn't coming. so i thought i would say hi and then leave. >> you talk about taking her for a ride in your car. do you think that's okay to stop by and pick up a 13-year-old girl who's home alone and take her for a ride in your car? >> that would have been a little bit of a problem. >> a little bit of a problem there. and like some of the others, he said he is here not for sex but out of concern for the girl's welfare. >> the only reason i wanted to come by, stop by, she's 13. her mother is out of town. i wanted to make sure she is okay. >> you're going to baby-sit. you're going to check the locks on the door? >> uh-huh.
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>> you've never met this girl before. here you are in this house, you expect me to believe that you came over here to check on the locks on the doors? >> no. i came to check to make sure she was okay and to say hi. i still have you someplace to go right now. i just came by for a minute. >> where are you going next? >> my parents' house. >> your parents' house. well, before you head off to your parents' house, there's something you need to know. >> okay. >> that is, i'm chris hansen within "dateline nbc"." we're doing a story on adults who try to meet kids online for sex. if there's anything else you'd like to say to me, we'd like to hear it. >> that's it. >> his reaction? we expected surprise. instead, we get curiosity. >> can you notify me, let me know if it will be on or not? >> if you give me a call. >> okay. can i get your card? >> i don't have a card with me but i'll write down the number. >> outside, the long beach police are ready to give him another number, a case number. >> put your hands up, get on your knees. get on your knees. >> he is charged with one count of an attempted lewd act on a child.
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but what has the police more concerned is the fact that he has a legally registered gun in the trunk of his car, along with a clip loaded with bullets. >> that's not good. >> these guys are living in a fantasy world. they have this fantasy of having sex with a child. and you don't know how far they're going to take that fantasy. they may have a fantasy of going out in a blaze of glory. they may have a fantasy of harming somebody when they go out. you just don't know. >> later, he pleaded not guilty. >> take him, he's running. coming up -- >> he's in his veck. >> heavy traffic at our undercover house. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. lord of the carry-on. sovereign of the security line. you never take an upgrade for granted. and you rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle.
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over the three days of our investigation in long beach, 38 men are arrested. and at times, there are so many suspects coming to the undercover house, that police
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have to adjust their strategy. as you'll see with these next visitors. >> hello? >> you all right. this is our 8:00. he is early. hot cobra guy. >> meet josiah walker. he drove that cobra mustang 100 miles from san diego. the 27-year-old who serves pizza at costco uses the screen name hot95cobraguy. he chatted online with someone who said she was a 13-year-old girl. walker asks if she's a virgin, if she's tried oral sex, anal sex, what sexual positions she likes and he wants to know if she would try group sex. >> how would you feel about watching a guy and a girl do it or being watched by a girl? >> and he appears to know that it would be illegal to have sex with a 13-year-old when he writes, you're young. and i don't want to get in trouble. >> but here he is. and he can't wait to get into our undercover house. >> hey, come on in. how are you doing? >> pretty good. how are you? >> good.
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come in. >> you want me to park in the garage? >> oh, no, no big deal at all. how was your drive? >> pretty good. how are you? >> good. >> what are you doing? >> give me a hug. >> awesome. hi. >> hi, hi. >> you got your hug. why don't you have a seat over there for me. no, sir, right there. please. please take your hand out of your pocket. pretty shiny mustang you have out there. >> thank you. >> what was it that perhaps you had on the potential menu for tonight? >> spend the night here. >> spend the night. >> are you a private investigator or police or -- >> i said i'll get to that in just a minute. how old is this girl that you came to visit? >> i think she had told me she was 13. >> 13. 13, right? >> yeah. >> and you are 27. >> uh-huh. >> do you often meet 13-year-old girls? >> oh, no, no, no. >> well, you make it sound like
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it's such a terrible thing. yet, here you are in this living room where you believe a 13-year-old was home alone. >> a slip of judgment. >> a slip of judgment. walker tells me he brought a change of clothes in case he spent the night. a camera and condoms. and you're here to meet a 13-year-old girl who is home alone after a sexually charged conversation in a chat room with her. >> yeah. that's not good. >> all right. well, there's something you've got to know. i'm chris hansen with "dateline" nbc. we're doing a story on adults who meet teens to have sex. and if there's anything else you want to tell me, now would be a good time. otherwise, obviously, you're free to walk out the door. we asked walker to leave through the back door, because out front is our next visitor. >> he is walking up the driveway. go to position two. open the door. >> hello? >> what's up? >> when more than one suspect shows up at a time, it poses a challenge for the long beach police. >> we really had to keep close communication with the arrest teams so they knew what was going on. one of the problems was that they would come out of their hiding spot too early.
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the next predator coming up might have seen them and been scared away. >> for instance, when 26-year-old joshua larios walks in the front door, the police pulled our earlier visitor in the backyard, before taking him in for processing. who was your drive? >> not too bad. >> larios chatted online using the screen name downtown san diego to a decoy who said she is a 13-year-old girl. larios sends the girl pictures of his penis. then he writes, would you like to see in person? later he writes, if you visit me, would you do anything i ask sexually? >> yeah, i guess. >> larios asks the girl to appear naked in front of her father. >> i want you to let him catch you naked and see what he says. >> and he wants her to do something else in front of a school teacher. >> i want you to wear a skirt and no panties and let one of your male teachers see your legs open in class. >> then he tells the girl about the sex acts they will perform
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together. we can't repeat them here. >> who was your drive? >> and here he is in our undercover house. >> awesome. i made us some drinks. >> you did? okay, cool. >> meeting someone he was told was 13. >> sorry. this is kind of weird. i haven't done this. >> come here. one second. >> as soon as larios sees me, he makes a beeline for his car. >> take him. take him. he's running. >> because the police are busy with our earlier suspect in the backyard, they can't catch larios before he speeds away in his $50,000 lexus. so an undercover police car follows him down the block. just around the corner, larios is pulled over by a squad car and gives up peacefully. >> we're code four on the stop. one in custody. >> he's arrested and brought to the processing center. he refuses to give the police any information without his attorney present. >> first, i need to know exactly what's going on. >> larios and walker were both
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charged with one count of an attempted lewd act on a child. walker pleaded no contest. larios faces an additional charge of attempting to send harmful matter. he pleaded guilty to both charges. a lit -- a bit later on, the police bringing in someone hon never made it in the house. >> where do you want this gentleman? he is 32-year-old gabor nagy. a waiter at a pizza restaurant who had a sexually explicit chat with someone who told him she was 12. he drove past as another suspect was being arrested in front of the house. that's when police took him into custody. >> in the chat, the girl said that she was having her birthday, indicating that she was under the age of 14. i believe she said she was turning 13. >> at first, he insisted he didn't know how old she was. except for one thing. >> he brought her a birthday cake for her 13th birthday. so once confronted with that, it was hard for him to say he
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didn't know how would she was. >> very much so. >> later, nagy pleaded no contest of one count of a lewd act on a child. coming up, a new approach. >> we got three guys. three guys. >> sending in a scout to make sure the coast is clear. >> i'm going to go call a couple friends since you have a couple friends.
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our house in long beach, you the california, may look ordinary from the outside. >> let's go hot. >> but inside, it's crammed with electronic gear, production team and cameras, lots of cameras. >> copy. >> so we're able to keep an eye on all angles. and it's a good thing. we were expecting this man, maroof farooq, to show up after having a sexually explicit chat with a decoy who said she was a 12-year-old female. >> is that one or two of them? >> we were surprised when he gathered outside our house with two other individuals. >> three guys. three guys. into farook and another man stay outside and send in this young man. >> do you want to pour me a drink? >> i'm cool. >> are you sure? >> yeah. >> i was thinking, i'm going to call a couple friends since you have a couple of friends and get a couple of people in here, what do you think? >> how are you doing? why don't you have a seat on that stool right over there. are those your friends outside?
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we quickly realized the young man who we learned is just 15 doesn't seem to know what's going on. >> did you bring condoms? >> no. >> i'm not come for the sex. i'm just coming for the meet like friend. i have girlfriend already. >> he tells us that it was that man outside, farooq, with whose idea it was to come here. using the name spaki 786, he uses terms too graphic to use on television how he'll have anal and oral sex with a girl and how large his penis is. i know you're 12 but girls these days are way ahead, he writes. would you let me lick you everywhere? back inside, this 15-year-old is still saying his friend has set this all up. >> my friend told me, she is 17. >> while i'm having the conversation inside, the two men outside apparently get suspicious. >> they're running. they're taking off. >> they leave their friend inside and try to get to their car. >> put your hands up. on your knees. >> but the police take them into
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custody. >> why don't you do me a favor. your friends outside? >> yeah. >> why don't you go get them and tell them i would like to talk to them. >> okay. >> place your hands up in the air. take your hands out of your pocket. on your knees. >> it is only after he is arrested, too, the police begin to sort out what happened. the 15-year-old is released and isn't charged with a crime. >> what are the charges? why are we here? accompanied farooq also tells the police he didn't know what was going on. later, police also release him and don't charge him with a crime. but farooq himself, the man who had those graphic chats with someone who said she was 12, is charged with one count of an attempted lewd act upon a child. >> he was the one that mast masterminded this plan. the other two individuals didn't really know everything that was going on. they knew they were going to meet a girl. from what we were able to determine, they did not know the age of that girl.
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>> later, maroof farooq pleaded guilty. at the processing center, we meet some other men who didn't come to the house but are still arrested and charged. they all had sexual chats online with decoys who said they were underage. >> what do you do? >> i'm a software engineer. >> 34-year-old loren hayden, a software engineer, tells police he does work for the defense department. online, hayden has a sexual chat with a decoy who says she is 13. after saying he looks like brad pitt, he tells the girl he has a very large penis. >> most girls can't handle it. >> then he sends along a picture of it, and agrees to meet for sex. >> what's going on? i mean. >> you're getting arrested. >> for what? remember how hayden boasted online about the size of his genitals? >> put it on the table. he pulls a large sexual device out of his pants. later, he pleaded no contest to one count of an attempted lewd
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act upon a child and to one count of attempting to send harmful matter. and then there is this man. 28-year-old alvin king, using the screen name sole pleaser, he had a sexually explicit online chat with someone who said she is a 13-year-old girl. living up to his screen name, king tells her, i like to suck on toes. he says he wants to have oral sex with her, and he's clearly seen our investigations before. are you a cop posing undercover to catch online predators? >> no. what are you talking about? >> don't you watch "dateline"? >> no. what's that? >> it's a show on nbc. they take guys to jail for messing around with young girls. >> maybe that's why he doesn't want to come to our house. he was arrested in the park and brought to processing. we find out later that king runs this website called hot bare foot women. king later pleaded no con test to one count of at attempted lewd act upon a child and one
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count of attempting to send harmful matter. but there's another potential predator who has a history with perverted justice. he doesn't want to come to our house either so our decoy is now waiting for him in the park. so are "dateline's" cameras. he is 48-year-old frank sierras. back in 2004, before "dateline" was working with perverted justice, sierras using the name pitbulldavid2001 chatted online with the a decoy who said she was 13. he sent the decoy pictures of his penis and told her, i want to make love to you. i know i will say i love you when i am making love to you. >> back then, perverted justice put his chat on its website, but he was never charged with any crime. then two years later, during "dateline's" investigation in petaluma, california, he began another sexually explicit chat with a decoy who told him she was 13. >> he wanted to come but he was afraid it was a set-up. afterwards, he was remorseful that he didn't. >> fast forward to our current
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investigation. that same perverted justice decoy tells sierras, she is visiting a friend in long beach. they agree to a meeting in the park. now our decoy is waiting for sierras to arrive. >> are we copying this? everybody on this? >> we're about to find out that
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48-year-old frank sierras is driving more than 300 miles to get to long beach. he is coming to meet a girl he chatted with online. >> a 48-year-old male comes for a 13-year-old female. >> but for this meeting, the decoy is waiting in a park because sierras said he didn't want to meet at the house. >> he is about five or six hours
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from his house all the way here and then take her back to where her mother lives. >> according to perverted justice, sierras had a sexual chat with an underage decoy before. now using the screen name, cali guy for you 2005, sierras chatted online for almost a month with a decoy who said she was 13. remember, in his earlier chat, he sent that picture of his penis and talked about making love to a 13-year-old. well, this time he's much more careful about what he says. but perverted justice explains why he is still dangerous. >> he is really definitely trying to gain confidence of the child and make her feel special and important, and in a lot of ways, the log isn't the most graphic but it is very sickening to read when you realize, it is total manipulation of a child. >> all through the chat, the 48-year-old sierras compliments the girl. >> you're the nicest girl i've chatted with in a long time. >> you're sweet. >> he says he wants to buy her flowers, clothes and chocolates. he even sends her a picture of
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an audio player he bought for her. >> here's the mp player you're getting. i hope you don't mind pink. >> you're kidding. >> but sierras also tells her, she is sexy, talks about her bra size and about what kind of underwear she has on. >> they're not thongs, are they? >> bikini. >> oh, those are hot. that would be cool if you could model them for me. >> he said he would like to spend the night with her and fondle and kiss her breasts. >> i bet they are so beautiful to just look at, let alone to touch and massage them. >> when the girl says she's visiting relatives in long beach, sierras offers to drive her down and give her a ride back home. >> yeah, we could even go to disneyland or magic mountain. >> wow! >> now the decoy is here in the park, waiting for him. >> i believe by doing that, he felt that he could also survey the area and see who else was around and what the chances were that this was a law enforcement operation. >> and in fact, the long beach
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police have the park surrounded. and we're there with our cameras. according to his chat, sierras is driving an suv. but suddenly, he drives up in a different vehicle and approaches the decoy. >> hey, i look this way because that's what i am so -- the conversation is hard to hear but he is clearly suspicious. the decoy's hair looks different from the online photos sierras saw. >> i dyed my hair. >> as i walk over to talk to him, he spots me and runs. >> he's running. >> the police make their move. >> get down! get down on the ground! get down on the ground! >> stop it. >> all right, all right. >> just do what we tell you. >> who are you? >> we're the police. >> frank, i'm chris hansen with "dateline nbc." >> oh. >> we're doing a story on guys who try to meet children online for sex. do you want to tell us anything about what you were doing in this chat with someone who identified themselves as a 13-year-old girl?
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>> sierras says nothing and is taken away to processing. >> in the car. watch your head. >> then police discover that instead of driving his suv, sierras rented this car, perhaps to throw the police off. they also find that pink mp 4 player sierras said he was bringing for the girl. >> maybe a little gift. >> yeah. maybe a little gift. >> and he was apparently in a hurry to get here. >> along with the directions, it looks like california highway patrol cited him for speeding. >> it turns out there is violence in sierras past. in 1987, he pleaded no contest to a charge of assault and served three months in prison. >> what kind of danger do you think would be present for a guy like this, taking a young girl for a ride that long on a trip that long? >> he could do anything and she would be powerless. she's away from people she knows
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and familiar locations. he could take her anywhere. >> later, sierras pleaded no contest to one count of an attempted lewd act on a child. see air ras' lawyer told us he has no comment. back at the house, 26-year-old robert williams is thinking about coming inside. >> hey, come on in. i made a couple drinks. >> williams is a truck driver who chatted online with someone who told him she was 11 years old. our youngest decoy ever. he sends a live web camera shot of himself while he is masturbating. apparently before he comes inside, williams wants to go back to his car? >> are you coming? >> but taking no chances, the police arrest him. >> what? >> put your hands up. long beach police, put your hands up. get down to your knees right now. >> williams later pleaded no
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contest to one count of attempted sex with a minor. >> send the decoy out. >> then there's this man. 32-year-old cory edgar. nicknamed rick. >> are you coming? come on. >> edgar, using the screen name ricks talented tongue, chatted online with a decoy who told him she was a 12-year-old girl. he tells her he is sending a picture of his penis. he asks if the girl has condoms and in graphic terms, if he can perform oral sex on her. but in the middle of the chat, he suddenly becomes suspicious. >> i have a strong feeling you're either undercover or a cop trying to set all the guys up. you hear about it all the time. >> you're insane. >> and he makes this declaration. >> i would never meet a female under 18 to do anything sexual. i am reporting you to yahoo. please leave me alone. >> is he just testing the waters to protect himself? whatever his intent, edgar doesn't leave the decoy alone and keeps chatting.
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just to be sure the girl is real, he says he wants to talk to her on the phone. perverted justice obliges and puts the decoy on the line with him. >> nobody's here. my parents are gone. >> in the end, he decides to come. but he's still not convinced. >> so what are you doing? >> not too much, i was just talking online. >> talking online? >> yeah. >> hmm. >> you can look around. come on in. >> where are you going? >> i'm just trying to walk. >> for the next few minutes, edgar can't decide whether he wants to stay or go. finally, he comes in. >> whatever. >> but spots our camera crew in the next room. >> you are a suspicious guy, rick. >> i told you there's people here. >> i want to speak with you for a minute. why don't you have a seat right over there. >> i wasn't planning on any of
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this. >> good, i want to hear the whole story. so come on over here and have a seat. you can tell me all about it. >> i might as well just -- my life's over. my life's over. >> rick, i've got some transcripts here of your conversation with this girl. >> i did not want this to happen. i did not do anything. >> all right. so let's clear the air. well, let me read to you the first line out of your mouth. hello, how are you doing? can i tease and please your blank with my tongue and make you blank over and over. right after that she tells you she's 12. >> and then i said you're a little too young. please -- >> right, you say i never knew a young female like yourself would like that. >> you're arresting me and everything. >> i'm not arresting you. >> they are. >> though he doesn't see them, edgar seems to know the police are outside. and that shouldn't be a surprise. remember, edgar sent this
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picture of what he said was his penis. >> that ain't mine. no. >> whose was it? >> i have no clue. that ain't mine. >> so you didn't send her or transmit or let her see -- >> it was a fake picture is what it was. >> but you transmitted it? >> yes. >> it may not have been you, but you transmitted a picture of somebody's genitals. >> yes, that's it. >> do you think that's appropriate behavior when talking to somebody who says she's 12 years olgd? >> no, it's not. read what i wrote to her this morning when she kept trying to get an older guy. this is wrong. i clearly said please leave me alone. do not message me. what does she keep doing? she keeps messaging me and trying to get an older guy to come over here. >> so it's her fault? >> no, it's not. >> blame the victim. >> it's not my fault. it's not her fault. >> not your fault, rick? you kept going with the conversation. >> i came here because i was going to get cigarettes, fill up my tank and then go fishing. >> what, you thought they sold cigarettes at this house?
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>> no, i did not. >> then why stop here if all you're going to do is get cigarettes and gas? >> it was wrong for me to stop here. >> come on, you've got to have some insight. >> i was going fishing. check my trunk. i have my fishing gear and my fishing licenses in my console. i was going fishing. >> sounds like what you were fishing for was sex with a 12-year-old girl is what you were fishing for. >> please, check my trunk. >> you told me already about getting gas and going fishing. >> who are you? >> who am i? i'm chris hansen with dateline nbc. we're doing a story on adults who try to meet children online for sex. now, if there's anything else you want to tell us, we'd be happy to hear it. if not, you're clearly free to walk right out the door you came in. >> i don't want to walk out the door. they're going to take me. they want me and you know it. >> is there anything else you want people to know about your situation? >> my life is screwed. i'm done. my family is done. they're waiting to arrest me. they're waiting to take me to jail.
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>> in fact, the long beach police are getting into position. >> staying here is not going to help you. >> i feel like i'm going to throw up. >> but, rick, it's not going to help you to stay here. rick? i'm serious. >> can i have a drink of this? >> if you'd like. >> rick, i think it's time to go. >> get on your knees! put your hands on your head. >> he later pleaded no contest to one count of an attempted lewd act upon a child. coming up, a wrap up of our long
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in our investigation in long beach, of the 38 men who were arrested, the district attorney decided to prosecute all but three. he told us that was because those three suspects either
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drove away or didn't come in when the decoy invited them. on top of that, the da said their online chats may not have been graphic enough to prove intent. under california law, atempbting to have sex with someone over the age of 14 is a felony, punishable by up to four years in prison. of those men who were charged, at least 12 of the men have pleaded no contest. they've been sentenced to probation ranging from three to five years. and some of those men will be permanently registered as sex offenders. >> find some guidelines on how to protect your kids. the address is! that's all for now. for all of us at nbc news, thanks for watching.


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