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good morning. i'm richard lui in for chris jansing. a judge upholds a law to show voter i.d.s at the polls. >> this is a huge ruling that could have an impact on the outcome of the 2012 election. a judge basically said that pennsylvania can go forward with a law that requires voters to bring a picture i.d. to the polls with them in november. the plaintiffs in this and critic across the country of these laws are saying this is going to disenfranchise a lot of democrats, poor voters, students, those without picture i.d.s. the idea of the law that the republicans put in place is to combat voter fraud, they say. but there's little evidence there has been much voter fraud
in these types of elections. so it's a huge issue. they also say it's not a burden to present a voter i.d. in a day in age where you have to use one to get into airports or other things. but the plaintiffs argue that this new law could lead to the disenfranchisement of hundreds of thousands of voters who don't have i.d.s. the main plaintiff is a 93-year-old widow who always voted all her life and says she can't get a proper photo i.d. because she can't get a proper birth certificate. it gets complicated, but they are saying this is a republican attempt to disenfranchise democratic voters in states like pennsylvania. there's a fight in florida as well. that's why this voter i.d. issue, which is so critical, could really affect the outcome of the election in november. >> ron, what might the opponents
do next after the ruling is going to come down? >> they are probably going to appeal. if there's any comfort in the ruling is the judge said that the legislature had the authority to put this law on the books. he didn't rule on the merits of the case whether the law is a good law or bad law or constitutional or not. so there may be an opening for them. there have been demonstrations in harrisburg, but this is one of many states where this issue is coming to the fore. it's going to become more hotly contested closer to november because the people who are fighting these laws like the aclu and others insist that this is a way that the republicans are trying to disenfranchise traditional democratic voters and it's going to go down to the wire. >> thank you, ron. now to our other top story. it's getting down right nasty. the campaign of big ideas has
turned into sniper fire. >> the president's campaign is all about division and attack and hatred. i think he will do anything in his power to get reelected. >> romney sharper tones started yesterday at a campaign stop in ohio. >> this is what an angry and desperate presidency looks like. his campaign and his surrogates have made wild and reckless accusations that disgrace the office of the presidency. >> then an obama campaign spokesman fired back saying governor romney's comments were unhinged and strange coming at a time when he's pouring tens of millions of dollars into negative ads. but it all started here with vice president joe biden. >> romney wants to -- he said in the first 100 guys days he's going to let the big banks write the rules. they are going to put you all back in chains.
>> well those words set off a fire storm of criticism from the right and biden later changed his language using the phrase in shackles. good morning to both of you. major, let's start with you. does this sound like an adult conversation to you? >> voters are going to make up their minds. i'm not part of this metaphor police. we're going to find out in the next ten days whether this is a blip or whether this is part of a larger conversation american voters want to have. there's one strategic insight you can glean from the romney campaign's reaction. and that is they have a systematic effort to try to take away and deprive from president obama which he had in 2008, which is a sense that he's about not only hope and change, but a different kind of politics that was practiced at a higher level
and one that was more aimed at bringing people together as opposed to dividing them. the romney campaigns wants to take that away from president obama and then shift back to his record on the economy. and that's why i think you have seen the tactical response from the romney campaign. they could have left this alone, but they are absolute ly about trying to take away the likability advantage that the president still has in the polls. >> jackie, we have heard unpresidential, those are some of the words. they said president had blood on his hands, and then he turned this around and said this on "the today show." >> i think it takes things to a new level. a level of just negativivety and i think it was a shameful comment. >> so what's you thought here? we're in august now. we have october in front of us. what's that's going to be like? >> it can only get worse. the idea this was going to be this high-minded debate was
d.o.a. if you look at how this campaign has gone so far, it wasn't all of a sudden they were going to put aside those things and say let's talk about policy. it doesn't seem it was on that trajectory to begin with. they used to care about the president's likability. he's a nice guy. he's not good at being president essentially. now you hear much tougher rhetoric and it's an obvious shift as far as from the romney campaign on this. >> and then on the president's side, this is what he said in iowa. >> over the next three months, you're going to see more tv advertising than you have ever seen in your life and almost all the ads are the same. the economy isn't where it needs to be and it's obama's fault. >> are they going to be able to take the president down? is he getting bogged down or can
he stay above this all? >> well, look. the president has to run on his record or run away from it or at least deal with it. the romney campaign, i have been often times sprietzed how little they have been engaging the president directly on his record. they have tried off and on, but they haven't had a systematic effort to engage the president on his record. maybe that will come at the convention. when i was in boston, they said that was coming. they led me to believe the next three weeks would be devoted to that. that's not how it's played out. maybe they are waiting to do that strategy down the road. what i do know is the president has a record. he has an economy he's not satisfied with and the the polling data suggests the people are not satisfied. the president is defying the gravity of the economic news around him. and the romney campaign has yet to bring him back closer to
earth. and i believe, and the polls reflect thrks the longer there's a conversation about what appear to be small issues and a lot of negativity that don't matter about the future policy of this country may benefit the president because it's not closer to a hard-edged debate about his actual record and what to do in the future. >> major, jackie, stand by. the romney campaign just rolled out an ad hitting the president over medicare. look at this. >> you paid into medicare for years. every paycheck. now when you need it obama has cut $716 billion from medicare. why? to pay for obama care. the romney/ryan plan protects seniors and strengthens the plan for the next generation. >> i want to bring in the president of aarp. nancy, thanks for joining us. you saw that ad and listened to it with us now. do you think the ads will
convince seniors it's the president cutting medicare? >> i think what it's going to do is elevate the issue of medicare in this debate. we launched an initiative in march called "earn to say." this was focused on bringing the debate about medicare and social security out from behind closed doors in washington and to the american people. we have been hosting sessions around the country, our aarp volunteers have had meetings with members and voters of all ages in senior centers, coffee houses and universities to talk about these issues. we're delighted it's at the top of the agenda. we hope that it won't just be discussed in 30-second ads and that, in fact, voters will be able to hear precisely what both the president and governor romney plan to do if elected with medicare. >> along with those two
principles, you also have paul ryan and his pick. when the question comes up about what he stands for, when the question comes up about his budget plan and its tie to medicare, what are you telling your members about paul ryan and that selection? >> well, again, as part of this "earn to say" initiative that we have been conducting for a number of months now, we have e been talking to voters about the programs medicare and social security, listening to them about their concerns, how important these programs are, and now we're in a phase of talking with them about the wide range of options that have been discussed in washington over the last few months for strengthening medicare over the long-term. >> what about the paul ryan pick though? are they addressing that question to you? >> yes. one of the options that we're discussing is premium support, which was part of the republican budget plan. and it's an important conversation. older voters, as you know,
people over the age of 50 will be 4 out of every 10 voters in the battleground states. they are anxious to hear about these issues. we release d a poll last week that showed that medicare and social security are increasingly important issues, not just to current seniors, but especially to those still in the workforce between the ages of 50 to 64. they have a lot of economic anxiety and know these issues will be important to them down the line. >> nancy, thank you for your time. i want to bring back jackie wells major gerrit. jackie, i want to go back to something mitt romney said this morning. >> my campaign made it clear. the president's cuts of $716 billion to medicare, those cuts are going to be restored if i become president and paul ryan becomes vice president. >> jackie, put that together along with what we were hearing
from nancy where she's getting questions from aarp members. how clear has he been about this? >> well, i mean, i think there's some concern in the romney campaign because of the ryan budget and the ryan medicare plan. there's definitely some concern. and the last couple days, we have seen him say there's no daylight, there's some. there isn't really a plan from the romney campaign about this. we'll see what happens. but there has to be some concern there because seniors, you know, are concerned about this. exactly what nancy was saying. >> and major, that lack of clarity or the clarity he says he has had, he's also trying to emphasize that paul ryan is his running mate and he's also saying they are running on his plan, on romney's plan. does he need to get more specific about his plan is different than the ryan plan? >> i think it's a very big question the romney campaign has
yet to answer. they are going to have to answer for this fundamental reason. the ryan plan is not just well known among house and senate republicans, it's also known in washington and around the country that it's a different approach to medicare. you receive a voucher from the government and you purchase your own private insurance. it's a completely different format. that's the way we do it now and as nancy said, this anxiety among seniors are not just among those 65 and older, but those approaching the age because in this recession, there's been prolonged unemployment. a lot of people have had to dip into their savings. so what people hear from the obama campaign and from republicans may stick more tightly until they hear a better explanation.
>> jackie, how does romney have his cake and eat it too? how does he take the advantages of paul ryan without the issues we have been discussingover the overhang of his budget plan? >> they have to release their own plan. that's the only way that you're able to incorporate paul ryan's policy know-how into something that isn't as -- doesn't change medicare as much. we don't know. all it is right now is speculation. and until they put out something concrete, that's the only way. >> jackie, major, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> my pleasure. >> an extra three days of early voting can swing an election. today a federal court hears the first lawsuit filed by the obama campaign over this issue. democrats want three days added while the law cuts three days from most voters. well who said breakfast. on a tuesday. can't be special. get that great taste anytime. with kingsford match light charcoal
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it's a landmark day for hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants. today they can start applying for temporary work permits under the obama administration's deferred action initiative. it gives a two-year reprieve to young people brought to the united states illegally when they were under 16. i'm joininged by jose diaz ballard. 1.8 million people. what does this mean for latino voters? >> imagine that those brought here through no fault of their own, and find out as they progress in life and want to get a driver's license and want to see how to consider their studies, they parents say even though you may not know another country, you're not from here and don't have any rights.
think about the eflkt it has for their families. it tells them for two years you will not have to fear looking over your shoulder everywhere you go, any time you leave the house it won't be an act of fear because you cannot be deported for something that your parents did. it's fascinating i. one of the great things in this country is you can never be convicted for the crimes of your parents. except if you're a dreamer. so if your parents steal money, you can't be put in jail for that. but if you're a dreamer, you do serve the consequences of your parent. >> jose, is this enough? will latino voters say, all right the president fulfilled the promises he said. >> he said if the president got the presidency within 100 days in the first year, he would have
comprehensive immigration reform. that did not happen. so our polls show that 70% of latinos support the president, but will there be an incentive to go vote? >> the national polling, which you watch long with us, is definitely favoring president obama. he's leading by 40 points. george will said if romney doesn't hit the magic number of 31% of the latino vote, he will not be elected. what's your take? >> my take is that the republicans need to have some latino support. 50.4 million latinos in this country. more could vote in 2012. that's a big chunk of america's voting population. let's see what he does from today when both he and ryan in
the past been opposed to the dream act. ryan voted against it. romney said he would veto it as president. they are changing their tune. let's see what tune they are changing to. >> let's talk three states we have to talk about. there's basically a tier one of states. colorado, florida and nevada. if latino turnout goes up in those three states, obama wins the election. >> most effected by the foreclosure crisis. most affected by latino unemployment. in the united states, it's 10.3%. in those states it's much higher. at the final analysis people worry about their kids and their kids' future and if they are going to have a job. that's priority number one. >> okay. again, we were noting this entire conversation today because of dreamers. 1.8 million. >> such an important day.
>> great to see you. you can catch jose sitting in today for tamron hall at 2:00 p.m. stick around for that. results of races to tell you about. it's a cliff hanger this morning. staerns is not giving up. and wisconsin voters gave a victory to former governor tommy thompson who is running for the senate seat. he defeated three conservatives that divided the tea party votes there. and in connecticut, linda mcman wins against christopher shays. at purina one, we believe small things can make a big difference. like how a little oil from here can be such a big thing in an old friend's life. we discovered that by blending enhanced botanical oils into our food, we can help brighten an old dog's mind
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power. you can't drive a car with a windmill on it. now i don't know if he's actually tried that. i know he's had other things on his car. >> conservatives meanwhile are launching a new ad campaign around the bush tax cuts. >> liberals don't understand how to create jobs and fix our economy. >> yg network is buying the ads and targeting selected districts. could chelsea clinton follow in her parent's footsteps? she says, maybe. "if so if there were to be a point where it was something i felt called to do and i didn't think there was someone who was sufficiently committed to building a healthier, more just, more equitable, more productive world then that would have to be a question i'd ask and answer." when it comes to beer, president obama might be the brewer in chief. he talked about how the white house produces two different kinds of beer, light and dark. the label on one reads "white
house honey brown" and comes from michelle obama's garden. and paul ryan has given a boost to p90x. another convert could be mitt romney. >> i have never tried that. i might have him show me how to do it some day. i get on the elliptical or the treadmill or stationary bike about 40 minutes and that's about it for me. but he's in pretty darn good shape. >> president obama's focused on one state. spending more time there than any other. the state that could determine our next president. the home of steve jobs was robbed, but wait until we tell you the details and what was in steve's wallet, next. 's home sey gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less?
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president's longest visit to any state so far in his campaign. nbc news political editor do min comontanaro joins us. he won iowa by ten points in '08, but recent polls now show he's running neck and neck. what's happening in iowa that's concerning to the president? >> republicans had the landscape all to themselves in iowa for about a year. they ran their gop primary to push that message for about a year. that's given the obama campaign something they have to be concerned over because now they have to walk this uphill climb, as the president tries to gain back some of the momentum he's lost from 2008. >> there's some math behind that. >> no question about it. when you look at the importance of iowa, only 6 electoral votes,
but you have 6 plus h1n1's new hampshire's four. suddenly that pits the president over the 270 number. he wouldn't have to win virginia, north carolina, ohio or florida and could still get over the edge. >> there's also symbolic importance for the president. there's his caucus win in 2008 that was pivotal during the last election. it's also a state he visited right after announcing his reelection plans. >> this is a state that has some symbolic importance, but make no mistake, this is about hard poll numbers, the battle map and that's why you see the president there for three days. >> what are some of the key issues that could sway the vote in iowa? >> we heard the president try to push the wind tax credit.
subsidies for wind power. mitt romney is against it, as are many in the tea party. but republicans in the state governor terry branstad -- iowa has 15% senior population. paul ryan had to talk down some protesters about medicare. so seniors going to be interesting to see how it plays out. the romney campaign is on offense. >> one of the testing grounds for senior voters. thanks so much. women voters in iowa and around the nation will play a major role in determining the outcome. mitt romney has a lot of ground to cover if he wants to cut into president obama's lead into the women vote. a new poll gave the president a 15-point edge. could romney's selection of paul ryan help him win over more
women voters? we're joined by karen floyd and by nera tandon. thank you both for joining us today. paul ryan has brought some energy certainly and some enthusiasm to the romney campaign that we saw over the weekend. does this help with women voters? >> you know, i found it to be a very surprising choice in that regard. because, you know, it's true. mitt romney does have significant ground to catch up on with women voters. poll after poll has shone him to have a doesn't-digit loss. what's surprising about the ryan selection is that it really seems to double down on the problems that women see with this candidacy. it's not just the issue of choice where paul ryan has an even more extreme view and choice than mitt romney. he believes women should not
have access to abortion, even in the case of rape and incest, but it's a whole group of issues. it undermines support for families on basic issues like access to college and seniors with medicaid. those are the decisions that women make in their families. those are the costs that women are struggling with. the decision to go with ryan is going to hurt mitt romney with women voters. >> ryan also voted at least four times to defund planned parenthood. he cosponsored a bill giving fertilized egg rights of personhood. will this affect the women vote? >> absolutely not. we're delighted with this selection of paul ryan. let me tell you about what really is happening in america. 61% of all americans think we're on the wrong track. 15.5% of women have an increase in joblessness rate.
so there's a real focus on the economy and here are two people that are focused on building jobs, creating jobs. these are people that bring solutions. these are people that are really focused on what americans all are focused at. i'm the publisher of a digital magazine for conservative republican women. and interestingly in the last two days, we have had more 18 to 29-year-olds that are excited about the new leadership. excited about governors like governor hailey and martinez, excited about the republican party and how we're building a face of women that understand that if we don't leave a legacy for our children, we will be lost as a nation. >> neera, will women voters pull the lever on the economy just like every other voter, as what karen is saying there? >> i actually think this selection moves this on to
medicare. what i found most interesting about what karen just said is she named three women gop leaders who mitt romney refused to go with as a vp candidate in order to select paul ryan. i think that says a lot about where this party is. it's not even that you expect paul ryan to be an advocate on these issues because you're looking to other women to be those stars. so i think that she's really making the point. >> and to your point here, karen to you, could have mitt romney chosen a running mate that would have made more end roads with women voters. condoleeza rice was one candidate being discussed. >> absolutely not. you're presupposing that the election or the nomination of a woman is somehow going to propel other women to vote. you take a look at the history,
the electorate history it doesn't work that way. people want to put individuals back to work. and frankly, they picked someone, governor romney has picked someone that has a known history. someone that served on ways and means and created a budget. whether you like it or not, this is someone that created a solution and put it forward to america. that's tremendous. at the end of the day, women will rise or fall on their own merits and the selection by governor romney speaks well to the fact we need to solve the economic challenges of our country today. >> karen floyd, neera tandon, thank you for your time. crews are trying to stop a huge wildfire in washington state. >> give me some more! pull it! >> the bridge fire has burned up to 70 homes and buildings with many more threatened. some residents have tried to dig
their own containment lines. officials in texas are spraying for mosquitoes know that 16 people have died from the virus. 700 people have been infected in 32 states. west nile is spreading faster because of the mild winter. a break in at the home of the late steve jobs. mandi drury is here. >> would you believe in an ironic twist of fate through his itunes account. he used the stolen devices to connect it after the break in on july 17th. so apple investigators were able to identify him using an i.p. address. he confessed and wrote an apology letter to jobs' widow. but it was so easy for him to get in. the home was being renovated. he found the spare key and went
inside. he just grabbed iphones, ipads, then found jobs' wallet. but he took his driver's license and police also said he snatched about $60,000 worth of tiffany jewelry and champagne and also a blender. it's an amazing story. >> famously, steve jobs house is not in a secluded community so very accessible. another thing you're watching for us, this is something we thought we'd end the summer with, low gas prices. >> it's quite amazing. people are now saying it could be the most expensive ever in terms of a year to fill up. so the current national average is $3.71 a gallon. that's up 31 cents since mid-july. and although prices should have peaked by now, prices are likely to continue climbing through august and people suggest little relief after labor day.
2012's average has become $3.61 a gallon versus last year which was $3.51. last year was the most expensive ever. that's kind of what people say is the threshold in terms of people pulling back on consumer spending. >> mandy drury, always great to see you. religion is still huge in the world of politics. the presidential candidate who has won the catholic vote has won the the election with the exception of al gore in 2000. both joe biden and paul ryan are catholics. will they help win votes in these religious cities? of all u.s. cities, pittsburgh is the fifth most religious followed by memphis, then oklahoma city, birmingham, alabama, and at number one, salt lake city where 73% of people call themselves religious. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol
total knee and hip replacement surgery may increase your risk for heart attack. the chances for a heart attack were strongest in the two weeks after surgery with a smaller chance remaining for up to six weeks. the risk is only associated with patients over 80 years old. more than half the country is experiencing the worst drought in half a century. its impact could soon be felt by all americans as food prices begin to soar. janet has more for us. >> richard, good morning to you.
the impact of the drought is moving beyond farms and ranches and into the grocery store costing families hundreds of dollars more. but experts are saying those increases could be impacting us before the end of this year. it's already withered corn crops, cracked the earth and sent ranchers scrambling to feed their herds. the next stop for this year's record drought is the nation's grocery stores. >> i think we're going to see price increases across the board because corn, in particular, is such a ewe bik away us to product. it's used in the production of most foods. >> that means price hikes dun every aisle on serial and chips. but animal-based perishable foods expected to be hardest hit. . beef, dairy and pork will increase anywhere from 3.5% to
5% next year. >> i would try to find the best price i could because we don't have a lot of extra money to spend on things like groceries. >> reporter: for a family of four, the price hikes will add an extra $615 to their annual grocery bill. >> i will be careful to have no waste and be careful what i buy. >> experts predict shoppers will use more coupons and switch to cheaper items to try to beat the rising cost of feeding a family. we suppose to an economist to see if there's anything you can hedge against what's coming. there are small things, but you are not going to buy your milk in a year in advance. so this is just going to be a fact of life for american families. >> thank you. i'm joined by jennifer stein. thank you for being here.
you wrote an article on the political impact of the drought. we looked at how it affected families across the country. the house and senate left town for the august recess. what were some of the sticking points. >> the senate passed a bipartisan measure that made large cuts to programs and changed the direct payments which have been controversial in the bill. they were unable to get the house to come along because the house chs not able to bring to the floor because of a fear of failure. it didn't make enough cuts to appease the ends of the republicans and democrats were unhappy about cuts in food stamp programs which was also part of the farm bill. they did leave town without being able to resolve that. >> 83 days until many of the house members have to face this issue if their state is being affected by that. the farmers in the heartland states specifically hammering these congress members over in action.
will this be a pivotal issue in the race in november? >> it's interesting this issue rose to the presidential level when president obama went to iowa to campaign and talked about the farm bill. of course, he used it to talk about paul ryan and how he was a member of the house where they have not passed a farm bill. they did pass a short-term measure that would give relief to some producers, but the senate opt ed not to pick up tht measure because they are waiting on an agreement on a broader farm bill. but in the heartland, a lot of farmers and people in the farm bureau who may not be following the particulars of the legislative dynamics know there's no farm bill and no relief. >> like minnesota and missouri and so many other states. there's also this bus tour, the president now in iowa today. the president, as you know, announcing the government's plan to buy some $170 million worth of food to try to help these suffering farmers. is this issue going to make it up into the presidential debate
when it comes to november? >> well, you know, the farm bill represents a lot of the die nyns and a lot of the fights that have been happening in congress this entire year. there's the dynamic of republicans wanting to cut more from spending that has been cut from some of the bills that were usually bipartisan in years and democrats pushing up against this. this farm bill represents the inherent argument on everything that has to do with the economy. in that sense, it's a huge choice for voters in every aspect of their lives. >> we'll see if it's one of those issues will be brought up commonly during the race as we move towards november. jennifer, thank you. in our next hour, the mighty mississippi has been severely affected by the drought with water levels so low it's devastating the local economy. we're also seeing a lot of pictures driving home the drought's devastation. yesterday president obama toured
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an explosive situation. trouble on the runway. and we have a job for you. but first -- a fire works display went horribly wrong on monday. the display went off at once in a church bell tower. however, the bad part is 28 people were injured. the rockets ignited the fuses there. two planes collided yesterday with one ending up on top of the other. it's being called a towing mishap with no passengers on board. a local paper reports one plane belongs to bank of america. the olympics may be over but team great britain still fired
up and going viral. ♪ >> that's the team. it's lip syncing to queen's "don't stop me now." the u.s. swim team made a viral video to the tune of "call me maybe." that wraps up this hour. i'm richard lui. thomas roberts is up next. good morning. topping our agenda, breaking news this morning from pennsylvania. a big blow to those trying to stop a strict voter i.d. law. could it swing this battleground state mitt romney's way? plus the obama administration plans to fight ohio's early voting law in court. then chain reaction over comments joe biden made on the campaign trail. is the outrage real and which side is spreading the hate? plus the cycle hosts are back with their vp power
[ female announcer ] neosporin® plus pain relief starts relieving pain faster and kills more types of infectious bacteria. neosporin® plus pain relief. for a two dollar coupon, visit neosporin.com. romney want said the first 100 days he's going to let the big banks write their own rules. they are going to put you all back in chains. >> good morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. topping the agenda, hate, heated rhetoric and the heated campaign. joe biden draws fast and furious fire after telling an audience that mitt romney's policies would put them back in chains and that set off a chain reaction after rip iping into biden's remarks late yesterday.