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bill to resolve a serious problem confronting the american traveling bl and our economy. >> thousands of flights were delayed this week because of the sequester and angry passengers and voters were vocal. pilots, even, blaming government officials over airline pa systems. now, the bill essentially moves money around, shifting $253 million from other parts of the department of transportation budget to the faa. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist dana milbank and the "national journal's" editorial director, ron fournier. good morning, gentleman. >> good morning. >> so i guess good news if you're getting on a plane, dana, like many members of congress are. air traffic controllers, i expect, if this goes through the house, will be back on the job by next week. but is this just another short-term washington fix for a much bigger problem? >> well, chris, i have mixed feelings about this, as somebody who's going to fly out of town this weekend. this is very good news. but as somebody who's watching the way policy is made here in
washington, this kind of ad hoc arrangement is pretty crazy. and i think the administration made some political concession here that, okay, they've satisfied this one problem here, but, you know, what they're doing is they're making it appear that they can just wave a magic wand and all of a sudden these budget cuts don't mean anything at all. and that's just not the case. and there are going to be all kinds of other budget cuts that they're not waving the magic wand for that maybe don't impact people in this sort of immediate way that are going to be very harmful over the long-term. >> to that point, let me read the white house statement or at least part of it. "we hope congress will find the same sense of urgency and bipartisan cooperation to help the families who have had children kicked out of head start, the seniors who have lost access to meals on weals, the hard-working employees who have have been laid off due to defense cuts, and the 750,000 americans who have lost a job or won't fine one because of the sequester by acting on a balanced deficit reduction plan like the one the president has proposed."
so, ron, i guess if the delayed flights are what people are most angry about or most vocal about right at this moment, is the urgency to do a bigger deal gone now? >> well, you know, i find that ironic, that statement, coming from the white house, which is absolutely right. but that's the same white house that signed the sequestration bill. this bill is so outrageous, it was so -- it was intentionally supposed to be absurd it would never get done and force both sides to come to deal. that never happened. so we have these short-term fixes for things that only affect the lawmakers themselves and, you know, that are obviously a public issue. and there's other people who are still struggling. and you have, like susan collins, standing up there saying, oh, we came together and we solved things. well, why don't you solve the bigger problem instead of just doing short-term fixes like this. >> i want to bring in senator bill nelson, democrat from florida. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> well, i guess you can add me to the list of people who on a personal level is flying this
weekend. so on that level, i'm happy, i guess, about this. but is the message from this bill that people who lost their jobs because of the sequester, kids who got kicked out of head start, seniors who won't get meals on wheels are less important than travelers who need to get to their destinations on time? >> the message is awful. we are balled up in this ideological rigidity and excessive partisanship and it's very hard to build consensus to do the common sense thing. and what you just said is the common sense thing. we shouldn't have a sequester in the first place. >> then why did everybody vote for it? >> because a year and a half ago, the government was going into default. and that's what the republican house insisted on. and last march, the government was going into default again. and that's what the republican house insisted on. and if we get out of this partisanship and ideological
stances and do the common sense thing in moderation, what by far the vast majority of americans want their government to work, they want people to work together. but you see what's going on. and if you hear frustration in my voice, it's real. >> but doing this kind of ad hoc arrangement, does it make it less likely that the larger problem will get dealt with. in other words, this seems, to some people, like two things, frankly. the squeaky wheel gets the grease. people were complaining. and number two, senators and members of the house are all flying home this weekend, you've got a week's vacation, so they did something about it. >> you hit it on the head. >> all right. let me talk to you about some other issues and there's a lot going on. what's happening in boston, particularly, in the bombing case. this morning, dzhokhar tsarnaev was moved the from a hospital to a federal prison specializing in
patients with medical issues. but we're also learning that the tsarnaev brothers planned on targeting new york city next. let's play what mayor michael bloomberg said yesterday. >> the attacks in boston and the news that new york city was next on the terrorist's lists shows just how critical it is for the federal government to devote resources to high-risk areas. >> you were on the budget committee, senator. are you concerned about the money available to deal with terrorism, or is the bigger problem the way that money is being spent, given the criticism, for example, about information sharing? >> of course i'm concerned. and the one part of the budget that is getting the increases, even with this idiot idea of a sequester is the intelligence community. and i don't think that you will see that that will be cut back on. >> you don't think it will be cut back on. do we need to look at the way
that systems are organized right now and the way the money that there is there is spent? >> of course, we do. but by and large, this was a system that worked. and the fbi and all law enforcement responded very well. and, you know, this stuff about russia warned us, well, we inquired of russia several time, and russia didn't respond. so the fbi and our intelligence community was all over this. >> there are also a lot of questions this morning about syria as well. you're on the armed services committee too. if a red line has been crossed when it comes to chemical weapons, well, i guess the first question is, do you think it has, or if it has, or when it is crossed, what action, if any, do you think the u.s. should take? >> it probably has. we don't know the extent to which it has. but the fact is that he has
chemical weapons and they're deployed. now, what to do about it? that becomes a lot more complicated. first of all, we ought to do it in cooperation with our allies and the immediate ones in the vicinity are jordan, turkey, and israel. and then what we do is a lot more difficult. we're not going to put 75,000 boots on the ground. will we go in and bomb? well, what do you bomb? do you bomb the planes that have the saren on it so you get a blo plume and then the wind carries it? it's a little nor difficult. maybe you bomb the runways and create craters so their planes can't take off. >> and whatever we do sends a message to iran and whatever our resolve to make sure these governments are acting appropriately, whether it's syria and chemical weapons or iran and their nuclear programs, that there are consequences,
when we say, this is not acceptable, we're willing to put some sort of action behind it. >> well, we have the resolve, but it's a little more complicated. there's a syrian opposition, but there's a part of that opposition that is affiliated with al qaeda. and so, what you want to do is to make sure the assistance that you're getting, and i think you'll see that forthcoming in much greater quantities now, but you want to make sure it gets to the right guys, not the wrong guys. >> and let me ask you one final question. and it's something everybody is talking about. are you running for governor in florida? >> no, ma'am. i have no intention. i've got my hands full as senator. >> are you ruling it out? >> i said what i said. >> are you still considering it, senator? >> look, i have no plans to run for governor. i have no intention of running for governor. i love this job as senator, except i am very, very frustrated as we have discussed
this morning that we can't get anything done, because you can't get people together to build consensus. >> you know, as we're watching the number of democrats who are walking away and there seems to be some combination, senator, of age, but also of frustration, do you think it's going to be harder to retain people in the senate and in the house as well, and also to recruit talented people to be a part of it? >> because of the frustration, the answer to your question is yes. but, you know, i feel like i'm just getting cranked up. i'm going to give it everything i have and try to bring people together. use the model of how we run the aging committee. i'm the chairman, the ranking republican is susan collins. the two of us run the committee together, and that's the way the senate ought to be run. >> senator bill nelson, always good to have a chance to talk to you. thanks so much for coming on the program. >> thanks, chris. >> i want to go back to what's happening in boston. there are a lot of questions, including something that was
raised by the house intelligence chairman, mike rogers, yesterday. he says that the judge in this case rushed in to mirandize dzhokhar, before the fbi was done talking to him. >> to have the court affirmatively push their way in is, a, i think it's wrong, and b, we should have given the fbi the time that they needed, given the circumstances of someone in the hospital, who is in and out of consciousness and on and off medication, for the doj not to push back, the attorney's office. they have a lot of explaining to do. >> the fbi and justice department say that after 16 hours of interrogation, they felt time was running out. what does this mean, you know, in the grand scheme of things, do you think, dana? it seems like there was some question about what it means to invoke the public safety exception. what it means to be an enemy combatant, all these years after 9/11. >> well, in a way, the whole
argument is silly. you've got a whole team of monday morning quarterbacks there in the house of representatives. but, in the big picture, everybody knew this guy wasn't going to be tried as an enemy combatant. he wasn't going to be isn't down to gitmo. it was very easy to convict him in the federal court. and it was also becoming very clear that he wasn't part of some larger network. so they just got it over with. the more they can get away from that whole military tribunal system and the quicker they can get away from it, the better the united states going to look at home and abroad. >> the other question that remains out there, ron, and you know, you heard one side of it just there from senator nelson is communication. what did the fbi know and when, should there be more follow-up? should there have been more interagency communication? and even some concerns about when they knew that these bombers were thinking about coming next to new york and how long it took to notify the mayor and the police chief here, ron.
i guess there is this question about how much urgency you feel there on the hill to have hearings about all of this, to clarify some of these issues. >> you know, i think we have to be careful here. we obviously, the american people don't want, it would be easy to turn this into a political football. we shouldn't have second-gue second-guessing just for the sake of second-guessing, but there are always lessons to be learned when something terrible like this happens, and at times, people do need to be held accountable. i think we need to get to the bottom of, and it's congress' job to do this with the oversight authority, what did we know and when did we know it? what did the russians tell us? why didn't we keep eyeballs on this guy? not to hang anybody out the dry or have a witch hunt or to embarrass the president and his mirp administration, but to learn frit. because these are the type of incidences we are very vulnerable to now. we have been since 9/11. it's remarkable it didn't happen
sooner. we're not going to be able to stop everything, but we can learn from every mistake we mistake and every tragedy that happens. >> dana, what are you hearing? are we going to start seeing some hearings when they come back from break? >> there's no question that they're going to have hearings. that's what they specialize in doing here is second-guessing and asking questions. now, there are questions and then there are questions, legitimate ones to be asked about was the fbi communicating with the cia. and i think people aring with responsible and saying, they just don't know. then there are things that are just more political saying, why didn't they alert new york that these guys were interested in them. does it take some sort of huge news flash to know that terrorists were interested in new york. it's not like they were going to target kansas city or something that would be a surprise to somebody. >> dana milbank, ron fournier, thank to both of you. >> thank you. jill biden says the battle for gun control legislation is not over yet. this week the vp met with a group of gun control activists and said the white house is not giving up. he compared last week's senate
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right now, members of the house are being briefed on the situation in syria. we did see secretary of state john kerry walking in just about half an hour ago. the big question, should the u.s. get more involved in syria now that the white house believes the syrian government used chemical weapons? here's defense secretary chuck hagel. >> the u.s. intelligence community assesses with some degree of varying confidence that the syrian regime has used chemical weapons on a small scale in syria.
specifically, the chemical agent sarin. >> joining me now, former u.s. ambassador to morocco, mark ginsburg. good to see both of you. so john kerry says it looks like these weapons were used twice, once in aleppo and one in damascus. but at what point does the evidence become overwhelming? it's too thin right now? >> one is the actual use of the weapons, but more importantly, who used the weapons and how were they used? i think the central question for the u.s. government in determining its future actions is was this an order given by the government in damascus. was this a game-changing tactic by the regime in desperation, or was this simply a weapon that fell into the hands of a rogue military unit or some group affiliated with the regime, and did they use it in their own way, outside of the chain of command. i think these are central questions in determining whether the united states takes any steps going forward. >> where do you think we are in answering that question,
ambassador? >> i couldn't agree more with how ayman just set this up as an assessment. but let's be clear. syria is awash in blood. whether or not the red line has been crossed, the question ultimately is, can we really do anything ultimately to affect the change? people have been killed, over 80,000 people have been killed through rocket attacks, missile attacks, and to say that a red line has been crossed because a country that has been awash in chemical weapons, it is the largest cache of chemical weapons in the middle east, how we are ever going to secure it and whether or not in the end, by doing so, we can accelerate and overthrow the regime is the key. i am for more interested in not what we do unless it accelerates an end to the conflict. i am not in favor of boots on the ground. and our credibility at this point in time has been ruined by the syrian people. so if we do nothing to fulfill the commitments here in a way that is expeditious to get the regime changed and to hold assad criminally responsible for those
acts, our credibility has gone down the tubes with the syrian people. >> let me give a little perspective and play what the president had to say about all of this last august. >> we have been very clear to the assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is, we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. that would change my calculus. that would change my equation. >> there is also a political reality here. is there -- at a time when we're getting out of afghanistan and iraq, and that money, we know how much money was spent there, is there the political will to do that? we know what happened with wmds. we've been talking a lot about the fact that wmds were never found because of the bush library being dedicated. and so the political calculus of this is really complicated. >> there's no doubt about it. in fact, arab foreign ministers are in washington, d.c., the president is meeting king
abdullah of jordan. the thing that comes out of the arab world right now is they want the united states to help in putting an end to this conflict. the problem, though, ises there a crisis of credibility because of the lasting legacy of the iraq war in that part of the world. when you go through what the united states experienced and the legacy of that made against the claims of there being weapons of mass destruction, right now when there are clear signs that there are weapons of mass destruction being used in syria, when there are 80,000 civilians that have been killed, there's a reluctance on the u.s. to get involved, and that has created this paralysis that is now being exploited by the syrian government to continue ahead with the killing of the people there. and there's an international stalemate. keep in mind, when the united states has tried to go through the united nations, russia has blocked all attempts in trying to resolve this conflict from that point. and that's why we see this conflict still spiraling out of control. >> well, could you, ambassador, use the libyan model and what happened with moammar gadhafi. do you become part of a larger coalition? do you limit the -- what you do
as part of an overall plan? >> yes. the agonizing incrementalism of u.s. foreign policy has got us into this mess that we're in right now. ultimately, the question is, not a question of whether or not something can be done, the question is whether there's a willpower on the part of the white house to finally recognize that it cannot permit the assad regime to believe that it now can use chemical weapons against its public with impunity. it's bad enough what happened before, but if they're able to start using chemical weapons knowing the west is not going to be able to act, you're going to see the most horrific photos coming out of syria, because this regime will do as much as possible to kill as many people as possible and get away with it as long as it knows that the west is not going to act against it. >> it's going to be interesting to hear what that conversation is going to be like. because in jordan, you have a situation where how many refugees have come over the border? >> over 175,000 are sitting right now in camps in jordan.
i just was with the king of jordan in washington the other day. the amount of agonizing humanitarian challenges on turkey's border with syria, iraq's border. we're talking over a million refugees who are now just on the borders and over 3 million who are refugees in syria. >> what is the conversation going to be like with king abdullah? >> there's also an irony, in that the united states has tried to keep this a sirrion conflict. this is no longer a syrian conflict. weapons are coming in from outside countries, russia is supporting the regime. you've got extreme u.s. fighters coming in. it is no longer a syrian conflict. it is a regional conflict. and the fear that it was going to spill over has spilled over. there's an irony in that for the past two areas, those that have been advocating a lack of intervention or lack of action have been saying they don't want this conflict to spread and here we are, two years on, and it has spread. i just saw the map that came up on the screen and it pretty much shows the entire middle east. >> ayman mohyeldin, thanks for
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we've been watching members of the house coming o you have a meeting with john kerry, the secretary of state, about syria. there's a bank of microphones set up and a lot of cameras. we saw nancy pelosi out there as well, but so far, no one has talked to talk about what they've learned inside that meeting. we'll keep you posted on that. to other politics now, where president obama is back in washington right now after another difficult night of condolences. he spoke at a service in waco, honoring the 14 victims of last week's fertilizer plant explosion, pledging the nation's support to help rebuild after the disaster.
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amendments will be made public on the website before those markups can begin. joining me now, former rnc chairman michael steele and democratic strategist, marji omara. so politico says the predictions of majority support from republicans and democrats is a more ambitious goal, michael, than any members have previously stated. do you think they're right to be so confident? >> yeah, i think they are. i think that as irony would have it, you know, we thought guns would lead the way and immigration would fall by the wayside, given the, you know, the personalities and the intentions around the subject of immigration, but the reverse really seems to be the case. immigration has a new, fresh momentum. you've got a markup date set, amendments are going to be put in place, it's going to be public, it's going to be viral, and i think it's all due to the fact that the party recognizes it's time to get off their duff and get something done on this, because they're losing by the moment. and certainly, each month, with 50,000 new hispanics, 50,000
hispanic youth turning 15 each month, the opportunity to capture a new generation of voters. >> well, at the same time, there is a feeling that the senate needs 70 to put pressure on the house. there's this new "washington post" article, big headline today, about house conservatives wanting to push their own immigration agenda. i'm going to read from it. "the announcement was the latest indication of a widening battle among republicans over what to do about the country's immigration system and marks perhaps the most serious political challenge to emerge." marji, how serious do you see this challenge? >> well, i guess we shouldn't be too surprised that there are going to be house republicans who are going to sabotage their own party's efforts to try to bring more voters along and try to have some bipartisan cooperation, but i also think it's a mistake to just think of this as a necessity to appeal to latino voters. because if you look at 2012 exit polls, two-thirds of americans said that folks who are undocumented currently should be offered a chance for
citizenship. 40% of mitt romney's voters, this is not just about appealing to latino voters, americans want this. americans around the country want this. and to look at it a that way, i think, may add to these issues. another thing, too, republicans, overwhelmingly, support the gang of 8's proposals, which are designed for real bipartisan support. it's not blanket amnesty. there's a 13-year waiting period. people need to learn english. it's really designed to bring folks together across the aisle. and about 80% of republicans support a lot of these measures. so it really will be a mistake for republicans to see, this is an opportunity to be divisive, because that's not what the american people want. >> michael, part of the conservative strategy seems to be, draw this out. allow more time for the opposition to build and for them to put more pressure on marco rubio. >> oh, i think you're right there. i think you see even in the senate, with a ted cruz, sort of making a different sound on this
subject, i see all this, chris, quite frankly, as a little bit of posturing, sort of feeding something to the base. i think at the end of the day, their going to work toward that goal, the gang of 8, of getting 70 votes in the senate. they want to put the pressure on the house. you can clang your symbols all you want, but at the end of the day, you're going to line up and vote for this thing. because not only as it's just pointed out is it the thing the american people want, but it's good politics and begins to turn the narrative for the party. you'll see two strategies unfold here, almost simultaneously, where you'll have the senate framing the argument and pushing it, a little pushback against conservatives in the house, but in the end, we'll all wind up on the same page and it will get passed. >> it was also interesting to me that yesterday at the bush library dedication, where there had been a lot of speculation beforehand, what would the president say about the former president, what would barack obama say about george w. bush, one of the things he talked about was immigration. let me play that.
>> i am hopeful that this year, with the help of speaker boehner and some of the senators and members of congress who are here today, that we bring it home for our families and our economy and our security and for this incredible country that we love and if we do that, it will be in large part thanks to all the hard work of president george w. bush. >> margie, no accident the president decided to focus his praise in this area, is it? >> no, i mean, i think that made a lot of sense. and look, i agree with the president. you would have never have heard former president bush use some of the language that you hear sometimes, where people talk about electric fences and shooting undocumented workers. that kind of language you hear sometimes on the right. you would never have heard from former president bush, when he was governor or when he was president. and you can see that electorally as republicans have lost ground among latinos, since he's been in office, while the latino population has grown.
so i think there are a lot of steps going forward. it's not just policy, it's also getting rid of some of the heated rhetoric, sometimes, on the right, about latino voters, because that doesn't justify the fact they're standing with latino, it affects the standing overall with voters everywhere. >> so the markup starts may 9th. how quickly does the get done michael? >> i think it's going to be a pretty steady timeline. i think there will be amendments, obviously, and there will be some chatter on the ground from various forces out there, certainly in the blog sphere, about all of this. but i don't think it slows this thing to a crawl. i think they've got the momentum, as they like to say, the wind's in their sails and i think they're going to move rather expeditiously to get this thing done on the timeline that the president and the gang of 8 have outlined by the beginning of summer or at least by the end of summer. >> margie omero and michael steele, good to see both of you. some good news from the devastating scene of a building
collapse in bangladesh. more than two days later, rescue crews are still finding factory workers alive in the rubble. at least 300 people, though, have died. a second man whose home police searched as part of the ricin letter investigation has gone into hiding. he stayed home for a while, but ultimately slipped out to escape the spotlight. dutschke's lawyer says he is still cooperating with investigators and he has not been charged with anything. there's a new michigan law going into effect. it allows doctors to tell the state if they think a patient's health condition makes them dangerous behind the wheel. proponents say this may help families who are struggling with how to take the keys away from seniors who don't want to lose their independence. the senate has reached a deal to delay voting on a bill to tax internet sales until after senators return from a week-long vacation. a small group of lawmakers from states without sales tax were blocking the bill. opponents say they hope senators will hear from angry constituents back home.
but their best hope for killing it is in the house, where some republicans consider it a tax increase. and an incredible survival story for a brother and sister from the u.s. while vacationing in st. lucia. they were on a fishing boat and it started to sink. the two swam for 14 hours before reaching land. once on shore, they waited out the night and then hiked three hours through thick brush until they found help. a famously flexible airline is getting stricter with travelers. cnbc's kayla tausche is here with what's moving your money. it happens after two other airline hiked their change fees, kayla. >> that's right, chris. southwest airlines used to be so flexible that you could just not show up for your flight whatsoever and rebook with no charge. it was certainly a luxury while it lasted, but if you miss your flight now without canceling it, you'll have to pay. we don't know how much the fee will be, only that it gets introduced this year. meanwhile, some of southwest's
rivals are making it even more expensive to change your flight at all. just this week, us airways is joining united by upping the price to join a flight to 400 bucks. the airlines say it costs them a lot of money when a traveler decides not to fly. more surprisingly, they also want higher budgpaying traveler. sometimes a nonrefundable ticket is sometimes ten times the cost of a normal ticket. >> this is really interesting. a new study found if you pay attention to google searches, you can predict which way the market's going to go. >> it's definitely interesting. there's been a lot of experimentation over the last couple of years about how you can read the mood of the web to make money. researchers in the uk and the u.s. found that when you look at key words like debt, housing, economics, 98 terms in all on google search, you found that if you shorted the stock market or bet that it would fall in tandem with how many times debt
occurred in those searches, you'd be up 326%. but there are a couple problems with using this theory to trade. first, people search more economic terms when they're worried, meaning you can predict when the stock market will go down, but not necessarily when it will go up. and also, it's based on historical searches, so it can't really predict future performance. one investor in london even set up an entire hedge fund that traded on the mood of twitter. not surprisingly, it, chris, closed after a month. >> it if sounds too good to be true -- kayla tausche, thank you so much. speaking of the internet, modern technology has given us a whole new way of speaking. a writer for "the guardian" out of the uk who's written a book about this has named the best words the internet has given the english language. they are, see how many of them you actually can define, avatar, hashtag, meme, spam -- no, not the kind you eat -- and of course, lol. time for the "your business"
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the serious part of this is that a few of these have landed at times when the country is dealing with very serious issues. so it will probably affect in some way what conan has to say, who's hosting it, and what the president has to say. >> definitely. we saw with virginia tech, when that happened, you know, and the white house correspondents' dinner happened just shortly after that. president bush said, you know, i was going to make a whole set of jokes about myself, but i don't think it's appropriate. and when journalists lost their lives, including nbc's david bloom back in 2003 in the iraq war, no fun there. he talked seriously about the role journalists play. so i would expect you to have some of that from the president and conan, but the show is going on to some degree. so some of it's going to be about journalists making fun of themselves and the president too. >> and something that they've never done before," e!" which i should say, is owned by this network, nbc universal, is going to do a red carpet. i mean, when did this happen?! >> i know, the thing i was thinking about in preparing the to talk to you is when did it become so star studded.
i was a white house correspondent from 1999 to 2002, and it was star studded but i remember andrew shoe of melrose place was one of the big stars and he was a hot star now. now you have the george clooneys of the world. and there's this competition to get -- >> we see a kardashian there. >> it becomes this competition between news organizations, who can get the buzziest guest. that has gotten a little out of hand. >> they took a picture of colin powell in there in between the other ones. this is washington. i mean, what's more important, to have somebody come to your part -- and there's kate hudson. to have somebody who's in the cabinet or somebody who's on a top reality show? >> i know. but you know what, there is this sort of thing, you know, washington is fascinated with hollywood, right? but guess what, hollywood is fascinated with washington. and so some of these celebrities are just as excited to talk to chuck todd, right, and i can't speak for chuck todd, but i think chuck todd might be, you
know, someone interested in talking to -- maybe not the reality -- >> i'm not going to speak to chuck, but for me, one of the most fun things to watch is how some of the people who deal, every day, with some of the most powerful people on earth get tongue tied, you know, when somebody famous from hollywood comes to stop by. i lived for four months on the story last year about a supermodel, who shall remain nameless, was adjusting her dress in front of me in the lady's room and asking me how it looked, as if she didn't look perfect anyway. i digress. and it's not just the correspondents there, it's all these parties. >> the "vanity fair" bloomberg part. >> and msnbc has become one of the hottest tickets in town too. that's another thing. but there's something going on, people are looking, there is some movement. tom brokaw has expressed his displeasure or unhappiness about where this is going, and the white house correspondents' association, president ed henry
is trying to make sure that correspondents get to go, the people who cover the white house, the young aides in the administration. that it should really be, you shouldn't have these celebrities and reality stars taking tickets away from the people who cover the white house in the first place. you do kind of sense that they're trying to make sure that doesn't happen. >> i wish you good luck with that. may be a train -- >> yeah, exactly. >> well, thank you, kelly. it's always good to talk to you. >> and off wonderful time. >> thank you, i'm sure i will. >> fun to see all the people -- all right, msnbc will have live coverage of the 2013 white house correspondents' dinner. the president is usually very funny. conan, i think, will be great. join craig melvin, 9:00 eastern time, saturday, right here on msnbc. and today's tweet of the day comes from a friend of the show. "washington post" correspondent karen tumulty. "you know you're old if you can remember when the white house correspondents' dinner was just a dinner in a hotel basement."
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more than 500,000 syrians have fled to jordan since the start of the civil war more than two years ago. president obama has yet to publicly comment on this new evidence of chemical weapons use, but referred to them as a game changer just months ago. >> that a red line for us is, we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. that would change my calculus. that would change my equation. >> even as members of the president's inner circle urged caution, members of congress are declaring that so-called red line is trampled. >> i think it's pretty obvious that red line has been crossed. >> the sooner assad leaves, the better for the world. >> all right. so let's dig in right now. joining me at the top of this hour, nbc news white house correspondent, kristen welker. nbc news foreign correspondent, ayman mohyeldin, and connecticut senator, richard blumenthal. senator, i'll ask you to stand