tv Lockup Colorado MSNBC June 30, 2013 7:00pm-8:01pm PDT
that's all for this edition of "caught on camera." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. angry inmates express their rage by flooding the segregation unit. the targets of the discontent include the prison's sex offenders. >> it's not the neighborhood that's so bad, it's the neighbors. >> it's my duty to put the fear of god into this man. >> the special response team is called into action. and another inmate nears the end of his sentence.
>> every week, dozens of new inmates arrive at limon correctional facility. a level 4 prison located on the barren plains of eastern colorado. [ livestock moos ] the prison sits on 320 acres and houses inmates in six different living units. >> the type of offenders that we have at limon are violent offenders. 64% violent. 244 are serving a life sentence. limon has had a reputation of being a violent prison amongst the offender population. they do tend to send the majority of violent offenders to limon. >> it's crazy how cold it is. >> i'm too damn skinny for this. >> oh, my god. last time i was on tv, they were chasing me.
>> put your arms up. put your hands behind your penis. >> all right, ears. hair. armpits. >> as a level 4 facility, limon houses many of colorado's most dangerous inmates. while some of today's arrivals are new to prison, others have been through the process numerous times before. one in particular comes with a reputation that precedes him. >> we have one coming off the bus going straight to segregation. that would be inmate timothy schreiber. >> timothy schreiber has transferred here from another state prison. unlike most new arrivals, he is sent immediately to administrative segregation, a 23-hour a day lockup unit for disruptive inmates. >> oh, i get the room with a view, huh? >> at the facility that he was housed at just prior coming to limon, he was found with a
weapon, a homemade knife, so he did have some charges that were pending and, as a result, he just went straight into our segregation unit. >> msnbc, any time you need me i'll be here. >> we did learn that schreiber did like to talk. not only to our crew -- >> these people are threatening my very life -- >> he also had a lot to say to the correctional staff helping us set up for the interview. >> i'm sure you just stick that key in there and turn it. it's not all that complicated, ma'am. >> oh, my. >> right now i'm really in fear for my life. >> are you ready to go? >> i'm not talking to you. i'm talking to the press right now. >> oh, i'm sorry. i didn't mean to steal your 15 seconds of fame. >> when he finished verbally sparring with the correctional staff, schreiber explained what brought him to prison. >> my original sex crime was an attempted sexual assault on a 13-year-old girl.
i have a history of repeated flashing. i'm like a serial flasher. this is my sixth conviction. i never flashed anyone younger than 13, but i have predelation for, like, 13 to 18, somewhere in the danger zone for me. i call it the danger zone where it's jail, very, very risky. >> [ bleep ]. >> there's my neighbors right now. they know about me. that's why they're making noise. >> throughout ad seg and other cell blocks, voices echo and can be heard by other inmates. that's why most sex offenders don't speak openly about their crimes. >> now, as far as i'm concerned a man like that in my eyes, it's my duty as a man to put the fear of god into this man. i want him, when he goes back out on the streets, when he sees
your child walking down the street or my kids playing in the park, i want him to be terrified at the thought of coming back to prison. he's not getting any worse treatment than the 13-year-old girl that he was bragging about, you know, sexually assaulting on the streets, basically probably ruined that girl's life. >> she was only 13. >> you don't want to be a sex offender in prison. it's hell. >> [ bleep ] that child molester. >> though inmates strive to stay out of ad seg, a place where the few freedoms are taken away, schreiber knows it's probably the safest place for someone like himself. >> these fools in here, they aren't going to put up with my [ bleep ] presence. they're not. >> but his stay here is only temporary. the prison he transferred from has decided not to charge him for having a shank so he will soon be returned to general population.
>> the intel officer from the facility he was sent here from e-mailed me and told me they wouldn't pursue an ad seg over it so we decided at that time he can go into general population. we had no reason to ad seg him from here. >> many prisons segregate sex offenders for their own protection. but not in colorado. instead, inmates who attack sex offenders are transferred to another state prison. >> we are adamant that we will not segregate the sex offenders here, and we integrate them with the rest of the population. and we do that, in essence, to manage the population and not close doors in regards to where we can house them. it does create problems because the general population offenders try to assault the sex offenders because they don't want them housed around them. >> they're going to put him around me in the yard, he's going to get smashed, as simple as that. >> michael is one of the ad seg inmates who was yelling at schreiber during our interview. ironically, gill has already
served two years for sexual assault and is now back on a parole violation. but he's won allies in segregation by carrying out other crimes in prison including some against sex offenders. >> a lot of write-ups, tattooing, theft, unauthorized possession and assault. >> why? >> to fit in. i don't know. >> theft? >> to earn respect. theft. i took someone's tv. he was a piece of [ bleep ]. that's crazy. what's that noise? >> yeah, i'm curious too. >> our interview is cut short as massive amounts of water cascade into the cell block from the second tier. >> they flooded the tier.
that's awesome. >> they are loving it. they are just absolutely loving it. all right. what happened? >> i have no idea. >> what's it look like happened? >> i'm not even going to say nothing with that door open. >> as staff start to clean up the cell block, we would soon learn that the flooding had to do with another unwelcome presence in ad seg, our crew. >> they're imagine -- these interviews going on. so this is their way of having a protest. >> the ringleader is george grahf, who is serving three years for motor vehicle theft. >> i believe they're upset that you guys are interviewing sex offenders and they don't want that to be a representation of limon correctional facility offenders. >> remember that. [ bleep ] all the sex offenders. that ain't no good. >> as they attempt to restore
order, correctional officers return gill to his cell. >> we're going to have lieutenant piper go ask if he will cuff up and what we'll do is put him on special patrols because he's flooding the cell. hopefully he'll comply. if not, we'll assemble a team and remove him and replace him to a cell on a lower flood so if he does flood it won't go all over all the tiers. >> i'm going to go ahead and move you. do you want out of the cell? >> i ain't [ bleep ] leaving. >> okay. cell extraction! >> okay. we will. >> and whether [ bleep ] that filming rats and sex offenders. we'll be back in a minute. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. this is limon. this is limon! >> coming up -- >> we will not negotiate with terrorists!
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during our first day of shooting on the administrative segregation unit at colorado's limon correctional facility. inmates started a disruption, backing up their toilets and flooding cell house tiers. >> get the [ bleep ] away from our door. >> the big thing is these guys are acting out, one, because you guys are here. it's their opportunity. two, it's evidently you're pulling sex offenders in and interviewing them. and we've had a lot of problems with the sex offenders and white supremist groups. >> the flooding is led by george grahf who is refusing to let correctional staff move him out of his cell. >> it's about grahf. and i want to put him on special controls as well.
>> the prison's emergency response team is ordered to suit up for a forcible cell extraction on grahf. >> put your top on. >> i'm officer wilson. i'm the number one man on the cell extraction team. i'll be in charge of his head. >> each member has a specific function in these highly choreographed procedures. >> i'm officer scott. i'm the number four man and team leader. i'm responsible for securing right side leg and i'm also responsible for all team movement. >> prison policy is to videotape statements from each team member. >> my name is sergeant unit and i'm responsible for introducing chemical agents into the cell. >> i'm officer barry soski. i'll be videotaping this operation. i'll be using the amount of force necessary. >> i'll use the least amount of force necessary -- >> -- to gain control of the offender. >> okay, let's go, guys. >> grahf is given a final chance
to comply. >> grahf -- >> get the [ bleep ] away from my door! you understand? >> i'm coming through the window. >> grahf has covered his window and food port with his mattress. it won't protect him for long. the emergency response team is about to knock it down to administer oc gas, a form of pepper spray. >> grahf, we're coming in. >> we will not negotiate with terrorists! >> go, go, go. >> okay. >> open the window. don't stop there. >> unable to tolerate the burning effects of the oc gas,
grahf finally agrees to cuff up. >> down. go, go, go. >> get him down. >> mr. grahf, were you injured? >> no. i can't breathe. >> okay. that will go away soon. >> you're doing all right, grahf. >> he's going to fall. >> if grahf continues to cooperate, he will be allowed to shower off the stinging oc gas residue. but he appears to still have some fight left in him. >> [ bleep ] punk. you like this [ bleep ]. [ bleep ] like this. >> you have to remain compliant or we're going to leave you in the chair. do you understand that? >> [ bleep ] you.
i can't breathe. >> grahf, you need to be compliant. do you understand that? >> yeah. >> are you sure? >> yeah. >> take the spit mask off. >> all right. you're all right. >> don't spit. don't spit. don't spit. don't spit. >> he is finally allowed to shower but it doesn't seem to help. >> why isn't the water so hot? is it supposed to be a cold shower? this [ bleep ] hotel sucks. welcome to life. >> all right. your time's up. >> we can do this [ bleep ] every day until they stop filming these [ bleep ]. these [ bleep ]. filming rats and punks. >> though grahf was initially hostile, he eventually agreed to speak with us. >> what bothered me was that you
were interviewing ch-mos. sex offenders, punks, rats, dudes that -- dudes that society won't deal with correctly. people think innocent people run around prison and get raped and get beat up and stabbed. you think that's how it works in here? you really [ bleep ] like that happens? you think innocent people are just getting smashed for no reason? these dudes are getting beat up for no reason? that's naive. that's what american society wants to believe. that we're monsters. that there's no cause for any of this stuff. the dudes that get beat up and the dudes that get stabbed are dudes that rape little kids. >> coming up -- >> i told you it was going to happen and it happened. >> timothy schreiber claims he's been attacked. >> but staff are skeptical.
>> i am a sex offender. >> and his fellow inmates in ad administrative segregation have made no secret of their disdain for sex offenders. >> how bad is it? >> now staff has been informed that schreiber has also been making racial slurs and has apparently paid a price for it. >> what did he say? >> he claims another inmate has sprayed his cell with feces and urine. >> the staff in seg didn't identify anybody as doing it. >> he's going to do everything he can do to stay checked into segregation and not hit gp. >> is that all the stuff right there? >> this is all it. here and on the bed. >> what this guy is doing is going around and antagonizing everybody. he's trying to create enemies. >> put your hands out here. >> he's telling everybody he is a sex offender so he doesn't have to hit the yard. well, it doesn't matter. him being a sex offender alone won't keep you off the yard at limon. we got 160, 170 sex offenders. he has to give it a shot.
when we informed him last night that he would be moved to unit one and be moved into general population, he told us that this may happen to him. >> i told you it was going to happen. and it happened. these fools don't see that i'm the management problem of the [ bleep ] century. >> no, i bet you are the management problem of the century. sit down. >> anyway, it happened. i got [ bleep ] on my miera in five. >> miera is aric miera. one of the ad seg inmates we interviewed about shreiber. >> in my eyes, it is my duty as a man to put the fear of god into this man. >> looks pretty self-inflicted to me. >> oh, oh, yeah, it's self-inflicted. sure. what, are you from the [ bleep ] planet mars? don't act like you're [ bleep ]. >> hey.
>> neither one of you are [ bleep ] psychotic. >> we haven't cussed at you. don't cuss at us. >> don't treat me like that. >> you show your respect. >> fine. fine. >> understood? >> yes, sir, i do understand. but i certainly didn't [ bleep ] on myself. one of them -- shampoo bottle and hit and shook it up and told him to do it for a couple of stamps so he went and did it to me. i'm going to get him back tomorrow. i'll tell you -- >> you know what, i don't think you will. >> if you don't move miera or move me, i'm definitely retaliating against him tomorrow. >> you're going to one today so you'll be all right. >> i'm not going to go to one unless you want to drag me over there and force my lockdown you can drag me over to one. i ain't going to one or else you could leave me there. or move me to some other cell in this [ bleep ] facility. you have another open cell. don't pretend you don't. you don't -- don't lie in front of a [ bleep ] cable news crew. i know you have another open cell. >> we do have open cells but guess what, you don't dictate where you go. so guess what, you're going to one.
>> you're not going to put my [ bleep ] life in danger, man. >> you just told us -- you asked to go, you asked to be moved. >> just like we told you last night, that's where you're going. >> let's go. >> i'm not going to one. >> you're going outside right now. >> well, i'm not going to one. i want to talk to the warden. >> schreiber will be held in an enclosed rec area while porters clean his cell. >> if they want to play games, i'll play game. i'll take down the whole [ bleep ] i'm not on the side of the [ bleep ] prisoners. [ bleep ] staff. i'm my own [ bleep ] army. of one. >> i know he did it because you look at the door there's nothing on the outside of the door and it's all running down the front of the door on the inside. you can see where it hit the tray slot and leaked through and that's the only place it's on the door. if he went underneath the door, it would have been splattered all over the door. it wouldn't have hit it and sprayed back out. >> when i saw it, i thought he did it myself too. -- himself, too. >> he pointed the finger at aric
miera. now fox and piper will talk to him to get his side of the story. >> i didn't do it. he was talking about getting [ bleep ] all day long, about bombing us, you know. >> did he say anything to you? you didn't get him before he got you? >> no. you can ask them guys that were in there. he's been in there all morning. i think the guy wants to check in. >> all right. that's all we needed to know then. >> all right. >> hey, you [ bleep ]. you fat little [ bleep ]. >> he's getting that [ bleep ] back in spades. i'm going to make it extra thick, man. it's going to be extra thick and full of [ bleep ]. >> i'm going to get you good tomorrow. it's on. it's on now, miera. that's a felony, by the way, you dumb [ bleep ]. you [ bleep ] bomb another prisoner nowadays, it's a felony. >> piper and fox both suspect miera is telling the truth but still piper talks to some of his other neighbors. to get a clearer picture. >> this guy, he said he cannot
go to gp for some apparent reason, you know, and that he's going to do whatever he has to do to stay in here. >> all right, man. all right. >> correctional staff soon conclude that miera was not involved in the incident and take no further action against him. once schrieber's cell is finally cleaned, piper and fox escort him back in but schrieber is not happy with the results. >> oh, damn, still smells like a barnyard in here. look at this wall. it's still got [ bleep ] on it. hey, man. come and get it. you smell that? i'm not [ bleep ]. this poor half [ bleep ] job. >> next -- >> you know the guy that flashes little kids at pools, that's a piece of [ bleep ]. >> timothy schreiber is on the move and still pressing buttons. >> this one offender, he is the ultimate test down while you can maintain your professionalism. >> you're not going to manipulate the system here at limon.
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administrative segregation unit by backing up their toilets. now, only 60 days away from being paroled on his two-year sentence for sexual assault, gill is facing a disciplinary hearing board for allegedly attempting the same act. it all began when he asked staff for a mop. >> sergeant wagner writes in his report, gill stated to me if i did not give him a mop right now, he would attempt to flood his cell which he actually did attempt to do a little bit later on in the day. i believe his actions meet the definition of the charge. i have nothing further. >> your turn. >> wow. i just wanted to [ bleep ] them off by flushing the toilet 100 times in a row. i never did put anything in there. i'm not going to sit there and flood. i got to walk around in the crap. you fail to mention i asked him eight times previous and it was over a course of a hour that i had someone else's toilet water in my cell. >> he says he wanted the mop because his neighbor flooded his own cell. and the water spread into gill's. >> if you were at home and you had toilet water on your floor
you would clean it up immediately, wouldn't you? i expected a reasonable time frame to clean up my toilet water or someone else's toilet water. >> were they still doing someone else in. >> they were getting ready to do a force cell. >> listen, it's not my fault this place is short-staffed and cannot get staff down here in an adequate amount of time. >> there's 950 guys here wish they were looking at 60 days. i know it's not easy but you're just going have to bow your neck and do it. they're not going to kick you out early. this last 60 days is going to be what you make of it. >> what i'm going to do is i'm going to give you 20 days punitive segregation and give you credit for 10 days served and probate the remaining 10 days. >> thank you. >> we got 60 days to polish you up. i don't know if we can do it. >> i tell you. >> doesn't look good. >> it's going to be -- you probably hear it all the time but when i go home it's going to be so much different. i got a job. i'll make more money than anyone in here when i get out, you know?
this ain't my life. >> good. i hope i never see you again. >> i'm going to move up here. is there a lot of work? are they hiring at denny's? >> no, no, there's no work. no housing. nothing. there's nothing out here. >> but later, the levity gave way to an ominous warning when gill talked about the one inmate on his cell block who could cause him to prolong his stay in prison. >> his name i believe is schrever or schreiber. you know, the guy that flashes little kids at pools and sexually molests 13-year-old girls? that's a piece of [ bleep ]. >> schreiber came to limon two days ago and he's obviously scared to be at this facility. because of his offense. so he's acted out in an effort to get locked up. >> if schreiber could have his way, he would remain locked up in administrative segregation, but prison officials are planning to move him to unit one, a general population cell block. >> he's six time back.
he knows how they treat sex offenders, you know. and we tried to explain to him how, you know, we have the large amount of sex offenders out here and we deal with the population pretty well. this morning i think we probably got through to him. >> let's move him down to one and let the process run its course and explain to him how it works, that if he does come up with issues, he needs to talk with piper, and we'll assess it from there. >> but even before he can escort schreiber to unit one, piper receives word that schreiber is antagonizing other inmates in ad seg. >> what's he saying about kids? >> down there running his mouth about what he wants to do to little kids and stuff again. >> you don't let these guys get to you. you don't think about them. you come in, do a job. we're not here to punish. we're here to act professional. but i can honestly say this one offender, he is the ultimate test to how well you can maintain your professionalism.
>> [ bleep ]. you can take me out here with all these [ bleep ] handcuffed. geez, man. i'm sure you're really going to step in if anybody does anything too, right? i'm not saying anything. okay. >> are you speaking? are you speaking? you're saying something. don't. >> you already know what you should do. you should ad seg me. and why you're not is beyond me so why don't you tell me why you're not ad segging me? >> there is no valid threat right now. >> oh, yeah? well, why don't you look at my write-ups? at territorial i got a write-up for possessing a razor knife in my cell. >> prior to placing him in general population, warden trinity wants to make sure schreiber doesn't dig himself into a deeper hole.
>> do you understand i'm not going to waste an ad seg bed on you? you're not a legitimate threat. you're trying to check in is what you're trying to do. >> damn right. i'm trying to save my own [ bleep ] neck. >> you would not have been moved to this facility if there was a verified theft against your life. let these gentlemen do their job. if we verify a threat, we'll deal with it appropriately. you acting out and you telling the other offenders why you're here isn't doing you favors. that will cause you problems throughout your whole career. keep your mouth in the unit. don't talk about why you're here. don't threaten other inmates. because that's not going to get you anywhere. that will get you hurt. >> warden, do you realize that by walking into that already -- >> they don't know what kind of offender you are. >> are you guys -- >> there's a whole bunch of offenders just like you out there and everybody knows what they are. but they're not standing on a tier telling everybody and threatening their families. you do what i told you this morning and keep your mouth shut and you'll make it here. you don't do it and you'll be in trouble. >> once you put me out there in the population, i'm going to get my ass beat down and end up in the infirmary.
if i'm lucky, in the infirmary. if not, i'll end up in a graveyard. >> listen to me, if legitimate threats are made against you, you need to report to these gentlemen and we'll deal with it accordingly. do you understand that? >> that is -- yes, i do. >> end of story. >> you're setting up me for a beating is what you are doing, if i'm lucky. >> listen to me while i'm talking to you. >> all right. our units are segregated. they don't interact with each other. so if we find a unit where you don't have enemies, where they don't know you, you can make it there. >> it's not the neighborhood that's so bad. it's the neighbors. that's what it is. >> here's what you need to know. listen to me. >> what? >> you're not going to manipulate the system here at limon. you've manipulated the system at every other system you've been at. that's not going to happen to limon. you'll go through the process just like every other inmate that comes in here does. if that means you go out in population, that's what you're going to go. if it means we can verify custody issues and we move you,
that's where you go. but you're going to do our process. we're not going to do yours. >> i'm going to do everything in my power to make, you know, the system work for me, in my favor. >> entering -- >> in regards to going to the hole. >> coming up -- >> [ bleep ] happens. >> george grahf faces the disciplinary board for flooding his cell block. >> you know what happens here. >> an unexpected development infuriates michael gill. and more trouble for timothy schreiber. >> as i was walking by for count, he had his hands down his pants making the masturbating motion. everything you need for a great summer. this 5-piece dining set on clearance, save over $49! marco! polo! this metal frame pool on rollback, you save $80! woo! fire up the savings. this 4 burner grill on rollback, you save $11. how bout all these bikes on rollback? like this mongoose adult bike, you save over $20! get more summer for your money at walmart's super summer savings event going on right now at your local walmart.
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released a deluge onto the rest of the cell block. and then refused to leave his cell, prompting a forced cell extraction. >> it makes a point. here's the thing. i'll explain this real simply. is my actions, right, that day affected how many people? >> lots. >> okay. their actions only affected who? me, right? it might be petty. it might be stupid. you got to understand, we live in a box. i live in a box. that's it. my life is in a box. we have nothing else to do. i had the joy of knowing that i affected them as much as they affected me. and that's what gets you through it. you know what i mean? is that their day was just as hard as my day was. >> now grahf faces the prison's disciplinary hearing board to account for his actions. >> it's the position of the department that as a result of this man's actions, numerous staff were called away from their normal duties to participate in the forced cell move. it's all i have at this time. >> mr. grahf.
>> i have nothing to say. >> in my opinion, this is a little bit out of character. i mean, you were -- >> doing good. >> -- doing good time down there. >> yep. >> i mean, what happened? do you want to discuss it or would you rather not? >> it's personal things. [ bleep ] happens. you know of all people that [ bleep ] happens here, you know? >> i agree. >> it doesn't take long for the board to render a decision. >> sanctions that are going to be imposed for this case are ten days punitive segregation. >> ten days. >> a little generous. >> ten days. it took me longer than that for the paperwork. >> he's ad segged. any more, it's not going to really help. >> he, like other long-term ad seg inmates, will eventually be transferred to one of the state's most highly restrictive prisons where all the inmates are locked down 23 hours a day. it's just a matter of waiting for a cell to open up. grahf has four limon inmates ahead of him but not for long. >> we're going in to take four guys out ad seg.
michael gill is one of them. we're taking him to sterling. >> how do you feel about your move today? >> pretty [ bleep ] off. >> why? >> because it's four hours away from my family. i got 61 days left. and they're moving me for no reason. >> he's a hot head and he gets upset real easy so you have to walk around him easily. >> my whole goal is just to go home and i was secure here. i know everyone here. i'm comfortable here. >> gill appeared to take the news well until his request for a shower seemed to hit a snag. >> were you afforded an opportunity to take a shower yesterday? >> no. >> why not? >> yesterday we don't get a shower. it's canteen. >> let me talk to the staff and i'll get back -- >> she said that they were going to be here any minute and it's been an hour. >> i'm going to go out and talk to them right now. give me the chance to fix this. all right? if you don't give me a chance to
fix it and you go off, you lose, all right? >> have patience. >> have patience. have i done you wrong? then give me that respect. >> gill's patience didn't last long. >> i'm going to go on a bus and probably head-butt [ bleep ] because i don't get a shower. i'm going to start [ bleep ] -- haven't taken a shower in three days. >> you think lieutenant gillis is taking care -- >> what [ bleep ] kind of bull [ bleep ] is that? this is the kind of [ bleep ] games you play? i'm not going to get no [ bleep ] shower until at least tomorrow. [ bleep ] kind of bull [ bleep ] is that? >> though ad seg inmates are limited to three showers per week, the confusion over gill's allotment was soon cleared up. >> i got my shower in so i'm good. >> how is your head? >> my head is fine. >> really? >> yeah. how is your head? >> mine is fine but i didn't bash it against a window. >> well, you know, three days
without a shower, you know, i can't do three days without a shower. it's bull [ bleep ] only thing i'm looking forward to is being in that van with the radio on so -- something i look forward to. how long of a drive is it? >> a couple hours. >> can i sit up front? i haven't listened to music -- that's all i care about. >> we'll play some. >> whoa, whoa. there's ice on the ground. i don't feel comfortable in the car. i'd like to say good-bye to limon. tell the place they can kiss my [ bleep ]. 60 days i'll never look back. >> gill leaves behind the one inmate who seemingly strives to annoy all he comes in contact with, timothy schreiber, who now lives in general population. >> what is your name? >> i'll put it in writing for you. >> state your name. >> state your name.
>> you need to -- get your meal, get your meal and go back to your house. >> she's the housing sergeant. she won't tell me her name. what's your name? >> get your meal and go back to your house. >> he wants everything right now and he wants it on his time. i don't do anything an inmate tells me to do ever. >> i'll find out your name. >> i will write it down for you. >> i'll find out your name. >> even if i say it to you, you won't understand it. i have to write it down for you. >> you know what's coming, mother [ bleep ]. you know what's coming. >> they hate him. i mean, he has brought so much heat on to this pod and disrespect to them. he's called them inappropriate names, racial slurs, all this stuff and, you know, they're not going to put up with it. >> neither will the correctional staff. schreiber has been written up yet again. >> last night during count they caught him masturbating. >> he just chose to be masturbating during count. he knew the female officers were
counting. >> as i was walking by for count, he had his hands down his pants making the masturbating motion. i asked him to stand for count. he kind of sat there, rolled his eyes for a second and slowly stood like he was annoyed. he just kind of looked at me and pressed his face up against the window and stood there for a few minutes. and i walked back down the tier and walked back by and he followed me. his eyes had followed me the entire time. >> it was not true. i was sitting on my bunk with my hands on my thighs looking at her like this because i wasn't going to stand up for count. i was going to deliberately not stand up for count. i wanted to get a write-up for disobeying a lawful order to help my cause of getting ad seg. in a way, it's cool that she falsely accused me of this because now they're putting me in seg. >> but schreiber's assumption that he will be immediately placed in ad seg is false. he must wait up to seven working days for a disciplinary hearing
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used racial slurs and made false accusations. he has verbally abused staff and masturbated in front of a female officer, all part of a campaign to be sent back to administrative segregation. but now schreiber has taken things to another level. officers have discovered a shank in his cell. we interviewed him the morning of his disciplinary hearing on the matter. he was still sleeping. >> i just found it. i didn't make it. i found it underneath the bed. i gave it to one of the guards. i don't know. it just turned up at the right time. i can't believe it but that's what happened. >> schreiber has opted to not defend himself at the hearing. >> it's too early for me. i don't -- i don't get up and do anything until like lunch and it's exactly what i want anyway. the hearing, you know? there's no point in me being there. >> so what's the answer? >> okay. would you read the notice for administrative segregation into the record?
>> summary states schreiber has demonstrated a pattern of incorrigibility. he has been convicted of six violations and housed at nine different facilities in about a six-month period. >> how many occasions was there a homemade weapon? >> appears he had three different incidents. since he's been at this facility, he attempted to incite other offenders, made racial slurs, been disruptive, masturbated in front of female staff and made inappropriate sexual comments and had a homemade knife. >> it doesn't matter where he gets moved to. he's not going to change his behaviors. >> he said he wanted to be placed in ad seg. he is afraid to be in general population. >> the actions he takes because he wants to be administrative segregated. >> do you believe if we put him back into general population he will hurt another offender or staff member? >> yes, i do. >> do you believe in that? >> i do. >> based on the seriousness of him and his continuing disruptive behavior, this committee finds his conduct poses a serious threat to the security and staff of this
facility. therefore, this committee is going to recommend ad seg placement. >> this is what i've been trying to do since september. and then i went to five different prisons and landed up here. finally they did the right thing here after it took me ten write-ups, you know. but they finally did the right thing. they got rid of -- probably one of the biggest management problems in their history, me. and so i got what i wanted. >> schreiber got exactly what he wanted for now. but what he doesn't realize is that very soon his actions might result in a consequence that he never anticipated. he has just been summoned to the associate warden's office. >> it's probably something i said because they probably heard me say something. they want to talk to me about it. it's all it is. probably i made a comment to one of the guards.
it's probably what this is about. i hope that's all it's about. >> but in reality the matter is far more serious. schreiber's attempts to manipulate the prison might have come with profound repercussions. >> i know you believe in your mind that you're getting out in august. that's probably not going to happen. you're looking at a whole bunch of time. they're even talking about filing habitual on you, so you could be looking at the rest of your life in here. >> and you understand what that's based off, correct? it's based off of the shanks that were found in your possession. as i understand, you've been found with two previous to limon and then the shank that was found in your cell at limon correctional facility. >> i found them. i didn't make them. i found them. >> well, that will be handled in court. but i'm telling you, with the amount of time that you're looking at, quit antagonizing these inmates. because you're going to have to live with them -- maybe for the rest of your life.
and what you're building now, you're going to pay for it down the road. >> oh, dude, i'll tell you right now, if i get criminal charges off of finding a bic razor in my cell, i'm not going to be doing that time. i'll tell you right now. i'm not going to be doing that time. >> well, i'm here to tell you you'll end up going back. >> i'm telling you right now i'm going to kill myself if i go and get criminal charges on that [ bleep ]. that's what i'm telling you right now in front of these cameras. i'm not doing any more time in prison off this [ bleep ]. period. so if i get criminal charges past august, i'm killing myself plain and simple.
i'm a hustling fool. >> it's a world of hustlers. >> these sausages, man. they're so [ bleep ] good. >> where no object is too small to bargain over. >> you know the first thing he asked me? he goes, can i keep the fork? oh, he got me for a fork. >> it's an underground economy where some deals are signed in ink, and others are signed in blood.