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actually good for us but i think i learned we need some more disclosures, modifications. >> steve ratner, thanks very much. now it's time for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd straight ahead. have a great day, everyone. mood swings ahead of a budget battle this fall. new numbers show the challenge facing president obama as he tries to boost the country's confidence in the economic outlook. on some issues, he's finding an unexpect eed partner to get conversations going again. it's john mccain back to wheeling and dealing again. the hits keep on coming for anthony weiner. the mayoral hopeful lost his campaign manager but he's pressing on. we'll talk to one of his top rivals, bill thompson, in just a few moments, who made some interesting comments about stop and frisk. a deep dive with none other than ralph nader. after decades fighting against
big coreporation, now he conversation the answer to get our problems fixed might simply be find a billionaire to run for president. >> good morning from philadelphia. it's monday, july 29th, 2013. time for "the daily rundown." now, here's chuck todd. >> thanks to mitchell and his dog isaac for sending in that good morning video. keep them coming. now, let's get right to my first reads of the morning. a rebound in housing prices, ready for this it startling numbers. a new survey obtained exclusively by the associated press shows that 4 out of 5 adults struggle with one of the following, joblessness, near poverty or relying on welfare for at least parts of their lives. 67% of americans experience unploiu unemployment at some point this their working lives. 54% rely on food stamps at some
point. or incomes below 50% of the poverty level. 45% use welfare. and right now 28 million americans or 1 in 5 earn less than $10 an hour. this is the ji gagigantic probl. it's the growing pessimism about the economy that extends much more broadly. by 2030, the survey says that based on the widening income gap, close to 85% of all working age adults in the u.s. will experience bouts of economic insecurity. these numbers go a long way towards explaining why just 29% of americans in our most recent poll said the country is in -- going in the right direction. the feeling that the rich are getting richer and everybody else is struggling is the challenge these days for political leaders as they try to gain political advantage on the economy. of course, here, the white house sees these numbers too. and it may explain why the president is taking a populist argument on the road. tomorrow, heading to chattanooga, tennessee.
his, quote, better bargain for the middle class. in his first interview with "the new york times" in three year, the president said if washington is not talking about upward mobility, then it's missing the boat. >> there was a sense of not upward mobility in the abstract, it was part and parcel of who we were as americans. and that's what been eroding over the last 20, 30 years. here we are, having dealt with this massive crisis, but those trends, those trends have continued. and that's what people sense. that's why people are anxious. that's why people are frustrated. >> of course, the problem is neither party has a great legislative solution to this issue of the widening income gap. while americans are concerned about how to climb the income ladder and what a secure middle income job will even look like in ten years, washington is
engaged in a protracted fight simply about the role of government. if washington gets mired in another battle in the fall over the funding of government, that's not going to help either party. we're seeing that in our own poll numbers. still, republicans have to be careful here that they don't just look like they're fighting the president on everything. and actually present an agenda for economic growth. it's clear the president is stiffening his backbone for the fall battle. >> there's not an action that i take that you don't have some folks in congress who say that i'm usurping my authority. some of those folks think i usurp my authority by having the gall to win the president. >> i pessimism among whites about their family's economic futures has climbed to the highest point since at least 1978. the president addressed the issue of race and the economy with the times. >> racial tensions won't get better, they may get worse, because people will feel as if
they've got to compete with some other group to get scraps from a shrinking pile. >> by the way, this may explain some of the tension around the immigration reform debate. this afternoon, the president will meet with civil rights leaders as well as state and elected officials at the white house to discuss strengthening the voting rights act in the wake of the supreme court's decision. of course this meeting comes just after the justice department made its decision to try to get the courts to rule on what kind of authority it has on the attempt by texas to alter many of their voting laws. now, turning from the high-minded decade debate on how to rebuild america's middle class to something that's, say well, not. the tale of two mayors from two coasts. the race for one and the potential recall of another in what's become embarrassing not only for politics in general but especially for the democratic party. first, in san diego, the city's first democrat mayor in 20 years is desperately trying to stay in
office. after multiple sexual harassment claims came to life, fillner made a hail mary with the announcement he is entering rehab. >> i must take responsibility for my conduct by taking action so that such conduct does not ever happen again. a will be entering a behavioral counseling clinic to begin the process of addressing my behavior. >> calls for his resignation are growing as pressure from leaders intensifies. from local leaders to washington, you had dianne feinstein who added her voice. >> this kind of absence of a moral compass is subject to recall. i suspect there will be recalls. >> but you think he should make it easier and resign? >> make it easier and resign, that's right. >> the officials are already talking recall. it may not be easy in san diego it the city's recall rules appear to contradict some of the
state's rulings. the state requires signatures from 10% of all registered voters in the city within 120 days of filing a petition. and according to the "l.a. times," local officials are already trying to iron out the legal difficulties. while democrats in california are doing everything they can to try to shame him into resigning, democrats in new york are doing everything they can to shame anthony weiner into dropping out of the mayor's race in that city. there's a seemingly big push in the big andpple to get weiner t drop out. just this past weekend, we learned his campaign manager quit, leaving the former congressman to downplay his top staffer's departure and try to explain it away. >> we have amazing staff but this isn't about the people working on the campaign, it's about the people that we're working for. >> meanwhile, democratic rival christine quinn keeps act leing
like a front-runner and is not letting up. >> do i think he has the qualificati qualificatio qualifications? has he disqualified himself? yes. not just because of these scandals. he didn't have the qualifications when he was in congress. >> whether weiner drops out or not, this is still a game of getting into the democratic runoff. as weiner becomes less and less of a viable option, it opens the door for other candidates. it is interesting there. christine quinn may not want weiner to drop out. we'll explain here. one of those candidates trying to get into that runoff is bill thompson who in 2009 came within five points of beating mayor bloomberg despite being outspent by a whopping 14-1 margin. thompson rarely talks about race but on sunday, the former city comptroller and only african-american candidate in the race seized an opportunity to tie new york's stop and frisk laws to the trayvon martin case.
saying the same suspicions have been institutionalized in new york city. joining me now is bill thompson. good morning. >> good morning, chuck, how are you? >> i'm good. i want to start with this stop and frisk. what i'm trying to understand about your position is on one hand you think the law is a good law. and you want the tactic used. can this -- but explain how you believe the tactic can be used without somebody believe iing they're being profiled in some form. >> there are certain constitutional safeguards that have been attached to stop and frisk. and in new york, they've been ignored in so many different ways. when you look at quotas that have been established. what is has done is almost institutionalized. that's how you start to
institutionalize bad policy. in addition, it is a policing tool. it has become bad policy in the city of new york by the bloomberg administration. >> explain how you would change stop and frisk so that we're still used but in a way that you think it can be done while protecting, frankly, the constitutional rights of minorities in new york city. >> the first thing i think is getting rid of these quotas. performance goals that have been set -- that have been attached to this. that's the first big step. second, in training with our police officers. when they make a stop, it is what are they looking for. it's not just stopping someone because they're black or because they're latino. then you start to add police officers also. particularly in high crime neighborhoods with the more experienced officers. and bring back community policing. you tie all of those together, there are more officers on streets working with the
economy, not against them. that's how you make those changes. >> what's the most pressing issue in new york city? >> there are a few. i would honestly say the most press thing people are most concerned about are jobs. people want to see good paying jobs in the city of new york. it allows them to be able to bring their families up here, allows people to have a decent way, decent quality of life in new york city. >> you ran against michael bloomberg. you thought he shouldn't have served a third term. what does a couple of policies of michael bloomberg that you want to continue and what's a couple of policies, the first things you would like to discontinue? >> i think to give the mayor credit, things like sustainability, making new york city greener city on a number of different ways, i think that is -- think he's done a good job at that. trying to make new york city, you know, help new york city grow. that's another good thing. policies i'd like to change, i think if you look, as i said, first at stop and frisk and the way that's been used. that's probably one of the
things you want to do first. education policy that is failing our children. focussed on standardized testing as opposed to comprehension and critical thinking within our schools. that's another. and just really -- a real focus to ining to build affordable housing in new york city. if we don't do that, people are going to continue to be priced out of their neighborhoods. so i would say that there are a number of policies that the mayor has either not focussed on. bring my own focus to that and create new york city as a city of all five boroughs again as opposed to certain areas being favored. >> we talk a lot about stop and frisk. give you pause on the idea of ray kelly being the next director of homeland security if obama does nominate him? >> i think all of that has to be taken into account. right now, that's just speculation. the one thing that has to be considered is how commissioner kelly has misused stop and frisk in the city of new york and targeted individuals. that all has to be part of a
balanced approach or balanced review of his record. i would say it is cause for concern. in any confirmation hearing. >> and finally, i want to ask you about the elephant in the room when it comes to the mayor's race. that is mr. weiner. you think he should stay in the race or could you think it would be better if he quit? >> elections, particularly mayor in new york city, are about the future of this city. it's a discussion with the people in this city about where we're going to go and a vision for the future of new york. i think that anthony has become a distraction. i think that he needs to drop out of this race. i think he needs to make this about the people of the city of new york, not about himself. so i think that he needs to -- it's time to get out. this is -- it's way past time that he get out of this race. >> all right, bill thompson, one of the major candidates running for the democratic nomination for new york city mayor. thank you for stopping by this morn, sir. we've got more first reads
still to come, including the latest maverick move by senator john mccain. just what makes him tick? it's really all about the institution. meanwhile, egypt is bracing for a possible escalation in violence this morning. the government says it has run out of patience with the nearly month-long pro-morsi sit-in. the crackdown could come any minute now. first, a look ahead at today's politics planner. and the most overhyped lunch date of the day. that's probably a lot more meaningless than everybody wants to believe. is the lunch between president obama and former secretary of state hillary clinton. but hey, a political junky can dream. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc.
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time now for more first read. the most intriguing story over the last few months. the shift of mccain again from being a president's bitter rival to a potential partner on many issues. right now, that president is obama. tomorrow, mccain will take part in an event hosted by the afl-cio and he's going to present his case for why citizenship is an important combo nent of any immigration bill. even organizers call his participation improbable. it's just the latest alliance between the arizona senator and the white house these days after moving to the right to protect himself from a 20 10 primary
challenger, mccain has transformed himself to thorn in the side to half of a very odd washington couple these days. mccain met with the president and senator linbehin lindsey gr the white house to talk sequestration. in march, he joined the gop to a caucus of common sense to a private dinner with the president. mccain was criticizing his own party for refusing to go to conference with democrats on the budget. then two weeks ago he broke with the compromise to avoid the nuclear option. majority leader harry reid said no one would have been able to break through but for him. mccain praised the president's speech on trayvon martin and said arizona should revisit its stand your ground laws. it's a strikingly different tone than the arizona senator took during obama's first term when the two tangled over everything and barbed exchanges which at times felt very personal. >> let me just make this point, john, because we're not campaigning anymore. the election's over.
>> i'm reminded of that every day. >> so what's changed? mccain spoke with politico along with recent buddy senator chuck schumer. >> i'm not saying that i haven't changed at all. i'm sure that i have in some ways. but every president in their second term is looking at their legacy. and i know that this president is looking at his legacy. and frankly, i think chuck would agree, on the issue of immigration reform, he did literally everything that we think was productive in this whole scenario. >> even on the issue of benghazi where mccain was relentless in criticizing the white house before the 2012 election. after helping to derail susan rice's candidacy for secretary of state in december. by june, john mccain was saying he would, quote, make every effort to work with her in her role as national security adviser. mccain credits white house chief of staff dennis mcdonna.
they talk as often as five times a kay. this isn't the first time mccain has gone from thorn in the side to legislative partner as he acknowledges. >> when president bush was president and i said rumsfeld ought to resign, voted against his tax revisions. then president obama was elected and obama care is the first agenda item out of the box and i fought tooth and nail against it. well, it's the grumpy old man. i allege that i didn't even joy losing. but i also allege that it was both a mischaracterization. i've always been results oriented. >> mccain was a thorn in the side of george w. bush. mccain's anti-obama streak was so violent in 2010 it helped
beat back a tea party challenge. there's one common denominator. mccain likes being in the center of the action. may simply be he's an institutionalist at heart. will this political partnership be the key to any real compromise? let's bring in today's gaggle. from the center for american progress, daniela gibbs lege. and the author of soon to be leased book collision 2012. welcome, all. we now know why there's not a great mccain biography by the way. how do you do it better? just turn mccain on, oral history, self-examination. but the new john mccain in many ways is the old john mccain. what's your explanation? >> the new john mccain is like the john mccain sort of 1999/2000. >> people forget he did the same thing with clinton. in the last couple years, he
tried to work with him. >> when he says, you know, results oriented. he is resulted oriented. he does like to get things done. he is something of an institutionalist in the senate. there are times he'll go after a president of his own party or different party. we know one thing, when this relationship started out, when obama was a senator, there was not a lot of respect there from, you know, from the direction of mccain toward -- >> right and he felt like obama wasn't -- didn't -- >> he did not think that senator obama walked the walk about bipartisan, compromise. he thought in the end obama was unwilling to take on his own party. and i think that colored his sense of obama's character. >> and he never really got around to it. conservatives these days, some of them saying, told you so about mccain. the same old mccain we hated for
so long. >> exactly right. even though mccain is getting headline, at the end of the day, the center of gravity is not just mccain, it's mcconnell cutting deals with vice president biden, ted cruz shaping the debate. >> i'm with robert here, on one hand, i get john mccain's a willing partner should you want to throw the bipartisan thing on there. immigration got done because of marco rubio. >> that's right, but i think you can't downplay the role mccain did play. i think you -- i think you're right, there are other players on the republican party who are sitting there nashing their teeth at all the interviews he's been giving. the president and other democrats are right to highlight the fact john mccain has been willing, now, to work with the president on these things and to draw a distinction between people like ted cruz who is focused on 2016, let's be honest, and willing to work with the president to get something done. i think you're right, that he is
resulted oriented, and maybe he's finally over 2008. maybe it took him this long to get over losing that really hard campaign and realize his legacy's important to him too. >> it also brings out a differen difference, there is a split in the republican party. there are republicans who believe in legislating. and there is now a growing c contingent that say legislating only grows government, that's a bad thing. >> the comment from the speaker a week ago, you know, we should not be judged on the number of laws we pass, we should be judged on the number of laws we repeal. >> that was music to -- >> what you see is -- in the -- there is more of an instinct to legislate in the senate. the way the senate rules work. you have to be more of a compromiser in the senate to get things done. in the house, it's majority rules. >> is this a tm pressuemporary ? the sort of anti-legislating movement? i don't know how else to describe it.
>> i think mccain is pretty strategic. look what he did on immigration. >> knew that if he took the front seat -- >> knew it burned the right. and i think right now what he's doing with the white house is trying to get the republican party away from tagging obama care to a debt limit fight. he thinks it would be bad for republican politics. >> why do i sense we're on the verge of mccain doing something to just make sure people know he's anti-obama on something? >> i'm sure it's coming. >> it's coming. >> it's going to be a slap at the white house they don't see coming. >> they may not see it coming but i'm sure they're aware something is coming. >> after we do ralph nader, want to talk about rand paul versus chris christie, the other interesting divide inside the republican party. spoiler alert, the man some say ended al gore's presidential hopes is now looking to up-end the two-party system again. ralph nader with his billion dollar idea. okay, a? b?
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ralph nader is no stranger to presidential politics and he's got planned to put a stamp on the 2016 race. today, deep dive into what the man who became synonymous with third party politics in this century spis planning this time around. a desire to shake up the status quo. he's been a thorn in the side of the washington elite for years. after receiving a law degree from harvard, started his career as a public advocate focusing on consumer safety. became a household name after he pushed the auto industry to focus on safety features in their cars. air bags are standard these days thanks to his effort. he's spoken out on a number of issues including worker safety. he may be best known and perhaps most criticized by some of his old supporters for his 2000 presidential run that some say would have gone to al gore if
nader hadn't siphoned off crucial votes in places like florida or new hampshire. nader is unapologetic in his criticism of the two-party system. >> the political bigotry that's involved here is that we shouldn't enter the electorate arena? all of us who think that the country needs an infusion of freedom, democracy, choice, dissent, should just sit on the sidelines and watch the the two parties own all the voters? >> he ran twice more in 2004 and 20 2008 but he failed to capture 1% of the vote. ralph nader has been for the left what some say the tea party is right now for the right, the party's establishment agitator. fast forward to 2013. nader says he's finished as a candidate himself but not as a potential power broker. here's what he told politico a couple weeks ago. >> i'm going to find at least ten enlightened billionaires or multibillionaires and i'm going
to have a criteria. have they spoken out about where they think the country's going and are they worried about it? and have they done things reflecting some sort of civic enlightenment and courage. and are they able to communicate? obviously they have the money. and i'm going to encourage them to run. >> so what does the consumer advocate turned politician and now hopeful power broker have planned these days? mr. nader joins me now. i want to start, i guess the most surprising thing to me was not the part about finding someone to get involved but what's sort of this, well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, money is dominating politics in a way we've never seen before and you're fine with saying let's go find one of these billionaires, instead of funding a superpac, maybe i can get him to run for president. >> fighting fire with fire it the system is a two-fire tyranny. third parties are excluded from debates, pushed off ballots, harassed, litigated against. i have some experience with
that. and it's just not going to work. at least on the first round. we saw perro got 19 million votes even after he dropped out and came back in. bloomberg could have turned it into a three-way race. my suggestion is not necessarily these billionaires are going to go all the way to november but they canning chan change the ag can go independent and change the agenda. look at all the things that are off the table for the two parties that are on the minds of the american people. free medical care. free choice of doctor and hospital. majority support. cracking down on corporate crime. everybody wants it. off the table. it's not on the agenda of obama and mccain in '08. giving people minimum wage equal to 1968. 30 million workers today are making less than 1968. off the table. i mean, even in 2012, obama never mentioned it.
so when major redirection to the country that can help the american people in a time of real pressure and stress are off the table, isn't it time for new kinds of candidates? >> tell me this. so you put out this sort of clarion call for billionaires. what kind of response do you get? >> it was just an interview with politico. now i've reached the big time on msnbc. >> have you gotten much response? >> really haven't done the formal one yet. he eked it out of me. i'm going through a lot of lists of billionaires. in due time i'll have a number of suggestions. >> there are some people who are going to hear you say this two-party duopoloy and all this stuff. and they actually seem further apart in ways. in 2000 when you said the two parties were alike, it was obvious. bush and gore tried to sound alike. they tried to make it so that you didn't know why party they
were from. that's not where the public sees the two parties anymore. there's an identity to both of them. >> inside the beltway, analysis, chuck, if you'll forgive me -- >> no, no, no. >> partly because the republicans have got into a crazed dimension, the right wing of the republican party is now so crazy that they wouldn't even support robert taft. they wouldn't support ice eisenhower. so that creates the divide. if you look at major issues, foreign policy. what's the difference between hillary and mccain? you have corporate crime. neither have a law and order enforcement to deal with environment, worker safety. and just the unfair tax system for example. so you go into one area after another. apart from the social issues, which i'll agree with you, pro lirve life, anti-choice, et cetera, that's where the focus of the
media is. immigration. division on that for example. on the domination of corporate power over our political economy, military industry complex, wall street crashes, the economy. they're not that different. elizabeth warren may be different. but generally speaking, the white house and the congress are not that different. >> how would you describe president obama? >> he's a corporatist under a liberal sheen. so therefore he never speaks out against corporate crime. he'll go all the way to india to promote harley davidson motorcycles but he won't go to wall street. remember that academy award guy who won that documentary, he said, not a single one of these culprits on wall street went to jail. they're focusing on insider trading. that's the big issue? it's collapsing billions of dollars of pensions. mutual funds, the savings of the american people, 8 million out
of work, no one's responsible? we have a no fault government pursuing the no fault corporate state. that's not the american way. >> ralph nader, i am going to pause our conversation here because one of the questions i have for you that we're going to do in a post show interview is where's the progressive left and where's the future of the progressive left. so pause there a few moments. we'll tape after the show. his latest book is called "told you so." he's pretty fired up. after the show, we'll have more with ralph nader on our website. we'll talk, as i said, about whether it's not only realistic for a third party in this country but also the future of the progressive left. that's on rundown.msnbc.com. the only place you'll find our political planner as well. check it out every day. meanwhile, for the first time in knee l nearly three year, the palestinians are going to come back to the negotiating table. in egypt, perhaps the most pressing middle east problem, there's more violence today thanks to supporters of ousted
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peace deal he makes. today's negotiations will just be talks about talking. like where and when future talks will be held. it is a very, very, very, very first step frankly. the effort to restart the stalled peace talks comes as so many other parts of the middle east frankly are on fire. literally and figuratively. from syria to iraq to egypt. where more than 80 people, mostly supporters of the muslim brotherhood, were killed in clashes with police. i thought the weekend's events acknowledgement that president morsi, the ousted president, is still in custody, is undergoing integration. that could not be doing much to help calm the protesters down from the muslim brotherhood and the supporters of morsi, does it not? >> you're absolutely ride. it has been one of the major sticking points here. how the former president and some of his advisers have been treated since he's been removed
from power has angered so many of the protesters. it is what's fueling so much of the anger against the current government and military. many say they want the president reinstated, saying he's being treated inhumanely. the government has tried to deflect that criticism by saying activists have tried to go meet with the president. he refused to meet with them, insisting he was still the president of the country. under that meeting, as we understand it, the activists were able to confirm they were being treated well, they were being held in this location for their own security. nonetheless, it has given mo mon momentum to the protesters to continue dom demonstrations that he be releasingreleasing e eed . one effort is being led by the european union's chief foreign officer. she is in town, she has met with the military leader, has met
with the interim government, meeting with the representatives from the muslim brotherhood. trying to negotiate some kind of government. >> very quickly, bringing charges -- i mean, any charges that are brought against morsi, that's not going to do anything other than fuel these protests, is it not? >> absolutely. it's going to fuel them. going to anger them. many people here say it is completely counterproductive to the road map they're trying to build, an inclusive political process. many feel if he is charge it will derail any process. >> a potentially very tense day in those protests. trivia time. the most recent senator elected not as a democrat, a republican or independent but on another party line was james buckley of
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the people who want to criticize me and call names, they are precisely the same people who are unwilling to cut the spending and they are gimme, gimme, gimme all of my sandy money now. they are bankrupt and not letting enough money to be over for the defense. i think those people that are making us weak in defense. i didn't start this one and i don't plan on starting things by
criticizing other republicans but if they want to make me the target, you know, they will get it back in spades. >> well, that was kentucky senator rand paul last night firing back at new jersey chris christie. the two in a spat over national security that boils down to security hawks down to libertarians. robert, this is your beef. >> oh, yeah. >> wow. we saw this come from peter king first. he sort of launched this broad side against rand paul and clearly felt as if this was donor driven. whatever it is he is hearing from the manhattan republican elites and, bang, christie joined in and rand paul wants to fight back. >> it may be early but the civil war for the republicans on. >> national review said it was a republican civil war. not the big bad liberal media. >> no, "national review." everybody is fighting and it's spilling out into the open.
when have you paul versus pete king and paul versus chris christie, it's not just a battle over ideology but it's getting nasty. >> it is personal. what is interesting here to me is it's not unlike what happened to the democrats where this opened up this war between sort of the howard dean wing of the party at the time and the old clinton wing of the party and they were feuding pretty publicly. you are rahm versus howard dean and it was the two but they are having a fight at the time and it too was over the national security. it was obama on one side and hillary on the other and we know what went out. it's interesting national security is right now the thing that is splitting the party. >> i think the question in my mind is this tactical or strategic? christie has gotten himself into a position people say he can't win the republican nomination because he is not conservative enough so he comes at rand paul in a way that appeals to some of the base of the conservative part of the party.
rand paul is still, i think, trying to figure out and present a more coherent sense of what libertarianism really is and might also get him the nomination. his father was a libertarian and always had a ceiling and the we for rand paul is can he get a bigger share of the republican vote than his father did? >> what is interesting when you hear rand paul talk about 2016 he relishes the idea if he gets the -- we heard ralph nader refer to hillary clinton as a general. she is too hawkish on foreign policy and rand paul says i will be to her left on foreign policy. he thinks that is an asset and others think it's a problem. >> on the left i have my popcorn and i think it's very exciting. i agree. it's all about 2016. i always thought that christie after the sandy thing would look for his first opportunity to show his conservative
credentials so it doesn't surprise me. >> shameless plugs? >> "national review" we have a lot of great reporting coming up. >> a book that looks at the upcoming demographic changes and what we need to do to be prepared for it. check it out. >> this is launch week for post tv. we will have two politically programs launching this week that you can get on our website. >> i didn't hear. you said something about television rival? i don't know. no, no. next week, we are plugging the heck out of your book. can't wait for collision 2012. my shameless plug, congratulations on a heck of a run on "meet the press." we have a lot more work to do at nbc and msnbc in politics. that is it for this edition of "the daily rundown." coming up next, chris jansing. bye-bye. ther. ther. on a walk, walk, walk. love to walk.
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good monday morning. i'm chris jansing. another big push this week from president obama to focus on the economy, specifically narrowing the gap in income inequality and comes fast food workers are walking off the job this morning in seven cities. they are protesting low pay and calling for a living wage about $15 an hour. the one-way walk jaws have been growing and while their wages are staying the same the average way for ceos jumped 16% last year. here is another stat relieved today. 4 out of 5 adults will be unemployed near poverty or need welfare for at least part of their lives. 4 out of 5 here in the united states. president obama told "the new york times" the income gap is fraying the social fabric of the country. >> there was a sense of not upward mobility in the abstract, it was part and parcel of w
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