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and oh, yeah, what i say to exactly. everyone who's kind enough to the thing that's really say hello to me when i'm on vacation, when you bump into me interesting is the relation in d.c. or new york or philly, between what happened in 1953 or somewhere else, it's this. thanks for being part of all this. and the hostage crisis in 1979. which all americans know about. that's "hardball." especially after the movie thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts "argo" young, more americans right now. know about it. how the two things are completely related. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. and how that came to happen tonight on "all in," it's all-out war in the battle over after, you know -- >> yet we know we don't know the policy of racial profiling, the, the average american does known as stop and frisk. ben jealous of the naacp will be know about the hostage crisis. not necessarily what happened here in just a moment. also tonight, chris christie's wild weekend. on friday night the governor went hard right then he came with mosadeq in 1953. back today, a monday morning there's something similar in egypt which is the prehistory of moderate. 30 years of government apart we see what you're doing, chris from mubarak is known by every christie. single egyptian everywhere. >> exactly. plus, if you're into secret >> we are now watching this little sliver of history play out and thinking why are they so government documents mad at us? >> exactly. acknowledging stuff you sort of iran, we've had 35 years of no relations are iran. already maybe thought you knew, nuclear crisis. we have all the kinds of fights we have with iran. iran is the big enemy. it's been a cool few days. last week we saw an and it's because of these two acknowledgement that area 51 events. first the coup then '79, the hostage crisis. not necessarily the revolution, exist and this weekend an itself, but certainly the hostage crisis was related to the coup. acknowledgement the cia really the iranians were convinced the u.s. was going to do the same thing in '79. it became a politicized event. the two are very related.
did orchestrate a coup in 1953. the reason the americans want that is coming up. the iranians to apologize is the we begin tonight with stop and risk and racial profiling front and center and dominating the national stage. despite or perhaps because of a reason the iranians want the multi-pr offensive waged in americans to apologize for the coup in the first place. defense of the new york police if you look anywhere in the department's policy. an offense of which began last week in response to a judge third world in the developing finding the nypd's stop and world where america has had an frisk violated the constitutional rights of people influence, whether south america, central america, look at venezuela, other countries, of color in new york. it intensified this weekend when nypd commissioner ray kelly who not just the middle east. there's a deep, deep suspicion remains a top candidate for the of what -- >> sometimes the full picture of that is occluded to us in the head of the department of u.s. homeland security appeared on "meet the press" to defend his record. nbc news contributor, thanks for >> if a program like stop and your time. >> thank you. frisk is abandoned, will people we'll be right back with #click3. die? >> well, i think no question about it, violent crime will go up. again, this is not a program. this is something that's integral to policing. this happens throughout america. and any police jurisdiction. you have to do it. >> that appearance coincided
with a predictably defensive editorial by mayor michael bloomberg in the "washington post" in which the mayor took turns defending stop and frisk and attacking the "washington post," itself, and others were criticizing the practice saying "the men and women who protect our city from criminals and terrorists deserve better than to have their integrity impugned in a courtroom or a newspaper especially when the facts are so clearly on their side." even today speaking at a press conference, touting the largest gun seizure in new york history, both men looked to play up the role of stop and frisk in getting guns off the street. >> wiretap conversations from this investigation show that one of the gun traffickers' biggest concerns was stop, question, frisk. >> campbell didn't want to risk it being found by new york police and is heard saying, "yeah. i'm in charlotte now. i can't take them to my house,
to my side of town, in brownsville. we got, like, watchamacallit, stop and frisk. >> mayor bloomberg and commissioner kelly doubling down and repeating the same statements again and again over stop and frisk is not having the intended ill impact. sybrina made the connection that drives stop and frisk and the suspicion that ended up taking the life of trayvon martin. >> you have to give the police officers the right direction. you can't give people the authority whether a civilian or police officers the right to just stop somebody because of the color of their skin. >> back in new york city, front-runner in the mayoral raise, bill de blasio catapulted into first place because of his opposition to stop and frisk. this morning he unveiled his second ad on the topic. >> there are hundreds of thousands of new yorkers who never experienced stop and frisk. we talked to dante many times
about the fact someday he will be stopped. parents all over the city are having that conversation with their kids. >> bill de blasio, to end the stop and frisk era. >> bill de blasio is in an uncommon position for a white man having a son who will likely be stopped and frisked by the nypd. that's not true of michael bloomberg. a small, amazingly revealing moment, he, quote, conceded to "the new yorker," "if i had a son no was stopped, i might feel differently about it." joining me, ben jealous of the naacp. you heard ray kelly and michael bloomberg saying the big gun seizure was thanks partly to stop and frisk. there is breaking news this evening and we are scrambling why are you standing in the way for details. but i can tell you at this of the effective gun control moment is it appears the obama family has a new dog. first lady michelle obama first measure done in new york city to tweeted a photo of this new dog make the streets safer here? in and the white house followed up with video announcement. >> well, because quite frankly, it's a girl dog. effective police work focused on the name is sunny.
it's a portuguese water dog like the first dog, bo. we'll bring you more details as they become available. behavior is what gets guns off the street. first i want to share three stop and frisk doesn't. awesomist things on the internet today. you know, in 2011, we had about 700,000 stop and frisks in the we begin with, of course, quadrocopters. city. 680,000. remote controlled super and they pulled about 700 guns off the street. maneuverable high flying that means that 99.9% of the awesomeness. they're everywhere these days stop and frisks didn't yield any often with an hd videocamera guns. attached bringing us new and if you want to get 700 guns off the street, well, you can do it through a big seizure like they did today or do it by an spectacular views of places like niagara falls, falling high effective gun buyback program. above the university of notre and either way, you would be dame and australia. it's a matter of time before we saw our first quadrocopter much more effective than the deployed to get the elusively amount of hours it takes, if you romantic low altitude fly-by shot. can imagine, to do 700,000 stop it takes a steady hand. and frisks. sometimes involving one cop, sometimes involving multiple cops. >> naacp is, of course, a national organization, oldest civil rights organization in the u.s. you have chapters everywhere. why are you so focused on new oh, the memories that will last forever. the stitches, they'll come out york city and stop and frisk? in a week or two. for folks who are watching who don't live in new york city, is this bigger than new york city? the photographer who posted the video to youtube says no one was >> yes, this is the biggest seriously injured. the bride and groom were good natured and insisted he post the video for the world to see.
racial profiling program in the the second awesomest thing on country, biggest racial the internet today from buzz feed. profiling, maybe in the world. mayor bloomberg tried to get the it's the rally in support of mayor of san francisco to mayor bob filner of san diego. replicate his program. we brought you the ongoing story back then he was saying it was a program. of bob filner before. now he's trying to switch pr tactics. he's been charged by over a the mayor said thank you but no dozen women of committing all because it is just a phenomenal waste of resources and it's not sorts of sexually harassing effective. behavior. i mean, just break this down, he's been accused of being a chris. serial groper and took a leave of absence to undergo therapy. you kind of roll the tape back a there's even a group of people bit. back in 2002, as kelly was willing to publicly support the taking over, he was very clear man. that he saw stop and frisk as if you're wondering what kind of dubious. snappy things do you chant at a he was very clear that actually pro-bob filner rally? he was against racial profiling. >> what do we want? >> due process. he'd come out of u.s. customs >> when do we want it? >> now. >> what do we want? >> due process. >> when do we want it? >> now. >> due process is good, but you where he'd been very effective know what's even better? in increasing the productivity personal testimonials. >> i have not been the recipient
of searches by customs by ending racial profiling. of sloppy kisses. he also said that you can't and i have met mr. filner on many occasions. really take credit for drop in crime. there are others who are, but that it was like taking credit for an eclipse of the moon. and he, of course, was referring to his predecessor, bill bratton. i've never had that opportunity. bill bratton, three-quarters of >> so there you have it. and finally, understand the third awesomest thing on the the drop in homicides in new internet today, you need to go york city since its high point in the early 1990s -- >> happened during that period. all the way back to february >> yeah, happened during that 2004 when season 2, episode 5 of period. the "chappelle" show aired on >> let me ask you this. "comedy central." you raise the specter of ray kelly. ray kelly has been a very charlie murphy told the hollywood story about the time stalwart defender of his department's approach. he and his crew played basketball with prince and the believes genuinely he's saving revolution. >> never judge a book by its people's lives. saving black and brown people's cover. lives. he's been floated as possible head of dhs. >> play ball. given this policy and how associated with it, how stalwart >> he was crossing. defender, what do you think of the possibility of ray kelly being nominated to head dhs? >> i think that it is possible me gets nominated. i think if he gets nominated, he was getting rebounds like charles barkley. shoot it. >> oh, prince the revolution won the game and inexplicably brought murphy and his crew back inside for pancake breakfast. he'll face the fiercest fast forward nine years and the
opposition from the civil rights community that any person put actual artist, prince, using the forward by president obama ever has. it will be vocal and outspoken handle @3rdeyegirl joined because he has chosen to be vocal and outspoken about racial twitter. profiling. i'm not sure that, frankly, he really believes in this. friday he nearly broke the at the very least, he was against racial profiling before he was for if. internet when he tweeted "game he thought stop and frisk was dubious before he became its blouses" along with a youtube biggest champion. link to the new single "breakfast can wait." and -- dave chappelle as prince holding >> well, he's definitely -- there's been a trajectory. there's been some movement. a tray of pancakes. here's part of the song. i'm willing to grant. ♪ i ain't trying to make you ben jealous from the naacp. blush but i wanted to tell you i thank you so much. i appreciate it. think you're great ♪ >> thank you, chris. joining me now, ryan grim, ♪ i need another taste ♪ breakfast can wait washington bureau chief for the "washington post." ray kelly, head of new york >> that's not a joke. city's police department, which that's the actual album cover, actual song. is a big job, on sunday shows callback nine years in the making. talking about stop and frisk as download the song at thirditunes.com. a central issue, and i'm just curious, what was your read of the political subtext of those find all the links for appearances? tonight's #click3 on our >> you know, he's in a difficult website, allinwithchris.com. we'll be right back. my mantra? position here because, you know, he's been floated now for a long time as a likely pick here. i know obama tends to leave people out there for a long time.
it happened to susan rice. it happened to larry summers. and it's difficult. he's most associated with stop and frisk, but like ben jealous said, he might not actually believe in it, but because he's so associated with it, he just has to come out and say it. i thought it was awfully revealing of kind of where the media lead is, the way gregory trust your instincts to make the call. to treat my low testosterone, came out and said, will this plead to more people dying? my doctor and i went with axiron, he essentially was baiting ray kelly to say if you change this the only underarm low t treatment. policy, you will have blood on your hands. axiron can restore t levels to normal he sort of took the bait but in about 2 weeks in most men. didn't exactly go there. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 he knows he's in a really tough spot because this is such a or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant controversial issue nationally. it doesn't -- it doesn't wear as well nationally. and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children if new york was the only city in the world, a lot of new yorkers often think it is, you'd think, or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. oh, there was stop and frisk and report these symptoms to your doctor. crime came down so stop and frisk must have driven crime tell your doctor about all down. medical conditions and medications. washington, we don't do this. serious side effects could include increased risk you don't get asked for your of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; papers, don't get stopped by cops when you're walking down decreased sperm count; ankle, feet or body swelling;
the street in washington and crime has plummeted here. enlarged or painful breasts; how do you explain that if problems breathing while sleeping; you're ray kelly? and blood clots in the legs. >> what i think is fascinating, common side effects include i'm curious what you think of skin redness or irritation where applied, this from your perch in increased red blood cell count, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, and increase in psa. washington, is we have seen i think in the wake of trayvon martin's death and the acquittal of george zimmerman, the florida ask your doctor about the only underarm low t treatment, dream defenders down in florida, ray kelly, michael bloomberg, axiron. mayoral race and the judge's decision and the president's comments on this, this remarkable confluence, unlike any i've ever seen that put this issue, our criminal justice system, racial profiling within it. its disproportionate effect on black and brown people. right in the center of the national debate. is it being felt in washington where it has, in my opinion, for years been completely absent? >> yeah, it very much is and it really is for the first time in more than 20 years, because, you know, republicans ran effectively, you know, through the late '60s and '70s and into the '80s painting democrats as soft on crime.
so they did the same thing they did with welfare reform. they said, we're not going to win this issue, let's just throw them under the bus. they got really tough on crime. you know, joe biden was really kind of the leading drug warrior in the senate, both republican and democratic. and that kind of took the issue off the table and instead of there being a debate about it, it was who was tougher. who could get more, you know, who could rough more people up, who could be more in favor of more police on the streets who would give them more military-grade weapons -- >> longer sentences. >> exactly. >> this is the thing, this is the key truth, ryan, if an issue in washington is not being debated by democrats and republicans, it ceases to exist. no matter how much effect it has on lives of millions of americans. msnbc contributor ryan grim. thank you so much. >> thank you. our latest installment of "i see you politician who's trying to get away with something" features the governor of new jersey. chris christie. who spent the past few days probably hoping no one noticed what he did on friday night and everyone noticed what he did on monday morning.
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intellectual integrity, you believe what you believe in. you know the literature. monty on new jersey voters. national primary voters and the national local press. check it out. today governor christie signed but the avik roys of the world, a-3371 into law, a bill that bans licensed therapists from attempting so-called gay the republican base is not reading it. conversion therapy on minors. they're not listening to whatever you're saying, here's way to fit obama care so it there are no cameras or looks conservative and gets photographers present, but the people the health care their governor released a statement want. they want to burn it to the saying "the american ground. is there any way to convince them otherwise? psychological association has >> i think that even mike lee found efforts to change sexual and ted cruz and those guys, why orientation can pose critical are they pursuing the shutdown strategy? they said it's because once the health risks including but not subsidies for obama care start, then there's no turning back. limited to depression, substance jim demint had an op-ped in the abuse, social withdrawal, decreased self-esteem and suicidal thoughts. i believe exposing children to these health risks without clear "wall street journal" and said evidence of benefits that outweigh serious risks is not we're reaching the point of no appropriate. return with obama care. based upon this analysis, i signed this bill into law." now, that's a perfectly good thing to do. it shouldn't be a difficult decision since minors should not if we held them to those statements -- >> here's what i don't be subjected to something that understand about that. if the program is as much a the american psychological disaster as people on the right are warning it will be, then i don't understand why letting it association is basically calling to actually be implemented won't be self-refuting. right? child abuse. even if the subsidies kick in and the whole thing is poorly engineered and poorly executed but okay. as everyone on the right is
telling me it's going to be, it will be a big policy disaster and the president is going to take a hit and the democratic that a boy, chris christie. this is, after all, what we party will, and they'll deserve might expect from a governor for to if it doesn't work for people. a state that went for president obama by 17 points in the last election. this past friday, however, why not let that go forward? another chris christie was at work and that chris christie did something after 6:00 p.m. in the >> some people have that view summer on a friday when all the reporters had gone for the weekend. that that's what should happen. that chris christie vetoed a ban on a military sniper rifle, the of course a law can be rewarding barrett .50 caliber long-range for some groups and punishing rifle. here's the big military rifle. a weapon that has no plausible for some. civilian use. it's more or less a war toy for it's not uniform in its effects. the concern of a lot of people amateur gun enthusiasts. on the right, there will be people who benefit. the people who benefit from the the ban was one previously insurance subsidies in particular. called for, wait for it, chris christie, himself, last april. the people not qualified for the subsidies, despite the law's he says the bill goes too far by efforts to do otherwise, those are the people who are going to be concerned and it will be a prohibiting current owners from train wreck for them. >> but if a train wreck for keeping their guns. them, like, if it is a train wreck for them, if you want to have a political cage match between two kinds of voters, one it could be a group called pro-gun new hampshire, is someone who is making just interesting state, rallied out of state gun supporters to push christie to veto the bill with above poverty, working class 2016 in mind. this is the chris christie dance, and it's the one we'll person who qualifies for a subsidy. get to see as he runs for one of them is a person with a lot more money. we saw their premiums jacked. re-election this year in a state let me tell you who's going to win the political cage fight. if the concern is about the politics of this, it's going to with lots of liberals but be the upper middle class person
positions himself with who saw their premium jacked conservatives ahead of 2016, but who's going to make their representative scream bloody keep this in mind, as soon as election day hits in november, if chris christie wins the murder in washington, d.c. second term, there will be no immediate need to strike such a balancing act. this isn't about policy, right? no new jersey liberals to be concerned about. freaky friday will not be followed by moderate monday. it's about destroying the president or it's about taking a joining me now is barbara buono, democratic state senator, who's a candidate for governor of new chunk of his hide out or it's jersey. senator, what do you think about these two bills? about just saying across this line, you shall not pass. as opposed to -- the first bill, the bill the >> it's definitely not that. there is a view. the view among the base, i think governor signed today and the the typical view of a base voter bill on friday he vetoed? for the republicans is we had a free market health care system before obama care was passed. >> well, you know, over the obama care was passed. it was a government takeover of the health care system. weekend the governor really, that's what we've got to stop. if we don't, we've lost the war governor straight-talk really against big government. came clean, portrays himself as >> i must interject neither of those things are true. a social moderate. we did not have -- >> that's the -- >> that is what they're the only thing motivating him is reflecting. his singular attempt to become the republican nominee for president of the united states. >> that's exactly the thing. and so on friday, profiles in courage, he decides to veto gun what i try to do when i'm the bills that, as you said, he polite explainer is to say we actually had a heavily actually came out in support of. >> let me push back on that. government-involved system to if that's the case, the only begin with, since at least 1965, thing that's motivating him is to become the nominee in 2016, possibly before, arguably before. the affordable care act is an incremental advance of that but
why do we get today's bill not the government takeover, you know, if you can't look at it in banning this practice which is not going to curry favor with isolation, you have to look at republican primary voters? this whole, you know -- >> he's trying to thread the needle. you'll see that when he -- it was very telling when he was questioned by reporters on this bill when it first came out. >> what do people say to you what do you think of gay conversion? his initial reaction, unfiltered, authentic christie reaction, i need to know more about it. when you say that? what more do you need to know, chris christie? do you get traction as being a polite explainer? >> they are persuaded, but, you know, i'm doing so in relatively small audiences, not to hundreds gay and conversion, you put of millions of people. right? i think when you show the data, those two words together. the data is very clear. if you look, for example, government spending on health it's about punishing our care in the united states, it's the fourth highest in the developed world. children, trying to convince our fourth highest in the world, therefore. children they're not what they there's only three countries in are. >> you're saying this was a calculation, political the developed world that spend more in terms of public spending calculation. >> everything he does is a political calculation. per capita on health care in the >> he's a politician. you're a politician, too. >> it's true. his calculations are to the detriment of the people of new united states. jersey. the one difference is he is driven by his singular ambition that's in 2010, before the -- to become the nominee for president of the united states >> before the affordable care and the people of new jersey are act. going to be left behind. >> when i explain, people start you can see it in everything he to scratch their heads, you're on to something. does.
>> i want to talk about what is if you're watching, he vetoed the path from talking to a small amount of people to millions of people for the conservative wonk women's health funding. avik roys of the world, and wonk ezra klein is going to join me and we're going to script to you a strategy to get you out of this little box. right when we come back. he vetoed funding for plan the all right. she loves a lot of the same things you do. parenthood. it was a purely -- >> new jersey voters love him. his approval ratings are high. he's doing very well. the people, the political analysts, i don't like to predict anything, says he's cruising to re-election, that you're not going to beat him. what's the problem? are new jersey voters getting hoodwinked? do they not realize what they're getting in chris christie? >> people in new jersey and in general don't focus on the election until after labor day traditionally. when you talk to people and they realize, when they know because of this governor, we have property taxes that have gone up 20%, we have one of the highest rates of unemployment in the nation. the highest -- >> extremely high. >> -- in the region. under this governor, we're one of the worst states to do businesses. our rankings have actually dropped as a good place to do business. this is a governor who tries to portray himself as a social
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strong words about new jersey governor chris christie. the cia releasing redacted documents has to do with the currently unfolding crisis in egypt, when we come back. all right. joining me now, the editor of the one and only wonk blog at the "washington post," ezra klein. ezra, i wanted you to respond to avik. as someone who follows this incredibly closely, is there enough time to bridge the gap between perception and reality of what the affordable care act is and represents in american politics? in time to avert something disastrous and catastrophic this fall when possibly republicans try to force some kind of shutdown? >> i question your premise, sir. >> please. >> i don't think bridging the gap matters that much. number one, two the republican shutdown threat, it's not going to happen. they don't have the support in house. the elders in senate, rational
minds in the senate clearly seem to be -- i'd be very surprised. doesn't mean it can't happen. if i was placing my bet, i'd put a probability on the republican-led shutdown. maybe this prediction will have egg on my face in a couple months, but there it is. the secondary part is about bridging this sort of broad perceptual gap. often contributes to, as much as he's a good guy and wonk, i think it would be fair to say he emphasizes the negative and doesn't always give a balanced portrayal of the law. in a broad sense, i don't think this political conversation over the law matters very much. come october and come months after that, we are going to see the actual law begin, and most people will never interface with something called obama care. in california, they will see this thing called covered california. in washington state it will be i think the washington health connector or something. it will either work for them or be affordable for them or won't be. it won't be about the political conversation. >> that i somewhat agree with which was the point i was trying to make it avik. let. play out. if it's as bad as you say it is, won't it be bad for the president?
i do think there is a way that kind of narratives of disaster do get caught up into the media universe, and ezra, particularly because so few people interface with actually the thing, itself, is does seem to me it would be possible that a media narrative of disaster does get created even embedded by people who actively want to see the thing fail to point you do create political, real political backlash that then does have policy consequences because people then in washington are trying to fix something that isn't actually broken. >> i think one thing to bring up there is when you pass a law on party lines, that tension, that dynamic is more present. if there's -- >> they could have passed it with republican votes, everyone would have loved it. >> we can look at 2009 another time. i think from an objective from a political science standpoint, that's the challenge. right? when you have one party that is opposed to the law and didn't support it to begin with, and has no stake in its success, and one part does -- >> can i say this? except for the stake of the human beings who have -- when you go out trying to get
something not to work. >> ezra, you at some point have to eventually pass laws. yes, it's true. it would have been a good idea for the party that was if power in 2009 to have tried to come to some compromise. i mean, one of the things may maybe could have done is to base their health care plan off the health care passed by a prominent presidential candidate. this gets a little ridiculous. the republicans refuse to come to the table to deal with a plan, they themselves proposed earlier. clearly a set of republican ideas were involved in them, though. then they say, well, this was a partisan plan you passed, so we can't support it. look, it is completely the case, here's a secret. you're not going to see this anywhere else. chris, you could have a media you want to know what's really narrative. driving the white house approach in fact, i almost assure you you will have a set of media to dealing with the chaos narratives based off very real unfolding in egypt right now? one theory being floated on implementation. my guess is the affordable care egyptian state television this week by a former constitutional act will not be a big boone and will be a net negative for democrats in 2014.
court justice involves president just as happened in medicare obama's brother being one of the part "d," a very tough bill and coordinators and founders of a rollout in its first year, as the bill gets on its feet, it muslim brotherhood investment. begins delivering a fair amount the idea being that somehow the of benefits. >> let me make a quick point here. president of the united states >> actually become very important because it does become essentially impossible to is through blood relations a repeal, although it doesn't secret muslim brotherhood become impossible to reform or supporter, an idea to dapt, i improve. don't think it would clear editorial standards. >> the morning consult did a people have been killed in an poll, where they showed if you ask people, 1,000 likely voters, escalating conflict in between what's the biggest problem with what are the country's ruling the health care system in america? military forces and supporter mohamed morsi, the muslim 75% it was the cost of insurance. brotherhood leader ousted from power last month. 11% said it was the uninsured. so will the affordable care act amid that, pretty much everyone make insurance less expensive? engaged in this fight in egypt >> it's a big outstanding question. right now is convinced utterly that the united states is already secretly aiding their the other thing about that, if people don't care about the enemies. uninsured, there are still tens of millions of people living mark lynch of "foreign policy" through absolutely unnecessary took note of the historical misery and i care about them and think a decent social contract level, writing, "longtime and decent society should care about them. i'm happy we're in this together observers of egyptian rhetoric and going to get those people have been taken aback by the health insurance. vitreal and sheer lunacy, the current wave of anti-american avik roy. msnbc policy analyst ezra klein rhetoric. questioning my premise. that is "all in" for this the rhetoric spans the political spectrum denouncing the united states is politically useful to every egyptian faction." evening.
it's easy to look at that kind the "rachel maddow show" starts of stuff and dismiss it, oh, now. good evening, rachel. it's the wacky conspiracy good evening, chris. thank you very, very much. theories of the arab street, thanks to you at home for people in that region are staying with us this hour. addicted to anti-americanism. okay. this is laura poitras, an we get news like we got today to remind us why conspiracy american filmmaker. she won a macarthur genius award theories are so powerful. the cia declassified a document last year. showing that 60 years ago they did, in fact, help engineer a miss poitras makes coup. documentaries. her first one was columbus, "a military coup that overthrew then-prime minister mosadeq was ohio, about gentrification in columbus, ohio. carried out under cia direction she's been working on a trilogy about the war in terror, starting with a documentary as an act of u.s. foreign about life in iraq under u.s. policy." control during the u.s. war in iraq. the second part tells the story mosadeq, head of a of two men from yemen including one who was a driver for osama democratically elected bin laden. government, was nonetheless regarded by the u.s. as a sinister and dangerous miss poitras is still working on the third installment in that character, subject to communist trilogy which is about u.s. influence. here's a report from the -- i'm not making this up -- camel news surveillance of phone calls and caravan, a news program e-mails and so on since 9/11. sponsored by camel cigarettes she posted a bit of that one last year on "the new york that aired on nbc just weeks before the cia engineered coup that ousted then-prime minister of iran. >> iran's mosadeq who creates
strength through -- received 99 9/10 of the vote. when mosadeq has a problem with the parliament, he goes to the people for a referendum to have it dissolved. there is no secret ballot. in fact, people supporting mosadeq vote in one place, people opposed vote in another. understandably, few oppose the skinny old man who controls the army and the police, and the supervisors at the opposition voting place have nothing to supervise. final returns in tehran, votes to dissolve the dually elected parliament. 67 votes against. mosadeq has won with communist support. can he get rid of his dangerous new friends? >> that's what the run-up to the cia engineered iranian coup looked like on american television. we knew for years the u.s.
played a role in that coup. six years after the fact we know officially from the cia, itself, they decided to get rid of the head of the democratically elected government in iran. with a completely brutal police force at his disposal. so let's keep all of this in mind as we watch the crisis in egypt unfold. joining me now is nbc news contributor, author of the upcoming book "the ministry of guidance invites you not to stay: an american family in iran." iran and egypt, different language, different histories. broadly, in the region in the middle east, the u.s. has had this role for 50 of 60 years. as you watch the rhetoric out of egypt and the american involvement, given the iranian
experience, how do you make sense of how people are viewing the americans as an actor in that region? >> it's what you said earlier about conspiracy theories gaining traction in the middle east or people thinking, wacky arabs or wacky persians believe anything. conspiracy theories often come true at least from the perspective of iranians or arabs or turks or anyone else who's been following american involvement in the region. i mean, for years and years ever since my childhood, we knew the cia and the british, by the way, cia and the mi6 conspired to overthrow mosadeq. everyone knew this. there are books written about it. unless you were an american who was really interested in iran, you kind of didn't know about it or thought, oh, come on, that's a conspiracy theory, we wouldn't do that. this really just tells you, as a fact, now, that they did, they're admitting it. although the u.s. did kind of express some regret for some involvement. madeleine albright did. >> the president mentioned it in his cairo speech.