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we decided to take a stand. look, you think obama care's a big enough threat to this country that you need to shut down the government over it? fine. own it. don't fart and point at the dog. >> well, the government's still closed and the major players keep talking except not to each other. now it goes beyond embarrassing. families of americans who die in military service not getting the money they are owed. also, new jersey governor chris christie pretty much a shoo-in for re-election, but in a heated debate, we learn more about his potential aspirations for the white house. and the rays looking to force a decisive game five against the red sox. highlights from a tense night in tampa bay. this is "way too early." from the sports perspective, october is the best. you've got baseball playoffs, nfl, college football, the nba
and the nhl start up. you really can't get much more than that for a sports fan. good morning. brian shactman, wednesday, october 9th. kanye and kimmel, they're set to meet after their little social media dust-up. we also have maybe one of the best celebrity impersonations of all time. we'll have that for you. but we begin with some historic news surrounding the federal reserve. just a few hours from now, president obama will nominate janet yellen as chairwoman of the fed. yellen would be the first woman ever to lead the central bank of this country. yellen currently the fed's vice chairwoman, she's been a key architect of the fed's plan to keep interest rates near record lows and with the fed buying trillions of dollars in bonds to support the economy. yellen would replace ben bernanke, of course, a close ally of hers whose term ends in january. we want to bring in andrew ross sorkin, host of "squawk box" and also the founder of "new york
times'" "deal book." the markets seem to be okay with it. tell our audience why. >> well, the expectation had been for at least the past couple weeks, once larry summers had dropped out of the race to even describe it as a race, but had had dropped out of the running, if you will, that she was going to get the role. and more importantly, she is considered what's called dovish in the business which means that she wants loose monetary policy. she's more likely to keep printing the money, if you will, which should help the stock market at least in the short term. of course, there are larger questions about what that means for the long term and whether all that printing of the money is ultimately helping get to the real economy and helping with the unemployment problem in this country. from a market perspective, it is clear that she is a winner. and by the way, what will be the most powerful woman i would argue now in the world. "the new york times" described her today as a little woman with a very big i.q., and that she is. >> yeah. and she seems not like the power-type person. i'm assuming there will be some
resistance in the approval process but nothing like with larry summers. we don't have a lot of time so i want to get to the debt ceiling and the default. we're getting clamoring from a bunch of people that may be defaulting wouldn't be such a bad thing. now, just tell me from the perspective of wall street and the people you talk to, is that silly talk? >> no. sadly, there is now real talk that we could default or at least we could go over what is this deadline on october 17th. and perversely, the more the market doesn't react. so the more you don't see the market cratering, and it was down yesterday, but the more it doesn't go into a complete tailspin, the less pressure there is going to be on washington and congresspeople to actually pass something. and therefore the greater chance, oddly enough, that we don't. and actually that we create a real crisis. >> andrew, are there smart people actually saying a default wouldn't be that big a deal? >> there are people like that. stan druckenmiller is one. there are people who believe
this needs to be used as a bargaining chip. i don't think there's anyone who truly believes that it is okay, but there are people who believe it is okay for a day or two or three. >> all right. andrew ross sorkin, as always, good to have you on the show. >> thank you, brian. appreciate it. >> andrew ross sorkin for us. now to the government shutdown where both republican and democratic lawmakers advancing measures to at least partially get the government back up and running. but as we begin day nine, president obama and house speaker john boehner appear to be no closer to a compromise. yesterday the president called the house speaker to reiterate that he will not negotiate with republicans until the shutdown has ended and the debt ceiling is raised. both men spoke about the crisis later in the afternoon. >> the american people do not get to demand a ransom for doing their jobs. you don't get a chance to call your bank and say i'm not going to pay my mortgage this month unless you throw in a new car and an xbox. imagine if a democratic congress threatened to crash the global economy unless a republican president agreed to gun
background checks or immigration reform. i think it's fair to say that republicans would not think that was appropriate. we can't make extortion routine as part of our democracy. democracy doesn't function this way. i know the american people are tired of it. and to all the american people, i apologize that you have to go through this stuff every three months, it seems like. and lord knows i'm tired of it. >> the long and short of it is there's going to be a negotiation here. in times like this, the american people expect their leaders to sit down and have a conversation. i want that conversation to occur now. the president said today was if there's unconditional surrender by republicans, he'll sit down and talk to us. that's not the way our government works. >> meanwhile, the house has passed a bill that would make sure government workers are paid on time instead of after the shutdown. the bill also creates a bipartisan negotiating team between the house and the senate to work on the debt limit. democrats have rejected another
so-called supercommittee. democrats in the senate, meanwhile, moving forward with a clean debt ceiling increase and looking to shore up republican support to bypass a filibuster. the deal would raise the debt ceiling through december 2014. the bodies of four soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice this weekend in afghanistan will arrive at dover air force base later today. the family of sergeant patrick hawkins and the others will have to pay their own way to delaware and pay out of their own pockets for their funerals. that's because the pentagon says it is unable to pay out death benefits because of the shutdown. that means any service member killed since october 1st will not receive the automatic $100,000 that is usually paid to families within 36 hours of a death for funeral costs. it's an issue that has led to outrage on both sides of the aisle. >> it's shameful and embarrassing that america could fail the families of our fallen heroes.
appalling, frightening. >> i don't care who it is or how it's shaped, but let's sit down and get out of this so that these families whose loved ones just died, just died, will receive the benefits at least that would give them some comfort and solace in this terrible hour of tragedy. >> the house of representatives is scheduled to vote on a bill today to restore those payments. now we go to the supreme court where it appears at least a part of the nation's campaign finance laws will be struck down. yesterday justices heard arguments on the limits of direct contributions from individuals to candidates. it's revisiting 2010's citizens united case. the courts seem divided over ideological lines. justice ginsburg said, "by having these limits, you are promoting democratic
participation, then the little people will count some, and you won't have the super-affluent as the speakers that will control the elections." just scalia weighed in saying, "big money can be in politics. the thing is you can't give it to the republican party or the democratic party, but you can start your own pac. i'm not sure that's a benefit to our political system." looks like chief justice roberts is expected to be the key vote here. he indicated he was open to a compromise on the law that would leave some restrictions on contributions intact. let's go to new jersey politics now where governor chris christie looks pretty much like a shoo-in as a second-term governor in the garden state. last night christie met his challenger, state senator barbara buono. the two candidates spoke on a lot of issues including christie's presidential aspirations. >> people have been talking about me running for president in this state since 2010. they all said i was going to do it in 2010. i said i wouldn't and i didn't. the fact is after 2017, i'm going to be looking for a new job anyway.
so as we go forward, i'm going to continue to do my job the best way i possibly can. and i am not going to declare tonight, christine, for you or for anybody else. >> governor, it doesn't bother me that you're running for president. what bothers me is how you're running for president. >> i can walk and chew gum at the same time, christine. i can do this job and also deal with my future, and that's exactly what i will do. >> a recent quinnipiac university poll had christie leading 64-30%. voters head to the polls in new jersey on tuesday, november the 5th. let's turn now to some economic news overseas. switzerland -- this is an interesting story -- they're going to hold a vote to grant an unconditional income of $2,800 a month for every adult living in the country. it comes after organizers collected more than 100,000 signatures need to do call for a referendum. the group behind the issue calls it a financial safety net and says it will be partially financed through the country's social insurance systems. pretty amazing. before we go to break, though, the topic of today's twitter question a little different. try to name this celebrity.
>> i'll get down and do, you know, some push-ups. and then i get up and maybe i'll go down again, and then i'll do some more push-ups. and the people, they laugh. they look at you and they're, like, man, i cannot believe you came here from austria to california. >> if you said arnold schwarzenegger, you're partially right. his chest is a lot smaller. that's a pretty awesome impression. that takes us to our question. who does your favorite celebrity impersonation -- the hash tag is #waytoospoton. here's one of my personal favorites. >> and then it will be the off-season where the colts' dwight freeney is expected to be the top free agent. that is, of course, if you don't count michael strahan's ex-wife. son of a gun, $15 million? >> that's frank caliendo. still ahead, might have a little company. a close call that may have changed the game in detroit.
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the throw to first not in time! and the red sox have taken the lead! >> not exactly a thrilling way to do it, but two outs, he beat the throw and they got the run. that made it 2-1. they'd tack on another in the ninth. all right. and one night after giving up a game-winning homer, the closer retired the final four batters including a strikeout on the last out. that's a 3-1 boston victory. so a year after finishing in last place, i like the army helmets. a little "animal houselike." the red sox move on to the alcs for the first time in five years. go to detroit. who are they going to play? a's/tigers. oakland leading 3-0 in the fifth. detroit's jhonne per ray peralt. >> cespedes going back! on the track, leaps and it's gone! a three-run home run ties the game for the tigers with one swing of the bat! >> yeah, the oakland lead gone.
ball game tied at 3-3. oakland with a 4-3 lead. detroit's victor martinez smacks a solo shot to right. take another look. seems like he gets a little bit of help from a friend. >> that's gone. >> well, the umpires agreed with you, mr. karins. because after reviewing it, they called it a home run. tigers take a one-run lead off an austin jackson single later in the inning. and in the eighth, we're going to see detroit's max scherzer pitches his way out of a bases-loaded no-out jam in his first relief appearance since 2011. the tigers win 8-6. they force a game five. they're pumped. they've got to go to oakland. and whoever wins that's got to go to boston. they're going to be tired. other baseball news, al steinbrenner addressing questions about free agent second baseman robinson cano. their sources say this guy is asking for a ten-year deal in excess of $300 million. here's what steinbrenner has to say yesterday on espn new york.
>> i'm optimistic and i know that we're going to make him a very good offer. is anybody an absolute must to sign? no, and that's nothing against robbie, but that's just not reasonable to assume that about anybody. >> we've been down the road of the ten had-year deal before. when asked about the ten-year deal, steinbrenner said, quote, i don't feel this organization is ready to do something like that. he didn't say again. but i want to say again in brackets. let's go over to bill karins. >> that's just crazy. >> he's an awesome player and he's young and relatively healthy, but ten years, it's guaranteed money in major league baseball. >> that's the crazy thing. the nfl is the big, huge power sport in this country, but if you're a professional athlete and you can choose which way to go, you go baseball. you get the money. >> and it's guaranteed. >> you know we've had a great fall. east coast for the most part, you've had a beautiful fall. if you're on the mid-atlantic, it's coming to an end in a hurry. if you're in the outer banks right now, eastern north carolina, it feels like a tropical storm is hitting this morning. the middle of the country, you're still gorgeous, by the
way. it's right along the east coast. this storm's going to sneak right up the eastern seaboard. winds gusting right now to 35 miles per hour in virginia beach. it's light rain and the waves are pounding the surf. it literally feels like a tropical storm. that's going to move up the coast. richmond, you're next up through maryland and ocean city and d.c. later today. eventually this will be up in new york city in the days ahead. the middle of the country, you're gorgeous once again. congratulations from minneapolis southward. keep it coming. but from d.c. to new york city, just be prepared. we're going to probably see about five or six days in a row with no sunshine. temperatures in the 60s. kind of breezy with periods of on and off rain. and there's new york city's forecast. you know, we've had some great weather, so it's hard to complain. but i bet you, brian, by about friday, saturday -- >> i'll be complaining. >> -- maybe, yeah. people will be complaining. >> it will take one day of rain and i'll be complaining. thank you, bill. i like the fall tie. >> the season. >> not as good as mine. coming up at the top of the
hour, "morning joe," jim cramer in the house. he'll join the table to discuss a host of issues in backing the markets including the choice of a new candidate for chairman of the fed. we'll talk about the government shutdown and the impending debt crisis as well. you know jim's the best. when we come back here, we'll huddle around the cooler. jimmy fallon's new version of miley cyrus's "we can't stop" with a little help from miley and the roots. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] sheets or bar? how do you get your bounce? bounce keeps my clothes fresh for weeks, even when they've been sitting in the drawer a long time. like those jeans you can't fit into anymore. uh...by that, i mean... [ male announcer ] how do you get your bounce? long-lasting freshness.
5 bucks if i mention eric saveraid. mr. meacham teaches me something every day. at the top of the show, we talked about president obama's nomination of janet yellen as fed chairwoman. it's pending, it's going to happen later today. if you want to sound smart, tell your friends under the current chair, the central bank's balance sheet quadrupled to $3.7 trillion. the fed bought treasury bonds, mortgage-backed securities, just about everything to funnel money back into the financial system. let's go to louis and the cooler. good morning, mr. louis. >> good morning. let's start with stephen colbert who's found the one congressman who has a little different perspective on the prospect of the u.s. defaulting on its debt. >> defaulting on our debts
could -- just could -- be beneficial. according to florida congressman ted yoho who i believe represents the pirates of the caribbean ride. jim? >> congressman ted yoho, republican of florida, says that by refusing to raise this so-called debt limit, congress would have the reverse effect of bringing stability to world markets. >> yes, a government default could bring stability to world markets. just like if it you cut off both your legs, it brings stability to your torso. because it lowers your center of gravity. >> now, jimmy fallon fans are used to seeing the late-night host perform with his guests. and last night he and miley cyrus showed off a version of her hit "we can't stop" with a little help from the roots. ♪ it's our party we can do what we want ♪ ♪ it's our party we can say what we want ♪ ♪ it's our party we can love who we want ♪ ♪ we can kiss who we want ♪ we can say what we want
♪ go miley ♪ sweaty bodies everywhere ♪ hands in the air like we don't care ♪ ♪ 'because we came to have so much fun now ♪ ♪ everybody might get some now ♪ if you're not ready to go home ♪ ♪ can i get a hell no ♪ hell no ♪ 'because we gonna go all night ♪ ♪ till we see the sunlight all right ♪ >> miley making an epic recovery. she's everywhere doing a great job. i give her a lot of credit. meanwhile, the other late-night host, jimmy kimmel, will welcome kanye west to his show tonight. it's their first meeting since the rapper went on an epic twitter rant against kimmel. after the recreation of a kanye interview. >> where is the culture at? >> yeah, so? >> we culture. rappers knew rock 'n' roll. we're the rock stars, and i'm the biggest of all of them! >> well, kanye's tirade has
since been removed from his twitter account, but kimmel is excited about the whole situation. he says he's always wanted to be in a rap feud. now, one biker was ticketed in new york for not using the bike lane the right way is going above and beyond to prove sometimes you just don't have a choice. >> i got a ticket for not riding in the bike lane, but often there are obstructions that keep you from properly riding the bike. ♪ >> that is one of my favorite new york-based filmmakers, casey nystad. he ends with a message to police, ticket people blocking the bike lanes instead of giving the tickets to the bikers going the wrong way in the bike lane. >> louis, i have some bad news for you, by the way.
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i believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone of any foreign policy. >> and i can see russia from my house. >> by the way, we had tons of nominations for tina fey as sarah palin. we want to know your best celebrity impersonations. that great arnold one. we have a couple. >> mike said my favorite, vanessa bayer doing miley cyrus. i thought it was funny before i even knew who she was. >> our boy mike who is a
fantastic comic. you got another one? >> yeah, "snl" will never be the same without bill hader's james carville. >> so good. just give a little snippet of it. >> rest assured that the issue >> the "morning joe" starts right now. . >> here's the 2, 2, a swing and a mills. and the boston red sox are moving on. oh, how about those red sox? >> they're nice. they're fantastic. >> i tell you what, the rays, they are the -- i was more concerned about the rays. you know what they do with that mo
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