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for today. why is that considered strange at this time of year? two for the price of one. "saturday night live" makes light of two different headlines in the news this week. all making for a good laugh. hello, everyone. high noon in the east, 9:00 in the west. i'm mara schiavocampo in for alex witt. we start in washington where there is fresh wrangling today over the way forward on the affordable care act from both sides of the aisle. >> the president said that he fumbled the rollout. it's time for a time-out, which i've been calling for so, that we can go back to the drawing board and talk about bipartisan solutions for health care reform in the country. >> this is a fixable problem. once they fix it, people will see i have an opportunity to cover my family. i was in the emergency room just last week with my son who had an asthma attack and took too many puffs on his puffer. i looked in the eyes of all the
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other mothers in the emergency room. these are mothers who don't have health care, who may not -- this may be their only access. >> wednesday president obama plans to visit jfk's grave site as the nation marks the 50th anniversary of kennedy's assassination this week. first lady michelle obama will join the president at a wreath laying ceremony along with bill and hillary clinton. mitt romney running mate paul ryan made his first visit to iowa since the pair's failed bid for white house last year, and ryan fielded speculation about a potential about a 2016 run. >> jen and i got to come, see a lot of old friends, see people we made, see some good memories. maybe we should come back and do this more often. people are really friendly here. i'll tell you. >> in a recent interview with the "des moines register," ryan said he would take a hard look at 2016 once he's through this current term in congress. back to the health care law where president obama's one-year
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extension of plans have done little to settle debate on capitol hill and main street. nancy pelosi talked about the possible political impact on today's "meet the press." >> democrats won't lose seats next year over obama care? >> i don't think you can tell what will happen next year. but i will tell you this. democrats stand tall in support of the affordable care act. we have great candidates who are running. what is important about it is that the american people are well served, not who gets re-elected. >> joining me now is democratic congressman adam schiff, member of the appropriations and intelligence committees. thanks for being here. >> it's a pleasure. >> do you agree with what we heard from pelosi? will democrats stand tall with obama care on the campaign trail? >> yes, i think democrats will. democrats recognize that the sta fuss quo that we had before the passage of aca meant that millions of americans didn't have health care, americans were facing double premiums every
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time their policies came new and when they had a serious medical problem they went bankrupt. nobody wants to go back to that kind of future. democrats will support this. it will be awfully important for the administration to get that website working, to iron out some of the other problems, to work with insurers to make sure that people who have policies or had policies that they want to keep are able to keep those policies. but i don't think any democrats want to go back to the situation we had before with such a an inadequate health care system that let so many people without coverage and going bankrupt. >> for the one-year extension to work, insurance companies and state commissioners have to get on board. do you have any concerns that won't happen? >> i have some concerns because in some of the states, both, you know, the governors and the legislators and their insurance commissioners have not been on board with obama care, in many respects discouraged people from enrolling in the health insurance exchanges. on the other hand, other states have been welcoming and their
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exchanges are operating quite well and so it will probably be state by state. but i think it's a real disservice, whether you agree with the health care reform or you don't, to discourage people from getting health care when it's available. you know, we all have these political fights over a variety of issues. it's important, though, once the fight is over that the fight is over, that we not relit tate everything and certainly don't discourage people from taking advantage of health care and other services when they are available. >> it sounds like you think this could be politicized state to state depending on what party is running that particular state. >> unfortunately, i think that's been the record that we've seen thus far in the rollout, that states like in kentucky that have been very welcoming, had done vel, their exchanges are operating well, people are enrolling, but other states which have heavily discouraged people from enrolling and have not been willing to expand their medicaid processes have, you know, millions of people who are not going to have access to health care. that's a real disservice i think to those constituents.
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but, you know, certainly here, you know, the federal government's going to have to do a much better job, too, because while the federal government has been very supportive and certainly the administration has been supportive, its own efforts in terms of the website have been, you know, far, far from adequate. will's a lot of work to be done by those states that were supportive let alone those that were not. >> let's switch gears to the iran nuclear talks this week. prime minister netanyahu made an interesting argument for more sanctions in an interview this morning. let's listen. >> if you went the other way and you not only preserved the sanctions instead of reducing them but actually increased them, then, you know, all these countries and all these companies will have to choose between the iranian economy and the u.s. economy. because that's what additional sanctions mean, choose iran or the u.s. that's a no-brainer.
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everybody will choose the u.s. >> congressman, what do you make of that argument that we should be heading towards more stanchions, not fewer? >> we passed an additional sanctions bill in the house which i supported before the iranians were willing to come to the table, to force them to get to the table. the sanctions have worked now. the iranians are at the table, trying to negotiate a deal. the question is can bewe get a good deal and will an additional round of sanctions during the negotiations help or hurt? i think because they're already at the table and we have a prospect of getting a good deal, we may not get it, but we have the prospect, that to risk redeath railing those discussions bypassing a new round of sanctions is really not necessary and maybe very counterproductive. so i would like to see us give the administration the time and breathing space to see if they can negotiate a halt to iran's work, a rolling back of iran's nuclear program. i'm willing to give them the chance to do it. i think if they allow some
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relaxation in terms of the freeze on iranian assets that is easily and quickly reversible in exchange for run's halt to rolling back its program while we work out a final deal, that might make sense. but there's a lot of ifs. and i can certainly understand the prime minister's concerns. you know, rouhani may have the best intentions or he may not, but ultimately the mullahs may let an agreement go forward or kill it in the cradle. but i do think that considering the other option, which is very problematic, we ought to give diplomacy a chance. >> all right, congressman. thanks for your time this afternoon. we appreciate it. >> you bet. thank you. turning to the philippines now and the difficulties facing a nation struggling to rebuild. this is some amateur video of typhoon haiyan crashing into houses as it made landfall. you can see the power of the storm. more than 3,600 people are confirmed dead and 2,000 still missing. authorities are warning that the
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death toll is expected to rise significantly. u.s. military helicopters are leading the relief effort, helping to deliver badly needed aid and supplies to remote areas cut off by the storm. and many of these areas, frustration and desperation are reaching new highs. the number of people displaced by the storm as high as 4 million. filipino officials and i remember agencies are warning about an accelerating humanitarian crisis. the estimated damage is $230 million. dangerous weather is expected across much of the midwest today with unusual tornado outbreaks likely and the trouble could start at any time now. nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer is here with the latest. what's it looking like? >> it's already getting very active. we have had several zetornado watches and warnings issued across the entire midwest, one confirmed tornado on the ground in east peoria, illinois, 10:58 central time this morning. you can see the showers and storms firing up across wisconsin and illinois. we have three potentially
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dangerous situations tornado watches issued. those are your pds tornado watches. you can see they're up through michigan, through western ohio, indiana, across southern wisconsin, illinois, parts of missouri and into western kentucky and including northwestern tennessee. this is an area we'll see several tornadoes develop across that midwest region through the day today. you can see we have frequent cloud-to-ground lightning. the thing i want to point out, i am in the process of tweeting every possible tornado warning that gets issued, but these storms are moving at about 55 to 60 miles per hour, meaning if a town downstream of you gets issued under a tornado warning it will take a very short period of time before it gets closer to you. keep an eye out for all tornado warnings especially to the west and southwest of you going into this afternoon and this evening and even tonight. you can see the heavier downpours across parts of wisconsin and illinois. we've seen several tornado warnings issued in peoria and severe storms approaching
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chicago right now. we've had delays into chicago o'hare airport at about an hour and a half already because of the wind. so even if you don't get one of those tornado warnings right over your area, these severe thunderstorm warnings are still going to be an issue. we could see wind gusts up near 60 miles per hour. in addition to the fact that tornado warnings will be posted throughout the day. so it is going to be very active through the midwest. that's going to be an issue all throughout the rest of the afternoon, even into tonight, then eventually things will start to wind down. it sure is busy already. mara? >> thanks, dylan. we will continue to monitor that activity throughout the afternoon. a story of success about signing up on healthcare.gov. one virginia woman shares her story. but first tfshgs only a matter of time. "saturday night live" has a little fun with the crisis concerning the toronto mayor. but they didn't fit. customer's not happy, i'm not happy. sales go down, i'm not happy. merch comes back, i'm not happy. use ups. they make returns easy. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. then, repeat customer. easy returns, i'm happy.
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the rollout of the website, that's terrible. but the fact is that will be fixed. >> it's time to start over. this health care law is terribly flawed. it is broken. it has failed the american people because they're losing their insurance, losing their doctor, their premiums are going up. >> another rough week over what the president called the fumbled rollout of obama care has provided fresh fodder for the sunday talk shows. but after the president's mea culpa news conference last week, the white house is opening it's weathered the worse and the firestorm will soon fade. a lot of that will depend on whether the healthcare.gov website is functioning smoothly by white house's deadline at the end of the month, but complicating matters further is a "washington post" story reporting as many as 1 in 5 may not be able to successfully navigate the website and buy insurance. for more on all of this, let's bring in msnbc political analyst jonathan alter and "chicago sun-times" columnist and washington bureau chief lynn sweet. welcome to you both.
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>> hi. >> hi. >> jonathan, the president's poll numbers are down, only about 106,000 people have signed up under obama care so far and democrats are defecting. what gives the white house cause for optimism right now? >> i don't think they are particularly optimistic. they're in a crisis mode. they do feel, though, that they're beginning to get on top of this. they've been through what can only be described as a fiasco. but, you know, nothing ever stays the same in american politics, in american government. and they've got a process in place to get their website working. the next three or four months are absolutely critical. if they can't get it together, it really will be the train wreck republicans describe. but it that's not a foregone conclusion, so they have a little bit of time to get this together and essentially do a do-over, if you will, on getting people to sign up for obama care. >> now, "saturday night live"
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pokes a little bit of fun at the president. let's take a look. >> and paxil's second-term strength treats a whole range of symptoms, like benghazi, the nsa scandal, the irs scandal, the ap scandal, the petraeus scandal, that time jaycee and beyonce went to cuba, and of course obama care website problems. and now there's paxil republican strength for when you have to answer to congress. >> lynn, you describe this as the worst week of the obama presidency. why? >> well, because this goes to the fundamental credibility of obama. this goes to his signature program. where i do agree with jonathan it's way premature to call this anywhere close to failure. it's just terrible start. and this goes to the promise, the core promise that obama made that he should not have that nothing would change. this has triggered the rise of an army of the insured, which is new, and that's a new political problem for him. there was no army of the
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uninsured. the newly -- the people who got notices that could not renew are a new angry movement of people even ones who liked obama a lot. >> now, jonathan, republicans say they want to start over on health care as you heard senator barrasso say. are they getting close to that? are they getting anywhere near that? now you have these comparisons to hurricane katrina. how does all of that come into play? >> the well, the comparisons to kat katrina, that's a sound bite, like train wreck. you have to look at the actual configuration of political forces in the country right now. you see, you know, msnbc or another network, you see the house passes repeal of obama care, or on friday, you know, house passes the upton amendment. these are actually largely irrelevant political actions because not only do they not right now have the votes in the
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senate to repeal obama care, but the president holds the veto pen, and they haven't close to having enough high temperature votes to override a presidential veto. so for right now, republicans are stuck with obama care but they're kind of -- in some ways i think they're kind of happy about its failure. it's not very good for the american people, but it's very good for them politically. they're seeking to exploit it as much as they can. >> lynn, an awful lot of weight is being put on the website being fixed. if it isn't fixed by the november 30th deadline, do you think it's going to end up being a real drag on democrats in next year's midterms or do they still have a little more time to get it together? >> well, they have more time. the administration should never have set another self-imposed deadline that they may not meet. they've given signals they may not meet it. the thing is not to have it up -- it has to be up and running sooner than later. you could give them a few more weeks even and these problems could maybe not be a as powerful next knoch. it's a year away, the election. one quick thing i want to say, i
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think comparisons to katrina are so not apt, people died in katrina. there are a lot of angry people that can't get their policies renewed, a lot of confusion, it's inexcusable, this botched rollout, but this is not a katrina. >> a lot of people have been making that point, that it's very different. go ahead, jonathan. >> i was going to say on the question of people dying, you know, i mean, why do people die in connection with a lack of health insurance? because they don't go to the doctor in time. right? so we need to look at this in kind of a larger perspective, which is, you know, are we better off as the republicans argue, going back to where we were before this all started, where if you got sick or your kid got sick you were very likely going to lose your house because your insurance or lack of insurance didn't cover your medical expenses? so, yes, some people are having some policies that generally are not very good insurance cancel,
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yes, the administration has totally bullocked up the website, but we're in a better place than we were before with people with pre-existing conditions. i put myself in that category. were in a world of hurt should they get sick. >> and we'll be speaking with a woman later in the show who was in a tough position and thanks to the aca is in a much better position. jonathan, i want to switch gears to a new project you're working on. you tear executive producer of "alpha house," made its debut on friday. >> i've been backing him for years. >> yes, and i've been fronting for her. and who knew? >> who knew what? >> that she was so much more than this illegible signature on a check. it's better. she's setting up a super pac for me. sh, we can't coordinate. >> looks very juicy.
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congratulations. tell us about the series. >> thanks. yeah. i'm executive produce we are creator gary trudeau and elliott webb. you just saw mark consuelos and jar martinez, a florida senator and his super pac good friend, john goodman, matt milloy, clark johnson, cynthia nixon, a lot of great stars in this production, and i think for anybody who, you know, likes to watch msnbc has any kind of interest in politics, you might want to check it out. three episodes are available right now on amazon for free. and the other eight episodes, which we've already shot, are going to be available one a week for the next couple of months if you subscribe to amazon prime, which gets you free shipping. >> get people hooked with those first three. >> also, i mean, amazon prime is a great deal. so it's part of the brave new world of online television. it's a little bit like being in
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cable news in the early 1980s or in network television in the early 1950s. it's a very exciting thing for me to do. but i'm not quitting my day job. still on msnbc. >> happy to hear that. lynn sweet, jonathan alter thanks for your time this afternoon. >> thank you. it's not just a flashback to the '70s. the dream machine in today's number ones and zooming into the 21st century. but first, today's one-minute playback, poking fun at the circus surrounding the mayor of toronto. it's a top tick funny people at "saturday night live" just couldn't wait to get their hands on. here's part of the opening monologue from last night's show. >> look, i've done some bad things and i apologized for that. >> i'm sorry, mr. mayor. i just don't think people will believe you anymore. some of the stories you've told are clearly outrageous lies. >> then i'm going to go on a show where people do believe me and will believe anything i say. >> mr. mayor, what show would possibly believe you?
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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." i'm mara schiavocampo.
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more on the dangerous weather developing across the midwest. dylan dreyer has an update. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, mara. things have gotten active out there. we have three tornado watches in effect. these are pds tornado watches meaning potentially dangerous situations. these are more intense than your regular tornado watches. you can see all the filled-in areas of red. that's where the tornado warnings are right now. we've already had a confirmed tornado near east peoria, illinois, and look at chicago. it is under a severe thunderstorm warning at this time. and even though the tornado warnings get a lot of hype, the severe thunderstorm warnings are very important to be mindful of because we could see wind gusts up to about 60 miles per hour with these storms. those are your straight-line wind gusts so even though there's no rotation with some of those, they are still very powerful. we have high wind warnings across the great lakes region and wind advisories elsewhere. these storms are moving at about 55 to 60 miles per hour. so when you hear a town downwind of you get issued under a tornado warning, keep in mind
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that it's going to take about half the time that it normally would, and these are long-track tornados that stay on the ground for a long period of time. they're firing up very rapidly, all up and down central illinois and even in the southwestern wisconsin where we have had some tornado warnings as well. we are going to see the potential for some tornado warnings also issued in other parts of the midwest. so these are going to happen in successi succession. there already have been several issued and we'll continue to monitor them throughout the rest of the evening. mara? >> thanks, dylan. for the first time since allegations of bullying and harassment inside the miami dolphins locker room went public, we're hearing from the player at the center of it all. with his attorney at his side, jonathan martin attended a meeting with an independent investigator in new york where he made his first public statement. >> today's meeting is consistent with my commitment to cooperate with the nfl's investigation into my experience as a player on the miami dolphins. this is the right way to handle the matter. beyond that, i look forward to looking through the process and resuming my career in the national football league.
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>> the dolphins are also playing their first home game today since the scandal broke. nbc's gabe gutierrez joins me live from miami. gabe, good afternoon. so what has the reaction been from miami fans and from the teams of these latest developments? >> hi there, mara. we just spoke with a couple fans that came here to tailgate before the game. kickoff is set for 4:00. it depends on who you talk to. for the most part what we hear from the dolphins fans is is they want the scandal to be over. some support jonathan martin, some sup sort richie incognito. a lot of people think whatever happened should stay in the locker room but they're just focusing on winning. the dolphins have lost 5 of their last 6 games. they're not technically mathematically out of the playoffs but this game could decide a lot. the fans want the dolphins back on track and the scandal behind them. >> how much of a distraction is this for a team trying to make the playoffs? does it look like it's affected
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their performance on the field? >> reporter: well, last week it was a very difficult loss to the tampa bay buccaneers. the buccaneers were previously winless and the dolphins lost to that team. the players have said in media reports that they're now admitting it has been a little bit of a distraction, that family members have been texting them about what's going on inside the locker room, but those dolphins player that have spoke within the media, they all say they want to move past this, want to focus on what they should be doing, which is focusing on the game. there are fans that are calling for the dolphins general manager to step down and expect to see a banner above the stadium calling for that. but, again, all they want to do is for the dolphins to get back on track. >> nbc's gabe dpuz in miami. thanks so much. despite the rocky rollout of the affordable care act, many americans are finding policies through the exchanges that they're very happy with. some are even life changing. in fact, one virginia woman was so grateful for her new coverage that she wrote her congressman to thank him for his support of the law.
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he read her letter yesterday right here on this show. take a listen. >> my husband died in february of 2012 at the age of 49 after 14 months' battle with pancreatic cancer. she had two children. eight months later she was diagnosed with cancer herself. she knew, because she was self-employed, she can't get a policy because she has a pre-existing condition. she went to the website, the healthcare.gov, and she found a plan. "i am so grateful for the affordable care act because it allows me to care for my children." >> that was representative jim moran from virginia. the woman who wrote that message is amy bowman. amy joins me now. good afternoon. thanks for being here. >> hi, mara. thanks for having me. >> first of all, i'd like to offer my condolences on the loss of your husband. i want to talk a little bit about what you wrote in that letter. can you fill us in on some of the blank, tell more of your story so people understand your situation? >> well, after my husband passed
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away, we were informed by his company that we would be able to stay on the company health insurance policy for a year. and that was in accordance with virginia's cobra statute. and so that's what we were doing. eight months after my husband passed away, then i was diagnosed with breast cancer. and at that point i started to panic because i knew that i had four months of health insurance coverage left, and after that time i wasn't quite sure what was going to happen. but i was pretty sure that they weren't going to cover me with a pre-existing condition like cancer. so i began to do research on different health insurance options, and i found out that i was eligible for an insurance plan called -- under hipaa,
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which didn't require any medical underwriting. it simply stated that if you had been under continuous coverage for health insurance prior to the start of the hipaa policy for a certain period then you could continue on under the hipaa policy without having to go through underwriting. and that was basically my only option, and so that's what i did. the flip side, of course, was that -- >> just to kind of fast forward to the aca and your experience with the haake website, you were able to successfully sign up, correct, and it made a big difference in your premiums? >> it did. under the hipaa plan my premium was $1,485 a month. and when i got on the aca website, i was able to enroll and find a plan, and my health
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insurance premium dropped to $680 a month. and then i added a dental plan on top of that for an additional $42. so in total, my new premium under the aca is going to be about $725. a month. >> so we're hearing an awful lot about all the problems that this rollout is having, but here you have had what you consider a life-changing experience. >> yes. >> what difference does this make in your life that you have this coverage and that it's so much more affordable? >> well, i have two children, and now they only have one surviving parent, so i am solely responsible for taking care of them. and to have an insurance premium of almost $1,500 a month was a financial hardship. so now that i am able to -- i mean it's just going to be a lot
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more affordable for me and my children. i'll have that much more money every month in my budget that i can spend on taking care of our family. >> amy, thank you so much for sharing your story. we certainly wish you the best of luck as your treatment koblts. >> thank you. >> turning to office politics, alex sits down with thomas roberts. he just returned from a whirlwind trip to moscow co-hosting the miss universe pageant. alex asked him if he'd consider hosting again. >> i would. i would. it was an interesting one-off opportunity. it was a lot of work. but i would definitely do it again. it was a lot of fun. >> what was the highlight? was it that video that you did? >> well, yes, off camera behind the scenes, the video was definitely a highlight for me. >> what are you doing? why? >> on the face of it, it seems vastly different than what you and i do every day at work.
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was it? >> the gig, the show? >> mm-hmm. >> oh, yeah. yeah. i mean, you know, live tv, it's feathers to the wind, alex. you say something, it's just gone. this was rehearsed. you rehearse it over and over again to go through the motions for the production but also for these women competing so that they get an opportunity in each segment of the competition that's going on on that telecast so that they get to run through it so when they make the top 16 that it's not all their first time in that round and then moving on to either evening gown or the final round. so it gives them an opportunity so that they don't feel flat-footed if they are one of the lucky 16 that advance on. so kind of gets a shot at it. except for crowning. no one gets to rehearse actually winning. so when you get down to the bottom two, they'll always have a real competitor against you call over somebody who actually works at the miss universe organization and that person is always crowned. so the winner, whoever is going
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to win, never actually has an opportunity to practice the winning face. >> what's with all the drama leading up to it? it takes so long to get the winner announced. >> well, i think that's all in, you know, the anticipation, the anxiety of the show. there's high production value that goes on behind the scenes. so they're counting the beats of when you're going to say the countries and when you're going to release the information. >> were you nervous at all doing this? >> oh, i was a wreck. >> really? >> complete wreck. absolutely. because i didn't want to -- you know, i don't want a youtube incident to haunt me in my grave. >> didn't get one. >> didn't get one. >> so donald trump, he owns the pageant, he is a polarizing figure. how do you find him to be? >> you know, i did not expect to like donald trump as much as i did. >> hmm. >> but he is an interesting guy. and i think that he is more
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evolved on marriage equality than he is willing to let out there. >> why? political reasons? >> yeah. political reasons. but i think he's much more evolved than he's willing to say. it's just, you know, a feeling i have. >> another topic, did you get any sense of the edward snowden controversy over there, whether he is being celebrated, demonized? >> the people i had a chance to speak to about that seemed ambivalent about it. an it's much more ado about something in our country of what is happening with snowden and the information that he's revealing on a larger-scale level and the fact that more secrets continue to come out even though putin said if you continue with all these vets your asylum will be in jeopardy. i think snowden's going to be in russia for a long time to come. that language isn't easy so, good luck. >> next week, alex talks to
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when black movies do so well. chris witherspoon, entertainment editor at thegrio.com. >> hi. >> why is hollywood so surprised in. >> this year proves that. this film made $30.5 million, only cost $17 million to make. so many great films out alone. "12 years a slave," "the butler." i think "the best man" came out in 1999 when it was a gold era for black film and i think we're seeing that again. they have an all-star cast, and you're bringing people into theaters to see a lot of their favorite stars. black people want to come and see themselves on the big screen. >> why is it so hard to get these films made? what are some of the challenges that people who want to make these films face in hollywood? >> i think for the past decade tyler perry was one of the only people making black films, sad to say but i think true. now we're seeing more people doing it. far while we didn't have a lot of star power.
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now we have bona fide actors that people want to see in droves and $36 million proves that. >> you had a chance to speak with one of the biggest stars of the movie, terrence howard, gone on to such big things. i'm sorry. we don't have that sound bite. what did he say? >> he basically said this film, people have been waiting for 15 years so he wasn't worried about people not coming out to see it. they've been waiting a long time, watch the old one on repeat and he said he never sees his movies but he saw this unand loved it. he expects it to break records and it kind of is right now. >> do these films have crossover appeal to a mainstream audience or really just being supported by an african-american audience? >> i would say to. i saw wit some of my friends, and i saw wit black, white lashgs tino, and some of my friends that saw it that aren't just black want to see it again and they saw it in '99. it definitely crosses over. the cast is multiracial. we have eddie cibrian. >> the lone white guy. >> but they kind of sprinkle in other people that aren't just
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when president obama announced thursday the federal government will delay insurance cancellations for one year it might have seemed like a short-term solutions. but state agencies are seeing it
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in a different way and may not comply. sara shift is covering this story for t"the washington pos." >> thanks for having me here. >> who has the authority to execute this extension and what is the likelihood they will? >> there are two important players here. the first are insurance regulators. each state has an official who oversees their insurance market and they get to decide whether to chaeng their rules to allow this change the president has suggested to go through. the second are insurance companies. if they get the go-ahead from a regulator, they then have to decide does it make sense this late in the game to renew these policies. so there's really two big obstacles right now that the president's plan to reverse cancellation notices is facing. >> it starts with the state insurance regulator. are there any indications that politics are going to play in here if you have, say, a republican-led state that that could influence their decision? >> it's actually been a really weird split where you have more liberal states, states like washington, rhode island, vermont, those are the three
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states so far that rejected the president's change. these tend to be pretty liberal states that really like the affordable care act and they say, you know, we're not changing it. we like the law. we're going forward. and then you have some more traditionally conservative states, places like texas and florida, that have said we're happy to allow insurance companies to keep selling these noncompliant plans. so in a weird way you have states that typically are in opposition to the president signing on to this decision that he's made. >> creating interesting alliances. you had an interesting interview with the insurance commissioner for washington state. what were some of his biggest concerns? >> he had a lot of concerns. one of them was that he got absolutely no heads up from the white house. he was literally at the gym when this was being announced and kind of rushed to the shower, rushed into his office. and then the other concern he has is this would really undermine the affordable care act in washington that a lot of young, healthy people would stay on noncompliant plans, they wouldn't go into the state's
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health exchange, and that would really hurt the state health exchange. so he said we're not changing course, we're sticking with the decision we've made, and we're okay allowing these plans to be canceled even if it isn't popular. >> and in the cases where states decide not to comply, does the administration have any means to override them? >> not as far as we're aware. i mean, obviously, they could reach out to the states, they could make chair case in kind of a more aggressive way. but for decades now, states have typically been the regulators of state insurance markets, so it's really hard for the federal government to compel any sort of changes in insurance regulation. >> all right. sara, thanks so much for your time this afternoon. >> thank you. the iran nuclear talks resume this week. why this could be the perfect moment for a peace deal. we went out and asked people a simple question:
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the president's fix. what will happen next? and a time tax and it's hurting young voters, especially minorities. we'll be the first to bring you a new study on a true danger to democrat i. hi, everyone. i'm mara schiavocampo in for alex witt. it's 1:00 in the east, 10:00 out west. here's what's happening. breaking news. reports a tornado has touched down in central illinois. severe weather is affecting a large part of the midwest right now. flights ougs of chicago's o'hare international are seeing delays of at least an hour. dylan dreyer has the latest. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, mara. yes, we did get reports of tornadoes on the ground in central illinois just east of peoria, illinois, in a town called washington. and it is actually -- we are getting reports that homes were levelled in that area. it was a very strong tornado that moved through and it's this line of thunderstorms that's basically sitting from north illinois right down into
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southern illinois, and with that we have several tornado warnings that have been posted. the shaded red boxes indicate pds tornado watch boxes. that mean pos trenchly dangerous situations. that's what we're seeing developing at this time. all the filled in areas of red, those are all the tornado warnings that are currently issued right now.peoria, illinois, into southeastern missouri, that's where we currently have tornado warnings. now, where we don't have the warnings we still have high wind warnings, and some of the thunderstorms, even if they don't have rotation enough to give them a tornado warning, we still have the potential of seeing wind gusts near 60 miles per hour. damaging wind gusts, straight-line winds will also create a mess out that way. but we are keeping an eye on the tornado warnings that are being issued. as for the chicago area, the storms moving through that area right now are weakening a bit. most of the activity is more in central illinois, stretching down into southern illinois. but they are still worth watching.
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we will keep an eye on them because they will be firing up throughout the rest of the afternoon and through this evening. >> we'll be following this closely. thanks, dylan. to keep up on all the warnings and watches at anytime, depend on the experts at weather.com. in washington, lawmakers are drawing partisan lines once again over the health care law and president obama's proposed fix to allow some people to keep their current plan. >> the president said that he fumbled the rollout. it's time for a time-out, which i've been calling for so, that we can go back to the drawing board and really talk about bipartisan solutions for health reform in the country. >> they can fix this. this is a fixable problem. once they fix it, people will see i have an opportunity to cover my family. i was in the emergency room just last week with my son who had an a asthma attack and took too many puffs on his puffer. i looked in the eyes of all the other mothers in the emergency room. these are mother who is don't have health care, this may be their only access. >> despite what the president
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himself called a fumbled rollout, some democrats say the administration will be able to recover. the gop, though, is sending a different message. >> paradise regained. when you lose something, you can find it again. and the president has admitted that he expects to be held responsible for regaining the americans' trust, and i think he will. >> what the president has proposed is basically a false fix. it's a political band-aid, but it's not a permanent cure for the people that are being hurt by his policies so it's time toll start over. >> for more on all of this, eleanor clift, washington correspondent for the daily beast, and washington correspondent emily hil. thanks for being here. >> hi. >> hi there. >> a recent gallup poll find for the first time in his presidency fewer than half of americans say that president obama is a strong and decisive leader. how does he turn around this
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perception problem? >> well, i think he has to keep getting out there and promoting the policies that he cares about, and he has to really count on the healthcare.gov website getting up and working. i was just in kentucky yesterday for a book fair, and the health exchange is working very well in that state. the two senators, rand paul and mitch mcconnell, republicans, the governor is a democrat, but he works across the aisle. so this can work, and i think we're going to have a period now of competing anecdotes of people who feel they've been hurt by the law, people who feel they've been helped by the law. then we're going to roll into the budget season coming up in december and january, and the president's got to show some backbone there and we'll have another confrontation. we'll see how that comes out. i think some of the critics who act as though if the obama care website had rolled out beautifully, then the congress would roll over and do immigration reform and everything else the president wants. i think that basically is a
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false choice. this congress is still very obstinate and has been very obstinate. >> let's talk a little bit about that, the rest of the president's agenda. emily, republicans have blocked almost everything the president has wanted to do, whether it's immigration or gun control. they've voted to repeal health care 46 times. do you think this will em boden them now to go even further? >> i'm not sure that they really needed this to embolden them to go further. i mean, i think that what you see, say weather immigration is just a different dynamic between the house and senate. house republicans don't see a reason to move forward on immigration reform that's comprehensive. most of the house republicans come from district where is hispanic voters just aren't a big factor so, they don't have that same need that republicans feel nationally to move on immigration reforms. so there's just a different dynamic between what house republicans want, you know, what national republican leaders might like to see from congress.
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so i don't think that this obama care debacle is going to really change republicans' priorities. it certainly makes things easier for them in the 2014 midterms. you know, of course we veal to see what happens particularly with the website between now and then, and with that, you know, battle of the anecdotes that eleanor was talking about. but i think between now and 2014 you're going to hear a lot about obama care from both sides, and it will depend on how the technical fixes go, but it certainly will give them something to talk about leading up to the 2014 midterms that isn't the government shutdown, which is the conversation they probably don't want to hear too much about. >> right. eleanor, a couple months ago there were predictions president obama was in trouble over syria, before that the irs and the app scandal. if the obama care website glitches are fixed and things go smoothly, do you think this controversy will pass like the other ones? >> i would hope so, because i think millions of americans stand to gain from obama care.
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and if you repealed it like the republicans want, you'd have absolute chaos because a lot of the ben fills have been conferred. i also think once the republicans get past the primary season early next year and into the early spring, they're not worried so much about challenges from the tea party right, that maybe might have an opening going into 2014 where maybe republicans might think they can run on something other than just demands to undermine obama care. soy think immigration reform is not dead yet. >> i want to shift gears to 2016. senator kirsten jill brand was asked about her recent appearance on the recent "national journal" cover and the look of the 2008 obama campaign, and here's her response. >> i think it's a nice picture. i like the picture. >> what does it say? any plans? >> no. i am on the bandwagon for hillary clinton 2016. and not only -- >> not going to look beyond that? >> i have personally encouraged her. i think she would be an extraordinary president. >> she did not answer the question about what she would do
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beyond that. what do you think, emily? do you think gillibrand could be a serious presidential contender beyond 2016? >> i say beyond 2016. she's certainly very identified with senator clinton and has been very supportive of her. i've seen no indication that even absent hillary clinton in the 2016 races, which i think at this point seem sort of not the way things are going to go, that we'd be seeing her as a serious contender. she certainly is one of the younger democrats, one of the younger lights that the party has been looking to to provide leadership not only in the senate but as a potential candidate down the road. so i certainly think thi she's positioned herself very well with some of the work that she's been doing in the senate. she talks a lot about women leading and has done a very successful job in recruiting other female candidates. so she's building a big platform for herself but it won't be ready by 2016. >> another candidate on the democratic side that's getting a lot of attention in the last
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week or so is elizabeth warren. the cover of "new republic" says senator warren could be a thorn in hillary clinton's side. eleanor, what do you make of that? >> well, democrats are unaccustomed to coronating a presidential candidate, so you are getting rumblings, particularly from the left, thinking they want somebody with a more forceful, substantive presentation, especially on the income inequality in this country. and elizabeth warren embodies that. but she signed the letter along with every other democratic female senator supporting hillary clinton. if you write anything suggesting that she might be thinking of running, her press secretary comes down on you hard that she's not running. but i do think that it may force hillary clinton to think about what her economic message is, because right now, her message is i'd like to break the glass ceiling. and that might have worked in 2008, but it's not enough this time. and she's going to have to think about the kind of economic
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policy she wants to put forward, the people she wants to surround herself with. she can't have a renaissance of the bill clinton years. so i think all of this conversation sl positive. hillary needs to hear it. and i think it's doubtful that elizabeth warren is going to -- >> but some have this talk, like you suggested, may move hillary to the left a little bit. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. in about 20 minute, the midterm re-election challenges facing 12 democratic senators who voted for obama care. i'll speak with brian shot. to the philippines now where aid is finally getting to survivors trapped in remote areas cut off by typhoon haiyan. this is amateur video of haiyan crashing into homes when it made landfall nine days ago. you can see the power to-that water. u.s. military helicopters have been dropping off badly needed supplies in some of the most remote hard-hit areas, this as the death toll estimated at more than 3,600 continues to rise. let's get you right to tacloban
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where haiyan focused most of its wrath. gatti, how are relief efforts going right now? >> reporter: relief efforts are trickling in. we have seen relief in the areas that have been hardest hit by this storm. but at this point, that relief looks a lot like bottles of water, that relief looks a lot like rice and maybe some mobile cell phone charging stations. the people here say that the type of relief they need right now is more along the lines of heavy equipment. earlier, we were in an area where the debris field was actually eight to ten feet high. that's a debris field that is large enough to cover homes completely, cover cars completely, and this debris field was actually over the main highway there so, that kind of gives you an idea of the scope and magnitude of debris and cleanup still needing to happen in this place. and of course there are still bodies in that rubble, bodies that need to be recovered.
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mara? >> gadi, there's been a lot of criticism on the lack of preparedness before the storm. did the government do enough to protect people? what is the word on the ground where you are? >> reporter: look, i don't think anybody blames the government for the loss of life on this storm per se. i mean, this was a wrecking ball of a storm. so there would have been a loss of life no matter where it hit. any populated area would have seen a death toll. however, there is a lot of frustration that there aren't systems in place like an alarm system or an early warning system, sirens, the types of sirens that you see in the midwest warning for tornadoes or the types of alarm systems that they have in japan warning for typhoons. they there also don't seem to be very well thought out evacuation centers and signs that lead people to those e advantava eva centers. clear lay lot of room for improvement, which is painful for the people that lost loved
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ones in this storm. >> gadi sh wartsz, thanks for the update. if you'd like the donate to recovery efforts in the philippines, visit redcross.org.ph. this could be the most crucial week yet for the west to defuse iran's nuclear program. woah! what? it's called a smoky eye. [ female announcer ] you may not be the best at new trends but you know what's best for your kids. so we listened when you said gogurt should have only natural colors and flavors and no high fructose corn syrup. thanks, mom.
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on wednesday, the iran nuclear talks will resume in geneva. friday secretary kerry heads to israel to discuss the negotiations with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. in an interview this morning, the prime minister reiterated his position in no uncertain terms. >> i think you should not only keep up the pressure but increase the pressure because it's finally working and if you give it up now when you have that pressure and iran doesn't even take a part, dismantle
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centrifuge, what will you have when you ease the pressure? it doesn't make sense. >> a senior fellow at brooksings served most recently as national intelligence officer for the near east and south asia. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> you wrote a recent column in "the washington post" saying diplomacy is key to deal with iran. what's your response to netanyahu? >> on the issue of sanctions, which is the immediate issue before the congress, we have to realize there are two things that are equally necessary for sanctions to work to get somebody else, in this case, the iranian, to make the kinds of concessions we want. one is for the sanctions to be in place as long as there is not movement on the other side of the negotiating table. but equally important is that the other side become convinced if they do make the concessions they want the sanctions will come off.
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if they believe that they face nothing but unrelenting sanctions and punishment for years and years no matter what they do, then they have no incentive to concede at all. and unfortunately, if the congress were to take the step, and this is what secretary kerry and vice president biden have been trying hard to dissuade them from doing, if they were to take the step to add more sanctions, that would be one additional piece of evidence in the iranian eyes that the united states doesn't really want to deal and just wants to punish iran and its economy forever. >> now, gary sick wrote an interesting piece in the new york review of books where he argued that we're at the perfect moment for a deal. this is the last generation of iranian leaders who were j kated in the west and understand the west, we have abamerican president not worried about re-election, and the sanction, combined with president ahmadinejad's economic mismanagement have forced iran to the bargaining table. do you agree with that assessment? and how long do you think that window will be open? >> i agree with gary's assessment. we are at a real inflection point. those who unrealistically hold
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out for some even better deal from our point of view and the demand you often here is no uranium enrichment at all, which is simply unrealistic, fail to realize that this team on the other side, the iranian side, president rouhani, foreign minister zarif, and they are, indeed, backed by the supreme leader, the ayatollah, as he's made it clear, that's as good as it's going to get. we cannot expect any iranian leader, the supreme leader or the president or anyone else, to simply fold and say uncle, we give up, so gary's quite right. this is a critical moment. >> now, you spent your career analyzing the middle east. what's your read on this new face of iranian leadership? you know, netanyahu has been very skeptical. do you trust them? >> well, the most important point is we don't need to trust anybody. we're talking act a set of agreement, since there's going to be a preliminary agreement,
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then a final one that would have to be negotiated over the next several months in which each side would carry out its side of the deal while the other side carries out its part. so we could really go one better than ronald reagan. this isn't just trust but verify. this is verify and monitor and keep very close track of what the iranians are doing. we don't really need to trust anyone. >> what's your assessment of the nuclear capability of iran, what their current position is and when they could possibly develop a nuclear weapon? >> well, first of all, the iranians do not intend to develop a nuclear weapon as far as their current policy is concerned. our intelligence community -- i've been out of the business several years but i have no reason to disbelieve what my old colleagues are saying -- the judgment is that iran has not decided to build a nuclear weapon, they may never make that decision. my own judgment is if they ever were to make that decision it would be that they decide there's never any possibility for an improved relationship with the west and the united
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states, that it's going to be hostility and sanctions forever, and even worse the threat of a military attack. that's not what we want. that's what nobody wants. and that's another reason why gary was correct, that this is a critical period. >> all right. very important to keep in mind. paul piller, thanks for your time this afternoon. >> you're welcome. it's called a time tax, a troubling toll young voters are facing at the polls. the finding of a new study exclusively revealed in just ten minutes. [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair
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a new jersey waitress says she was denied a tip on her $100 check not because of the quality of her service but because she's gay. >> it hits home for a lot of people who have either struggled with anything in their life and just been put down. >> dana morales posted the bill with the customer's handle written anti-gay message online. it said, "i'm sorry, but i can not tip because i don't agree with your lifestyle and how you live your life." since then, online supporters have been rallying behind the waitress, others filling the booths at the bistro where she works leaving extra large tips or some people coming in just to give her a tip alone. she plans to put some of that cash towards a good cause. >> i plan being a veteran to send a portion of it to the wounded warriors fund. it's great to see everybody support and i really do appreciate it but it doesn't excuse the fact or change the fact that it actually did happen. >> since going public with her story, morales has reportedly received more than $2,000 in donations. turning the tables. obama care is under fire
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welcome back. i'm mara schiavocampo in for alex i. reports a tornado has touched down in central illinois and right now millions of people in several states are in the path of a potentially destructive and deadly weather system that is hammering the midwest. nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer is here now with the latest. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, mara. some of the pictures we are seeing in washington, illinois, there are homes that have just been leveled by will line of very severe storms producing several tornadoes. most of the activity we're seeing right now is across central illinois and it is approaching chicago while we will see in the southern suburbs of chicago the potential for some strong wind gusts with some of these severe thunderstorms. the tornado warnings themselves, most of them are issued in south
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central parts of illinois, extending into southeastern missouri. where we also have severe thunderstorm warnings, keep in mind that just because we're not seeing rotation in some of these potentially dangerous systems, we're also seeing wind gusts up near 60 to almost 80 miles per hour. those are straight-line winds that could create a lot of damage. because of that we have high wind warnings posted throughout the great lakes region. a closer look shows you we have some thunderstorms moving through the chicago area and we could see some very strong wind gus with these systems. but where it is rotating, where we have these tornado warnings posted, especially further south like we saw down near peoria, illinois, and now further south into areas like southern illinois, we are going to see the potential of wind gusts up to near 60 to 75 miles per hour and those uld create some serious damage. panning further to the south, we're also now starting to see more and more storms firing up through southern illinois and southeastern missouri and these are going to approach areas like
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southwestern indianapolis into western kentucky and tennessee too. the thing i want to point out is these storms are moving at about 60 miles per hour. so even if the town just downwind of you is under a tornado warning or a severe thunderstorm warning, keep in mind it is not going to take long at all for these storms to be on your doorstep. it's going to take almost half the time when these are normally issued because they are moving so fast. that's why we're seeing so much damage out of these storms because when you have a fast storm that is also producing wind gusts near 60 to 80 miles per hour it increases the threat of damage. we will be seeing these fire up throughout the rest of the afternoon before it starts to wind down this evening. it is going toe are main dangerous and busy. >> thanks, dylan. the fallout from the health care rollout has certainly taken its toll on president obama's approval rating. but what will it mean for democrats in the midterms? 12 senate democrat who is voted for obama care are up for re-election next year and four are in red states. will they be able to hang on? joining me now is democratic
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senator brian schatz, member of the commerce committee. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to look at these colleagues of yours battling it out in red states. we have mark begich in alaska, mark pryor in arkansas, mary landrieu in louisiana and kay hagen in north carolina. do you think they'll be able to weather this storm and keep their seats? >> i think they will, and the reason for that is that as difficult as the website rollout has been, the underlying premise of the affordable care act is sound. the legislation is sound. it's really the website that hasn't worked and has created tremendous frustration for americans who want to get their health care. but remember what this is all about. 50 million people don't have health care. almost 50 million people. and we're chewing up about 18% of our gdp on health care. so the whole point of this is to fix a broken health care system. right now we have a website that is sort of the front door to the affordable care act, and the implementation has been frankly inexcusable. but that's not the policy.
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the policy underlying the affordable care act is sound. >> now, let's take a quick listen to house minority leader nancy pelosi on "meet the press" this morning. >> democrats won't lose seats next year over obama care? >> i don't think you can tell what will happen next year, but i will tell you this -- democrats stand tall in support of the affordable care act. we have great candidates who are running. what is important about it is that the american people are well served, not who gets re-elected. >> senator, what's your reaction to that? do you think democrat, especially those up for re-election, will stand tall and campaign on obama care? >> well, i think here's why we're going to do well in 2014. the republican obsession with obama care sort of defies all reason and logic, and it's not as though they're actually trying to make improvements on the affordable care act. their view is all repeal all the time. speaker boehner has actually taken immigration reform off the
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table, has taken the employment nondiscrimination act off the table for the remainder of the year so that they can continue their fixation with trying to repeal the affordable care act. american people are actually aligning more with democrats on immigration, on climate, on women's rights, on gay rights, on the minimum wage, and so on all of those issues i think we're in pretty good standing for 2014. not to say that the website rollout wasn't difficult and wasn't inexcusable, but in 2014 the voters are going to look at these issues and they're going to see that the democratic party aligns with the mainstream of the majority of americans. >> you mentioned the mainstream views of the majority of americans so let's take a quick look at some poll numbers. the latest gallup poll finds 40% of americans favor obama care and 55% oppose it. what do you make of those numbers? >> well, it's been very difficult, and i think where we've lost some ground over the last month is those people who actually support the underlying premise of the legislation, which is that people
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should .prevented from getting health care just because of a pre-existing condition, that we should fund community health centers, that we should allow people to stay on their parents' plan until they're 26, that prescription medication should be a little less expensive, especially for the elderly. people basically agree with that, but when they see that the front door to all of those policies isn't functioning, which is to say the affordable care act website just wasn't working, then i think we saw some waning support. i think as improvements to the website occur and as more and more americans find out that the affordable care act is good legislation, is going to work for the majority of americans, i think those numbers will recover. >> and, sir, you yourself run for re-election in 2014. hawaii of course is a solidly blue state. but do you think this is going to have any impact on the race in your state? >> well, thank you for asking about hawaii because we have something called the prepaid health care act, and since 1974 we have had a 20-hour threshold. anybody who works 20 hours or more as an employer provided
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health care coverage. these are actually very good plans. we have more than 90% coverage in the state of hawaii. we have just over 4% unemployment. and here's the interesting thing. it used to be a partisan question. the democrats were for the prepaid health care law and the republicans were against it. now we have business groups, the chamber of commerce, our business roundtable, broad consensus that the prepaid health care act works. here's the thing. as you know, lots of things are more expensive in the state of hawaii -- energy, real estate, fuel, food. but the one thing that is not more expensive in the state of hawaii is health care, and that's due to excellent legislation that is not exactly the same as the affordable care act. but it goes at the same problem. and we've been living with it for more than three decades, and we like it very much. >> all right. senator brian schatz, thanks for your time this afternoon. >> thank you. turning now to a report on voter suppression you'll see for the first time exclusively right
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here on msnbc. it's an in-depth look into how young voters of color in particular are having problems at the polls, major problems. one key finding, a lack of required identification kept young blacks from voting at nearly four times the rate of white youth and latino youth were disenfranchised at nearly twice the rate of whites. joining me, matthew see gal, president of our time, that's matthew, and judith brown, co-director of the advancement project. thanks for your time. your organizations collaborated on this study. matthew, i want to start with you. the report concluded that the millennial generation in young voters of color face a, quote, time tax at the polls. can you explain that? >> we've talked a lot in the past about long lines at the polls, a lot about voter i.d., but what we haven't necessarily considered is that there is a disproportionate burden on people's time in order to acquire the right form of i.d. or in order to endure a five,
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six, seven-hour line to vote. and that of course takes people away from their job obligations, their class commitments, extracurriculars and so forth. that has economic implications in a big way. >> judith, i wanted to ask you to touch on something matthew just said, the time required to get an i.d. there are people on the other side of this debate that say, well, what's the big deal, why can't people just go out and get the i.d. they need? what's the answer to that question? >> well, i mean, the big deal is that, first of all, it's important to understand that these laws were put in place to manipulate the rules around voting to disenfranchise particular groups, such as young people. so, for example, in the state of wisconsin, 78% of young black men between this 18 and 29 do not have voter i.d. so they have to go and get their birth certificate and pay for those underlying documents and go get that particular kind of identification to then go get
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the i.d. but, you know, at the end of the day, what we are doing is that we are making it harder for people to vote. we're making it harder for young people, for people of color, and we should especially be concerned that as we see the changing demographics of america, you know, there are 50,000 american latinos that turn 18 every month. we should be making it easier for them. we should be having free, fair, and accessible elections, not making it harder for them to vote. >> and, matt, back to this report, what are some of the other key findings? >> well, the other key findings really focus on the fact that this is part of a larger comprehensive problem. you step back, you realize not only are we introducing in light of the voting rights act being dismantled essentially this summer, are we introducing more regressive laws that are doing away with same-day voter registrati registration, doing away with early voting, making the types of i.d. you can show more and more restrictive and less accessible to people.
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they're not allocating enough machines to districts that have high minority and student populations so that there's longer waits. but if you even step back from there, this is in context with citizens united. when money has been flooded into the system in an unprecedented way, where transparency is being dismantled, where money is now akin to speech so that only the rich people can be heard in our country. i think if you put this in conjunction with money and politics and with regressive laws being introduced that make it harder for people to vote, what we have found is that the next generation is going to have a harder time expressing their voice in a democracy, and that makes them opt out of the political process because they don't view it as an effective vehicle for change, and that is extremely damaging and dangerous. >> judith, why is it that minority voters are so disproportionately affected as we reported at the top of the segment? >> well, i mean, part of it is that -- we looked at virginia and florida, for example, where the longest wait times were.
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often we find that machines are not allocated in equal ways. we also know that so many of these laws that were passed recently like north carolina, for example, these laws were strategically and surgically crafted in order to disenfranchise particular groups. >> i don't mean to cut you off, but in terms of the reasons why, i mean, we reported that blacks -- young black are kept from voting nearly four times the rate of whites. what are the reasons for those racial discrepancies? >> well, i mean, a lot of it is about the actual structural barriers that are put in place. it is the fact that in particular places you may not have an allocation of machines that are adequate, you know, and we find that across the country the kinds of laws -- i mean, it really is about the structures that we're putting in place to make it for particular groups harder to vote. so, for example, in north carolina, where they pass that kind of kitchen sink of regre
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regressive law, what they also did was that they took away preregistration of 16- and 17-year-olds. they also moved, after they passed the law, they moved polling places off of college campuses in particular counties so that those folks would have to, you know, go two miles away, they'd have to walk to polling places where there's no sidewalks, for example, making it harder for those groups to vote. and so we see this as actual -- it's not just isolated incidents, but we're making it harder for young people to vote. we know that we have a more racially diverse young elect rat, and unfortunately state legislators are seeing it in their best interests for partisan gain to pass these laws to make it harder for them. >> judith and matt, thank you for your time. thanks for bringing this report to us first. oprah winfrey suspects criticism of president obama goes far beyond mere politics. [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that?
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tornado. and you can see a little further south, we have several tornadoes just east of peoria, illinois, and also stretching down into pars of southeastern missouri as well. so we do have these very strong storms that are moving from west to east anywhere from about 50 to 60 miles per hour. and on top of that, each individual cell is producing wind gusts up to 60 to 80 miles per hour. then when you get some rotation, that sparks some of those tornado warnings, that's when you see the extreme damage. we've already seen extreme damage with homes levelled in parts of washington, illinois, just to the east of peoria, so these have a history of producing extremely damaging wind gusts. that is what we are going to be focusing on throughout the next several hours. this isn't really going to wind down until later on this evening. it's heading next towards indiana then eventually ohio. so we will be tracking it, but there are strong storms in and around the chicago area right now. mara? >> thanks, dylan. we of course will continue to that right here throughout the afternoon. it's time now for today's
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"big three." our topics, no comparison, race and the president, and our must reads. let's bring in msnbc contributor and former bush/cheney senior adviser, jonathan traynam. dafna lindser, welcome to you all. robert, there's a divergence of opinions on our first topic. president obama's advisers are pushing back to comparisons to george w. bush. there were questions about his competency in this infamous moment after hurricane katrina. the sound we were going to play is of him but, you know, robert, what do you make of that? do you think it's a fair comparison? >> it's a bit of a stretch, and the reason why with hurricane katrina you had tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of lives that were at stake there. it's a little different, although health care is obviously equally important. the question becomes whether or not the president, meaning
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president obama, pushed his staff at the appropriate times all throughout the healthcare.gov rollout to ask the tough questions and make sure they were held accountable. it doesn't seem like that was the case, either a, because they were afraid of him and didn't tell him all the gory, bad detail over the summertime, or in fact he didn't ask the tough questions. regardless, he was asleep at the switch as ultimately he is responsible as he said. the comparisons to hurricane katrina are a bit of a stretch. however, this president is responsible for the debacle of what we now know of the health care rollout. >> msnbc.com has an article about this saying there's absolutely no comparison here. what are your thoughts? >> those are my thought, basically. i mean, i think, you know, people have been trying to find obama's katrina since the day obama was inaugurated. we took a look at every time this medium was used and tried to ato have it to this president. and it started shortly after he was inaugurated with whether or
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not aig bonuses for obama's katrina. i don't know why there's this desire to try and paint him in that moment that was, you know, a moment that basically altered president bush's second term completely. i term completely. i don't see the comparison. i understand what others are saying in terms of making sure that the president is seeing and hearing what the facts are on the ground. but i just think trying to create some kind of impression that president obama is overseeing a disaster the magnitude of a hurricane in which 800 people were killed just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense about. >> to your moipt, it is worth noting that people died in katrina, so it is a very delicate comparison. but jayen s ee ee ee een swra s think it could have the same effect that katrina's mismanagement had on george w. bush in terms if the government's website is not fixed at the end of the month, could it really speak volumes
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about his ability to move forward the rest of his term? >> i think it's a ridiculous comparison. scene made isn't even george bush's katrina. they said it was ray's fault. i don't think this makes send. it's been six weeks. if this is still a debacle by next november, fine. but i don't see any reason to say that this is something four alarm fair right now and it's another example of a ridiculous xaer s comparison to an actual tragedy. it'sridiculous pandering. ging ] ♪ hark how the bells, sweet silver bells ♪ ♪ all seem to say throw care away ♪ ♪ from everywhere, filling the air ♪ [ female announcer ] chex party mix. easy 15-minute homemade recipes you just pop in a microwave.
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breaking news out of chicago. we want to show you a photo of
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soldier field. the seating area has been evacuated in advance of a game there as a precaution as dangerous storms move through the area. we will continue to follow the story and the storms in the midwest throughout the afternoon. stay with us for the very latest on that. going back now to today's beg three panel, rthey're back o discuss the controversy created by oprah winfrey's comments. she speculated that race may be playing a role in some of the opposition aimed at president obama. so i want to start with you, robert. what do you make of that? >> unfortunately, it's true. race always rears its ugly head every couple of months. this is the reason why we say president obama cannot be the angry black man, why we had the birth certificate issue and so forth. so, yeah, i agree, no question about it. the question is whether or not it is hindering the president's job to do his job. and one can make the argument that there is a certain tinge of
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that. but he's the first, and hopefully making it easier for others to occupy the white house. >> how do you separate that from legitimate criticism? does it set up the position that you're afraid to criticize. >> i don't think anybody is afraid of criticizing president obama. i think the whole idea, though, is ridiculous. obviously there are people who don't like black people. and they don't leak tike black e and they don't like the president. oprah had a 10% drop in her ratings when she endorsed barack obama. but this is all part of the birth pain of the united states becoming a more diverse country in 2017 if we're all saying hey to hillary clinton, we'll hear about gender issues, as well. it's pretty much common sense for everybody. >> that does it for us. daphne, you're up next next time. i'm mara schiavocampo.
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talk to your doctor and visit crohnsandcolitisadvocates.com to connect with a patient advocate from abbvie for one-to-one support and education. this sunday, it may be the lowest moment of his presidency. >> i am not a perfect man and i will not be a perfect president. >> the obama care crisis, and the white house in retreat. >> we fumbled the rollout on this health care. >> democrats are in revolt as the clock is ticking on the government's website healthcare.gov. it does feel like the president is fighting on all fronts. his credibility is lower than ever before. and we don't know if obama care will even work. and how do you get young people to sign up for something they don't necessarily want? in a moment, i'll pose those questions to nancy pelosi, leader of the house democrats. plus, perspective and insights about the politics of obama care this morning.

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