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kerry sat down with powerful kurdish leaders trying to get them to help broker a new coalition government for iraq. shortly afterward, i sat down with him. that interview coming up. you come here as part of the mission to hold iraq together, yet they say right off the bat that there is a new reality, a new iraq. they want independence. what do you say about that? >> that a united iraq is a stronger iraq. and our policy is to respect the territorial integrity of iraq as a whole, and the president understands that. particularly right now. fight for survival. we are off to the races as two long-time fixtures on capitol hill face tough congressional challenges today. >> good morning to you. >> good morning to talk to you. surprised the race reached national recognition. and forget jones.
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forget messi. who cares about ronaldo? this is the new star of the world cup. >> it's a goal! good day to you. i'm peter alexander filling in again here in washington for andrea mitchell overseas as you have seen with secretary of state kerry and just landed literally within the last few minutes in brussels and hustled to the camera and joins us now. good morning to you. nice to see you. >> reporter: good morning to you from brussels or good afternoon from brussels. i have lost my voice somewhere along the way but i think we can get through this, peter. it's an extraordinary day. we flew here about six hours on a military cargo plane, a c-17. and so, it was very noisy and
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did talk to officials along the way and the readout of the meetings in northern iraq is not all that positive. he seems pumped up as he heads here to nato meetings tonight and tomorrow on ukraine, of course, but first the crisis in iraq. and he met with the most powerful leader of the kurds and makes they feel empowered. they have gained territory in the last two weeks of the three ethnic groups in iraq, peter, they're the only winners so far. their militias picked up back against isis and picked up kirkuk and not giving it up and secretary kerry's message in the meetings was you have to look toward the long-term stability. if you hang on to the territory, if i sis gains territory, you will have the al qaeda influenced terror group to the southern border an that is not the long-term future. the future is a coherent, stable
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iraq. this is how our conversation went. mr. secretary, thank you so much for doing this interview. you come here as part of your mission to hold iraq together. yet, barzani says right off the bat there's a new reality, a new iraq. they want independence. what do you say about that? >> that a united iraq is a stronger iraq. and our policy is to respect the territorial integrity of iraq as a whole. and president barzani understands that, particularly right now. at this moment, he is going to participate in the government formation process. he is committed to trying to help yet again to find a means of having a unity government to bring people together and deal with the dual crisis of the political dissension and division in iraq and the security challenge that's posed by isil. >> he opposed prime minister
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malaki. >> he does. he's opposed to prime minister malaki as some others are and up to iraqis to decide the future leadership. that's not for the united states to determine. >> even though it's not for the united states, obviously, to determine, as long as these powerful leaders, if the kurdish leader and others are against malaki, how can he survive? how can he lead a new coalition? >> that's honestly, what this government formation struggle is about. and we need to leave iraqis the space to make their choices. what i tried to encourage people and on behalf of president obama and our country is it is in our interest to have them make that decision rapidly, to get this done and create a government. because any choices that might be in front of the president with respect to isil and military action or anything else
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really will depend on the capacity of the government to follow through. if there's no legitimate government here, anything else can be wasted. and we don't want that to be the case. so, we need the government formation even as we -- are concerned about the advance of isil. >> all of the leaders said that they got the message from you. yet in the past, it took more than nine months last time around. if it drags out that way -- >> we don't have nine months. no nine months here. there's no nine months of play time. >> what happens? >> we made that very clear to them. there are no nine months and i think they view the threat of isil as a realistic reason to move quickly. the proof will be in the pudding. words are cheap. promises have been made previously and have been broken so nobody's sitting here taking words to the bank. the next week is going to be critical in their own discussions and their own
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coalitions and alignments and decisions. and the proof will be in the pudding as of july 1st and thereafter as to whether or not they get the job done and get it done quickly. >> opposition leaders here today said they don't want american intervention even as special forces end in small groups with the iraqi command. >> well, that's not intervention. what we're trying to do is help the -- and i understand what they don't want and president obama and the american people don't want that either. >> doesn't it put our troops at risk to have so much opposition to them being here? >> i think there is actually a great desire and otherwise they wouldn't be here. the government and everybody has asked them to be helpful with respect to planning, advising, some training, and assisting. but we are not here in combat role. we are not here to fight. the president has no intention, none whatsoever of returning
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american combat troops to iraq to go back to where we were. that's not in the cards. what we're trying to do here is assess what are the capabilities of the iraqi military? what is the situation on the ground? what is isil? how much of it is there and all the different options with respect to what you might do about them? and that will inform the president and the national security team to make judgments. >> there's a new poll today that has an all-time high, 58% of americans polled are opposing the president's foreign policy, a 10-point jump in the last month alone. >> well i think -- sure. that's a focus on the crisis in iraq and the difficulties that we are seeing with, you know, conflict. i mean, there's no question about it. but we just had an enormous success yesterday in completing the task of chemical weapons out of a country. if you ask israel, the prime minister will tell you that is a
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huge, positive accomplishment. >> yet more people are dying, not from chemicals. as dreadful as chemicals are. >> i understand that. >> the death toll in syria is horrendous. you know that. >> we do know that and the president is well aware and that's why the president increased the assistance that's going to the moderate opposition in syria. they are getting additional equipment, additional aids, sustainment. and there are some things that, you know, the united states obviously is considered and may or may not do, depending on what happens in the next months but i think that the president is clear about his intention to provide additional assistance. we are also the largest donor in helping to deal with the humanitarian crisis. >> before we run out of time, i wanted to ask you about the leader of iran who came out very stronger against an american role here. iran is already in baghdad and
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elsewhere. fighting against isis. with kurds force help and -- >> i think the last thing -- >> with the guys we think are the labad guys. >> the last thing that's going to happen -- i mean, the last thing would be iran dictating or having some influence on american foreign policy. the president of the united states will do what he believes is in the interest of our country and in keeping with our promises and responsibilities to our allies and our friends. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you. >> and peter, a couple of quick points from talking to senior officials. even though u.s. military advisers, green berets and others, are now embedding with their iraqi command colleagues in baghdad and elsewhere, if you will, this is not going to lead according to the senior officials traveling with kerry, not going to lead to some major military involvement. in fact, they say as long as
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there's no iraqi government, it would be pointless to engage even in military strikes, air strikes because there would be no follow-up, coordination. this is really the big pressure on malaki or others who might succeed him and other shiite leaders they hope to take the role and might be pushed out even though he's got more votes than anyone. the hope is that that reality, that the military partnership with the u.s., is really dependent. they don't say contingent but for it to work it's dependent on an iraqi government to carry its own way. they are, though, i understand considering strikes against isis along the syrian border, not in syria. they don't have good overhead surveillance over syria because of syria's anti-aircraft capabilities but considering trying to break up those isis supply routes with the improved surveillance on the iraqi side of the border and that's a big deal. >> andrea mitchell, we appreciate it very much. we'll let you get a cup of tea quickly and talk to you more
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about this leg of the trip and the crisis in ukraine. thank you for that. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel with the iraqi army and joining us now from baghdad. and richard, just out of the go gates, what you saw with the embed with the army and what it tells us about the present situation on the ground there. >> reporter: i think it reveals quite a bit. we were with the 17th army division and as you were hearing, my intrepid friend and colleague saying, andrea who lost her voice from the travels, that part of this trip, part of the reason that the advisers are here is to see what kind of condition the iraqi government is in and i think the result they're getting so far is the iraqi government is in terrible condition and want to see how strong the iraqi army is. we were with the 17th army division which is just south of baghdad, about 20 miles south of baghdad. they are trying to create a defensive perimeter around the
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city to prevent isis militants from coming in from the south and attacking baghdad and potentially toppling the government or at least bringing in car bombs and suicide bombings. the troops we saw were well equipped. they had many humvees, many different assault rifles, plenty of ammunition. the uniforms were in great condition. they looked like american soldiers. they were driving american humvees. so if you looked at them from afar, you would think you were in an old american convoy in baghdad back in the days of 2005, 2006. the problem is, they don't have any air cover. they don't have any tanks. they don't have any helicopters. planes don't come in for support and the commanders we were talking to said they almost feel like they're fighting on equal fighting with the mill tans. guns against guns. the militants will come in with heavy machine guns, arrive with
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artillery and how itsers seized from other places and the iraqi troops, supposed to be a big, organized army, is fighting back with the machine guns mounted on top of the old american humvees. without any air support and that's a very big difference. they -- this unit is still holding up. other units like we have seen out in the west, out in mosul and places where the militants are even stronger, have been completely collapsing. so, the unit we saw, held together. it looks good. they're able to mobilize. but they don't have a lot of offensive capability. they're at least at this stage just trying to secure the perimeter of this city but they're not in a position to go and take a major town or city. >> all right. richard, thanks so much. perspective on what the iraqi security forces look like right now. we appreciate that. glad you're home safe there back at your base in baghdad. ahead here, the runoff, it is decision day in mississippi
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where six-term republican senator cochran faces chris mcdaniel. haley barbour will join us next. also, the hot seat. after a contentious hearing last night on the lost irs e-mails, darrell issa is back for a second round today. >> yes or no, please. you're a hostile witness. yes or no, were you hired -- there will be order. >> i'm not a hostile witness. >> yes, you are. cheerios? honey nut. but... chocolate is my other favorite... oh yeah, and frosted! what's your most favorite of all? hmm...the kind i have with you. me too.
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senator cochran, why should you get six more years? >> well, i think the experience that comes with service on the defense appropriations committee, the budget requests of the president for funding of our department of defense and all the activities coming under
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their jurisdiction, and i think that experience is a very strong asset. >> six-term republican senator cochran, you saw him facing a battle in today's run-off race of tea party supported state senator chris mcdaniel. this is mississippi and senator cochran brought in a big gun last night, a prominent ally. take a look. >> we cannot afford not to have this experience hand at the tiller in the most dangerous times that i have ever seen in my lifetime. not only the eyes of the nation will be on this election tomorrow, but the eyes of the world will be on this election. >> former mississippi governor haley barbour also a supporter of senator cochran and joins us now. good to see you. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> help me break this down. money versus turnout. cochran outraised mcdon july.
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you have establishment versus tea party. who wins today and why? >> peter, the first that you said is wrong. cochran's campaign outraised mcdaniel's campaign, that's true. but outside -- >> outside money certainly had an impact, that's true. >> and look. cochran outspent in the first primary about $500,000 per congressional district. wildly outspent, all by this out of state money from -- run by political gunslingers looking for scalp. they're not -- after today they won't care about mississippi than the moon in the man. mississippians starting to see through that and particularly in the run-off. it's good for cochran. >> so give me a sense. is this the next example of the cantor effect sort to speak? what's the message if cochran loses tonight? the tea party obviously feels a surge lately. >> not the tea party. this is a bunch of out of state special interest groups like club for growth, senate
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conservative fund. you had john mccain on there. john mccain's father and grandfather were mississippians. from carroll county, mississippi. the people that come in for these outside groups to campaign, they're none of them from mississippi. they're from alaska and pennsylvania and hollywood and virginia. every republican statewide official in mississippi endorsed cochran because we're concerned about where mississippi's going to be the next six years, where all this money is pumped in by people with national agenda and need the scalp of cochran to stay alive. >> i want to ask you about a "the new york times" story that came out i think a couple of days ago. gop senator courts blacks in mississippi primary race. it was brought up with chris mcdaniel. here's what he said. >> i'm not concerned about him being african-american but liberal. that's always been my concern. if senator cochran is going to court liberal democrats to save his seat, it is a clear indication that he has abandoned conservatives in the state of
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mississippi. >> so is mcdaniel walking a line fine leer? >> not walking it very well. i mean, what he didn't say in the story is why are a lot of people very concerned about this race that didn't vote three weeks ago? because mcdaniel said federal funding of education is unconstitutional. he said the word education doesn't appear in the constitution. well, there are a lot of people that didn't vote three weeks ago because they didn't know he had said this. that are now up in arms. our state gets over ball and a half dollars in federal funding for education. chris mcdaniel says it's unconstituti unconstitutional. some of the people are african-american and democrats but tens of thousands of people concerned about mississippi schools are independents and they're republicans. they voted for thad cochran for re-election gets 766,000 votes 6 years ago but this is one of the things that's changed the election. it was the most nasty, negative
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campaign i've ever seen and people snuck in senator cochran's wife room in the nursing home and took pictures and put them on the internet. the run-off is dominated by real issues and it helps him and will increase the turnout because people care about our schools, our community colleges, our universities. enormously affected. >> talking about important issues. one issue that's taken center stage here in washington certainly in the last 24 hours or so and monoitoring it right now. the missing irs e-mails as part of the agency's targeting scandal, targeting conservative groups is the allegation. there's more of it this morning. take a listen and then i want your sense. >> clearly you are not pleased to be here. but it is important that you're here. you were at the irs and hired when we began our investigation and requested selected documents of louis lerner in may of 2013.
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is that correct? >> i started on may 30th. >> they hired you when we said we want a bunch of documents, correct? >> the acting commissioner -- >> yes or no, please. you're a hostile witness. yes or no. were you hired -- >> i'll not a hostile witness, honestly. >> yes, you are. >> a couple of questions for you right now. first of all, do you think that the issues surrounding the former executive there at the irs point to real structural problems within the irs and i guess separately no one disputes it's outrageous that the e-mails disappeared but is darrell issa and republicans hurting themselves overpoliticizing this? >> look, the federal government after saying to produce all these records back for years and having been asked for them and not producing them and then the justice department produced some records that the irs didn't, that really raises people's
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concerns about whether this is dealt with in an honest and open way. then to say, well, lois lerner's e-mail -- i mean, her computer broke down and then six other computers broke down. all of whom happened to be people -- i mean -- >> what do you call that in mississippi? >> i was born at night but not last night. that dog will hunt making that argument of the government's clean hands. there's no credibility they have clean hands. >> haley barbour, governor, always nice to visit with you. say hello to your nephew. he was always good to me. thank you so much. >> thank you, peter. today on capitol hill, homeland security secretary jay johnson announced new steps to address the surge of undocumented children crossing the border illegally. the flood of central american families and unaccompanied
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children overwhelmed the system. a congressional hearing today, secretary johnson warned parents of children trying to enter the u.s. illegally that the dangers and the risks are simply too great. >> and i don't see it as a free pass, particularly given the danger of migrating over a thousand miles through mexico into the united states. especially now in the months of july and august that we're facing. a lot of these kids stow away on top of freight trains which is exceedingly dangerous. i spoke to one kid who was about 12 or 13 who spent days climbed on top of a freight train, a boxcar. and these kids sometimes they fall off because they fall asleep. they can't hold on any longer. it's exceedingly dangerous.
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will have to just make up their minds and looking forward to returning to congress. >> that was charlie rangel this morning on msnbc. ethics violations supposed to sink him in 2010. redistricting the end of the political career in 2012. but the 22-term new york kongs charlie rangel defied the doubters and kept the seat. another political obituary ready for the institution on capitol hill. joining me, chris cillizza, casey hunt live in mississippi with more on the senate run-off there and want to begin with ron allen, live in the harlem section of congressman rangel's new york city district. this is a rematch for congressman rangel. he was declared the winner early in 2012 and a race that actually
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turned out to be very close, so what are you hearing from the campaigns today? >> reporter: well, of course, optimism and inevitability and all good things but you are right, peter. it was a race decided by about a thousand votes. of course, very low turnout elections and still a thousand votes is a very narrow margin. this time around, the camp is insisting there's more what they're calling institutional support. grassroots organizers and think get out espaillat's vote. he's been in the state assembly and senate and trying to enlarge the base in a congressional district. tall order given the legendary presence of rangel and record here, of course, won 22 times over the past 40 years or so. institution trying to do it one more time. he said this morning when he went out to vote this was going to be the last time that he would vote for himself. so, if he wins he won't be in the race two years from now and of course a much diminished
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figure of what he was back in the heyday and still a formidable player in this race today. >> john dingell is retiring. rangel refuses to walk away. has anything significant changed since the last time to see an upset tonight? >> no. i mean, you outlined, peter, why charlie rangel probably shouldn't be here now. 2010 in the midst of ethics problems. 2012, less african-american district and the trend in the district over time and won both the races, by a thousand votes in 2012 and still won. my guess is he's probably a little bit safer this time and i think honestly he was smart to say this is going to be my last campaign. it's -- you know, i think people are going to say, put him in one more time and then move on. it's harder argument to make to throw him out now when you know he'll go in two years, honoring
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the legacy of rangel. that's my guess what happens. democratic primaries in new york city based districts, that primary in terms of predicting turnout is difficult. >> casey, we turn back to you and mississippi for that matter. we spoke with former governor barbour and he emphasized heavily all the outside money that's come in in support of chris mcdaniel. that outside money made it a run-off and put us in the position today. how searched is the cochran camp today? >> you know, peter, it was really interesting to listen to governor barbour talk to you just then. i would say that the cochran campaign changed their tune a little bit. things were much more dire down here three weeks ago and talking to them. they were concerned at that point privately to lose the election outright and the run-off almost the better scenario and since then i think you are starting to hear a little bit more of a rosy picture and clear that the
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operation has started to swell on the ground here. and even just anecdotally there are more signs. absentee voting is way up from what it was in the primary. seeing more absentee ballots and suggests real on the ground organizing on the part of people experienced doing this and hint at the cochran campaign over the mcdaniel campaign. that said, cochran had a steep hill to climb. like you said, he has the support of outside groups and the main engine funding the campaign and you have seen them fighting against big funders in washington like senator mitch mcconnell coming in for senator cochran there at the end. i would also note you mentioned austin barbour and seeing a romney reunion and doing cochran's ads. >> a romney rehash in mississippi. thank you so much. chris, another race to note and that's in oklahoma. >> right. >> the race to replace senator coburn and seemed like it had a
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heavy favorite. there's a grassroots push for the oklahoma state representative, t.j. sanders. do you think they could add another african-american republican this november? >> there's a run-off dynamic here, too. there's randy brog dan and running and if he gets 8, 10, 12 point this is's possible for a run-off. i believe in august. a while from now. that might actually favor shannon being cast a conservative candidate and this is oklahoma and quite conservative. i think langford is the favorite. i think if anyone gets over 50 today, it's going to be langford. possible neither of them. i think shannon's best-case scenario is hold under 50 and say i'm the true conservative here over two months or so for the run-off. >> i'm sure oklahomans can't wait for two months of a
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run-off, right? thank you. we appreciate it. >> great to see you, peter. ahead, they started as adversaries on one of the biggest supreme court cases and later joined forces to fight for marriage equality and to defeat california's proposition 8. ted olson and david boyce share their unlikely story that led to the movement one year ago. >> this is a victory, not just for us, not just for the plaintiffs, not even just for the people worked for this so many decades. but for all americans. thank you. ♪ [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. and now telcos using hp big data solutions
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i thought that would be important for this court to have proposition 8 put in context, what it does. it walls off gay and lesbians from marriage. the most important relation in life according to this court. thus, stigmatizing a class of californians based upon their status and labeling their most cherished relationships as second rate, different, unequal and not okay. >> that is just a small part of the historic supreme court argument from ted olson against the ban on gay marriage and one year ago, prop 8 was out and same-sex marriages were again allowed to proceed in california. but olson wasn't alone and joined forces with former opponent david boies in a hard-fought legal battle to help thousands of californians gain the equality they sought for
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decades. gentlemen, nice to be with both of you right now. >> good to be here. >> i want to look back in a second but first, forward, mr. olson, we approach this anniversary as it were, what is left to do? what do you think is left to do to create true equality coming to gay marriage in this country? >> now 19 states and the district of columbia allow americans to marry someone of a same sex and leaves 31 states and there are cases pending all over the united states, they struck down statutes and stayed because of appeals. the next step ultimately is united states supreme court. david and i are handling the virginia case. >> right. >> along with some other lawyers. we have won that in the district court, argued in the court appe appeals. we think that might be the case and might be one of these other one that is will go to the supreme court, maybe next year. >> suffice to say your hands are still in this issue very deeply.
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if i can, david, pose to you back a year ago, did you have any sense of which way this would go as you anticipated a decision? take us inside your minds in those final days. >> in the final days we knew that there were three things that the court could do that would give us a victory and one thing the court could do to give us a defeat. the court could decide the case on the grounds that the people who appealed didn't have a right to appeal. that would preserve our win in the federal district court. they could decide the merits on a narrow ground that would apply to only eight or nine states or decide it broadly. >> what did you think would happen? >> i thought we were going to win on standing. i thought that was the easiest way for the court to -- >> did you recognize sort of monumental moment that existed before you, though? did you recognize when you walk outside -- >> absolutely. >> did you? >> the tension was very high.
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this was the first time, we were asking the courts to do something they'd never done before. >> of course. >> which is to hold that the federal constitution equal protection clause and due process clause protects gay and lesbian citizens from being discriminated against in terms of the right to marry the person they love. >> ted, i want to ask you about the men and women you fought for in court. paul, jeff, chris, sandy. you write in the book, these individuals would be the public faces of the case, subject to press scrutiny and questioning at trial, capable of grace under enormous pressure and they would have to be committed to staying together throughout it all. tell us a little bit about the character and the perseverance of those two couples, really, at the center of this. >> just talking about them brings tears to my eyes because they're courageous individuals, they were put in the spotlight. they were the center of attention. and pressure.
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and harassment and nasty telephone calls. >> intense was that in that inner circle? >> it was very, very, very intense. i mean, they put their lives out there for everyone to see. and that included people that were very hostile to them. they stood up under that pressure with such grace. they're such beautiful people. they're able to explain what their life was like, what their aspirations were, what their dreams were to be married again. they're featured in the hbo film "the case against 8" broadcast last night an i hope everybody in america sees that because they'll get an insight into the fabulous individuals and if you watch that or if you read our book and learn about them, you cannot not root for them. >> can i ask you about how this started? we have heard the story somewhat before but when you finally shook hands and said we're on the same team, what was that moment like? >> i was first asked to participate in the case. i'm known as a conservative
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lawyer with connected with conservative causes and didn't want it to be a conservative issue or partisan issue, a republican issue. >> it was a constitutional issue. >> it's a constitutional issue, an american issue. i reached out to david, the best lawyer on the planet thinking the two of us working together with the respective law firms project not only quality legal work but the idea that this had nothing to do with partisanship but american ideals. >> david, one thing i think struck right hee now, how the culture, the communities changed specifically an you note that in the recent decades, at least 18 openly gay and lesbian clerks served the court and as of early 2013, justices alike had selected gay men and or lesbians to be their clerks. that is very different than it was only a couple of decades ago. things have changed for the courts as well as for our communities. >> it is. and the thing i think changed most and most responsible for the changes that we have seen are the fact over the last several decades more and more
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gay and lesbian citizens have come out and openly shown their sexual orientation. that is enabled justices and ordinary citizens to see them as they really are and once you see them as they really are, you know they're sisters and brothers and sometimes children and parents and teachers and clients. you cannot justify the kind of discrimination that we subjected them to. >> david, ted, the book is "redeeming the dream." the best lawyer on the planet and a close second. is that fair for this occasion? usa and germany tomorrow, this week, your thoughts? >> usa. >> usa. >> all right. here's world cup action. brazil and mexico advancing with wins yesterday. but the excitement on the pitch as they call it overseas had tough sideline competition from this guy. mexico's manager. the epic goal celebrations turned him into an overnight media sensation and told a press conference after the match that mexico's win made yesterday one
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much more ahead here. we are going to check in again with andrea traveling with secretary of state kerry. first, sad news. the pentagon has now identified those three american marines killed in an ied attack in southern afghanistan happening friday. 34-year-old staff sergeant david stewart was from stafford, virginia. he leaves behind a wife and two young children. christine told our nbc affiliate in washington her husband was always positive, saying it didn't matter what was going on, all the joys in the life and then the hardships that come with five deployments, he just
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was my rock, she said. lance corporal brandon garabrant from new hampshire, just 19 years old and served as a volunteer firefighter. and lance corporal adam wolf, 25 from cedar rapids, iowa. his twin brother aaron said his brother joined the marines to serve and do something more important with his life. all three marines deployed from north carolina's camp lejeune. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ [ birds squawking ] my mom makes airplane engines that can talk. [ birds squawking ] ♪ my mom makes hospitals you can hold in your hand. ♪
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so what story will be making headlines in the next 24 hours? andrea mitchell back with us again from brussels. we know secretary kerry, a lot on his plate. a big portfolio. first iraq and ukraine. meeting in brussels with nato. what should we expect? >> reporter: well, this meeting is really with the allies right
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now. they have just been wrapping up a meeting behind me in nato and with the allies and rushed here from iraq determined to get here in time to make the u.s. case as you point the president talked to vladimir putin. putin with an eye, of course, towards weakening the european resolve for additional sanctions offered sort of a peace branch of sorts but u.s. officials don't want to put too much stock in it. he offered yesterday to rescind his march order authorizing russian military operations inside ukraine. this is a move to parliament, of course, anything he wants happens in parliament so it's pretty clear that they would happen and even today there's another tragedy reported. we have had it confirmed from the moscow bureau inside ukraine, a ukrainian military helicopter was shot down by a rocket from separatists they believe and that all nine people on board were killed. so, if putin thought that he was going to get some leeway with the allies here as they're
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considering stepping up the sanctions, something the u.s. wants, this action today downing a ukrainian helicopter and they're at the meetings and won't work very well. peter? >> thanks for there, peter. >> how you keep up the pace. i appreciate your letting me sit in the seat. >> reporter: absolutely. >> see you again tomorrow. thank you very much. >> reporter: thanks so much, peter. >> that does it for this edition of "an dree mitchell reports." ed royce and former senator olympia snowe. follow the show online on facebook and twitter. keep up with andrea's travels at mitchell reports. ron ronan farrow is here now. >> we have the latest on the mississippi mud slinging. we havehakim jeffries with a
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if you've been hit by... find out more about psoriatic arthritis. take the symptom quiz at and talk to your doctor. today in mississippi thad cochran could lose his seat to a tea party candidate. talk about losing the youth vote. >> chris mcdaniel is looking to defeat six-term senator cochran. >> abandoned conservatives in the state of mississippi. >> a staffer for senator cochran's campaign arrested for allegedly stealing and destroying chris mcdaniel signs. >> secretary of state kerry is trying to convince leaders in the north to join a new iraqi gft. >> the proof will be in the pudding. the next week is going to be critical as to whether or not they get the job done and
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quickly. since october, 52,000 unaccompanied minors crossed into the united states from mexico. right now the president doesn't have good options. >> the president is making this harder and harder every day. queen elizabeth did not sit on the throne today when she visited the set of hbo's hit "game of thrones" shchlt's visiting where the show is being filmed. >> a queen with fake power and a kingdom with more impact than she does. who can steal magnolia state voters? it's a primary day in mississippi and six-term republican senator cochran in a dead heat against chris mcdaniel. mississippi voters are divided. the low national ranking for poverty, in particular, cochran's been