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people want to see this city work. and they feel as if it's not work. >> new today from president obama, looking at life with a gop controlled congress. what can the country expect. back in the u.s., we are learning more today after those two americans detained in north korea come home. a big-time theft, not one, not two, but three super bowl rings taken from a former player's house. high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." there's a blast of bitter cold heading our way. a massive storm in alaska is pushing frigid arctic air toward the lower 48 bringing us the coldest weather so far this season. one of the places bracing for it is minnesota. a foot of snow is expected there. people, though, are taking it in stride. >> it's too early. too early.
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snow and minnesota is unpredictage. >> it's awfully cold. however i thought it would be a little bit worse. i did think it was going to be much worse. >> it's going to be my first snow. so i hope i survive it. >> alex wallace from the weather channel has more for us. >> good saturday to you, alex. cool conditions setting up across parts of the midwest. not too terrible. 5 maybe 10 degrees below average. tomorrow more of the same for us. 39 in traverse city. that's nearly 10 degrees below your average. down towards pittsburgh, tolerable at 48. i want to talk about what's coming, though, because big, big polar plunge settling in. right now all the cold air is bottled up into canada. next week it spills down into the country and the eastern half of the nation. really going to be dealing with bone-chilling numbers. ties will be 10 to 20 degrees below average as we head through next week. here we are a couple of cities to show you what it's going to be like. chicago for your sunday a high of 50.
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by thursday, only 32 degrees. oklahoma city goes from 71 to 38. and rapid city, 60 to 19 degrees. so here's monday as it all begins, highs are in the 20s. i want to point that out. these are high temperatures, not morning numbers. highs in the teens for you in rapid city by tuesday. working your way down towards oklahoma city. you'll start to feel that chill, as well. wednesday's high, 42 degrees. so all of these areas very cold. alex, the thing to remember it's not just going to be a quick hitter. we're talking the forecast here. this goes out all the way through next week. we're talking about the following week monday, these highs in minneapolis, staying below freezing. long lasting, alex. >> okay, alex wallace, if you say so. thank you much. new comments from president obama today on a wide-ranging -- wide range of topics including a little introspection about life in the white house. first he explained the decision to send 1500 additional troops to iraq to help in the fighting against isis. and he maintained that u.s. troops will not be in combat roles. let's take a listen.
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>> what hasn't changed is, our troops are not engaged in combat. essentially what we're doing is we're taking four training centers, with coalition members, that allow us to bring in iraqi recruits, some of the sunni tribes that are still resisting isil, giving them proper training, proper equipment, helping them with strategy, helping them with logistics. >> and joining me now with more, nbc news senior political reporter joining us from the white house. perry what more did the president have to say? >> the president laid out what he said was the first stage of the operation against isis was one to build up an iraqi new iraqi government, and two to use air strikes to really weaken isis at the beginning. and now what he said was the new phase is basically you need more troops. iraqi troops, in his words, he emphasized to really push back against isis. the second phase involves ground troops. he emphasized the u.s. troops
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will be training, and not in combat. at the same time, alex, he was asked could we need more u.s. troops and he says i don't think so but i never want to say never. interesting response in that case. >> absolutely. i think he's probably not wanting to hear the word mission creep or words mission creep at him. president also giving some insight into whether he actually likes being president. something his critics have hit him on. >> he did, alex. we got the video here. he used some phrases i never heard him use in terms of talking about his view of the presidency of the job. >> i love this job. and here's i think a fair statement. if your name is barack hussein obama you had to have liked politics in order to get into this office. i wasn't born into politics. and i wasn't encouraged to go into politics. i got into politics because i believed i could make a difference and would not have been successful and would not be
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sitting at this desk every day if i didn't love politics. >> yeah, i think, you know, we've had this question about why doesn't the president play golf with members congress? why doesn't he glad handle with them anymore? his argument is he likes poli c politics, he cares about the job. he may not be playing golf or having bourbon with mitch mcconnell but he's passionate about being president. his argument was we talked about ebola a lot a few weeks ago but you think about it the u.s. did contain ebola. his presidency, his policies do work. his politics need work is what he said basically. his policies have been pretty effective. he argues he needs to work more and work more on making sure the politics are right around. >> okay, perry bacon thank you much from the white house. targeting the top, today u.s. officials are investigating whether air strikes in iraq on friday took out a gathering of isis commanders possibly including leader abu al bagadi. this as the president authorized
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1500 additional troops to be sent to iraq. he now plans to go to congress to ask for new war powers for the open-ended fight. joining me now adam schiff, member of the intelligence committee and appropriations committee. representative schiff, thank you for joining me. >> thank you. >> first up do you have any information on whether any isis leaders or the man at the top, were they hit? >> i don't have any information yet. we expect to be briefed i hope later on this week. but, clearly our intelligence is getting better both in terms of some of the strikes that we've had in syria and in iraq. this doesn't look like it was simply a matter of opportunity where you had ten vehicles, and we saw this mass formation and went after it. it looks like we had intelligence that this included leadership. so, we'll find out soon i hope although if you look at how difficult it still is to get good intelligence, we're trying to evaluate that strike on t khorasan group, the one that took place on the first days of
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the air campaign. so it could take a long time to get good intelligence on the impact of these strikes? >> speaker boehner said in friday's white house lunch that the war authorization should wait until the new congress takes office next year. i'm looking at the letter that you wrote dated wednesday, in which you were saying exactly the opposite, that there should be a vote taken during this lame duck session of congress. talk about the difference there. why you said what you said and why you think john boehner is going the way he's going. >> alex, i don't think we should have ever recessed for the elections while there was a war going on. a war that's likely to last years. when we're in the middle of an intense bombing campaign. you saw the british parliament called back into session. in our country the constitution gives congress alone the power to declare war and i don't want to see us compound the abdication of our responsibility by going back in to session, not debating the war and then going out of session again until next year. i think that would set a terrible precedent for future administrations who will believe, quite rightly if this is how we behave, that they can
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make war without congress' approval. i think that would be a terrible precedent to set. >> to add to that, if given the possibility, which we can now give in the timing here, shouldn't the people who are going to be accountable for this war have their names on it? >> i certainly think so. and i know that some in the gop have been making the argument that let's let the new crop of members vote on this since they'll have to live with the consequences. we're all going to have to live with the consequences. and this conflict has already been going on for a couple months. and there's simply no good reason for delay. we will have other votes next year for the new members of congress. we'll have votes to appropriate the funding to continue the military campaign. so they will have a chance to weigh in. i think this is just a desire from the leadership to get in and get out and put off as much as they can until the new majority takes form in the senate. that's a political consideration. that's at odds with our constitutional imperative and i think would be a big mistake.
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>> this new troop authorization, sir, that's going to more than double the u.s. deployment right now. many are going to the anbar province. that is not exactly the green zone. the president also wants an additional $6 billion for this. he says it isn't, however, there are some who are suggesting, it is mission creep plain and simple. what's your take? >> well, i don't think that's mission creep. because, the mission still is to train up the iraqi forces. it's not to have americans engaged in combat. it is a deepening commitment to the conflict. i think we need to recognize some of these troops are going to be very much at risk. can't be, as you point out, in a place like anbar without being at risk. the danger of mission creep, i think, is more significant in syria, where we are going after the khorasan group, where we're trying to protect towns like kobani. they are our mission does seem to have expanded, and that's an area of concern. you know, if i look at the sum picture of what's going on right now, there are some good reasons for optimism in iraq, as we've
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halted the momentum of isis and we're seeing sunni and shia fight together which we haven't seen in a long time. but there are also great reasons for concern in syria, where the reaction to our bombing of khorasan by the moderate so-called moderate rebels has been one of great opposition on hostility. and that ought to concern us greatly. >> and also relative to syria, another big surprise this past week the president's letter to iran's ayatollah khamenei to discuss isis as important as iran is in the region, their goals are counter to that of the u.s. iran wants to fight isis to prop up assad in syria. and keep the sheet dominance in iraq, so how much cooperation should there be? >> well, i don't think there's going to be a lot of cooperation. there are areas where interests intersect, and there are obviously areas where our interests are very much in contradiction to each other. we both want to defeat isis and we don't want to be fighting each other, for example, in iraq. so to the degree that we want to make sure that we're not attacking them, they're not attacking us, that they're all
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going after isis, that makes sense to make sure that we deconflict at the same time as you point out we're going to have inherent conflicts about the assad regime. although i will say this. and this is, i think, where the hope lies for an end of the syrian civil war. that is i don't think assad is an essential figure not essential for tehran, not essential for moscow, certainly not essential for us, and i hope we can get to the point where there is a transition to phase him out and have an acceptable government to all of the regional powers, including saudi arabia, gulf state regional allies, that will at least pave the way for an end to this horrible war. because without an end to the civil war, there's not going to be an end to isis in syria, either. >> but getting to this reaching out to iran perspective here, did something specific on the ground change to warrant all this? or was it just sort of an evolution that isis is going to be a much harder fight? >> well, i think, and i don't
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know what the contents of the president's letter was but i have to think that the more pivotal factor is the time line on the nuclear agreement that the president is making a last effort to see whether that can be accomplished by that late november date, and frankly, i'm skeptical of the power of any kind of personal persuasion on the ayatollah. i think his calculation is what is best for the per pet use of that regime. and if they decide it's confrontation with the west, and the lack of a nuclear agreement, and it certainly plenty of signs indicating that, then we won't have one. but i think the timing of that moredo do with the expiration of the nuclear agreement than with the isis conflict on the ground. >> one quick question at you about life after the midterms in terms of what can realistically get done with a democratic white house and completely republican capitol hill? >> i think initially we're going to see some of the same kind of fights we expect. they're going to try to repeal
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obama care. the president will be reluctantly forced to go forward with executive action because the republicans won't put forward an immigration bill. but after we get through that i think there's an opportunity for real progress here. there's incentive for the gop congress to show it can do something. it's not simply a party of no. and there's incentive for the democrats to get things accomplished as well. so we could, and i know it's counterintuitive, have a productive two years. and i think both sides ought to work to make that happen. >> okay. let's hope. adam schiff, nice to see you. thank you so much. other news now this morning kenneth baechlt and matthew miller are spending their first full day back on american soil after being freed from captivity in north korea. kenneth bae spoke about his appreciation for the release. >> it has been just amazing. blessing to see so many people
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getting rereesed the last two years. i'm standing strong, because of you. and thank you for being there in such time as this. >> bae had been in north korea for two years after being arrested for having a bible after miller was convicted of espionage. a former nfl linebacker says someone stole his three soap buhl rings and he wants them back. mike grabel said someone broke into his home in suburban houston and took off with them. he posted a message on twitter warning pawn shops about the theft. >> that's really sad. from what i've heard i think they just relocated here this summer and to have this happen, that's really sad. those guys want to get in your house bad enough they will. and that's scary. >> grable, who is a coach of the houston texans say the rings should be pretty easy to spot. british prime minister david cameron and his wife planted the last two poppies at a huge installation at the power of
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who shot bin laden? that is the question that has caused a firestorm of controversy from the tightly knit special operations community to the department of justice. robert o'neill came forward in an interview with "the washington post" this past week saying he was the one who killed osama bin laden. in that night time raid in pakistan it was 3 1/2 years ago
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now this comes as another member of the s.e.a.l. team is about to publish his second book. he's now under investigation by the justice department suspected of revealing classified information and both men have been ostracized by the s.e.a.l. community for speaking out and profiting on their service breaking that code of the so-called quiet professionals. joining me now is steve clemens. editor in large for the atlantic. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> could this story could it ever this story really stay secret especially in a town like washington? >> well i mean you'd think over the long run perhaps not. but, what has begun to break open i think is a competition among various members of that team about what the truth is. and as many have noted, without an autopsy it's very hard to sort of know exactly who did what to bin laden. i think broadly, what's sad about this is that you have so many people literally hundreds of people who were heroes involved in that operation, and you have a couple of individuals that are placing themselves in
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the limelight as if they delivered something that none of their other colleagues did. and i think that's putting a lot of pressure not only on those other members of that team, but there are many covert operations that we know nothing about that may have gone well, that may have gone badly and those people kept their silence. that's part of the tension right now. >> it is a team. one person can't do what he did if he pulled off the shot without everybody on the team doing what they had to do. that has to be recognized. i'm curious about operational secrets. have any specifically been revealed in bisonette's book? >> i've read bisonette's book and it's hard for those of us on the outside to know what would be considered operational details that might have repercussions or echo effects on things that we just don't know. it's interesting that mark's next book was cleared by the department of defense his first book was not. and that's the one for which he's under investigation. it's also unclear that anything robert o'neill has put out there, whether or not there will be some sort of judicial action.
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i think it's very important to know that the two individuals, the force master chief and the rear admiral in charge of the navy s.e.a.l.s have sent out a letter without mentioning either person's name but said that these kinds of actions call for judicial action. and so it proms the issue that perhaps they will take action for against o'neill. essentially to send a signal to others not to do this. >> but if no specific operations were reached, i mean i understand the community being angry at them and maybe ostracizing them but what is the main grievance of the government from a legal perspective? because they certainly were not trying to keep bin laden's death a secret. >> no. but i think there are issues related to secrecy and the nation of an operation in which all aspects of it -- you may recall that the photographs of bin laden were essentially buried and not released to the public. we all know he was killed. we all know he was shot. but there are a lot of reasons that those photographs were not released. so it's hard to say.
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you and i are both journalists. we like transparency. but there are times when it's easy to imagine other covert operations in which the secrets and details will remain secret for a very long time. you know, decades. and in this case we're seeing a speeding up of history. these details probably would have come to be known in 20 or 30 years under our intelligence acts where secrets are divulged. but to put them out 3 1/2 years after the incident, so that the individuals involved can benefit either in their profile, or in profits, is something to be worried about. >> do you think the department of justice has any intentions of actually prosecuting mark bisonette given the public backlash that could ensue? >> i don't know. i think it could easily go both ways. when you look at as you just said both men have been ostracized by many other navy s.e.a.l.s and by those running the program right now. and so it's hard to see where public reaction i've been following twitter feeds on this
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and i think it comes down on both ways. i don't have any idea what the department of justice will do. i do know that if they don't take some action it will be perceived by others as a green light to begin divulging other stories about other incidents. i think that's one of the big flash expects that people worry about. >> in terms of other stories you are echoing the sentiments of bisonette he says this is an issue of the double standard. you've got the generals, defense secretarys, cia directors, they're all writing books, divulging some certain element of operations so why can't the rank and file do it. does he have a point there? >> he's absolutely right. i think sometimes when you see big decisions taken and these kiss and tell books at the white house or what people did on who are on what side of a decision line at some point and going out and telling those stories, even before the administration has gone out of office it seems untoward, it seems improper. i have to give mark bisonette
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some credit for raising that saying why aren't those people on the front line given that opportunity? there's a lot of equities that are complicated and i think the behavior of people higher up the food chain is also something that we should be debating and questioning. >> then we'll have you back to do that another time steve clemens. thank you. to what city would you most want to move for a new job? the top answer in today's number ones. first a look at moments ago a spectacularly lit brandenburg gate in berlin, germany, as that country and the world marks 25 years since the berlin wall came down. one of the defining moments of the fall of communism as west and east germany came together in november of 1989. as you may remember in june of 1987 the brandenburg gate served as the dramatic back drop for president ronald reagan's stirring demand to soviet leader mikhail gorbachev the president's words at that time, mr. gorbachev open this gate. mr. gorbachev tear down this wall. and so it was nearly 2 1/2 years later the gate opened, the wall raised, in a very public way.
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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." two americans are back home after being held prisoner in north korea and they had an unusual representative accompanying them back to the u.s. nbc's senior white house correspondent chris jansing has those details for us. >> hi, alex. president obama approved this mission past week, some members of congress were given a heads-up, some of our allies in that region. it's really hard to overstate the intricacies or surprising details of this plan. the highest ranking u.s. official in more than a decade visiting one of the most secretive places on earth. at the end of it all, it was a family reunion. for kenneth bae this was the embrace he waited two long years to feel. the american finally reunited with this family. >> i just want to say thank you
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all for supporting me and lifting me up and not forgetting me. >> reporter: bae touched down on u.s. soil at a military base outside of seattle. with him matthew todd miller who arrived into the waiting arms of his parents after he was held for the last seven months. it was a dramatic and emotional ending to their imprisonment with all the intrigue of a spy story. the secret mission was headed by america's top spy james clapper, after a series of sensitive back channel negotiations that included china. >> there are ways in which they can communicate with us, largely through their mission to the u.n. in new york. this was the final step in a very well choreographed ballet. >> reporter: he carried a short message from president obama. but officials say north korea wasn't offered anything in return. >> well, i think it's a wonderful day for them and their families. obviously we're very grateful for their safe return. >> reporter: miller allegedly ripped up his visa when he arrived in north korea and was
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convicted of espionage. bae, a missionary arrested for having a bible, had been hospitalized after working in a labor camp. >> it's been an amazing two years. i learn a lot. i grew a lot. lost a lot of weight. in a good way. but i'm staying strong because of you. >> reporter: standing by his side, his sister who had worked tirelessly to see this day. >> we're finally here. my brother is home. all of our hopes and prayers for this moment have finally come true. >> reporter: that joyous reunion notwithstanding white house officials say very clearly this was not a diplomatic mission. it was a mission to bring home two americans and does not address concerns over north korea's nuclear program. and while there, james clapper did not meet with that country's unpredictable leader kim jong-un. alex? >> all right, chris jansing at the white house. thank you. in a new interview today president obama said the administration's failure at times to sell its policies contributed to the midterm
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losses. but they're not giving up yet. >> it's not enough just to build a better mousetrap. people don't automatically come beating to your door. we've got to sell it. we've got to reach out to the other side, and where possible persuade. no matter how frustrating it can sometimes be, for any president to deal with an opposition that is pretty stubborn, and where there are really strong differences, you just got to keep on trying. >> and joining me now was one of the newest members of that opposition, florida republican congressman elect carlos caballo. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much for having me. >> does this new class in congress have any intentions of trying to work with the white house? what are you hearing from your n newly elected colleagues? >> i'm confident that republicans in congress want to show that ee can move forward an agenda for this country that
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will lead to economic growth, job growth, wage growth and i'm also very hopeful that president obama doesn't want the last two years of his presidency to consist of just an infinite number of vetoes. i think we're going to see both sides come to the table and find where we agree on issues like tax reform, jobs bills, maybe even immigration reform. that's the attitude i'm coming to washington, d.c. with. i think that's the attitude that my neighbors back home in south florida want us to have up here in d.c. and i remain very hopeful. >> okay. speaker boehner said to the president would poison the well if he acted unilaterally on immigration reform with executive action. won't republicans be guilty of the very same thing in terms of tenor if you immediately try to repeal obamacare in january? >> what i think we can do with obamacare is find where even the white house has recognized that the law is flawed, take that low-lying fruit, get some bills passed, start building some trust. there's some provisions in
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obamacare, like the 30-hour work week for example, the medical devices tax, that are unpopular with members -- among members of both parties. so if we take those initial steps i think that will help us build the trust to start to continue working to the on other issues, and we have to be honest. there are some issues that we will never agree on. but i think there's plenty that we can get done in this congress and both sides can show the american people that congress can function, pass bills, and that our government is competent. >> is one of those issues immigration if the president does wield his pen to take executive action between now and the end of the year? >> i'm fully committed to immigration reform no matter what the president does. but i would caution the president. i do believe we have a real shot at getting this done. in the 114th congress. i know that leadership both in the house and in the senate on the republican side understands the importance of this issue. so while the president certainly has the power to issue executive orders i hope that he is respectful of congress'
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authority to make laws, and that he's not reckless about it because then if he can, it could certainly poison the well. but i think we can get it done no matter what. >> i'd like to play a clip from your cpac speech a bit earlier this year. >> our friends on the other side have done quite a number on us. they've convinced many americans that we only care about the wealthy. and that the poor are merely an inconvenience for us. and yet the great irony is that the left has intentionally, or not, hindered the progress of low-income earners in this country. >> so what specifically do you hope to do to help the poorest americans when you get to washington? >> look, i like some of paul ryan's ideas on reforms our anti-poverty programs. a lot of these programs measure their success by how many people are enrolled in them, and i don't think that's what they're supposed to do. the goal is to get people off of these programs, because that means that they're doing better and that they're on their own and their children are getting a
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better education. so i really think that we need to revisit our investments in a lot of these programs. we perhaps can direct more money to education, making sure we hold our colleges and universities accountable for giving young people, especially low-income people, a good education. and i really believe that the republican party is the party of economic growth, of opportunity for all, and especially of many people like immigrants who want to come to this country and work hard, play by the rules, and get ahead. so, what i said at cpac i'll say again today, the republican party doesn't need to concede any voter in this country to the democrats. especially low and middle income families that are trying to get ahead. i'm committed to a reform agenda that's going to help those families, and that includes education. it includes reforming our anti-poverty programs, making them more effective. and job growth in this country. >> but as you're well aware, some of those programs you're talking about that republicans are arguing they want to cut into really help people with the
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quality of their lives. what do you propose to do specifically other than cutting into those programs to improve people's lives? >> it's not a matter for me of cutting those programs. it's a matter of reforming them so that they are more effective. we have to decide whether we want to help people get by, which is what a lot of these programs are doing, or whether we want to help people get ahead. so, no one's talking about cuts. no one's talking about, you know, not helping the people that need it. the question is, how we help people. and i look forward to working with paul ryan and others like senator rubio on the senate side, on how we can make these programs more effective. >> i'm curious, two years from now, have you given some thought to when you're running for re-election. what is the one main thing you're going to want to be able to say that you accomplished during your first term? >> so there are a lot of important issues out there. investments in transportation infrastructure, tax reform, education reform. but i think above and beyond all of that the american people want
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to believe in their government again. we're in the midst of an economic recovery yet two thirds of the american people think the country's on the wrong track. and i think a big part of the reason for that is that people see the government, they see all the bickering, they see a lot of the incompetence like what we've seen out of the v.a., the irs and other agencies, and they just lose hope and trust in the future of the country. so, one of my big goals is to show that republicans, in my case, are willing to come to the table, to work with democrats on bipartisan solutions, work with the president when he's willing to work with us, and move forward an agenda that can make the country proud, that can restore the trust and confidence that the northern people want to have in their government. i really think that should be the main goal for this congress and for this president over the next two years. >> all right. congressman-elect from florida, carlos curbelo. we look forward to having you back on the broadcast. >> any time. >> the second round of open
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act really failed to take hold. there was an effort early on by republican governor haley barbour and insurance khigszer mike cheney to build a state exchange in mississippi. this goes back to 2007. it predated the passage of the affordable care act, it predated the supreme court decision. there was an effort under way in mississippi to do this. at that point they weren't necessarily thinking about federal subsidies or a lot of rules and regulations that the affordable care act set up but it had come out if you remember the heritage foundation had come up with this idea of these exchanges for insurance. so it was something that when haley barbour started to learn about he thought this could be a good idea for a lot of the small businesses in mississippi that were having a really hard time providing insurance. then republican governor phil bryant was elected. he was really heralded by the tea party as the first tea party governor in the united states. and so around 2012 or so, when the supreme court ruled in june
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2012 that the law would stand, really the mood in mississippi very much began to change. and there became this idea that anybody who supported the exchange in mississippi, the state-run exchange, was really siding with the obama administration. and in this article, in politico magazine this month i detail how this republican insurance commissioner mike cheney was really in a sense, you know, put on the outs by his own people in mississippi. and the state ended up having to rely on >> interesting. what is the sense in terms of entering the second enrollment now? are some of the biggest issues completely worked for? or is there confidence they will be worked through if there are problems? i mean that they've made mistakes in the past and learned from it? >> well, we're at a similar -- reporters around the country are all waiting as the american public is for november 15th to see what happens when the switch is flipped, if you will. we know that the president has said that they are double-checking, triple-checking the website. we know that a security
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independent security company has come in and said that the website is 98% secure. this is far better than most websites. we know that the administration has paired now with the department of homeland security to try and run the system through some cyber threats. so i think we'll all be waiting to see what happens on november 15th about whether or not there's the kind of waits we saw last october. i can't imagine it will be much worse. >> okay. clearly there's a huge election that's happened. republicans controlling both congresses now. here's what the president said the day after in terms of republican positions against obamacare. >> there's certainly some lines i'm going to draw. repeal of the law. i won't sign. efforts that would take away health care from the 10 million people who now have it, and the millions more who are eligible to get it. we're not going to support. >> what could republicans do to
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invalidate even just a part of it? >> so, a couple of the ideas that they have mentioned, and mr. boehner and mr. mcconnell in "the wall street journal" editorial op-ed this week kind of laid out some of their ideas, and then they've expanded upon them since then. certainly this medical device tax which is the 2.3% tax on medical devices like artificial hips or pacemakers. and this fills about -- it's about a $28 million to $30 million hole if you were to repeal that tax. part of the problem with repealing that tax is there's a lot of other health care providers, whether that's insurers or hospitals, or makers of brand-name drugs, that are also all being taxed. if you remember back when they were putting the aca together it was we need everybody to contribute in order for the math to work on this. so there's a lot of insurers and others who are saying if you're going to treat the medical device companies, give them special treatment and take away their tax, what about us? so i think there's a lot of concern that if you start to pull on this thread, you know,
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the entire sweater could sort of unravel, if you will. the other thought was this idea of dropping the 40-hours did i'm sorry removing this 30-hour work week and going back up to a 40-hour work week. if you remember back when they were talking about the designing the affordable care act part of the reason why they went with this much lower threshold of 30 hours was because it would be very easy for employers to say, well, this person no longer works 40 hours, they just simply work 39. so they wanted to make the threshold much lower to make it much more difficult for the employers to game the system. >> okay. thank you very much, appreciate your insights. >> thank you. >> keeping the faith in president obama, next the nor of a new book explains why support for the president depends on generation and not class. john and horace dodge launched their first car in 1914. but they were not only business partners, they were brothers. competitive, stubborn... and always pushing each other. the way only brothers can.
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some new insight into the african-american vote and how important it will be in future elections. it comes at a pessimistic time for some voters. an exit poll from tuesday found one in five see progress in race relations while 38% say things have gotten worse. joining me now, author of
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"blackballed" the black vote and u.s. democracy. he's written a recent "new york times" op-ed titled should black voters keep their faith in obama. welcome. glad to have you here. want to ask you about the midterms. you said these elections were important because two more years of gridlock is more than just gridlock. can you explain what you mean? >> i think that the bickering and confrontation only contributes to the sense of disaffection and disillusionment with the political process. midterm elections, the low turnout, that's always been a problem. a mystery in american politics. but, i don't think that we can afford to accept that this is just the cycle that we tend to go through. white guys showed up, white guys over 50, white guys of a certain income, they vote from a certain habit. even as they voted for the republicans, they voted to raise the minimum wage, and they voted to legalize marijuana, women
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didn't. but the coalition that put obama in in 2008, and 2012, stays home in the midterms. and it has the effect of nullifying the presidential elections. >> interestingly i'm looking at your "new york times" op-ed in which you wrote about how president obama's often criticized for not helping more for black people not because they're black but because they're among his most loyal supporters. you write black people in turn can be frustrated that the black point of view is always get orrized, never allowed to be simply the american point of view especially when the issue at hand is about social justice. so elaborate on that. >> well, when you think about say racial profiling. 600,000 incidents annually in new york these are not 600,000 people being stopped. these are the same young people being stopped over and over again. so you make the point that there's a certain kind of policing that goes on that's
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unfair to blacks, unfair to the poor, unfair to the sort of inner city. and these are sort of looked at as special interest arguments. but actually, every american has a stake in civil rights. because it's really about human rights. >> all right. i want to go to a wit more here on your book in which you said you wrote it as an apology to your parents for your arrogance because one time you found conversations about black history to be tiring and always about discrimination. but now you see it was about the need for justice. so what changed you? >> i'm afraid i got old. >> hardly. >> well, it happens. and it gives you a sort of different perspective. james baldwin said in 1963 to a group of unemployed black youth in san francisco that in 50 years time there would be a black president in the united states of america. but it would be a very different country. and we feel that things have remained the same for blacks, and in terms of black conditions, that's also true.
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but psychologically we are a very different country. it's one of the reasons that racism is now so hard to find. it's that the overt racism has kind of gone away. but yet, you know, there remains a kind of a systemical institutional problem for a lot of blacks, and i think that the older you get you can sort of see these changes whereas the young, thinking much more sweeping and immediate terms. >> is that why you say that black support of the president mostly depends on generation and not class? >> yes. i had a conversation with a young woman and she said that in 2012 she didn't vote because she was tired of being offered only a choice of the lesser of two evils. i was really shocked. what is evil about barack obama? this is a man of great intelligence, and integrity. he would not be the first political figure in american history to be maligned in his time. and underappreciated. but i think that he actually
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deserves more support from us than he gets. >> you write that he gets no credit for anything, but i think history will look at him very differently. how do you think history will judge him? >> i think that history will judge him as the man who guided us out of economic crisis. got us out of iraq and iran, no matter what sort of happens with isis. signed the affordable health care act and simply by his press ens and that of the first family does a lot to change the image of black people in america. this man is in a way president of the world and it's harder to criminalize the image of a black male with barack obama sitting there in the white house. >> harvard professor and author darrell pinckney thank you so much for your insights. you are what you eat. how the foods you feed your baby could determine what they eat for the rest of their lives. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to
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they're young, they're impressionable and they are bred to kill. a shocking look at islamic state's young guns of terror. red day of remembrance. a dramatic display honors the memory of fighting forces from the war to end all wars. it's a reversal of approval. a new gallup poll on america's changing position on pot. and nutritional nightmare. the impact of income inequality takes a toll on babies at meal time. okay, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we're going to bring all that to you in just a bit. first fresh reaction today from president obama after the democrats losses in the midterms. the president addressed that on cbs' "face the nation." when asked whether he was to blame the president says the buck stops with him. >> whenever as the head of the party it doesn't do well, i've got to take responsibility for it. i -- the message that i took
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from this election, and we've seen this in a number of elections, successive elections, is people want to see this city work. >> joining me now with more, nbc news senior political reporter perry bacon from the white house. so perry, what more did the president have to say about all the losses last week? >> you saw a shift in tone. if you watched his press conference on wednesday, the president essentially said people are mad in everyone in washington in both parties. he mentioned two thirds of the people who are eligible to vote didn't vote. a lot of you are kind of downplaying the results. i heard a different tone today. he said he was afraid there was a failure of quote failure of politics from his white house in terms of communicating their views to the american people. he also talked about the buck stops with me. if i'm the leader of the party and the party loses elections that's my responsibility. so you saw a tone where he seemed to accept more responsibility for these losses than he did earlier in the week. >> he also touched on immigration. and his commitment to act on
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this topic this year. so talk about that. >> this is his third time discussing immigration since the election and his message was very similar to the first two. take a listen. >> i'm going to do what i can do through executive action. it's not going to be everything that needs to get done. and it will take time to put that in place. and in the interim, the minute they pass a bill that addresses the problems with immigration reform, i will sign it and it supersedes whatever actions i take. and i'm encouraging them to do so. >> so, alex, the president basically in his interview gave speaker boehner a deadline. he said if you don't act by the end of the year, i will do this executive action. you see this really strong conflict. the other important detail is we don't really know what the executive action is going to be ultimately. there's been talk about some kind of proposal which basically 4 million of the estimated 11 million undocumented workers would be legalized in some
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process with the president. that will cause a big conflict. if the number is as much as 4 million that's a big deal. it was 1 million or 2 million i wonder how much the republicans will fight that. they'll still be upset. they'll be less upset. so the key detail to think about now is what exactly does it look like and that's where we need to learn more about it as the president gets closer to his announ announcement. >> thank you very much, perry bacon. there's a big chill heading to parts of the u.s. the weather channel's mike seidel has more from minneapolis where the mercury is heading way down. hi, mike. >> good afternoon, alex. from the minneapolis farmer's market this will likely be the last day they're open for the season. they will sell christmas trees but with the cold coming in and the snow, this will be it. however today there's a pretty decent crowd. they've got a lot of fresh vegetables. they pulled all the greens, these farmers i talked to, out of the ground this week. the green vegetables basically clear-cut because they knew what was coming in. that is a lot of cold air and a
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lot of snow. winter storm warnings in parts of six states from montana, wyoming, throughs dakotas, minnesota, wisconsin. those warnings kick off this evening continue monday night into tuesday as the storm spreads the snow from west to east. it's already snowing in parts of montana this afternoon. that's about 5 million people under winter storm warning. many more will be impacted by the arctic chill that descends south over the next two to three days. temperatures in the next couple mornings certainly by tuesday morning, will be down below zero in parts of big sky country. here in minneapolis, next week, we could see our first subzero low in november in 17 years. we're going to stretch together at least 11 consecutive days of subfreezing highs here in minneapolis-st. paul. that would be the second longest stretch on record. as far as snow fall totals, the sweet spots are to wisconsin, the u.p. of michigan may see as much as a foot to a foot and a half of snow. most of that again will fall monday, and monday night.
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then the cold air heads south towards dallas, towards houston and east towards chicago in the coming days. alex back to you. >> okay, mike seidel thank you much. other news now, two americans are in their first full day back on american soil after being freed from captivity in north korea. kenneth bae and matthew miller returned late saturday night. kenneth bae spoke about the outpouring of support. >> it has been just amazing blessing to see so many people getting me released the last two years. i am standing strong because of you. and thank you for being there at such time as this. >> they have been in north korea for two years after being arrested for having a bible. miller was convicted of espionage. a memorial in britain aattracting worldwide attention. hundreds of thousands of ceramic poppies have been placed at the tower of london in honor of the
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country's world war i veterans. kelly kobe yell la is joining me from london with more. looking at the news feed pictures of this. you can't go on twitter or facebook without seeing these pictures everywhere. >> it is so stunning. and so moving. alex. especially when you see this in person. this moat around the tower of london just covered in red. people stand, they stop, they observe. they think about the meaning of this installation. it's a memorial to mark the start of the 100th anniversary of the start of world war i. they started planting these poppies back in august. each one is handmade. they're all a little bit different. and each is, is there to mark a death from a british death in world war i. so when you stand there looking at all of these poppies you think about the people who died 100 years ago, fighting in world war i, it's incountribly moving.
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you may see from some of these pictures at one spot there's what they call the weeping window where you see the poppies flowing out of one of the windows from the tower of london and then another spot which is called the wave, there you see the window, and then another spot where you see a wave of poppies flowing into the moat. just incredibly moving and so touching to people in this country that there's actually been a movement very recently to keep this installation in longer than planned. the original idea was to completely remove it on wednesday, beginning on wednesday. each of these poppies or many of these poppies have been purchased. and the funds are going to military charities. the poppies will go to whomever has bought one. now, because so many people have been moved by this, they want it to stay longer. so the plans are changing all of the time and it sounds as if now this installation will be in place a little while longer at least for a couple of weeks and
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then possibly tour the country. >> you know it is extraordinary. i just have to say. i was in london very briefly last week and everybody is wearing the poppies on their lapels, as well. i've seen it here in the states. so it's clearly something that is moving people. they're not letting go of it. it would be great if they can keep that display. it is spectacular. i'll call you next time in lander and we'll have lunch. >> hopefully they're still here and we can see them together. it's just beautiful. >> kelly, thank you. in germany chancellor angela merkel attended a ceremony to remember the fall of the berlin wall 25 years ago today. she placed a rose at the section of the remaining wall to honor those who died trying to flee to the west. on november 9th, 1989, tom brokaw anchored "nbc nightly news" from berlin. >> a historic moment tonight, the berlin wall can no longer contain the east german people. good evening, live from the berlin wall on the most historic night in this wall's history.
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new assessments today on what exactly drove voters to the polls tuesday leaving not just the house and senate in gop hands but also plenty of states to republicans, including what some democrats consider the puzzling case of wisconsin's top executive as reflected in a new "wall street journal" article titled how scott walker keeps winning. walker appeared this morning on "meet the press." >> right off the november 2nd election of 2010 i told our new
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legislative republican majorities it's put up or shut up time. meaning if we're just a little bit less bad than the democrats were above us the voters would have every reason to throw us out. four years later here we sit. not only that i win for the third time we added to our majorities, and i think that's a lesson for our friends in washington. >> republicans control the majority of governorships. and state legislatures. joining me now michael steel former rnc chief maryland lieutenant governor and current msnbc analyst and former ohio governor ted strickland. governor strickland i'll reach out to you first here, sir. president obama won wisconsin in '08 and '12 and no republican has won wisconsin in a presidential election since 1984 you've scott walker who just won his third statewide election despite being the only governor in american history to survive a recall election just back in fwel. >> so how did that happen? >> well, i think we have two
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electorates. i think we have an electorate that comes out in presidential elections and an electorate that comes out in midterm elections and the democrats don't do well in those midterm elections. we need to recognize that fact and try to address it. but scott walker looked very strong. i would say that he was in a position at this point to become, if not the leading candidate, one of the certain -- certainly one of the leading candidates for the republican nomination for president. as a result of his showing in wisconsin. >> michael steel, do you agree with that? >> i do. and i have for some time. i mean from the very beginning going back to working on his campaign in 2009, and forward, this governor has had an ability, despite the hiccups and the rough start, to stay connected to the people in his state. and so he given a chance to, you know, do the thumbs up, thumbs down on his leadership, he's come out ahead. and i think that's something that the national party and the
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grassroots activists around the country are going to look at very closely as we now begin this presidential cycle. >> can you extrapolate these surprises, the republican statewide surprises in sort of a national perspective, michael? >> yeah, a little bit. and i agree with the governor. the democrats don't do well in off-year elections or midterms. and republicans don't do well in presidentials. so the reality for both parties is how do we reconcile that? how do we create the shift? >> is it all about getting out the vote? >> it's but it's not just about getting out the vote. you can turn out the vote but if the vote is down like in, you know, in various states, and across the country the turnout was low. it was lower than in a presidential and in the last midterms. it's not just about turning out the vote. the parties and particularly the candidates i believe have to have a message. the republicans got through this election without telling the american people what their
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leadership would look like come 2015. they're now going to have to reconcile that if they want to hold the senate going into 2016. and build upon the opportunity for scott walker or rand paul or other potential nominee to be successful in 2016. >> "the washington post" has an article that says the more serious problem for democrats is the drubbing they've taken in the states the breeding ground for future national talent and for policy experimentation. the republicans have unified control. the government -- the governorships, the legislature in 23 state, are democrats hurting themselves by potentially not going their bench? >> well, i think democrats have been outmaneuvered by our republican brothers and sisters. i'll admit that. i think the difference between the presidential national elections and the midterm elections is when we have a national message, when we have a presidential candidate going to this country with a national
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message, we win. because i do believe most of the people in this country, majority of people in this country, believe that the democratic economic and social message is the one that they embrace. but we didn't have that in this midterm. we didn't have a unified economic message certainly. and people just simply did not feel inspired to come out and vote for us. until we have that kind of bold, unified economic message, i don't think we're going to do well in midterms. >> governor, if you look ahead to 2016, if hillary clinton does not win, does that leave democrats with few options? >> well, i think we've got -- no. we've got joe biden. we've got governor o'malley. we've got several candidates that could potentially become president. of course, as an individual, i am, and have been, and will continue to be, a strong advocate for secretary clinton. but i don't think our bench is
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all that thin. and i do believe that unlike the republican party, we do not have the extremes within our potential political leadership like they have. and i think that eventually could be a real problem for the republicanss going forward. >> so, chairman steele, the point's been made that recent years your parties have had trouble making gains in the presidential election. how does the gop take the successes from midterms to the national elections? >> i think a lot of what you saw here. a stronger vetting of republican candidates. they've got a shortened system for the primaries. so, it's more condensed and more concentrated. at the end of the day, no matter how you do the process and the party's all about the process, i'm about the people. i'm about what people are hearing and thinking and feeling about our message, our candidates, and how that translates. and i think that, you know, i
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agree with the governor, there's always, you know, the outlyer, potentially, that could get in the way of things. but i think when you look at scott walker, rand paul, you look at governor kasich, mike pence just the republican governors alone our bench is deep and substantive on a host of issues that i think are going to translate very well for the american people when we start this process. >> i want to throw two names at you because last sunday you said michael that you think rand paul is a republican front-runner and i want to as to the chore us jeb bush as former president george w. bush said he's 50/50 sure his brother is going to run. your thoughts on both of them? >> well, i do, i think rand paul right now as i've put it, the "time" magazine had him as the most interesting politician in america. i think he's the most dangerous. because he has the ability based on how he's developing his strategy to pull from both the democrat center and even a
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little bit to the left as well as the gop. jeb bush is a game changer. he will change the dynamic immediately on the ground, across the country, i think there's a great anticipation of his getting into the race. and that will make this thing even more exciting, because that conversation between a chris christie should he decide to get in, a rand paul, a jeb bush, and some of the other names i've mentioned i think will be very healthy for the party and important for the country. >> governor you say you've thrown your support behind hillary clinton. who is it from the republican side that gives you the most angst going up against her if she's your candidate? >> well, i really believe that jeb bush would present a real challenge, simply because he has the backing, i believe, of the establishment, and he has access to the resources, the money. but as mr. steele has said there, rand paul is an interesting guy. i think he has the potential to
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really appeal to libertarian streak that is scattered throughout the political perspective in our country. so, you know, we don't know who it's going to be. but i believe, whichever candidate, whichever party, comes forth with a strong, positive economic message, saying we're going to do bold things. we're going to rebuild the country, we're not going to be timid in what we're trying to do for the american people, that's the party that will win the presidency and control the future. >> all right. former governor ted strickland, former rnc chair michael steele we're going to let it stop right there then. that's great. you guys agree. thank you. rich baby poor baby income inequality adds up to meal time trouble for tiny tots. the dollars and cents of feeding babies. also talk to kill the kids of isis how are the militants getting their young raw recruits? ♪
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new research is shedding light on the differences between what poor babies and rich babies eat and it has a lot to do with the economic and academic background of the parents. that's according to a study done by researchers at the university buffalo school of medicine and medical scientists. according to "the washington post" diets high in sugar and fat were found to be associated with less educated mothers in poorer households while diets that more closely followed infant feeding guidelines were linked to higher education and bigger bank accounts. joining me the writer of that piece roberta ferdman. during the commercial break you said in totality it depends more on academics, education, even more so than income. >> right. so the correlation was strongest between maternal education, which is suggestive of really parental education. more generally than it was with income of the family of the household. what that means is that it doesn't mean that there's causality. doesn't mean because they're
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uneducated their babies are not eating well or they're not feeding their babies properly. it probably means that something's very modifiable here. these parents are not educated. they don't under -- they're not educated in the way of understanding, in a way that helps them understand the consequences of feeding their baby diets that are high in fat. diets that are high in sugar. and the consequences can last a lifetime. >> oh, they absolutely can. >> this study, it makes absolute common sense. are there those who look at the study and say oh, there are things about it i don't agree with? any discrepancies? >> well, what do you mean by discrepancies? >> any scientists or different groups marketing groups advertising groups who says no no no it's not necessarily just about how educated somebody is it's people's individual choices and -- >> owe tensionly there are a lot of large companies that sell something like baby formula for instance. and there's a lot of disagreement about whether or not parents should be introducing baby formula after they stop feeding of breast-feeding their children.
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there's a bit of disagreement. some doctors, including dr. wen, believe that did dr. wen is the leading author of this study and researcher, he believes that parents should be introducing vegetables and fruits, baby air is yells and some bits of -- some meats to their babies but not baby formula. >> yeah. talk about the kinds of things that those that were in the lower income and lower education communities were feeding their kids. pretty surprising. >> yeah, yeah in some instances it's very surprising. in some instances they were found to be feeding candy and ice cream and french fries. it doesn't mean they're feeding them these things regularly. but the fact that they're feeding them these things at all is very troubling. they should not be eating these sorts of foods, and -- >> well, because explain what they found because of this. i mean it leads to ee posety, any number of problems, right? >> dr. wen looked at the diet, and between those two time periods he already saw weight gain. but then this same data that he
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used was looked at six years later when these babies were six years old and the same babies who are eating, who are being fed foods like this were shorter and much more obese than the other babies. >> literally stunted growth. >> that's the exact term i would use. stunted growth and abnormal weight gain. >> it is extraordinary. and anyone suggest what to do with these findings? >> well, this is suggestive of something that happens more generally. it's not just the babies who are eating poorly. it's the parents and families. there's something known that's regularly called food inequality and it's been growing. there is a study conducted in august that found between 1999 and 2010 basically the gap between what the rich and poor were eating was growing. that's especially troubling because what we're eating is getting better. that's happening for the rich and the poor being left behind. what we can take away from this or what we should take away from
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this is it's a matter of education. a matter of helping these parents understand what you feed your baby has a huge effect on what they look like six years later, but also what they eat for the rest of their lives. few develop taste preferences you can develop taste preferences the first two years of a baby's life. and even during pregnancy. so it's pretty troubling i mean, but it's modifiable. >> well that's good to know because it is otherwise a pretty bad domino effect. roberto ferdman thank you very much for the discussion. up next, they're little isis warriors. how islamic state is stealing the wonder years of youth for a lifetime terror. n car stereo] ♪don't stop now come on mony♪ ♪come on yeah ♪i say yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪'cause you make me feel like a pony♪ ♪so good ♪like your pony ♪so good ♪ride the pony the sentra, with bose audio and nissanconnect technology.
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city after the burning deaths of 43 college students. protesters accuse the government of slow response to the disappearance of those students back in september. police in milwaukee are appealing for the public to solve the murder of a 5-year-old girl. she was shot while sitting in her father's lap when their home was sprayed with bullets. her family says the girl's heart had been donated to a sick child. that nurse who successfully denied new injury a ses strict ebola quarantine is planning to move from her home state of maine after tomorrow when the 21-day incubation period ends. kaci hick okay's boyfriend said they need to get their lives back in trap. and the san francisco zoo is mourning the death of a gorilla. the zoo is investigating and reviewing procedures. those are your fast five headlines. targeting the top today u.s. officials are investigating whether airstrikes in iraq on friday took out a gathering of isis commanders possibly including abubakar al bag datty.
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the air strikes destroyed a convoy of ten armed trucks outside of mosul in iraq. a new report shows the shocking measures isis is taking to ensure its longevity they're child soldiers indoctrinated in violent jihad trained on weapons, military tactics and sharia law and baptism by blood forced to see the wounded and dead right on the front lines to harden them for battle. joining me now is the author of that article. cassandra quite a terrifying portrait that you pay play rather of the training of these children what they're going through. what happens in these camps? >> it's kind of a dual track for the kids that enter these camps. it starts off with really, really intensive education. they're drilled on koranic verses and it's a really strong religious indoctrinization. then it switches to the
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militarization. they're taught to assemble weapons, use ak-47s. they're taught how to behead by using dolls for practice. after they undergo that training it normally takes about two weeks or a month at most then they're taken to the front line where they accompany fighters watch them and learn there. >> how young are these children and where do they come from? >> it is from all over really. the u.n. has said that isis is recruiting children as young as ten in parts of syria. elsewhere in iraq they've seen evidence and we've heard evidence of children between the ages of 12 and 13 who are getting recruited to attend these camps. they're coming from iraq, they're coming from syria, but they're also coming with their fathers from parts of europe. so we've heard about child fighters from countries like france, britain, beyond syria and iraq. it's really anywhere that fighters are coming to fight for isis their kids are ending up in these camps. >> it's extraordinary. i know there are reports of some of them fighting on the front lines and some of them being
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used as human shields, right? >> mm-hmm. we -- they're being used as human shields. they're at the front lines. they're ferrying ammunition to fighters. their blood is being used for transfusions for wounded fighters. in some cases they're acting as suicide bombers. we know about children as young as 11 being used as suicide bombers. >> these kids coming with their fathers you said some of them from western parts of europe, or even in the u.s. germany, france and the like how are they getting to the camps? >> they're coming with their families and with their fathers. some of their fathers have gone ahead, and then sent for their wives and children you know. isis says they've built an islamic state and every state needs families, and to form a society. so some of the kids are being sent for by their fathers but others just slipped through much in the same way their dads did. they came in and accompanied their dads through the training and later to the front lines. >> we saw the widespread use of child soldiers in some of the
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african civil wars but how unique is isis' among islamist militant groups? >> well, it's important to know that it's not just isis who's using children in syria and iraq. we know that many of the other armed groups in syria, specifically, are also using child soldiers. what sets isis apart from those other groups and some of the conflicts you mentioned in africa is that isis is actively recruiting children and boasting about the use of children as soldiers. they're very proud of the fact that children are fighting alongside their older militants. and they're taking to social media to boast about it in a way that we haven't seen in previous conflicts. joseph kone and the lra there were plenty of children fighting for him but weren't held up as such an example in previous conflicts that's what's particularly worrying here. >> do you think this could be just a natural evolution of those extremist madrases that popped up. those were the schools that helped produce this current
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generation of fighters? >> i think it's really tough to say, alex. part of it might be an evolution of sorts in that both the madrassas in the '80s and nineties focused on intense and extremist rnlous ideology. the thing is what makes this different here is that it's not just ex3mist ideology these kids go into the camps, they are given an intense religious education but the education extends to militarization and that they are taught to fight they are being brainwashed and they're being bred to fight in a way that we didn't see in the madrassas in decades past. >> it's an extraordinary article and i'm glad i read it and thank you for talking with me about it. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> trouble at the ballot box. you're going to see where voting problems may have made a huge difference in the midterms and smoke signals a new poll could indicate trouble for those who want legal marijuana. s businesss with universities across the state. for better access to talent, cutting edge research,
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aiken in congress but you will be seeing him in a new reality tv show. the documentary series follows him during his unsuccessful campaign for a house seat. ten more states are considering doing likewise and among them california, where a vote could come in 2016. but a newly released gallup poll shows reports for legalization of marijuana falling. 58% approved a year ago now just a slim majority, 51% are okay with making pot legal. its greatest support comes from the east and western region of the country 57% approval. and in the fight over fracking it's back to the drawing board after voters passed only 4 of 11 local bans on the ballots last week. for texas democrats 2014 was supposed to be the beginning of a blue movement. instead on tuesday it was more of the same republicans holding a firm grip on state government with greg abbott overwhelmingly being elected governor. with the elections behind them democrats say low turnout and
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the state's voter i.d. law is what's to blame. joining me now ms. nbc contributor university of texas at austin professor, victoria nice to see you again. >> hi, alex. >> so you are right there in the heart of texas. was the voter i.d. law confusing for people? >> it was confusing. but i think more generally, it was just that apathy that we saw here in texas. i think there was apathy all around, alex. but texas has the dubious honor of having had the lowest turnout rate in the whole country. we had virtually no competitive races here in texas. texas if anything has become redder. so you add that to the confusion that there was because of the voter i.d. law, and it was a disastrous combination. >> yeah, what didn't you have an anecdote you can share about when you went to the polls about the voter i.d. law? what was that? >> oh, it was incredibly disturbing alex. so i go to the polls and the first person who checks you in is looking at your i.d. and i asked her hey, so have you had
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any problems with folks not being able to present their i.d. and she said, yes, there was one person this morning and i said oh, so you gave them a provisional ballot, right? and the poll worker looks at me and says, no, they can't vote. she didn't have any form of identification, she was an elderly lady, so she left. and i go but that's not right. and then the gentleman behind me goes, no, i heard on the radio you're supposed to give them a provisional ballot and people started talking. but the lady had already left and was not able to cast her ballot and that was just one instance. imagine how many hundreds of others there were across the state. it's unacceptable. >> she was supposed to get a provisional ballot. absolutely. that is really frustrating hear that getting turned away. according to "the new york times" at a post-election discussion last week, the chairman of the texas democratic party suggested that the voter i.d. law might be to blame for the decline. he implied democrats are more numerous among nonvoters than republicans.
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republicans are touting that their voter turnout efforts was 33% so voter i.d. is that the reason or were more republicans just motivated to turn out? >> it's both alex. the voter i.d. law had impediments to people voting. you know, you don't have the i.d., if you don't have the money to get the documents to get the i.d. but i also think it sparked that anger. like you know, why am i going to go vote? i know texas is already going to go red. why am i going to get out there and vote in the first place? and on the flip side the republicans knew, hey, let's give greg abbott the mandate that he needs to turn the state redder. because, in fact, we know that the state legislature is going to be a lot more conservative this year than in the previous term. as hard to believe as it is. so the republicans are really riding high and you know the democrats are going to have to keep building that ground game just because they lost they can't throw up their hands and say we quit. rome was not built in a day.
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>> yeah what can you say about the situation with wendy davis because in some ways she was the face of the turning of the tide the democrats in texas but she took quite a drubbing she lost by more than 20 points to greg an bolt. >> she sure did. the thing with the davis campaign is she was up against greg abbott who had been running for years. his whole time as attorney general he was in waiting to run for the governorship. also he had so much money. wendy davis was able to get a lot of money nationally. but it didn't compare to what greg abbott had. and finally, right now in this moment, in texas politics, the political cultural identity of the state is red. you have some very deep conservative pockets and this is where the state is trending. wendy davis put up a formidable fight but it was a tough one from the beginning. we all knew it. and she's just going to have to keep going forward. the bench is going to have to be built. it can't be abandoned. >> is there a line on immigration in that state? like if one party takes quicker initiative on reform does that
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party stand to gain substantially? >> you know, it's really interesting, alex. texas is one of the states that has been traditionally more quiet on immigration. we've never seen a big sb-1070 that arizona anti-immigration law but i do think that there's some rumblings in the republican party here in texas that they want to repeal the texas dream act. so ten years ago, rick perry signed the first-ever texas dream act where kids here in texas who are undocumented could go to go on to higher education and have that paid for. however, we know this now lieutenant governor dan patrick wants to repeal that. so i think we're going to see a fight resolving around immigration here in texas going forward. and that may be the rallying call for latinos in texas come the 2016 and say we've had enough. we can't allow this to happen. >> okay, professor victoria defrancesco societyo. >> thank you. >> a new book pays tribute to a
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veterans day is tuesday. a day when the nation pauses to honor those who served in america's armed services. the ghosts of hero street chronicles a unique group of mexican-american veterans who lived on the same street in the same small town. some making the ultimate sacrifice. it's a story that's not been told until now. the author carlos harrison joins me now. welcome to you. it looks like an incredible book. talk about the ghosts of hero streetment who were they? >> you hit it on the head. it was a story i felt needed to be told. it's a story that i think still resonates today. you had a block and a half-long stretch, 22 families sent more men -- because they were at that time -- off to fight in world
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war ii and korea than any other place in the country. out of all of they will -- and one family sent seven boys. another sent six. out of all those who went, eight died in key battles all over the planet. it was a story i felt we needed to share with the world. >> i looked at the numbers. 22 familieses. 57 kids came from those 22 families. it is extraordinary. i would like to play a clip of the president talking at normandy for the 70th anniversary of d-day. >> so many of us have in our families these men who were so young when they came here. they showed extraordinary courage and capacity and changed the world. then go back home and settle back down and didn't really make a fuss about it. >> is that your impression of the hero street soldiers? >> i think so. i think what's important to
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point out here, too, a story that resonates to this day, one of the reason these families lived on the same street is because they were shunned. they were mexicans. they came from another country to work on the railroad. they were invited. and they were forced to live in railroad boxcars with no electricity, no plumbing. they had to carve this little stretch of road they ended up living on out of the woods. yet when the war came they said, we are here to build a better life for our kids. this is our country and they were willing to do whatever they had to do. the ones who came home, they came home and went on quietly with their lives. it's amazing. honestly, in talking to some of the people i was lucky enough to get in touch with a pilot and a b bomb bar deer aboard one of the
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planes men died in every italy. when i learned what they went through day after day i had to question if i would have the courage to get up and do it day after day the families in this little town in illinois, how are they keeping the legacy alive? >> well, they have built a monument to the men. it's got brass release of each of the men who died. there is -- >> eight, right? >> there are eight who died out of all of oh them, yes. you know, it sounds like a low number out of the 57 sent. but that percentage was almost seven timeses the national average. for the number of people who went to fight from the street. so, they really did give. it's amazing. when i was working on the book, one thing that struck me was how
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people said to me, you know, my kids are still in the service. my brother served. >> it must make them glad you have written the book. we are glad you came to talk with us. >> thank you for having me. >> that's a wrap of the show. take care. have a good one. ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. cshe is the greatest thing ever. one little smile. one little laugh. honey bunny... (laughter) we would do anything for her. my name is kim bryant and my husband and i made a will on legalzoom. it was really easy to do. (baby noise...laughter) we created legalzoom to help you take care of the ones you love. go to today and complete your will in minutes. at we put the law on your side. you know....
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