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that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, gop roadblocks to immigration reform. republicans have refused to fix our broken immigration system for years. and president obama's done waiting. >> i'm going to do what i can do, through executive action. it's not going to be everything that needs to get done. and it will take time to put that in place. and in it the interim, the minute they pass a bill that addresses the problems with immigration reform, i will sign it and it supercedes whatever actions i take, and i'm encouraging them to do so. >> if congress decides to take action, great, but the president's going to do what he can on his own. and that's got republicans so mad, they're going after our
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next attorney general. this weekend president obama nominated federal prosecutor loretta lynch to succeed eric holder as attorney general. and just hours later, senators ted cruz and mike lee demanded that she say whether she approves of executive amnesty, by releasing, quote, a statement whether or not she believes the president's executive amnesty plans are constitutional and legal. and what if she does think his executive action is constitutional? will they block her nomination? is that what they're saying? and it's not the only attack we've seen on miss lynch. the conservative website claimed obama's nominee loretta lynch represented the clintons during white water. that would definitely be interesting. but see where it says
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correction? it's really a funny correction. quote, the loretta lynch identified earlier as the whitewater attorney was, in fact, a different attorney. yep, two completely different people named loretta lynch, and the one they wrote about isn't nominated for attorney general. they took the piece down, but it's just a taste of what's to come. we've seen republicans go on a six-year witch-hunt against attorney general eric holder. and it looks like they have already got their sights set on his successor. all because the president's doing his job. even if gop lawmakers aren't doing theirs. >> joining me maria theresa kumar and clarence page, thank you both for being here. >> thank you, reverend. >> maria, could republicans use immigration as an excuse to hold
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loretta lynch's nomination? >> i think the republicans are going to use any excuse to make sure everything that the president does fails. they've been doing it time and time again. he's been president now for over six years and they've made it very clear that as long as he fails, they feel they're succeeding. unfortunately it's at the cost of the american people and continuous gridlock. this past election showed that the folks -- that americans, they want their government to work. we'll give you control of congress, as long as you work with the administration. stop the gridlock. let's get something done. >> but, you know, clarence, the thing that's really, really crazy about republicans politicizing loretta lynch's nomination, is that the senate confirmed her twice to positions already. >> that's right. >> the daily beast wrote in the 2010, the senate approved lynch by voice vote. voice vote.
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meaning republicans didn't see her as controversial. i mean, she was approved by a voice vote in 2002. so why would her nomination be controversial this time, clarence, other than petty politics? >> well, because he's been nominated by president obama to another level and republicans -- the first time republicans have said, oh, that loretta lynch? we didn't know she was going to be that important. this is kind of the way it comes off. it's a bit comical. but there's an interesting dilemma that president obama has put congressional republicans into now, because they want eric holder out, but now that he has named -- president obama has named someone to replace him, suddenly we hear voices saying, let's not be so quick. let's let holder stay there for a while, hold off until the new majority of republicans comes into congress. that's the kind of game we're seeing played here, reverend. >> talking about the game,
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maria, you know, we've seen republicans use some really crazy language. i mean crazy, to talk about the president's executive action. i want to play some of what we've heard over the last week. >> it's like waving a red flag in front of a bull. i hope he won't do that, because i do think it poisons the well. >> when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. and he's going to burn himself. >> which is, in our mind, a nuclear threat. >> i think it would be like the president pulling the pin out of the hand grenade and throwing it in. >> it really will, as someone has said, be like throwing a hand grenade in the middle of congress. >> a hand grenade? poison? nuclear threat? is it the end of the world for republicans if we do something about immigration, maria? >> reverend, i encourage the president to grab the bull by its horns. i think mcconnell doesn't know
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his work very well. the matador usually wins. i think it's an opportunity for the president to provide a blueprint for what is possible. if you provide a path way to citizenship, for undocumented citizens, then you have congress having to do the real work. it's an option for the president to say, this is not acceptable. stop threatening me. that the will of the people want immigration to pass. and you're not flexing any muscle and doing your work. >> clarence, why is it so important to republicans to stop the president from doing something about immigration reform? why does it just seem to drive them battie? >> well, because this is not the highest item on their agenda. they want president obama to deal with issues like overseas trade and other issues that dwight democr divide democrats. immigration divides republicans. you have republicans that want to seal off the borders, as if
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that were possible, and you have other republicans who want to have a more sensible visa policy, et cetera, for a number of practical reasons, to bring in younger people to help us pay for social security and other programs like that. it's the kind of situation where president obama knows he's got this obstructionist congress to deal with, so he is putting a big item on his agenda forth right, immigration, and by saying he's going to take action by executive action. and then if congress wants to come forth and change it, then they can come back with a bill. in other words, he's forcing republicans to deal with it right now. and that takes a hot button issue and makes it even hotter as far as congressional republicans care right now. >> and it's so hot, maria, that there's talk among gop members of impeachment if he uses executive action.
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many of us feel they want to find any reason to try to impeach him, but they're directly saying, if he uses executive action in the immigration area, that they're going to move toward impeachment. listen to this. >> impeachment is indicting in the house and that's a possibility. but you still have to convict in the senate and that takes a 2/3 vote. but impeachment would be a consideration, yes, sir. >> impeachment would be a consideration. i mean, do you think they would impeach the president over acting on immigration, when they won't? >> well, i think that they will try to. but let's take a step back, reverend. the idea that the president wants to use executive action to provide a path way for legal status for immigrants, it's not the first time that's been done. in fact, president bush and president reagan provided that path way to 1.5 million immigrants. so it's not the first time. it was led by the republicans in the first place. i think what happens --
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>> that bears repeating. ronald reagan -- >> and bush. >> both of them. >> so this is not something that the president is acting arbitrary. he has history, he has precedent to say this is within his wheel house. now, what i think is happening, is that mitch mcconnell has to be very careful, because the folks that want to hijack the senate is ted cruz and mr. lee. so that at the end of the day they have a platform to run in 2016. but let's not forget, the only way to the white house in 2016 is through the latino and asian vote. so if you don't pass this, if you don't pass some immigration reform, you're not going to see the white house. >> but isn't that really politically very risky, if not almost suicidal, clarence? >> absolutely. >> -- to play with the immigration issue when you cannot win a national election if you lose the overwhelming part of the latino vote, which the president got over 70%, i believe in the last election.
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>> that's correct. and republican leaders, establishment republicans understand the long-term challenges that the party has in being too white, too non-hispanic, too hostile to the idea of letting more immigrants come in and at the same time, they are getting a lot of pressure from their base thinks we got too many immigrants here already, at least undocumented immigrants. and that's a big dividing issue for the republicans right now. they're not going to resolve it very soon. so they'd rather kick it down the road a little more. but president obama is not letting them do that. >> going to have to leave this there. maria theresa kumar and clarence page, we'll be following this very closely, both what they do with the attorney general nominee and with immigration. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you for covering it,
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reverend. thank you. still ahead, he's back, former president bush is making headlines talking about hillary, his brother jeb, and the war in iraq. >> do you have any regrets about that? >> well, no, i have regrets that -- >> i mean, do you ever feel that maybe it was the wrong decision? >> no, i think it was the right decision. >> plus, how will republicans defend their crusade to take health care away from millions of people? we'll talk to a man who says obama care literally saved his life. also, a plus-size controversy from calvin klein and their version of a regular woman. and angelina jolie opens up about a possible future in politics. it's all in "conversation nation." [singing to himself] "here she comes now sayin' mony mony".
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it's a big day for the affordable care act. the new health care website is up today. right now you can log on and compare insurance plans. open enrollment starts saturday. we remember the flawed first launch. but one year later, the reality is, the law is working well. yet republican leaders are still working to repeal it. it comes as the supreme court will rule on a lawsuit challenging obamacare subsidies. the government money used to keep costs low.
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over seven million americans could lose their ability to pay for insurance. david tedrow knows it's a life or death issue, literally. four years ago, at the age of 54, he was diagnosed with n-stage liver disease. now he's writing in "the washington post." without obamacare, i would have died. i'm scared the supreme court is going to gut the pot that sa-- t the part that saved me. quote, we could not afford the hundreds of thousands of dollars a liver transplant would have cost. and without insurance, i would have been dropped from the transplant list. i would have died. this isn't politics. it's real life. i hope the supreme court and those wanting to repeal the law
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think about this before they act. joining me now is david tedrow, who is now recovering from a liver transplant. first of all, david, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> let me ask you, first of all, and foremost, how are you feeling? >> i'm feeling very good. >> what made you want to speak out about this? >> well, i'm really worried about the people that come after me. i'm okay, i'm getting better, but there are a lot of other david tedrows out there who have not found out yet that they have non-alcoholic cirrhosis, that their livers are dying, and that they're going to need a transplant. and if it wasn't very the affordable care act, i would not have had the insurance that
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provided for my transplant. and they're not going to have it without it. >> now, what were you going through physically? what were you physically going through when the private insurance dropped you? >> well, at that point in time, i was highly ensef lotic, which means my brain was heavily influenced by pneumonia. i couldn't think. i couldn't remember things. i couldn't remember how to get out of a car. i couldn't answer a phone. i couldn't remember how to do simple things. i was very forgetful. so that was the mental part of it. i was very lethargic. i was in and out of the hospital. i was constantly bleeding. i was constantly getting transfusions. life was not good. i was dying. >> how did obamacare save your life, david? >> because it gave me the
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ability to get a transplant. without insurance, i would not have been listed. my listing status for a transplant would have gone away. with insurance, i was maintained on the transplant list, and as my condition worsenned. and miraculously, a liver became available, and right when i was at death's door, that happened, and i was able to be transplanted. >> wow. you know the law is a political football. man, the politicians want this law repealed. this is just in the last week. listen to this. >> the house, i'm sure, at some point next year will move to repeal obamacare. >> competition in the health care system -- >> now is the time to go after and do everything humanly possible to repeal obamacare.
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>> i know you're not a politician, or even that political, but what's your reaction when you hear stuff like that? >> well, it really saddens me, because obviously where are the -- what's happened to the moral compass in this country? we need to be concerned about people and their lives. and that's not happening. it doesn't seem to be important. what's important is the tax dollar and it's going to fund a war. it's not going to fund health. and that's just not -- i don't think that's what the founders of this country intended. >> and you, as one who lived this, and you said, and it moved me, at death's door. and you were able to get a transplant because you were on
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that list. this is bigger than partisan politics. we're talking about real americans that really need help that are not beggars, that are people that have lived solid lives. they just need that help. that's very true. not only are we stymied by the financial end of it, but there's also a real need for people to donate their livers and their lungs and their hearts and their pancreas, and their kidneys. people are dying every day because there are not enough donors. >> what kind of reaction, comments, have you seen as a result of your washington post piece? >> i have read the comments and they concern me. a lot of them have been really positive. a lot of them have really, really frightened me.
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again, it's back to, you know, where is the moral compass of this country? people have actually said i should have died. >> wow. >> that the money that went to save me should have been better spent. or it should have reduced their taxes. and i'm just shocked by that. >> if you could, david, meet president obama, what would you say to the president? >> i would thank him. i would thank him sincerely. >> what are your future plans? what is david going to do? >> david's going to recover. and when i'm fully recovered, i'll want to go back to work. i've still got some time left. and rejoin society. and make some money and pay for somebody else to have a liver transplant. >> well, david, you've really
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put a human face on this issue. it's not just a political issue. it is a moral issue. where is the moral compass, you say. david tedrow, thanks so much for your time, and we'll all be praying for your continued recovery and good health. >> thank you very much. >> we'll be right back. really? alka-seltzer plus night rushes relief to eight symptoms of a full blown cold including your stuffy nose. (breath of relief) oh, what a relief it is. thanks. anytime. to map their manufacturings at process with sticky notes and string, yeah, they were a little bit skeptical. what they do actually is rocket science. high tech components for aircraft and fighter jets. we're just their bankers, right? but financing from ge capital also comes with expertise from across ge. in this case, our top lean process engineers. so they showed us who does what, when, and where.
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this is al qaeda-plus. and i put in the book, they need to be defeated. >> years after invading iraq, the former president still insists it was the right thing to do, even as a majority of americans, 57% say it was a mistake. and is striking that the only regret he has is isis. a challenge facing president obama. but he failed to mention that it grew out of iraq. a group that sprang up after president bush ordered the 2003 invasion. he failed to mention that the leader of isis was released from american detention in 2004 under former president bush. joining me now, dana millbank of "the washington post" and wayne slater, senior political writer
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for the dallas morning news. also is the arthur of three books on karl rove. thank you both for being here. >> hi, reverend. >> so, dana, still no regrets from president bush about the iraq war? is this just him, or do a lot of republicans still feel that way too, dana? >> it's a little bit of each, reverend. i don't think george w. bush has many regrets about anything in life. i mean, he's not one of the more introw spective characters. we quizzed him often during his years in the white house and he was just stumped when people asked him to come up with something that he'd done wrong. so it's not surprising that he would take that position now. what he does have in common, with a lot of other conservatives, they're saying, ha-ha, we told you so, never should have pulled those troops out of iraq in the first place. never mind that it was, in fact,
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the bush administration that set that withdrawal in motion. so it's not terribly surprising, but sort of using the convenience of the moment to justify decisions made a dozen years ago. >> wayne, how important is it to president bush and his allies to rewrite the history of the iraq war? >> i think it's very, very important. even though what dana said a minute ago is absolutely right. he doesn't acknowledge making any significant mistakes, said the decision was the right decision. clearly this was a decision that american people in general don't like. we now find ourselves sending more military forces back into iraq. and so what you have is a situation where the father and the son, in this case, he's written a book about the father, where george bush has said, i think when he became president, i want to redeem the father.
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he didn't say it, but he meant it. and now he'd like to see a situation where maybe his little brother, jeb bush, could reach office and maybe redeem this iraq war. it's a problem. it's a stain on the legacy of the administration. george bush doesn't acknowledge it, but it's true. >> speaking of jeb, let me go to you, dana, on this. because the former president also talked about the chances his brother jeb will run for president in 2016. listen to this. >> you know, it's a lot of speculation about him. i occasionally fuel the speculation by saying that i hope he runs. i think he'd be a very good president. >> i think it's 50/50. he and i are very close. on the other hand, he's not here knocking on my door, you know, agonizing about the decision. >> a 50/50 chance, he says, dana. but let me ask you this, if jeb bush does decide to run, how much of the legacy of his brother in office, including the
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invasion of iraq -- >> right. >> -- how much will that rest on jeb and put a shadow over his complai campaign? >> that's the thing, in politics, the absence makes the heart grow fonder. so george w. bush is enjoying a bit of a rebirth in popularity right now. not because of anything done, it's because he's writing nice things about his dad and painting pictures and not leading efforts into war. so sort of the antagonism towards the whole bush brand, if you will, is down. now, jeb gets into the presidential race, all of that stuff comes roaring back, and he's got a real question there. i mean, the republicans in 2012 wanted to get nowhere near george w. bush. didn't even want him at the convention. so a little bit harder to do that if your kid brother is the nominee. so republicans are going to think twice about that. do they really want to
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relitigate the iraq war and guantanamo bay and all the other things we've been through over the last decade? >> along those lines, wayne, and no one knows the bushes more than you, jeb bush last year talked about his brother's legacy and whether there's voter fatigue over the name "bush." here's what he said. quote, i don't think there's any bush baggage at all. history will be kind to george w. bush, and he said, people will respect the resolve that my brother showed, both in defending the country and in the war in iraq. i mean, will it be a problem for jeb george w bush if he can't come to terms with the mistakes that his brother made, wayne? >> i think it will be. fundamentally, consider this, if jeb bush runs, backs the republican nominee, and hillary clinton is the democratic nominee, and we have dynasty
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versus dynasty, which of the dynasties in the american will, in the american opinion, which of those dynasties is in worse odor? the one that's worse is the bush legacy, because of the war, and because of that, it will be attached to jeb. and even if his older brother wants him to redeem the legacy by being elected and having america accept another bush, it's still going to be a problem. he's still a part of the family that took us to war. >> and defended it. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> thank you. coming up, is this a picture of a regular woman? we'll talk about calvin klein's controversial new ad campaign. and about angelina jolie, opening up about her possible life in politics. all that, plus president obama. should he call the gop's bluff on immigration? it's ahead in "conversation
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we're back with "conversation nation." joining us tonight, msnbc's krystal ball, "new york times" reporter josh barrel, and political strategist angela rye, thank you all for being here. should president obama's call the gop's bluff with an
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executive action on immigration? we mentioned this earlier in the show. speaker boehner said it would poison the well. and republicans are lining up with political threats, comparing it to waving a red flag in front of a bull. awe nuclear threat, like throwing a hand grenade in the middle of congress. should the president call speaker boehner's bluff, or will he blink? >> he should absolutely call their bluff. norm oren steen and thomas mann had a great thought. issue the executive action and delay the implementation of it and say, you have a window to enact the reform you want to enact, since you think, john boehner, it is something that should happen. and if they don't do it, then it goes into effect. that makes sense. one thing that's absurd, john boehner in his press conference talked about how he thinks immigration reform should happen. he is the one person standing between had actually happening. >> i don't really understand
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this threat. because there's no way that immigration reform and going to pass out of this congress. it's much less favorable than the last congress. it's more republicans and they just saw kanter go down in a primary over the immigration issue. there's a clear divide between the republican base. john boehner wants people to think he wants an immigration bill. so to say, oh, well, we don't play nice, they're not going to play nice either way. >> there's a difference in the vote in the primary and a general. isn't this politically risky for them? >> yes, but it was risky when they didn't act on this past year. we'll consider it. we'll consider it piecemeal. eric kanter wrote a memo saying we're not going to consider it.
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so he lost his election. now they still aren't going to do immigration, they're going to do border enforcement. which is different and it's not going to get latinos who are interested in immigration reform, on their side. >> if they're going to do border security, should the president call their bluff? >> yes, absolutely. in my view, he should have done it this summer, when he had originally planned to. but there's no reason to think this republican congress is going to act in any sort of meaningful way. they would have done it already, if they were going to. so if he's going to do something, he has to do it himself. >> what are the odds that you think he'll do it? >> i think it's close to 100%. if he backed off, he would disappoint hispanic voters and left-wing constituents in general. people who hate immigration reform already hate the president. if he decided to years ago he wasn't going to pursue this
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path -- >> they keep saying, if you know, if he does this, it's going to poison the well. the well is already poisoned. these are the same folks, who were saying, we're going to repeal obamacare. >> they i hahave a lot of wells. to the plus-size controversy on social media. it's about a calvin klein, size 10 model. calvin klein never labelled the model a plus size, but in the interview, the model calls herself, quote, a bigger girl, bigger than all that calvin klein has ever worked with. that, s sparked outrage. some saying the campaign was created to celebrate and cater to the needs of different women, and these images are intended to communicate that our new line is more inclusive and available in
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an extensive range of sizes. the company has a right to sell whatever they want. but now we have a conversation over body image for women. are we moving in the right direction because we're talking about it now? >> no. because i don't think we're talking about it in a way that's honest. she's not plus size. she's not a bigger girl. maybe she's a bigger model, but -- >> she's bigger than a size 0. >> right. i'm wondering if those are uk siz sizes. but you have a situation where women struggle with image, and so do men, but overwhelmingly women struggle with how they're perceived and how they look. and this woman talks about that she was struggling with all types of eating disorders. so to now see her as plus size, what about the bigger women -- >> so their offense is she's not really plus size? >> to me, it's a size -- i'm very interested to see what josh has to say.
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>> i'm definitely going to let him come in last on this. >> but i think the bigger issue is that -- >> pun intended. >> -- this incredibly beautiful, perfect looking woman is surrounded. she's in an industry where she's told and she's internalized the message that she's somehow bigger and has something to, in a way, apologize for. i do think it's encouraging that there has been a conversation sparked. we saw this with victoria's secret perfect body campaign, featuring a lot of size zero, one type of body women. and there was backlash. they attempted to correct it. so to me, it's a huge step forward. >> i don't think she was apologizing. she was describing herself as bigger, she's beautiful and not large. >> small. >> yes, but you have to put some of this on the consumer. people aspire to be thin, and
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both men's and women's clothing ad campaigns are full of people who are unattainably good looking and part of the message is, if you put these clothes on, it will move you -- >> but they called her plus size. >> part of the problem is with a lot of the beauty industry. they have actually created the negative self-image that women have because it helps them sell products. so we created the fact that you want your thighs to look thinner, so we'll sell you a product to make your thighs look thinner. so it's not just the consumer, we're being driven to these views -- >> last summer, there was a huge to-do on beyonce, because they air-brushed her to make her smaller than she was. they reinforce the negative ways in which women perceive themselves -- >> but how do you tell when it comes from the manufacturer, they build an ad campaign, and how do you tell when it's a
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company responding to consumer demand? >> they want to make money. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. more ahead, is angelina jolie ready for a career in politics? she's talking about it. and president obama rocks the dark purple silk shirt in china. but who wore it best? next. [singing to himself] "here she comes now sayin' mony mony". ["mony mony" by billy idol kicks in on car stereo] ♪don't stop now come on mony♪ ♪come on yeah ♪i say yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪yeah ♪'cause you make me feel like a pony♪ ♪so good ♪like your pony ♪so good ♪ride the pony the sentra, with bose audio and nissanconnect technology. spread your joy. nissan. innovation that excites.
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we're back with our panel,
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krystal, josh, and angela. is angelina jolie ready for politics? in a new interview with "vanity fair," she opened up the idea of pursuing a career in politics. saying, quote, when you, wo as a humanitarian, you are conscious that politics has to be considered, because if you really want to make an extreme change, then you have a responsibility. so josh, what do you think? can you see it happening? >> yeah, i mean, sure, a lot of actors have gone into politics, and i think people should come into politics from a wide variety of jobs. no reason acting shouldn't be on the list. some fall flat, some do well. there have been a lot of men. but shirley temple ran for congress. >> shirley temple black. >> right. but she lost. so i wonder if there's some interesting gender dynamic there where it's easier for men to
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make the jump than women. or maybe it's just a smaller sample size. >> angelina jolie has a great platform. even if you look at what happens in the political process, politicians and campaigns use celebrities because they're greater influence often times than the candidates themselves. >> they draw crowds and attention. >> exactly. i think you lose that influence over time. look at schwarzenegger. >> i think we need more people in politics, not less. so more power to her here. i think the gender dynamic is interesting. there's a fraught relationship in terms of beauty and politics. voters want candidates who are attractive, but not too attractive. so i think that's a challenge for a hollywood actress. >> and there's the issue, if you're pretty, whether you're smart. finally tonight, who wore it best? take a look at president obama in china today.
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rocking a dark purple shirt at the asia pacific economic cooperation summit. but the world's most powerful leaders donning unusual threads ain't nothing new. it began under president clinton. president bush followed suit in 2001, and now the president continues the time-honored tradition. so, who wore it best? >> i have to say, of those pictures, the one that i enjoy the most is definitely president bush. >> enjoy does not mean wore the best. [ laughter ] >> enjoy the most, could be making you crack up. >> that's exactly right. >> bill clinton is the only one who looks happy to be wearing it. so i have to give it to him on those grounds. >> well, you know, the president might have been a little nervous about this, in part because folks responded and said he kind of looked star trekkish, and your folks on twitter over the
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summer, when he pulled out that tan suit, it was not his sunday's best, rev, and he should never do it again. >> we have to go back to the tan suit? >> i was just saying, he might have been nervous. >> i thought we got over that. >> it's a nice color on him. i think it has a very attractive neckline. [ laughter ] >> i think he looks good. >> clean it up, krystal. >> we have one for you in the green room, rev. >> you do? >> yes. >> that's good. [ laughter ] >> now we're showing the star trek comparison. >> i don't see it. >> it's funny, though. >> i think it would be fun to make all of congress wear these. i wonder if they might get along better. >> might pass some legislation. >> don't count on it. thanks to the panel, krystal, josh, and angela, thank you for joining me. >> thank you. still ahead, the record of the woman who could be our next attorney general and a look at how far the country has come.
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>> passing the torch at the justice department. as i mentioned earlier over the weekend, president obama nominated loretta lynch. the federal prosecutor in brooklyn to become the next attorney general. >> it's pretty hard to be more qualified for this job than loretta. throughout her 30-year career she's distinguished herself as tough, as fair, an independent lawyer. maybe the only lawyer in america who battles mobsters and drug lords and terrorists and still has a reputation for being a charming people person. [ laughter ] >> ask anyone who has ever worked with, dealt with, or interacted with lynch, and they will tell you that she is fair, courageous, and serious when it comes to upholding the law. i've had dealings with her on a case in '97. she's not always did what we thought should have been done.
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but she's always operated with fairness and integrity. and always made us feel the law, and the protection of the american people, was paramount and would not be intimidated to do anything otherwise. i think the president made a good choice. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. the reckoning. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. before we get started tonight, let's clear something up. president obama has been right about what i believe is the central question of our time. peace and war. he was right about iraq when practically all the other democrats, i mean, the name-brand democrats were all wrong. and don't let them tell you otherwise.