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a amy, thank you for being with us. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. \s. thank for tunes in. tonight's lead, a collision course in washington. that's what we're seeing, because on just about every issue, every policy, every day republicans try to stand in president obama's way, and then they blame him for washington's dysfunction. it seems too far-fetched to be true, but just listen to senator mitch mcconnell today. >> the actions of the next few weeks would help set a positive tone not work of the next congress, a tone that will depend largely on the administration's willness to send a -- >> senator mcconnell is accusing the president of setting a bad tone? is that so? this from the man who made an
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art out of obstruction, and who said this in 2010. >> some have said it was indelicate of met to subject that our top political priority should be to deny president obama a second term. >> it wasn't indelicate of him to suggest their top priority was denies the president a second term? it was, to use mcconnell's own term, not setting a positive tone, and what about -- what about this line from 2011? >> if the president is willing to do what i and our members would do anyway, we're not going to say no. >> if the president does exactly what republicans want, they'll work with him. i wouldn't call that much of a compromise or a positive tone. they refuse to work with the president, so he's seg forced to
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do things on his own. he's working on an executive action on immigration reform. last night in china, he announced a bold new plan to tackle climate change. >> today i am proud that we can announce an historic agree. i commend president xi, his team and the chinese government for the commitment they are making to slow, peak and then reverse the course of china's carbon emissions. today i can also announce that the united states has set a new goal of reducing our net green did not house gas emissions by 26 to 28% below 2005 levels by the year 2025. this is an ambitious goal, but it is an achievable goal. >> the president making real problem, but what we -- what would we heard from the gop? >> that's why i think moving forward with the unilateral action on immigration he's
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planned would be a big mistake. as was last night's announcement to essentially give china a free pass on emoises while hurting middle-class families and struggling minors. >> a big mistake. to help the environment? a big mistakes to fix or broken immigration system? i don't think so. but it sure was a big mistake to blame the president for the nasty tone of today's politics. joining me now are congressman jim mcdermott, a democrat of washington, and jonathan capeheart. thank you both for being here. >> thanks. good to see should be. congress mast, mitch mcconnell sets it's he's doing that by dealing with the chinese and the iranians around the nuclear deal, and doing it a lot of
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places where he's taking on the load that the congress refuses to be involved in. all they do is snipe. they're sniping partly from the region that they come from, but they -- they spend six year trying to destroy him, and they're continuing -- they're going to do it right on until 2016. i will be very surprised if they allow anything. they'll always find an excuse why the president did the wrong thing. >> you know, jonathan, as mitch mcconnell, he wants a positive tone. that just means the president should agree with him? >> yes, from his perspective. the one thing you have to understand is that senator mcconnell and speaker boehner for that matter, have to deal with a caucus, especially senator mcconnell, dealing with a caucus that wants to take the fight to the president, that doesn't want to compromise with the president, that doesn't want to do anything with him, and so
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that's why we're seeing the president plotting out things that he can do to move things forward without congressional approval, or things that he can do by executive order or under executive authority, especially when it comes to climate change. the president has broad authority under the statute authorizing the epa to do a lot of the things he's been doing since the climate bill collapsed er8y in his term. >> you know, let's get down to the fact that the president is moving on since clearly the republicans and congress don't want to cooperate even on things that they have agreed with. rep politico reported today that we're about to see a, quote, climate on slaught, with president obama preparing a sweeping list of executive actions on the environment. this seems like a rational response to gridlock.
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how will republicans respond, do you think, congressman? >> well, i think they're going to reject it all. you know, earlier this fall, senator, secretary paulson, once the secretary of the treasury, came out to seattle saying he was for a carbon tax, because he realized that it was something that needed to be done. people on the right, center and left are dealing with climate change, but not the republican congress, because if they do, obama will look good -- and it won't be so easy. everything you look at has to be viewed in terms of the 2016 election. that's all they're thinking about. how will this play in 2016? they're not going to let him look good. in the past, jonathan, republicans used china as an execution not to move on with the environment, saying we couldn't act until china did as well. check out this video from climate desk.
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>> we can't do it alone as one nation. >> the problems are in china, in mexico, in india. >> they won't be engaging. >> this motion, what it does, it would prevent congress from passing any law with new mandates on greenhouse gas emissions unless both china and india have the same mandate. >> i mean, so now president obama has reached a deal with china standpoint like the congressman said, they'll disagree with anything. they reached a deal with china, and they want they wouldn't because china wouldn't. now that there's an agreement, do you think the republicans should be happy? >> they should be happy, but this is part of a continual republican play that we've seen where they demand something that the president do, he does it, and then they go against it. so, you know, it's have i important. leave aside the republicans,
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this deal is huge because other nations around the world have said they won't do anything with regards to climate change, in reducing greenhouse gas emissions under the united states and china both reduce their carbon emissions. china is the number one carbon emitter in the world. the united states has gotten decades worth of a headstart. the fact that the president and president xi jinping came out today and said we have an agreement and we're going to do these big cuts in greenhouse gas emissions, that is a huge success for the admiration, a huge success for the united states and the world, and the fact that the republican majority on capitol hill is all right pooh-poohing it is just of the same, but also distressing. i have to bring up immigration before we go,
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congressman. because it's been 503 days since the senate passed immigration reform, and speaker boehner won't even let you and your fellow members take a vote. isn't that the real problem? washington, not the president's tone? >> yes, it is the problem of speak boehner. he wants to remain a speaker. he thinks if he goes to nancy pelosi and says i'll give you 120 votes, can you give me 100 votes, it would pass, but he's afraid that when they have the election this week, he would no longer be speaker of the house. he is really only holding on to his own private power base at the expense of thousands of immigrants who should be get a better dealing in this country than they are? >> congressman jim mcdermott and jonathan capeheart, thank you both for your time tonight. coming up, should police be allowed to seize your property even if you're not found guilty of a crime?
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it's already happening all across america. also, disturbing video, u.s. sailors brutally attacked in turkey. why did it happen? and how will the criminals be brought to justice? also reaction to that dramatic rescue at one world trade center, 69 stories above the ground. and what exactly was kim kardashian trying to do today with this photo? it's in conversation nation. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts?
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developing news out of the turkey tonight where u.s. sailors were assaulted by a turkish nationalist. video of this disturbing incident was posted online, showing three sailors being verbally and physically attacked by the angry mob. the sailors were in istanbul where they were approached by about 20 turks in civilian clothes. and now -- -- we want you to get
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out of our land. [ chanting ] enchs those are plastic bags and red paint being thrown at them. the sailors managed to escape and get back to their ship without injuries. we're told that members of the turkish union which took responsibility for the attack are being questioned at police headquarters. joining me now is nbc chief pentagon correspondent jim mcle she was can miklaszewski. what can you tell us tonight? >> first of all, this had to be terrifying for the three young enlisted sailors off the america destroyer "ross."
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they were on shore leave when, as we saw in that video, they are accosted, physically assaulted, fortunately not seriously, no punches thrown. they were not injured. but once they made it back to their ship, the "ross" suspended any other shore leaves before they leave that port in istanbul tomorrow. now, the state department, the navy having talking to turkish government and security officials. as you want 11 are currently being questioned. it's obvious their faces westbound on camera. they're a well-known group. it will. one would expect, anywhere, that turkey would take some criminal action against these individuals. what the navy and the pentagon is saying about those sailors, however, that they responded by the book. they didn't get provocative. they didn't strike back. when they had their opportunity,
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they fled. you said it's a well-known group. what can you tell us? >> all we know is even though those sailors were not in uniform. that's standard operating procedure arounded world when any u.s. military service member goes on leave overseas, they don't wear their uniforms. otherwise, as you can well imagine, they could become a target. this group, the turkish student union, is a far right-wing anti-turkish government radical group and organization. they called the sailors murderers and said "yankee, go home." so obviously there's no clear connection to any terrorist group fighting in syria or iraq, but clearly not only are they anti-turkish government, but anti-american as well. >> before we go, i want your take on the navy s.e.a.l. who claims that he shot osama bin
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laden, breaking his silence last night. here it is. >> standing two feet in front of me with his hands on his wife, was a face i had seen thousands of times. my first thought was we got him, we got him, we just ended the war. i'm still trying to figure out if it's the best thing i've ever done or the worst thing i've ever done. what's the reaction? >> the reaction from the pentagon, and from the navy s.e.a.l. and special forces community is one of major disappointment.
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there were some details about the wray, but moth of those have already been out, where in terms of in his book, he in fact according did release some classified information. the book that he wrote was not presented to government censors beforehand. the justice department has a criminal investigation to determine if this improperly revealed classified information. nobody expects a prosecution of a s.e.a.l. who laid his life on the line to kilosama bin laden, but they're going through the emotions anyway. but the s.e.a.l. community, the silent service, the quiet professionals, they never talk about their exploits and their achievements publicly for any kind of financial gain or personal are personal notoriety.
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all those people around them, including their families. >> for the record, the tape we showed was not o'neal. that was another s.e.a.l. >> oh, okay. i thought you had shown the o'neal tape. >> that is o'neal on the tape, but who you were referring to was the other guy that was -- >> matheson and then o'neal on the tape. >> right. jim miklaszewski, thank you very much for being on the show tonight. >> okay. coming up, they can take your cash and belongings without even charging you with a crime. it's legal, and you won't believe where it's happening. and bill clinton talks tv on "house of cards" scandal and getting away with murder. stay with us. ok, if you're up there, i could use some help.
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should the government be
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allowed to seize your cash and belongings, even your home, without arrested you? sometimes without even charging you with a crime? it's called civil asset forfeiture s it lets authorities seize property they suspect if linked to a crime, even if they don't have proof. a new five-part seesies in "the washington post" reveals how the practice among police has exploded in recent years. the polls obtain dash-cam video showing what it looks like in practice. there's nothing. would it be okay if i did a quick search of vehicle to make sure there's nothing in there. >> for what reason? >> just part of what we do out
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here. >> have to get to the u.s. bank before 5:00 to find out how much courage sill is in there, but there's five stacks you are letting go. >> chalk it up to experience and go about your business. >> it raises big questions and has sparked a civil rights lawsuit. the post highlights another kay in virginia where please seized over $17,000 in cash from mandrell stewart, money he was planning to invest in his barbecue restaurant. >> one night in august 2012 when stewart and a good friend head to do d.c. to buy equipment and supplies for the sdraunt in cash. >> we got pulled over in fairfax. the officer said my window tint was too dark. >> proves to me his had already purchased something that maybe you were gig to go buy -- >> i still -- >> got to -- something, maybe.
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>> i don't do drugs, man. >> mr. stewart eventually won a case forcing police to return the money. the post reports there have been over 61,000 cash seeshies since 9/11, totalling over $2.5 billion. now, of course authorities should have every tool at that i disposal to go after criminals, but they need to respect due process. and our constitutional rights as citizens. >> joining mess is the reporter who headed up the investigative team behind the five-part series, and mark clacken, a former nypd officer and now director of the black law enforcement alliance. thank you both for being here. robert, you did some amazing reporting here.
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how is it legal -- >> it's legal until very old laws that were enhanced in the 1980s to fight the war on drugs, and it lets police, if they have a suspicion that the money or a car or other property is tied to a crime to take your property or money, and it puts the onus on you to prove it wasn't related to criminal activity. >> mark, you know in a seminar, he described the speed as goodie. listen to this. >> we always try to get every once in a while maybe a good car. there was a stake outat a bar, and this guy drives up in a 2008 mercedes, brand new, just so beautiful. the cops were undercover and it was like, ah, and he gets out, just reeking of alcohol. they're like, my goodness, we can hardly wait.
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that's just one of the little goodies we got. >> unbelievable. >> is that now what some police view this tactic as a way to get goodies, mark? if you were bounty hunters, profit policing is the way to go, and it really sets up a climate that is ripe for corruption, and severe abuse, especially when you don't have -- robert give viewers some sense of the scope of this you while you were doing -- of what they do with this law? >> well, i can say this for starters, my partners like mike sala, and some of the others, none of us could believe that
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this was really unfolding the way we were finding. and, the scope is pretty much in every corner of the country. it's small, officers -- small police department. it's sheriff offices, state troopers, all participate, and they do it with the xwri matt i mater. and it's a tool that can be used for making all of us safer, but it's clear, the evidence shows that some police have used it to go after cash in the name of fighting terror and their war on drugs. you know, mark, they have even seized some people's homes, even people that had nothing to
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do with an alleged crime. watch this story from philadelphia. >> chris showed us the holes in his door tonight where philadelphia law enforcement installed a padlock in may. law enforcement officials seized the northeast philadelphia home where he raised his kids. after his son was arrested for selling a small amount of drugs outside, law enforcement deemed the family home connected to crime. >> i mean, with civil asset forfeiture laws designed to do things like this? >> not at all. as a matter of fact, as sfa has indicated, the impetus was the increasing drug problems of the '80s and '90s, so you had these lower-level interdictions. what evolved into a situation where people are just throwing out fourth amendment
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protections, and of the profit tiering going on. you have a situation you havely where even the department of justice stands to make to% of profits. so until there is additional regulation, until the assets themselves are put into a general fund as opposed to going directly back to the acquiring agency, really the situation is prone for corruption and is guaranteed there is abuse widespread across the nation. >> the post mentions some of the ways that authorities have used the cash they seized, robert, your team did. a million went to a mobile command bus in one maryland county. $637 went to a coffee maker in the randall county sheriff's department in texas. $252 went to to hire a clown for a community relations event in -- i mean, sparkles the clown? a coffee maker? this is how the money gets used? >> well, the armored cars in the
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small towns that don't have meaningful crime problems, it's really important to note that a lot of this stuff is hidden in plain sight, because the data has not been accessible. working with our data guy, steven rich, we were literally able to get hundreds of thousands data points. 43,000 records on spending. it's only that way that you can geb hind the scene. when you do get be4i7bd the scenes, you realize a lot of police departments have come to rely on this money to balance the budget and to buy the extras. >> all right. robert o'hara jr. and mark classen, thank you for your time tonight. >> obviously we will follow this story. >> thank you. coming up, they're back! and picking up right where they left off. got to wonder if it's too late for compromise. plus did you know bill clinton was a "house of cards"
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burns, and msnbc abby huntsman. thank you for being here. thank you. we start with congress, congress coming back to washington, the president vowing to act on immigration, the environment he's ready to take executive action. so is it already too late for compromise? jim inhofe is now the -- he is a climate denier, so i think back in the 2012 campaign, mea dad send out a tweet, but it was call my crazy, but i believe in science. >> i actually remember that. i've always been a fan of her dad. nobody cares about the environment. the midterms are over.
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that is what this is all about. he's not going to get along with the gop. that's it. >> i glare. i think it's legacy time, the opposition in congress. i think there's no other option. you clearly see there's a member of congress, as abby said, that don't understand the impact. they think there's constant deniers, and the president is right, moving forward -- >> but if the concern of the president is his legacy is the concern of the gop to deny him a good legacy? >> i think it depends on which member you're talking about. you have members like mitch mcconnell who are talking about getting things done. some generally don't want anything good to happen to the president. so it depends. when it comes to science and the environment, it's a millennial issue. i think we'll look back -- and you believe that actually was a
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thing. in time that will have to evolve. >> i think what abby is saying makes a agreed point. there's that push toward the millenni millennial, and i think the republicans will stop to promote obama's legacy. he doesn't just doesn'tary more. >> it's about undermining the legacy? >> i totally agree. >> they undermine them every step of the way. >> it's just a continuous undermining of the president nonstop. >> the good news i think is he's going to get things done, whether they try to block it or not. >> that's what it's there for. next topic -- 'tis the season, but not for some students in maryland. the largest school district has voted to remove any mention of religious holidays from the school's calendar. it capes in response to the
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requests from the muslim community to give equal billing to the their own holy days. >> the school board basically stripped any decidingation of christmas, easter rosh hashanah and yom kippur. >> we not allowed to gives students the day off for a religious holiday. >> did they go too far? >> the christian and jewish holidays they still have off, but not acknowledges them. nobody cares about religion. they care about having off from school and from work. rev, i'm a hindu, i don't get off for my holidays, so if i have to seam i'm seema horrid oy wits, and it's 2:00 and i want to leave. i'm not joking. >> you speak for so many. >> that could be replayed in court. i know.
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rev likes to call any seema ire. >> but they weren't just looking at religion, but absences. so they based their decisions on the in umber of absences. so you look at some jewish holidays, kids are absent, so it wasn't taking favoritism to religion. >> but is there some islam-phobia here? >> i think they don't want to disrespect anybody. let's not celebrate any hole daze. >> but still days off -- >> a lot of it depends on where you live. if you have a population where the majority of the schools they ares muslim, i think they would have handled it much differently. if you have one student, it's more challenging. >> i thought we lived in where all men are created equal and everybody -- >> i send out kwanzaa cards. >> there you go. let's get to that. the next topic, mucher presidents are just like us? bill clinton was on "ellen" he
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revealed he's a big fan of some of the hottest political dramas like "scandal" and "house of cards" but not for the reason you think. >> it makes it fun to watch, is that i can't imagine that either the president, spacey, or the president's chief of staff on "scandal" could get away with murder. i wish i had known that, you know, think of all the opportunities. >> so many people to get rid of. >> so little time, so many people that have it coming, you know? >> that would make it so easy. >> crazy. >> get away with murder? i mean, abby, who knew he was a scandal or house of cards fan. >> first of all, this interview is probably my favorite ever with president clinton. she did a phenomenal job. itis a huge fan of "scandal" and "how to get away with murder."
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i'm thinking there is no way this possibly could happen, no way it could be a reality, and you think about bill clinton in the years, that actually happened. many of these represent his life. there's something intriguing -- >> how would you go there? >> i think there's something intriguing when people kill for ambition. i think it's something that we are attracted to and drawn to. when you commit murder under an an dix or anger, but when it's because of your ambition, that's kind of sexy. >> and we're obsessed with these shows. >> this is or guilty pleasure. >> so you think people are -- >> living -- living out their own fantasies. sex and crime, i mean, that -- >> i am saying that i often feel like killing people. i feel -- >> bring out the couch. >> i think everyone feels this
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way, especially -- >> how long have you felt this way? >> well, dr. rev, we'll talk about it later. everyone stay with me. when we come back, all i can say is this -- >> uh-oh. the am. new aleve pm the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are24/7branches? it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
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we're back now with our panel. our final topic tonight -- i thought i could get out of the show without talking about it. but kim kardashian is trending worldwide all day for this --
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yes, that's kim kardashian baring her backside on the cover of "paper" magazine. we've use a tv-friendly version. the magazine was trying to, quote, break the internet, but at the moment she at least owns a good chunk of it. she has over 25 million twitter followers. the magazine also released her hidden talent, the ability to balance a champagne glass. it seems he broke the internet and water coolers around the world today. what is the false nations -- >> no, i'm knoll doing it. i'm not talking about someone's tushie. >> i think it was a great marketing campaign. we all know "paper" i think it makes her more relevant. >> i didn't know "paper" until that. now i know.
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>> it's on national tv, and kim kardashian, her whole business is staying relevant, using her image. >> what do you do next? maybe don't tell me. >> what did she do first? >> she got her start from the sex tape. she owned that moment. and she has -- i don't know what her butt would be worth today, but j.lo started this whole butt movement. >> that's become a thing. and kim kardashian, she has really done everything she can. she braces what we love about her. he embraces her figure, and in today's world i think women like the fact she's kept her curve. i don't know what's all over the body, maybe oil or something? >> she's shined up, definitely. >> well, i'm sorry, you don't want to talk about tushies.
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you know how i don't talk about it. i don't even know how to say it, but her celebrity, how does she do it? >> she, like john was saying, she continually makes herself relevant. she keeps herself in the eye. she's a marketing genius. she surrounds herself with people who can promote her image, and in that sense, she does work hard. >> she works very hard. >> she is working. >> she works hard on that. she doesn't say a lot. >> doesn't it say something about the public? >> full disclosure, i watch the kardashians show. on my free time i watch it sometimes. she doesn't say a lot of interesting things. actually the other characters in the family are -- >> i like the drama. >> but i think she's beautiful. she is a flawless beautiful woman. >> one of the prettiest faces i have ever seen. we have to go. we'll have you back. >> we'll talk about it. >> thank you for your time tonight. we'll be right back.
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remembering one of the great heroes of the civil rights movement. john dahl was a legendary figure at the justice department as head of the civil rights division. he personally escorted james meredith to integrate ole miss. he had been living with him to guarantee his safety. when gavins was assassinated, he stepped into the street alone to defuse a standoff between protesters and police officers, standing with guns drawn. he called out "i'm from the justice department and anybody around here knows i stand for what's right." he let the prosecution of goodman shall waner and cheney, and with thurgood marshall, he went to the supreme court to defend the voting rights act. he described himself as a
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lincoln republican, but still served as the top lawyer for the commute -- and his side, a young hillary clinton. in 2012, he was awarded the medal of freedom. . >> in the words of john lewis, he gave civil rights workers a reason to not give up on those in power. i think it's fair to say i might not be here if it wasn't for his work. >> he passed away yesterday at the age of 92. as i've studied the civil rights movement and those before my time and have worked with those during my time, i try to tell young people that the movement was not just the character mattic figures that we read about that were out front, or that are out front now, but it took different people playing different roles. yes, thank god there was a martin luther king and roy
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wilkins, but there was a john door in the justice department. there were though students that no one ever knew their names. it took all kinds of people playing different roles, but had one firm commitment for justice that turned this nation in the right direction. that ought to be instructive to us today. we all can't play the cosmetic roles that make you known in celebrity, but we all can do something. john door had no problem working with the martin luther king juniors and the good man and shall westernen and cheney. he had no problem working with thurgood marshalls. he played his role. if you play your role for the greater good, the world will remember when you pass on, knowing that by your coming this way, you had changed things. it's not only blacks that form the civil rights movement. there were rights. there were all kinds of people.
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it was not about black and white. it was right and wrong. that had god for john door. thanks god for those that felt justice was a reason to live and give their lives for that. thanks for watching, i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. \s. battle of the planet. let's play "hardball." ♪ good evening. ite cris matt thew in washington. depends on your view of science, today is a landmark date in world history. human history. if you believe that man is hurting the future of life on this planet by the burning of fossil fuels, affecting climate and thereof the human, today is a day to remember in prize. president obama announced a historic deal with china to cap