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moves on. the vote was 219-206, three hours before government funding was set to expire. most house democrats led by minority leader nancy pelosi voted against the bill. with many in appear unrope over a provision that weakens financial reforms put in place in 2010. house members heading home for the holidays after the vote, leaving the bill in the hands of the senate. bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. an interesting dynamic where you had nancy pelosi and liberal democrats against the white house. talk a little about this. >> well, we really haven't seen that on something of this scale before, joy. this was a case where in this huge bill, which was negotiated by teams from each party, democrats and republicans working together over months. in many kays that was considered a victory. but in the last several days some things were added in to try to sweeten the deal.
and one of the provisions that really riled the liberal left, especially people like elizabeth warren and nancy pelosi had to do with a change to wall street reforms that came into being after the meltdown of 2008. this would allow some very big banks to do derivatives trading using the deposits they have insured by taxpayers. the shorthand, they say this could lead to potential bailouts by taxpayers if things go wrong. they were strongly, strongly against it. well, sure enough, the white house said the president would sign it and whipped it by making phone calls and sending his chief of staff here to try to smooth things over. they were behind closed doors, trying to work it out. and in the end, there were enough democrats who said, yes, to move this forward, but for nancy pelosi, it was a way to really make her presence known. in the final days of this congress, when she has been in the past speaker, clearly the democratic leader and in a
smaller majority of democrats in the next house, she was able to show the liberal wing of the party under her leadership can make something happen. now, they didn't win on this one, but they certainly put their sort of stamp on this bill. it was something we have not seen very often any daylight between nancy pelosi and president obama and his administration. >> very interesting. we're also hearing michigan congressman john dingell has been hospitalized. what can you tell us? >> reporter: he is 88 years old. the longest serving member of the house. not only of the current congress, but ever. he is the longest serving congressman. 59 years tomorrow marks his anniversary when he first came to the house. he tweeted a couple days ago that he took a spill. now his office has told us that he has been admitted to george washington hospital here in washington for observation. they say he is resting comfortably and he cast his last vote last night on this spending measure. so, we'll keep an eye on that and hope he is doing well. joy? >> hopefully he'll be doing
better. nbc's kelly o'donnell, thank you very much. the white house suspected the cromnibus compromise, including opposition nancy pelosi. let's bring in chris jansing. the war between the white house and the minority leader. how is the white house reacting to the ongoing anger we're hearing from democrats around the country to their taking what a lot of people would consider to be the wrong side on this bill? >> reporter: they're trying to smooth it over. they're pointing out this is, in their opinion, differences in tactics and not over principle. in fact, yesterday when the white house announced this, josh earnest said we don't like the provisions they're unhappy about either, including financial reform and campaign finance that had nancy pelosi getting her caucus together and saying, we need to take a stand. this is about who we are. the white house felt very firmly that going into next year, when the republicans will have that super majority, this was the
best compromise that they were going to get. that's clearly what it was. a compromise. and they are continuing to emphasize the things they think they did get that should make liberals and people who support, as they say, middle class families happy but clearly this was a win for the white house and harry reid. and as kelly just pointed out, even though not a win for nancy pelosi, she does feel as though her caucus and the majority of those democrats at least took a stand and sent a message. >> are the white house officials you're talking about expressing a concern it might get harder to have nancy pelosi to carry the considerable amount of water she carries on a continuous basis on initiatives? >> they've gone to great pains to say nice things about her. look, she's somebody who has delivered for this white house. and i think there's also a feeling she's not going to stop delivering on issues she cares about, isn't going to stop
pushing for those things because she has had this disagreement with the white house. so, they wouldn't say today whether or not there had been any phone calls between the president, either to nancy pelosi or elizabeth warren, but clearly the white house thinks this is something they can get passed and move forward on the issues they both agree. >> thank you very much nbc's chris jansing. appreciate it. have a great weekend. >> reporter: you too. coming up, we'll talk with congresswoman maxine waters, rallying votes against the bill last night on the hill. now to what many are saying could be a game-changing accusation against bill cosby. on thursday "vanity fair" published a editorial by beverly johnson. we spoke to the fashion icon about what she calls a devastating evening with cosby almost 30 years ago. >> i was totally helpless. i was on the verge of passing
out. i knew that, you know, i was going to be unconscious. >> reporter: beverly johnson is a groundbreaking figure rising to stardom as a supermodel in the 1970 says. now she's joining more than two dozen women who have publicly accused bill cosby of drugging and abusing them. >> i most certainly didn't think of my legacy as being the first african-american model to grace the cover of "vogue" and drugged by bill cosby. >> reporter: johnson says she thought she was auditioning for a part on "the cosby show" when she went to cosby's home in 1986. cosby insisted she drink cappuccino. >> i immediately felt something from the first sip. and it was almost like i didn't believe it, so i took another sip. and it wasn't long after that, that i knew i had been drugged. >> reporter: johnson says she felt the effects instantly. >> the room started to spin a little. and i was getting very woozy.
>> reporter: johnson says she thought that cosby expected her to submit to him, but managed to fight back. >> i just started to swear and curse and had a tirade. i wanted him to know that i knew he had drugged me. and it was -- i don't know. i just went on survival mode. >> reporter: she says he yanked her down the stairs and shoved her into a cab. >> i woke up the next day. i was totally disoriented and remembering exactly what happened was devastating and disappointing. >> reporter: she says she struggled over the decision to tell her story. >> at the time i felt that it would hurt my career. most certainly he was a very powerful man. >> reporter: even keeping the secret from loved ones, like her own daughter. >> i told her what would she tell her daughter, my granddaughter, if she ever came
to her and said that, hey, mom, i've been drugged, what would you do? and she said, mom, you're doing the right thing. i support you. i love you. yes, you're doing the right thing. >> reporter: after decades of silence, johnson decided now was the time to speak out. >> i want to stand with these women that have come out. i want to have a platform for one out of every six women that are sexually assaulted. >> reporter: an attorney for bill cosby had no comment on these latest allegations. for johnson, she says sharing her story isn't about bringing down cosby. it's about empowering other victims of abuse. >> this is bigger than bill cosby. this is about, you know, women and violence on women. this is -- this is about women finding their voice. i feel that cosby took my power that evening and that i took my power back.
>> wow. that was msnbc's tamar a. n hall. we'll talk to senior editor at ebony.com about how some say this gives growing credibility to the women who have come forward. things are going back to -- glitch essentially caused the entire london air space to shut down. only allowing for emergency landings. the systems have now been restored. even with the senate all but certain to pass the trillion dollar funding bill known in d.c. speak as the cromnibus, there's a battle brewing in washington for the sole of the democratic party with intriguing alliances. we'll talk with one of the lawmakers pushing back against the white house. plus, more on the new cosby accusation and whether it could be the final straw that brings down his iconic empire. first, a reid alert.
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and i think what the american people are looking for is some practical governments and the willingness to compromise. that's what this bill reflects. so, i'm glad it passed the house and i'm hopeful it will pass the senate. one of the things important in this legislation is that it allowed us the funding necessary to battle isil, to continue to support our men and women in uniform. we put a lot of burdens on our defense department and armed services over the last year. some of which were anticipated, some of which were not. and this gives our military as well as other agencies the ability to plan over the next year. with some stability, which brings me to the topic of this meeting here today. this bill also contains the
necessary funding to make progress on our fight against ebola, both at home and abroad. i know that after a frenzy of news reports for several weeks, ebola has faded from the headlines. on the other hand, although we have not seen an additional case here in the united states, i have always said that we have to make sure we're prepared here at home and we will not have defeated this disease until we have defeated it where it is most prevalent and that is in west africa. and so i'm going to be hearing about the progress that's made here in the united states in making sure that our hospitals are properly prepared, that our outstanding health workers are properly trained, that we have facilities that are regionally dispersed to accommodate the periodic ebola cases that we may continue to see in the united states until we eradicated the
disease in west africa. it also allows us to make progress on our efforts to develop a vaccine. i was at the nih a while back. some of you were with me to see the significant progress and promising pathways we're taking for the vaccine development. and this legislation allows us to continue with that progress. it also allows us to continue to do the work that's necessary in west africa. because of the remarkable response of our agencies, our military, our health workers, we have been able to take the lead in liberia and to start bending the curve so that we're on a pathway to defeating the disease in liberia. but we've still got a lot of work to do. >> president obama meeting with national security and public health teams talking about the response to ebola. the u.s. response overall.
but also making some remarks about that just passed in the house, cromnibus budget bill, the ominous must pass appropriations bill that includes provisions democrats were very unhappy about. i want to bring in a democrat who was whipping against that bill, maxine waters. congresswoman, thank you for being here. and the president in his remarks was focusing on good things in what he called a compromised bill and saying that overall, the legislation allows us to build on the economic and national progress over the last six years saying he's glad it passed the house and hopes it passes the senate. your thoughts on the president's support for the cromnibus? >> i think it's important to understand how much work has gone into reforming what had been happening in this country
prior to 2008. we had the dodd slais/frank ref. those reforms are designed to ensure that never again do we get in a situation where we bring this country to the brink of depression. we did that. we had a recession because of the recklessness of the reckless trading going on in the banks, because of the exotic products that were placed in mortgages, et cetera. many communities were literally destroyed because of this behavior. so, we made sure that we shut that down when we did the reforms. so, we have the lobbyists and many, most on the opposite side of the aisle, who have been trying to dismantle all of that reform work that we have done, to try to protect our consumers. so, i was surprised. i was very surprised when i discovered that the president was making calls to democratic
members, asking them to vote for a bill where the lobbists had placed in a measure that was written by citigroup that would allow them to do this ricky kind of derivative trading all over again and put our consumers at risk and have the government bail them out one more time. and so i went to work after that and organized members of our democratic caucus, called them to my office and 20 of us got together, divided up the list of all of the democrats in our caucus. we went to work and we started calling them and some of them had already been contacted by either jamie dimon or by the president of the united states, telling them to vote for the bill. >> and jamie dimon, four our viewers, is the ceo of jpmorgan chase. and, i mean, you said you were surprised to have the president and jamie dimon making calls
hopefully you will come back and tell us how this goes forward because you're going to obviously have more negotiations with the white house going forward. it will be interesting to see how this impacts it. thank you, ma'am. thanks very much. -p. >> there was an active whipping going on and jamie dimon and congresswoman waters and 20 other democrats. what do you make of this strange bedfellow we're seeing between white house leaders and wall street on this bill? >> we should not be surprised wall street pulled out all the stops to try to gut the financial reform.
remember, there are about 7,000 banks in the united states. only four of them, the four biggest on wall street, and jamie dimon's bank, jpmorgan chase, along with citigroup, share 90% of the derivatives trading in the united states. this wasn't a special provision for the banking industry, the financial industry, this was a special provision for the four biggest too big to fail banks who made billions in dollars and take home billions in bonuses. they like this. the way they make that money, one of the primary ways, is to have the taxpayers on the hook for the downside. that's what we saw in '08, which was the worst financial crash since 1929 and the worst economy since the great depression that tens of millions of americans are still suffering from today. and they have the gall to sneak in the dead of night this special interest provision that helps just the biggest banks on
wall street that crashed the global economy, to have taxpayers subsidize derivatives gambling. no surprise it was drafted by citigroup and jpmorgan's ceo was lobbying for it and twisted every arm they could in washington, d.c. to get what they wanted. >> and got it. very quickly, sir, your expectation in the senate just in viewing who is still there in this lame duck senate you expect it to pass. >> the problem is the senate is in an impossible position. at this point they either vote for the bill or the government runs out of money at 11:59 and there's a shutdown. so you have to vote for things you would never vote for. that's what wall street knows. that's why they put it in a must-pass bill. wall street gets its way in washington when its sweetheart deals are done in the back rooms and dark alleys and the public doesn't know.
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as the world continues to digest the latest accusations against bill cosby, there's even more fallout today. according to the houston kron dell, a performance scheduled for january 24th at houston's joan hall has been, quote, canceled by mutual agreement. it's just the latest in a series of performances to be canceled. while cosby has never been charged and continues to deny all allegations, the list of accusers continues to grow. so the question becomes, how long can this go on? let's first talk about beverly johnson. for those who don't know, why is in your opinion different, or is she different, a game-changer? >> i think she's a game-changer. one, due to her being a celebrity, a pioneer, a ground-breaking model. two, the way she framed her story. she really addressed every
criticism of her that you would have. why did it take so long? why didn't you say something sooner? why haven't we heard this before? when she mentioned specifically mike brown, eric garner and trayvon martin by name and said, look, i understand there's an attack on black men, but that is not what this is. in fact, that kept me from saying something earlier this year when people were speaking out. >> i want to read a little bit of that part, just the part you talked about. she says in her es sat for "vanfy fair" she says i reached the conclusion that the attack on african-american men have nothing at all to do with bill cosby. if anything, bill cosby is distinguished from the majority of black men in this country because he could depend on the powers that be for support and protection. the amount of infrastructure that had to be put in place f
true, because you're talking about 1968-69 all the way through the 2000s. how much infrastructure must have gone into or maybe none did. maybe this was something one person did on their own. is that part of the story, too? how many people must have known something, not women, but must have known something but did nothing? >> if, in fact, these allegations are true, the number of people who would have heard about this, you know, there couldn't have just been one person. there had to have been a lot of people involved keeping this quiet. that speaks to the power of celebrity, you the power of f fillfil phianthrapy. how many celebrities are we attached to in the way they mp attached to bill cosby. >> let's also about cosby, inc,
the estimated to be $400 million. there's a lot of things that go with it. it's not just the individual. what kind of stakes are we talking about in terms of the cosby, i guess, brand and empire? >> i think we're seeing the end of the empire. the nbc show has been shelved. the comedy shows he has booked are canceled again and again. the netflix special that was supposed to air and not airing now. i don't know if there's a space where people will be comfortable taking new work from bill cosby considering the accusations. what that means for the future of "the cosby show" dvd sales. >> there's a philanthropic piece to the empire. smithsonian received a large cache of artwork from the cosbies, also endowments. how are they then impacted by this? >> you know, i think that --
while we certainly don't take lightly these charges that that endowment was made many years ago so it's not necessarily depe dependent relationship with the cosby family. in terms of the smithsonian art exhibit, we'll be looking to see, what are the numbers for attendance? it's a fantastic collection of art. the cosbies have one of the most beautiful collections of african-american art in the world. i would imagine people would still want to see that because their art collection is not necessarily an endorsement of cosbies. >> thank you for being here. not a fun subject but always good to see you. >> thank you. >> from the halls of congress to the streets of new york. we'll have a report on how the outrage over police-related killings of unarmed black men continues to reverberate after the break. first, the fbi has opened an investigation into the hanging
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to evacuate. msnbc's amanda sukuma joins me now. there were protests in oakland this week also getting attention. tell me about that. >> reporter: we know there were officers in plain clothes walking among the crowd in oakland. that's when authorities say several in the crowd outed these police officers and confronted them about that. authorities say one person even pulled an officer aside from struck them in the back of the head. really the lasting image coming out of that protest is that the plain clothed officer pulled out his firearm and aimed it at the crowd in order to disperse the demonstration. it's worth noting one of the reasons people are gathering in demonstrations in the first place because of this strained relationship between police and communities they are to serve. in seeing police officers who are in plain clothes and trying to pretend to be a part of the protest for manymany exacerbati.
>> some are calling the first bill in congress wherein police report any deaths in custody to the department of justice. isn't that related to ferguson or tell us about it? >> this bill passed the house last year but it dove tails with everything we're seeing in ferguson and these calls for reform. this is crucial. people have been critical of how the justice department will be able to move forward with reforms if they don't even know exactly how many people are shot each year by police officers. so this is a crucial first step in accountability for advocates because now they can have this basis to building off of. they'll know how many people are shot and killed, how many people are affected and nationwide a statistic. we've had many advocacy groups try to count it on their own but this is flat and unofficial. now something lawmakers will be able to use as a variable to say, these are the issues we need to address first, here are the steps to back it up and
here's how we move forward. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. after the break, mothers who have lost their sons to police violence on healing and trilg to achieve justice. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours, but aleve can last 12 hours... and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? aleve, proven better on pain. which means it's timeson for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you need is a finely tuned... pen. get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment
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widespread protests are expected across the country tomorrow. earlier this week a group of mothers who lost family members at the hands of police officers met congress to demand action. among the group were the mothers of allen bluford who was shot and killed by a police officer in 2012 and oscar grant killed by a police officer in 2009. yesterday i spoke with those mothers about what they hope to police. >> i'll start with you. if you could tell me about the meeting the two of you and other parents who have lost parents in
police shootings, tell us about the meeting had you in washington. >> thank you, joy. yesterday we met with our congresswoman, barbara lee. we talked about our stories, what happened to our children. if he had on ayla pell camera, and that's a going thing right now, that we heard president obama talk about body cameras. the officer has a camera on and he turned it off as he proceeded to chase down my son. as my son tripped and fell, he stood over him and shot him down. he suffered post-traumatic stress disorder. i'm here today to talk to congress about the body cameras. there should be an allen bill.
i agree all officers should wear body cameras. if it turned off by the officer, they should have a mandatory jail sentence. i feel there's no justice in the courtroom but just as mothers, we use our voice and we can make change because, america, this system doesn't change. we won't grow and we must give our children back their future. >> wanda janson, many people do know oscar grant's name because of that tragedy. talk about what you would want to see changed in the way the criminal justice system deals with these kind of cases. there was a prosecution in your son's case. what do you think needs to
change in the way the system operates? >> one way the system changes is how they have the district attorney to prosecute the offic officer. >> i believe it's a conflict of interest to have the district attorney who works with the police daily to try to turn around and prosecute the officer. i believe an outside district attorney should come in or that family should be able to retain their own attorney to handle the case. another thing i think important to have is racial profiling looked at. my son when he was killed, the first sfsh who came in aggressive manner was using
racial epithets toward my son. and i believe he escalated the situation and as a result of him escalating the situation, my son lost his life. >> and it's so tragic to hear you recount these stories. there are moves from congress, you met with members from congress, did you get the sense -- i'll start with you, did you get the sense there would be some legislative change that will make a positive difference in cases like that happened to your son? do you get the sense something will be done? >> yes, do i. i feel that way because as we were telling our stories, as we were voicing our popinions, giving solutions, legislation even though they said they have followed up reports, they were
shocked and appalled to hear how we have been totally ignored. how the system failed us and the families. they see how heartfelt it is and how the epidemic -- i mean, it's all over and the lives are younger and younger and young men that's 12 years old with a toy gun, tamir rice, the 16-year-old, the guy in walmart, the 18-year-old, the 22-year-old. these are children and no one is perfect but they deserve a future. in america we have to stand up for our children and legislation has to stand up for us because they have a job. speaking with us and hearing our stories, they want to do the job now because they know we won't go away. we're going to stand outside the
white house, picket, march, rally the voters, doing whatever we can to change the laws. all lives matter. it's very important we have these forums, that we make change. this is not the '60s. this is 2014. we've come far but we have so far to go. >> that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you next week at 2 p.m. eastern. visit us online at thereidreport.msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next. hey, toure. >> i promise you everybody is here with us today. right now it's just you and me. we're going to have a great show. we'll talk about the cromnibus passing the psychology of torture with somebody who studied that. we'll talk about mark wahlberg's new film "the gambler" and talk to the director of that movie. and abby has a nice piece about christmas. >> it's coming up.
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