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believe that. the best we are hoping to get a three-week bill through the house to extend funding for the most important agency we have when it comes to national security. this is perhaps at most difficult moment in american history since 9/11. are republicans actually following the news about isis? there are four people suspected of possibly being in cahoots with isis taken into custody by the fbi. in new york virginia and north florida and questions about jihadi john the massed executioner we've been seeing for months in the beheading video. he is a 26-year-old london-raised college graduate who grew up in a mixed income london neighborhood and he loved the playstation and listening to teen pop and the simpsons and manchester united. and with so many questions, we ask questions and joining me a
story with buzz what isis really wants. and now the response to that story. graham, your first article on this was extraordinary and a must read for those who want to understand isis. people are stocked -- shocked to understand mohammed emwazi came from an education and experts say many terrorists are young, well-educate and middle class. have you found that middle classness in isis and why are we see ing that? >> i see it all of the time. if you look at the twitter feeds of jihadis it is not from people that are illiterate or uneducated. it is frequently people that have education at the college lefrl or beyond. i'm not shocked to find this person in particular has a background of prosperity in london. >> authorities have been on him
for sometime and now we have a name associated to him. mohammed emwazi how does that change the game? does that help authorities find this guy and potentially find other folks in his footsteps? >> we have a sense of when he might have arrived in syria and who he might have been. and it does help for us to have some guess about the network that he came from. and we might know who he was associating with and who has dropped off the map and if they have then it is pretty likely they're in syria right now with him. >> and someone with a foot hold in life why would he give that up to fight a group like isis. >> there is indication he was harassed by the police and the authorities in the u.k. but i wouldn't take too much from that. and not everybody harassed decides to go and behead a bunch of people. so clearly there is something motivating him and based on the things he's told us while cutting off the heads of americans and others that it has to do with the ideology that isis is pushing toward the world
which is an apocalyptic one and one we can't coexist with. >> and you talk about the ideology and you say the united states is comparing isis to al qaeda and sort of thinking them in the same way even though what they are doing and their brands of terrorism quite differently. explain. >> yes. so al qaeda was aiming toward the west. they wanted to perpetrate attacks on places like london madrid and new york and isis is trying to draw people like mr. emwazi into it because they want to create a full society and it wants to attack muslims nearby rather than the far energy. >> they want to create a full society but the part of your article that stood out to me and helped me understand what they are doing is when you talk about the -- the islamic state has an obligation to terrorize enemies and the callive may do that or they fall into a state of sin.
so in a deep ideology they can -- never rest and have peace and have a seat at the table of nations and that would be putting that above god or ala. >> yes. and many describe this caliphate as something specific, an ever expanding islamic state. and so if isis were to be offered as a seat at the u.n. and if they were to suppose that and accept fixed borders an the brotherhood of nations that would invalidate the rule. they would have to fight against him because it is the nature of this group that it must not accept anything as a peer institution, so joining the u.n. and we're bank absolutely not.
they must grow and fight. >> and this apocalyptic doomsday and this is driving toward the apocalypse and how this town is central and what they think will happen. >> the town of dabiq we wouldn't have heard of if this group didn't mention. it is mentioned in the saying of the prophet as a center of battle and isis is focused on that town as the one they are aiming for as a battle between the crusaders and islamic. they name their magazine after it and that gives an important part of how important the apocalypse is and how important it is. >> and does that give us tools in fighting isis because we know what they are doing next and what they expect to happen next? >> we should look at how thur propaganda is -- their propaganda is using this and
constantly saying they are expanding and getting to a battle of civilizations in dabiq, their propaganda requires a polarized world between islam and cruisaders and anything to show this is a battle also within islam is an important thing in terms of nullifying their propaganda. >> and part of what you talk about is their whole ideology is there could be nobody above allah and certainly not art. and we saw this horrific video of them destroying priceless, ancient artifacts, syrian artifacts. this is a huge loss in terms of art history. but ideologically say you worship this stuff and you can't worship anything other than allah. >> i'm surprised it took them so long to do this.
they are damaging shias and shrines and it is part of the heritage of iraq and the world. and i think by their own standards, they took quite a while to pound this into the dust and it is showing they are genocidal and for the next generation. >> and the biggest part is stopping people here at home and from u.k. to going over to syria and learning how to fight with isis. what more can we do to look out for signs, as toure was mentioning, this man from the u.d. didn't necessarily seem like the guy that would join isis and what can we do to potentially stop someone from going to do this. >> i'm sorry to give a depressing answer but there is very little we can do. there are so many people going over for different backgrounds. highly observant muslims tend not to go over there.
but you find people inspired by thing on the internet. you can't cut people off from the internet. so you have to watch for flights, as has been done people going to turkey or syria on one-way tickets. that is a sign. but unfortunately you can't stop the flow. >> and you talk about in the article, they are a islamic imperative to fight and join the caliphate and if we can cut that off then the imperative to cut that off will be good. it is a fascinating article. folks should rate it. gaeme wood thank you. and does john boehner have the votes to stop a homeland security shutdown. we'll talk about that as we roll on. it is friday, february 27th.
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breaking news police in missouri are updating us on the shooting rampage that left eight people dead including the killer and the shooter may have started by finding his mother dead in the home. >> one of them belonging to a couple was in the hospital and not home and therefore potentially escaping [ inaudible ]. >> no. >> sheriff, in the best of your ability, can you lay out [ inaudible question ]?
>> my officers received the call about 2:15 p.m. last night from a juvenile female of shots being fired in the tyrone area. my deputies responded. upon arrival at the address, found two deceased victims. a short time later i was notified again by phone we had another shooting a few miles away. one deceased and one injured victim there. we began working these scenes. we discovered a couple of other scenes with deceased victims. >> that injured person have you had a chance to talk to them? >> briefly last night. >> and what information did you get from them? >> not anything i'm willing to release now. >> can you tell us where the folks lived, which homes. >> the tyrone area. >> how were you able to find the other crime scenes?
did somebody leave you to -- lead you to them? >> we started checking family. >> sheriff, the associated press is reporting that the shooter came home and found his mother dead on the couch and then went on this rampage. can you confirm? >> no i can't. >> sheriff, does joseph aldridge have a past history and you know him well? >> i didn't know him personally. >> i mean does law enforcement know him. >> i know he has a minor criminal history. >> anything major? >> not that i recall. >> [ inaudible question ]. >> to the best of my knowledge, he's been through quite sometime. >> and how many weapons were used? >> just one. >> what kind? >> a handgun. >> have you determined what order this happened in yet? >> no, sir. >> is there any additional ammunition found from the shooters when you found the
handgun? >> i didn't respond to the scene but it is my understanding there was. >> how far away was that from tyrone? >> 15-20 miles. >> how is the surviving victim doing? >> as far as i know she's -- she's expected to be okay. >> and [ inaudible ] she was shot? >> no. >> are any of the victims children? >> no. >> and she led you to the suspect? >> we obtained part of our information from her. >> the victims that are not identified are they in the same family as the victims -- can you identify if they are? >> they are not. >> are they in a family themselves? >> you know i really don't want to get into that. i released the names of the victims that i can right now. we'll get the names of the victims later. >> you have witnesses to any of
these other than the girl that ran for help and the woman in the hospital? >> could you repeat that question? >> do you have any other witnesses? >> no. >> do you know anything about the relationship between the shooter and -- >> that is missouri police briefing us on a horrific shooting in rural, missouri leaving eight people dead. now we're going to break away and go into breaking politics news. if the president is faced with a choice of having the department of homeland security shut down or fund that department for a short-term the president is not going to allow the agency to shut down. >> yes, developing right now, and yes, believe it or not, this is still developing the fight to fund the agency that is arguably most essential to our safety. that is the department of homeland security. you just heard the white house's stance. the take from the hill is let's just say, not exactly crist --
crystal clear. >> the clock is ticking. in several hours, the department will be shut down or not. we hope not. get a grip mr. speaker. >> and here is where we are now. a work day's worth of time the witching hour the senate has passed a clean funding bill that could keep dhs through september and it will not be the last of the immigration bill. and now it is up to the house to do something. and the best for that is a three-week stop-gap deal to fund dhs. and if that does happen, it has to be kicked back. and there has to be an easier. luke russert? >> reporter: it would take
speaker boehner to take a vote which he is unlikely wanting to do that. within an hour they should put the three-week dhs extension bill on the floor and they should get into 218 votes. but they ran into some head winds here and we thought this bill would be passed this morning and they did what we call here the blue screen of death and they did a delay to make sure they have the majority number they need to get this pulled forward. and nancy pelosi told me she would not give house republicans cover on this and they want to see the funding for the rest of the fiscal year. but steny hoyer said they might examine that gep if it got close on the floor with 212 votes and needed a few more votes because
president obama said he doesn't want dhs to shut down and if this is the only way forward, it might be the only way forward. it will likely be funded or not. in three weeks, march 19th we could very well have the same conversation again and new american congress which is control of both chambers they have literally a month on keystone and two months now on the department of homeland security and it comes around immigration. and so they sayer single -- every single day we can talk about immigration and department of homeland security, this will go on for three more weeks. it is unclear how it figures itself out because house republicans, this vocal faction of the house gop congress they want to stand up to the president. they don't care the beating or the reputation they will take. and quite frankly it prohibits this new american congress
quote unquote, from doing anything else. and i would say if you are a jeb bush or scott walker and presidential nominees is this what you want your republican congress working on front and center as you are running your campaign as it moves in closer to 2016. so a lot of loose ends shall we say. >> and i'm sure this is exactly what the american people were hoping they were getting when they votes this new congress in in november. luke. thank you wech. we approve it. and john allen joining us from blockberg news. we'll get to that story. but first i have to get your take on the big story. what color, jonathan is that dress. it is very political as evidenced by the speaker of the house. #the house is blue and black. the senate is blocking security funding for overreach. so what color is the dress? blue and black or white and gold
or something else? >> it is the 21st century and we're on the cycle so color doesn't matter. >> i wasn't expecting that answer. >> that is so political. >> i personally see white and gold. >> we might be wrong but a majority of the american people agree with us and we are popular so there you go. i'm standing with our answer. and to the other story here the dhs funding, what on the world would want to make speaker boehner do this over in two weeks time. >> boehner doesn't want to talk about immigration as luke russert just suggested or said he doesn't want to talk about shutting down parts of the government and this has hurt them in the past and particularly with republicans, you have the cpac going on the
conservative political action conference and this is not helpful to the republican party and i think john boehner wants to make sure the government doesn't shut down as a result. but as luke said the rest of the agenda items, as the republican leaders say, have been completely put to the back burner and we'll see another three weeks of discussion of this rather than things they would like to be talking about. >> i would say, jeb bush he did stick to his guns on immigration. that was a tough crowd. i give him kudos. >> that was a tough crowd. >> he's had such a flip flip on that. and you did a good job explaining krystal, but explain to me how the white house gop is kicking this three week can down the hill. do they hate john boehner, what are they do? >> theresy word in yiddish about
you are so long you don't know how lost you are. you heard nancy pelosi and you heard from luke that steny hoyer is think being that and they want -- federal workers going to work and not getting paid it is against what they believe. and the idea they were going to bring down the bill is hard to take. most republicans put up 50 or 60 votes. this was a case of a threat from the democratic leaders' office that had nothing behind it. >> and i'll continue the yiddish theme, it looked like boehner had some [ inaudible ] shiddish behind this. >> oh, what does that mean. >> you could have figure out from the context.
jonathan knew what i was talking about. and so he has to do acrobats and stumps to placate the far right of the caucus and the conventional wisdom suggests if he doesn't do these things his job as speaker will be in peril. but is it true? is there any far right republican caucus that they have a leader in waiting that they can replace him or is this boehner panicking too much? >> at this point nobody can oust him but there is difficult for him to bring things to the floor that he doesn't have some support for. and he has to go through machinations or skull dogery and these offices are in constant communications with each other and the idea that boehner with blindsided by mcconnell seems ridiculous to me. they were trying to get the house to a place where they
wouldn't shut down the government. it looks like they have done that and it is looking in that direction. >> and we are like rolling our eyes and thinking dysfunction in d.c. but we are talking about the most important department at a time where it couldn't be more important. and as luke was saying more than anything this is about sticking it to the president. they are not thinking. they don't even care about the reputation here. but the reality is though 2016 is really just around the corner. you mentioned cpac and in 2016 reputation does matter. jonathan what is the long-term impact? will people see this as dysfunction in d.c. yet again or will you see the republican party struggling more because of actions like this? >> i think if this were september or october of 2016 it would remember. remember the government shutdown in two weeks in october of 2013 and that didn't prevent republicans from picking up seats in the house in 2014.
i don't think it helped them. they could have gotten more efforts out obama care shutdown but it is still early in the cycle to correct it. but the question is are the dynamics there to correct it. i think john boehner will struggle with this congress because nobody wants to stop digging in right now. >> jonathan allen, loving that black and blue tie. >> it is white and gold. >> up next. the biggest security implications of today's house shenanigans. >> and jonathan capehart answering the questions we've been answering since this ad on tv. who is allison?
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isis threat jihadi john. in the last block we reported on the move to keep homeland security from running out in just eight hours. but we have to have the political and security conversations together. in his recent foreign policy piece david roth cough does just that. if you are an obama admirer, you will see it as a reaffirmation of all of the reasons you do see it and if you don't, you will see it as everything you fear. and david roth cough is author of national insecurity. and start off by elaborateing on that. does it matter what the president poses it. comes out lens of whether you like him or not? >> that is the nature of the washington debate. whose side are you on and which team are you on and you stick with that and you don't move or
compromise and you've totally lost sight of the objective why people are sent to washington to get something done. i listen to the conversation you guyed had in last hour and i just want to -- i want to go smack somebody. what children. what kind of complete abrogation of the responsibilities of these people. are there any leaders left in washington? >> right. >> and the answer is leadership requires transcending the political and putting national interests first. it is not happening. it is not happening on the right, it is not happening on the left. >> agreed with that. >> and david you speak about transcendent leadership barack obama in 2007-2008 ran on a transcendent message that he would undo a reverse of what george bush did with our foreign policy and six years in and you mention this in your piece, six years in how well has he done in terms of that? >> well it is a mixed bag. he's tried to avoid getting involved in another big war.
the way did he it was leaning back and getting out of iraq very quickly. avoidable getting involved in syria. and where did that all lead? it led to the groenl and the spread of isis and the obligation for us to become involved because the threat of isis is a threat to our allies in the region and europe and ultimately a threat to us. so i can't say that he's done very well in that respect. and a number of other things that he wanted to get away from that bush was associated with whether it was drone strikes or violating international law and in the current case of the nsa scandal. i don't think he's done very well in that regard either. so try as he might, he's struggling to break away and he just can't do it. >> and david, i think we felt like foreign solsy and -- policy and national security were sort of above politics of the notion that politics ends at the
water's edge and the president has control over so they are not subject to the grimes and gridlock of washington but with the dhs funding fight, that is changing if that was ever correct at all. how much is washington dysfunction really impacting our security? >> well we're sitting here hours away from shutting down the agency responsible for protecting our borders and making sure flights are safe and dealing with the terrorist threat dominating the head lines and for some reason political leaders on the hill john boehner and mitch mcconnell about other leaders on the hill think it is okay to play politics with that and the mesh people will give them a -- the american people will give them a pass and or perhaps the american people just aren't paying attention. i think the responsibility ultimately falls on the voters that are letting them get away with this and ultimately if we are going to have a change somehow the voters will have to
penalize these guys for acting like such a clown show. >> there is a lot of truth to that, david. let's go back to isis i want to point out, this is an extraordinary complex enemy and the president dealing with russia and al qaeda and this is a whole other ball of wax. they have no political demands and they only want war and endless war. time magazine is calling it the endless trap and they want a ground war and that legitized them and the only way to radical them and if we don't have a subsequent occupation that will not keep them from coming back. this is a ebb emmy -- enemy. >> this is not the real enemy. it is groups like this. like al-nusra al shabab the
hack annie network, they are all part of the problem. whenever we zero in on one like encore al qaeda, we don't pay attention to others and the problem spreads. we need to identify the threats and contain them we today to develop an alternative that requires working with allies on the ground and working with moderate states on the ground and working with the range of countries opposed to that and that is important because the range of countries is broad it is not just moderate arab alleys, it is russia and china and we can bring together an alliance to deal with this much beyond the show coalition put together but a group that will work to create functioning economies and alternative narratives to the extremists and be willing to commit to containing this for years to come. we don't see that strategy.
we need the president to lead. we need reasonable people in the congress to support it. we need a long-term view. and right now we are playing hour by shower short-term ridiculous childish politics in washington. >> you couldn't have said it any better. david, thank you for reminding us. sometimes it makes sense to take politics out of it. so on a totally different note. a very serious question for. are you ready? >> white and gold. >> i love it. [ laughter ] >> thank you. why are we having this debate. it white and gold. dave thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks. and now to the life of an entertainment icon leonard nimoy died today after the age of 83 after a fight with lung disease. he was best known, of course for playing spock on star trek. william shatner just released
this statement. i loved him like a brother. we will all miss his humor and his talent and his capacity to love. on the big screen he brought life to the half vulcan and hume and the pointing ears and we leave him with this blessing. >> live long and prosper. >> leonard nimoy did both e. was survived business his wife and two children and six grandchildren and one great grandchild. this is the equivalent of the sugar in one regular can of soda.
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>> and we had to update you on a story that ari broke for us here on the cycle yesterday. the feisty llama that broke the hash tag. nearly 1100 tweets per minute at the low-speed chase. toure. >> so good. the american love affair with gangsters goes back to the godfather and ever since francis ford cope ella's film we have found it to be endlessly compelling. and from gotti, he killed paul costel ano outside of a steakhouse in 1995 and since then the dapper don became a folk hero until his luck ran out and he died in prison and his son ran the left of his family straight into the ground. and a new book chronicles
world from johnell eat. he joins us on the set. and congratulations on the book. and explain why is it the american mafia fell apart. i remember a time where they seemed to be everywhere and yet invisible and super powerful and yet they crumbled right before our eyes. >> a couple of reasons, the lawmaker and the best and the brightest in the italian community is the doctors and the lawyers and the gangsters are scraping the bottom of the gene pool. it is not like any other -- >> can you say something like that publicly and not be afraid of getting whacked or is that how bad the mafia is. >> i'm speaking as a -- a grandson of sicilian immigrants. and this is my perception and it is what it is. if there was ever sophisticated
intelligence it was probably two generations ago and now we see the demise of the american mafia, mafia. >> it is an inside into the detail and it is gotti's rules and you detail a number of the rules. talk to us about the most significant. >> one of the reason it is the gotti's rules, from john's perspective, there were rules, but they didn't apply if your name was gotti. the principal rule is no one deals drugs. if you deal drugs, you get killed. but if you are you have to kick up to the leader of the crime family. that was part of the hypocrisy and you mentioned the castellano murder that was part of the drug dealing. and the other thing is if you are in a restaurant for example, and your crew is there and there is a crew from another family across the way, make them come to you. don't you go to them. it is petty high school kind of stuff but this is the way the
organization was run a guy from albanian descent was fascinated it and got involved in it and learned about it. >> do they determine what was going on there? >> 20 30 50 years ago, it didn't happen. but if you accept the idea back then some guys got involved with the mafia because it was a way of life and they stood by the merta and the code of violence. and today is a way to make money. and today when they are jammed up it is a business decision. how do i cut my losses. that is becoming a cooperator. and then guys have been able to disappear with new identityies and then the rico law which you are looking at 40 or 50 years in prison, there is a lot of stake.
all of those things have combined to contribute to we've seen. >> and you talk about the examples and we watched the movies and they are popular and the cliches, what is the biggest misconceptions people have about the mob. >> i think godfather said it was about honor and loyalty, but it is about treachery and deceit. it is about grabbing the money. >> what is the zet. >> the most realistic are good fellas and donnie brassco. >> and it gets to the end of the mob. the god-motherfather looks like something you want to join and donnie brassco is something you don't want to join. >> and i think that is the best. the shlump who doesn't know where his next dollar is coming from and who he can trust. >> and you have to thrown in casino as well.
>> well casino is based on a lot of true events. so casino is part of that mix. >> are people still part of mobs am i missing something. are people still part of mobs? >> i always found blake suspicious suspicious. >> quiet. >> merta. >> we're asking george questions, not me. sorry. >> i think the mafia will always exist but it is never going to be the monolithic institution it was. it will be part of a broader under world. and we may look back 20 years from now and say it was better when organized crime was organized. >> did gotti ruin it because he was so public between the murders and the public image. he was supposed to be secretive and when we heard about the mob in 509s and people said this does not exist but gotti was public. >> and it was iconic and it flew in the face it was a secret society. the old-time guys was make money and not headlines and stay in
the shadows. john gotti epity ommized the new breed what is the point of being a gangster it nobody knows who you are. it is not the right way. stay low key and under the radar. >> remember that toure. >> stay low key. >> that is what you do. >> georgiana stacia. thank you. >> and up next. john capehart on the case. we've seen the ad and now our friend asks the question you have been wondering, what is internet and who is allison? >> allison, can you explain what internet is? sound good? great. because you're not you you're a whole airline... and it's not a ticket you're upgrading it's your entire operations, from domestic to international... which means you need help from a whole team of advisors. from workforce strategies to tech solutions and a thousand other things. so you call pwc. the right people to get the extraordinary
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katie said she thought this was a car. >> yeah. >> and it is built like using wind from a windmill? >> or a turbine? >> what is i-3 anyway? >> alison can you explain what i-3 is? >> so who is this alison? >> it's been 21 years since katie couric asked what is internet on "nbc's today." i knew the woman with all the answers. while the world has been wondering about this mysterious alison, i got the scoop. where did you actually sit? >> i sat behind the class over there. >> this is alison. when katie asked alison, can you explain what internet is?
what did you tell her and did you even know what internet is or was then? >> i absolutely knew what the internet was. i was on the internet back in 1984 '85. i don't remember telling her anything because bryant -- and this is something folks didn't hear -- bryant said don't ask her. sometimes i left in the dark. >> now that we all know what internet is what do you love about it and what do you hate about it? >> there's so much that i love about it. it provides quick information. it provides the opportunity to go in-depth. what i don't like about it it is a distraction. i'm not going to lie about it. this organization really pioneered original journalism on the internet. it's a group that i led back in 1994 and '95.
i think television has changed dramatically. i can take an iphone and go live any place in the world. i'm still very very thrilled at what i'm able to do with tools that used to cost millions and so i am able to take my equipment and actually share information throughout the world. it takes you back to see, you know again a place that had become my home for over almost 30 years. >> what have you been up to in these last 21 years since that famous question? >> i moved into the not for profit world in the early 2000s. such a gratifying experience for me. i worked with the jackie robinson foundation, an extraordinary foundation that provides leadership and mentoring, development and scholarships for underserved people. i have continued to be a mentor
with them and then most recently i'm working with an arts organization called arts horizons that puts artists in schools and introduces the richness of the arts to again underserved communities whether it is schools, senior centers, or hospital schools. for me it's a wonderful way to sort of transition and move into another portion of my life. >> jonathan capehart thank you for solving that national mystery. now we have another very important question, though, that needs answering. you are a very fashionable gentleman. perhaps one of the most fashionable gentleman in all of america. the nation wants to know what color is the dress. >> please it is gold and white. >> thank you. >> no way it's blue. >> it's blue and black. i thought you'd get this right. >> no you got it wrong. >> if i could add one more thing
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